So lets say.. (Hypothetically) that a "friend" of mine accidently installed a Sprint ROM (The dragon rom) on his verizon phone, the phone is completely inoperable and doesn't even turn on. like holding on the power button does nill, and trying to put it into download mode yeilds no results as well, would it be possible to play stupid and return the phone to verizon since it's not been two weeks yet since i've had it? or will they catch on that the phone's been tinkered with? any imput would be appreciated. keep the wrist slaps for an obvious mistake to a minimum please I swear i thought it was for the verizon variant lol.
If it wont turn on at all then you should be fine returning it. You should also follow what my sig says
Committing fraud is never good, especially when it's due to stupidity. Sorry OP, it's the truth. Man up and pay to get that JTAGGED by mobile tech videos.
Not everyone has money to throw around. I don't think a new phone replacement is gonna affect a huge corporation all that much.
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Not everyone has money to throw around. I don't think a new phone replacement is gonna affect a huge corporation all that much.
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Yeah but...if you can justify one person...then you can jusity 10,000 people and so on and so forth.
Also if you don't have money to throw around, play it safe and don't do things like the OP.
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If you don't have the money to spend on JTagging, you shouldn't be playing with fire on your rather expensive phone, IMHO.
I have sympathy for the OP's dilemma, but sometimes (depending on the circumstances, need to survive, etc.) we need to accept the consequences of our own actions and seek to avoid abusing policies that seem like part of a generic, abstractly large pot of abundance.
- ooofest
It doesn't affect the corporation, it affects the rest of us as consumers that purchase their products. They make up the loss with price increases. Retail stores do the same thing with stolen merchandise. Raise prices to offset the loss. I agree. Man up. Fraud is fraud and stealing is stealing. Makes no difference who its from. I'd never tell my kids its OK to lie, cheat, and steal as long as its from rich people lol.
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another one bites the dust
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE
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another one bites the dust
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should have asked OP before you tried. Maybe not on this site because they can be a little harsh on Noobs but the other dozens of sites on the web. If you have insurance on the phone drop it in water pay the deductible and get a new phone.
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Yeah but...if you can justify one person...then you can jusity 10,000 people and so on and so forth.
Also if you don't have money to throw around, play it safe and don't do things like the OP.
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Exactly. You you have to think in the aggregate.
And to be honest, if you have the money to pay for the most expensive carrier and the most expensive phone on said carrier you can probably spare $50-60 to fix your own mistake.
I personally don't think it's fraud.... All Verizon is gonna due is use it as a refurb (and how do you think they get refurbs?) Sometimes a company has to open up BRAND NEW phones to give out as refurbs aka replacements, because I used to work for Nextel, before Sprint ate them up.... I was a tech and I remember having to open up brand new phones just so we had stock for refurbs cause when you release a new phone refurbs are non-existent until months after a release... And Samsung will just fix the phone but that does NOT make up for the part of NOT reading and following the instructions before you flash something... Every mod or rom that I flash I automatically know that if my phone dies it is MY fault cause I am playin with fire but flashing a totally different carriers rom is just plain stupid and I was a noob at one point and I NEVER even thought of flashing something until I read about a million pages of how to's and guides etc. I am not trying to be a **** but why would you think it's okay to flash a Sprint rom on your phone?? You will get a free pass on this one and get a replacement phone but if you do it again than you may want to think about just running stock because I think every noob gets one freebie and this is yours so go get a replacement and READ READ READ and if you can't find your answer than keep READING.... I have never bricked a phone and I guess I am lucky but I certainly have never flashed another carriers rom on my phone either... Just my 2 cents... Good luck and READ! :laugh:
EDIT: I do NOT condone FRAUD!! There are just different ways of looking at what fraud is and I don't think the OP would be committing fraud... imo
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i have to post ten posts to be able to commment on a different thread. <ignore this
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I wouldn't spam the forums like this either, then you won't be able to comment on ANY thread.
Words of wisdom there. ^^^^
Your post was deleted. It really isn't that hard to find threads to put in 10 quality posts.
And so help me if you 11th post (presumably in a Development thread) is a "Thanks for the ROM" or "This ROM is Awesome"
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Words of wisdom there. ^^^^
Your post was deleted. It really isn't that hard to find threads to put in 10 quality posts.
And so help me if you 11th post (presumably in a Development thread) is a "Thanks for the ROM" or "This ROM is Awesome"
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^^^ this comment totally made my day.
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I bought my G-tab online Nov. 1 via PayPal, received the tablet, and assumed the transaction went through. I just checked and they never took the money! The transaction expired Friday and is listed as "Canceled" now.
Anyone ever experienced this? I kinda want to call them to see why they didn't take the money. But, I kinda don't wanna tempt fate and look a $398.99 gift horse in the mouth either! LOL!
Thoughts???
It may sound strange and ethical, but I would call them.
call me whatever you like but I would most definitely not call them.
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Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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Not that easily... if they called me about it that would be different, it was their mistake. call it karma for having such a piece of **** return policy... I'm going under the assumption that you bought it from sears online. if it was from an individual or something my morals might come into play
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Where have people morals gone. Do people not feel guilt anymore?
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That's interesting considering you've probably intentionally voided your product warranty by making software mods using roms illegally ported from other devices. An probably side loade d hundreds of apks for which you didn't pay the developer and most likely skimmed from a wares or torrent site, or Applanet.net.
Sound like a huge case of situational ethics to me buddy. Pick a position. If you feel so much guilt about things, delete your xda account and keep it moving.
id let them know, personally. when you start taking an active role in karma, as another stated in this thread, then karma starts taking an active role in your life. ive had way too many run-ins with karma to tempt fate again.
but hey, thats just me.
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That's interesting considering you've probably intentionally voided your product warranty by making software mods using roms illegally ported from other devices. An probably side loade d hundreds of apks for which you didn't pay the developer and most likely skimmed from a wares or torrent site, or Applanet.net.
Sound like a huge case of situational ethics to me buddy. Pick a position. If you feel so much guilt about things, delete your xda account and keep it moving.
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that's actually not even a valid argument except for installing non-paid for apps.
What you do to a device you own is your choice. You can flash anything you want to it if you choose....as long as you don't expect a warranty replacement if you screw it up. If I want to flash my toaster oven with the firmware from my microwave......more power to me. But when my toaster oven no longer works, it's my fault not the manufacturers.
Now getting a toaster oven you didn't pay for is a totally different argument (the original poster's).
Sorry OP, but it's called theft of a material item. You knew that you didn't pay for it, but are keeping it anyways. Of course, many companies tack on extra charges for services and steal from consumers, so it's a gray area. I guess if you look at it from the standpoint of "business is business" then it's fair. Dunno what to say.
Thanks for the input. All is well. I'm returning the device & will let them figure out what to do. Anyone in the Richmond, VA area looking for a clearance item, check the Virginia Center Commons Sears location later this week.
Good call... You are doing the right thing.... Why are you returning?
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Good call... You are doing the right thing.... Why are you returning?
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Thanks. I also have an Archos 101 8gb that I've been comparing the last week. Sticking with the 101 and awaiting the 2.2 update.
I can tell you have good morals, why else post that you got it lol.If you honestly intended on keeping it, you shouldn't or wouldn't have said anything to anyone.
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Yes, not calling them and taking a free GTab will help our economy. /sarcasm
It happened to me, I called to ask about my order being placed and available, shortly after I was charged. I had received my pickup email already, so I'm sure if I had picked up the order and said nothing, it would have not been charged.
In a perfect world, when you called to tell them about the error they should have said "we appreciate your honesty and we will not charge you because of it, consider this a gift". You win, and they win as you would be more likely to be a return customer.
Apparently LG banned me from their twitter,facebook and forums.
apparently they dont like when people point out their lies and continued stringing along of consumers.
I know the mods of their forum come here since they mentioned it.
so i want them to know they are pathetic. you dont even get a message you just cant log in anymore. on facebook if im not logged in the comment tag is there when i log in the coment tag disapears.
so apparetnly LG's fix for the G2x is to ban and silent those that are consistant in wanting answers. or repeating the truth of how they led on customers with the update to make them go over their 2 weeks(think this may of been the one that got them )
i did get one last comment in under the name droid1967 which was a link to the tmo news about an update so at least the people reading those forums got 1 piece of info this month that appears to be some actual information.
You better be nice. We'll ban your sorry whining butt from here too. How dare you ask for a phone that works. LOL
I better be careful myself. I've been pretty dogged in my dogging of the dogs as well. Did I actually just type that?
Did they communicate to you the fact that you were out?
I just made a post there saying I better be careful, I might get banned ....like you. It posted, so I haven't crossed their line. Yet.
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You better be nice. We'll ban your sorry whining butt from here too. How dare you ask for a phone that works. LOL
I better be careful myself. I've been pretty dogged in my dogging of the dogs as well. Did I actually just type that?
Did they communicate to you the fact that you were out?
I just made a post there saying I better be careful, I might get banned ....like you. It posted, so I haven't crossed their line. Yet.
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nothing they ip banned me too
i got that droid1967 one in than it wont log in again either.
I think you have been worse than me
I think it was the once tehy con enough to go over their 2 weeks than the update will just disapear.
smartphonegeek is the one that banned me im sure i see he posted right under that comment than i was banned within 15 minutes of his posting.
No biggy. those guys over there know nothing and are just the cooperate liers for their phone division. i hear that san diego trip was a class to better use 1000 words without actually giving any info. since they failed with the by summer they were suppose to leave it at the by summer instead of hinting it actaully meant by summer so he had to go to a retraining course.
and that title i always thought the GEEK meant you actaully knew something about what it was associated with.
I think maybe i should not of used the same nick to post at the forum,twitter and facebook think gettting hit on all three may of got to them
well keep giving them hell for me
I figured both of you guys were gonna get banned at some point, but I didn't know they would ban you from all their sites . I feel bad that those two mods are the only LG/T-Mo folks on the entire internet bearing the brunt of the attacks (though they are well deserved). Their company pretty much threw them to the wolves with no information at all for the public. The silence from LG has irreparably tarnished their image in my eyes and ensured that I'll never purchase another of their products. The G2x is fantastic though, once you get CM7 on it.
dont feel bad eagle, ive been banned from tmobile g2x forum twice....both times heading out as the number 1 kudos'd author....some people liked what i had to say.....apparently not tmobile....haha
"I think you have been worse than me"...."I figured both of you guys were gonna get banned at some point,....."
Awww, c'mon you guys, I'm not that bad. Am I? LOL.
Honestly, you should see the things I type that I don't actually send ha ha! I think I'm fair in my complaints though.
hah
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dont feel bad eagle, ive been banned from tmobile g2x forum twice....both times heading out as the number 1 kudos'd author....some people liked what i had to say.....apparently not tmobile....haha
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yeah i saw someone asking about you i didnt see any of your posts.
im 3rd on the kudos i think but also pushing there. but at least they are adults not kids like lG saying dont play in our sandbox.
Im surprised you got banned from there but i dont know what you said
i have 2 other ip's i can access from and emails are a dime a minute. so ill monitor and ill get back there to tell them what i really think of them, since i didnt really before , we were just alll showing we are fed up hoping something would happen. but I guess LG's way of fixing things with customers is quieting the knowledable ones so the less knowledagble will fall for their bs.
They think i said something bad before. they havent seen anything yet. i will gather everyone of their lies and dates and show how they do indeed string their customers along. I will go through for everyphone they have and will send these examples to every blog and website just before i post it on their site.
im actaully surprised smartphonepissant could even figure out how to ban me. he must of called up someone that actully knows something.
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"I think you have been worse than me"...."I figured both of you guys were gonna get banned at some point,....."
Awww, c'mon you guys, I'm not that bad. Am I? LOL.
Honestly, you should see the things I type that I don't actually send ha ha! I think I'm fair in my complaints though.
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yeah wish i would of hit the send button instead of delete now.
just wait for my final post it will be a good one. but ill have to do some research first. If dumbphonewimpass wants a war hell get one.
wish i could ban some family members i have to deal with for my patients. but guess what i deal with and most of the time its not even justified. as it is with LG.
not my fault they are the ones that get paid to lie and mislead but they know what they are doing and to have the nerve to ban someone that never used a curse word or actually called them out directly is just sad and pathetic.(ok maybe i did call their lack of knowledge out )
if there were people that were upset with what i said that would be 1 thing. but i think since 98% agreed and made similair comments its just laughable what a piece of @#$% company. LG --Like Gnats (just a pest we have to live with.)
If all they did was IP block you, pm me
I have an IP rerouting software that will have them thinking you
Move all around the globe at lightning fast speed.
And unless they block the usernar you can keep giving them hell under the droid1967 call sign.
Mahgninnuc
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mahgninnuc93 said:
If all they did was IP block you, pm me
I have an IP rerouting software that will have them thinking you
Move all around the globe at lightning fast speed.
And unless they block the usernar you can keep giving them hell under the droid1967 call sign.
Mahgninnuc
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pm dropped
T-mobile blocked me from posting comments on their Facebook page. I was hammering them down looking for answers of why they called me at 6am. T-mobile refuses to accept they made a mistake and acknowledge it, instead they choose to shut you up
ITS ALL WONKY!!!
They just posted a reply that says you were not banned........
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this i like i was gonna suggest something different, he beat me to it.........eagle keep doing your thing brotha
Yea I'm banned on tmobiles fb I've been on LGs fb for a minute now still going I said mad **** too
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Yea I'm banned on tmobiles fb I've been on LGs fb for a minute now still going I said mad **** too
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haha yea me too bro **** they were deleting the **** on twitter as soon as it went on, quick bastards
Yeah I see that want to post on there that I can not log in and when I made the drois1967 one to post that Tmonews info it would not log in again either. And I just tried again no dice. If this is a mistake I'll appoligise personally but at this point I am still unable to log into anything
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Lg doesn't have gingerbread on any of its phones yet. Its been 6 months since gingerbread came out.
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Lg doesn't have gingerbread on any of its phones yet. Its been 6 months since gingerbread came out.
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your point being???
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your point being???
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Point we don't need nostinkin point
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Apparently LG banned me from their twitter,facebook and forum
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You Dont neeed no steeenkeeng software
Anonymouse.com
Its free, just x out the popups
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So I went to a few stores today that sells att phones. I asked everyone in all 5 of the stores about the upcoming Samsung Galaxy Note LTE, noone even knew about it as if it will be coming out 6 years from now -.- noone knew there was one even coming out let alone the name :/ it kind of makes me sad when the consumer knows more then the sales reps. They should train more in my opinion this was just my little experiance for the day just thought I'd share. Anyone else looking forward to the note lte for att?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps are always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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In-store reps definitely don't know anything. Most reps aren't like us and simply don't care. I usually come across some reps who give out good information about upcoming devices. These reps at always over the phone as they have quick access to the database. Try calling about a general question, talk to them for a bit, and when you're about to end the conversation, pop the question.
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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Ive sold phones for five years in three locations. I can tell you most of us know about phones as soon as they are rumors. As someone said earlier if we don't sell it we really don't care. To be honest if someone asked me about the note I would kinda just try to end it fast unless we were doing pre orders as asking me about a phone I cant sell isn't making me commission. If it is slow though I will talk about announced upcoming phones for quite awhile. Also most consumers walk in and say i want android or iphone not asking specifics
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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That's understandable. Wouldn't it be better to actually care and inform a consumer of an upcoming device? By informing them of said device, they might wait for it and pay the $200 with the contract. I understand you want to make some money as well but I guess from a personal standpoint I would help the person that cares as much as I do.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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If they are techie I will chat with them build rapport and leave them with a business card and an appointment only if the release isn't months away. The average consumer wants what their friend has and even if a better phone comes out tomorrow won't wait.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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I see now. Well that is just fine with me.
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Though by far my biggest pet peeve at work is the people who say well I saw this was coming out on _________ tech site and I know all about it where is it. Most of those people end up name dropping xda. Kinda like this "well i frequently read xda and it said this and that and they tend to be just plain wrong. I know most of us on xda aren't like that but when you hear it multiple times a week you tend to want to hull smash something end rant ha
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Haha yea I understand. I never ask about a device until it's all over the internet and comfirmed by many sources. That's like calling HTC and asking about the rumored Edge.
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I even tried bestbuy lol and the guys words were "our phone tech isn't here today he will be here tomorrow from 12-6" I live 40 mins away from anything so its not in my best choice to go back but anywho I go to the same att retailer when I buy my phones. They know me there and come at me quick because I don't just come in to buy a cheap pantech crossover I'm there with cash in hand and buy phones straight up xD so they are always willing to help. When I went in to buy my Sony xperia play 4g I handed her my iPhone to Bluetooth my contacts, she looked at my iPhone and her exact words were "what the F is this" it was running wp7 xD Haha but in all seriousness I think someone should be hired in the certain area. It'd be like hiring me to sell cars or ovens when I know nothing about them, I feel like they just hire anyone :/ I went to buy a computer once and the worker argued for 30 minutes that 512mb was a gigabyte :/ I shook my head and took my business elsewhere I just don't understand... sometimes I wish everyone cared about a phone as much as we do... instead of "as long as I can listen to music watch YouTube and look at porn, I don't care what it looks like or what it does" :'( I honestly just want to teach everyone for free so I don't feel so smart and dumb at the same time. anyone else feel that way?
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Nobody in a provider store is going to have even a small clue about phones they don't already stock, this should not be a shock. And if you're on xda you're a bit above the typical consumer...
There is basically no benefit in knowing about a phone you don't stock yet from a sales perspective. You can't sell what you don't have.
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I agree. I've perused tablets in Best Buy and after engaging the nearest 'team member' for less than 3 minutes, I realize that I know more than they do.
It's the same experience when going to the auto parts store. There are some people who can carry on informed conversation, but 90% are the type who watch fast & furious movies in awe, and know nothing about repair or maintenance or they can only look up part numbers.
Basically, lower your expectations.
This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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This is why I get mad when I've tried many times to get a job in those kind of places to no avail because I don't seem to have any big time qualifications to my record yet if I go into any outlet store and begin talking about phones, the sales rep looks at me like I'm making up things or shocked I know anything.
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I have had similar experience with applying for jobs at auto parts stores. The 'now hiring' sign is displayed for several months and the staff changes about every 3 weeks, but I never get called. For a while there was an older woman who not only knew nothing about cars but she also needed help to use the computer program to look up parts.
I finally realized that these people will work for less money than I will because I actually know what I am doing. It really is sad that people with any level of technical or mechanical ability don't actually work at the retail level because they can't get enough money.
And don't get me started on the people who work at Home Depot . .
I have no past work experiance. I'm 19 years old have been the "bad" kid because I used to be a "black magic" hacker I've gotten introuble from schools best buys and targets because of it but now I'm past all that I do phones tablets anything mobile. There is never a time when I'm in best buy that I'm back in the computer/phone area and usually an older citizen is talking to a sales Rep about which one is better and the sales Rep says well product A is $1299 with 4gb ram touchscreen is way better then product B $899 8gb ram and so on but they go by the price as the sales Rep was walking her to the register I kindly walked up and said "hello ma'am I noticed you were interested in two different so-so" the sales Rep called the manager and had me kicked out for costing him the sale xD but they wont hire me? I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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i have to say i agree not many of the people in the stores even know about the phones they have in front of them much less whats coming out.
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... I have long hair and look like a "druggie" I don't do drugs don't have tattoos or metal on my body but yet they hire people who are clueless
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I don't mean to overstep the rules of polite conversation but you may wish to think about your image. It isn't fair that we judge based on looks, but it happens.
*Edit - When I say looks I also means assumptions that people will make of others based on their prejudices. -*End Edit
Most recently, I applied for a job repairing projectors. During the interview they kept asking me about how well I would transition to an office environment. Completely Ridiculous! I would be working in the workshop not the office and I happened to be better dressed than any of my interviewers.
Basically, some people cannot see past their little world or people they can understand.
Man Verizon store by me they don't know anything. And they are jerks as well. Went to upgrade my moms phone and said she wouldn't get unlimited data with her Droid 3 so I just bought it from newegg called up and boom she got her unlimited data. Never going back to that store again. Hate how now you have to bring phone to store to get replaced.
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toxicpaulution said:
They should for the consumer I really wish I could get hired there and be like "hey guys look at this site it will help you when a consumer comes in " Haha xD
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Frig no, we need no more non technical people. Like how not everyone is cut out for engineering or medicine, not everyone is cut out for xda.
$1 gets you a reply
I'm not saying everyone join xda but if you going to sell something atleast know alittle about the past present and the future you can't be like well I'm sorry I don't know about cars from 2011 back I only know about the 2012 Ford focus and that's all sorry can't work on you're car -.-
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to give my fellow Wind users a warning: Wind has changed their warranty policies.
Instead of doing a straight exchange they now require $150 deposit, and a $10+tax fee for using their loaner phone. I've had enough of their antics, and am in touch with the loyalty department after paying $161.30 just to send my phone in for repairs.
Basically what happened is my phone shutoff while I was using the flashlight, and wouldn't turn back on. I tried charging, tried a different battery, tried putting it into recovery, etc. Now that I look back the only thing I didn't try was apx mode. Funny thing was, when I was in the store waiting to get the loaner phone, a lady brought in the exact same phone with calling issues. Everyone who has this phone hates it.
Anyways, reason for my post wasn't to get help fixing it, it was to warn you guys of the new crappy policies in place.
If they can't hook me up with an upgrade for a newer phone, then I'm tempted to pay off my tab and leave wind for mobilicity, at least then I wouldn't have to deal with getting crappy phones like this in the future. Wind (and T-Mobile for that matter) should have recalled all these phones when they realized that it was a P.O.S for lack of a better word. It hasn't even been a year and the phone has broken twice on me.
My words of wisdom was to tell you guys to pawn your phones off or try and trade for an amaze 4g or something before yours breaks (since it's probably inevitable) and you're stuck paying these bogus warranty fees. I'll update the thread once the loyalty department gets back to me this weekend.
Ontop of this as of April 1st of 2012 they charge 10$ for the unlock codes. I just called to get it unlocked and the representative claimed i had to be with them for "6" months not the usual 3 and its 10$ to unlock the phone.
If there has been a change in policy, does that mean you can get out of your contracts?
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Just a little comment on the issue with your phone. I think your motherboard is fried . This is my second LG phone, and my first phone (P500) had an issue and wouldn't turn on, I sent it for repair and they told me the motherboard was dead.
So I'm guessing that's what happened with yours. This will be my last LG phone, probably forever. Would rather have an iphone, and I HATE apple products, than an LG phone.
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If there has been a change in policy, does that mean you can get out of your contracts?
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See if you can find some information regarding the wintab contracts. considering its a "contract" that you sign for the company somehow i dont think its legal for them to enforce that upon the anyone who signed on before the date of change. For the others there is no contract as is pay as you go.
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If there has been a change in policy, does that mean you can get out of your contracts?
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Unfortunately they don't do contracts. But I do have a WindTab which means I owe a certain amount of money on the phone. Maybe I can get out of paying it by saying their policy breached my agreement. I'll have to review my agreement!
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See if you can find some information regarding the wintab contracts. considering its a "contract" that you sign for the company somehow i dont think its legal for them to enforce that upon the anyone who signed on before the date of change. For the others there is no contract as is pay as you go.
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I will look into this. Thanks you guys, good point!
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Just a little comment on the issue with your phone. I think your motherboard is fried . This is my second LG phone, and my first phone (P500) had an issue and wouldn't turn on, I sent it for repair and they told me the motherboard was dead.
So I'm guessing that's what happened with yours. This will be my last LG phone, probably forever. Would rather have an iphone, and I HATE apple products, than an LG phone.
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I 100% agree with you. Last LG phone I ever get. I was going to buy an LG TV this week as well, but I feel like a dynex would be more reliable at this point!
Thanks guys!
Funny thing is I have 2 720p tvs, one is a dynex and one is an LG lol. The dynex tv is older and was more expensive at the time, but they both work great. The LG tv input ports are arranged better though and are easier to get to.
Sorry to hear about your issues, but please note that this is off-topic! Complaints about your provider have nothing to do with development. (As an aside, I'd also disagree with your assertion that "everyone" is unhappy with the phone. We have two G2x phones on Wind and really enjoy both the device and the service.)
Tv
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If there has been a change in policy, does that mean you can get out of your contracts?
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Wind doesn't have contracts.
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Wind doesn't have contracts.
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It might be against the rules to post twice in a row. Could you check and get back to us?
If wind does not have any "contracts" whats stopping people from canceling the service and not paying off the windtab.
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Sorry to hear about your issues, but please note that this is off-topic! Complaints about your provider have nothing to do with development. (As an aside, I'd also disagree with your assertion that "everyone" is unhappy with the phone. We have two G2x phones on Wind and really enjoy both the device and the service.)
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? if exchanging a G2X is not relevant here then the thread can be deleted/locked. Its a "General" section and not a development section. yes its related to the provider being ass within the use of a "G2X" warning others of such issues.
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Sorry to hear about your issues, but please note that this is off-topic! Complaints about your provider have nothing to do with development. (As an aside, I'd also disagree with your assertion that "everyone" is unhappy with the phone. We have two G2x phones on Wind and really enjoy both the device and the service.)
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That's why I posted in the general section Mr. Moderator. Thanks for the heads up there. It's also called an exaggeration, most people on here are unhappy with these phones, and while I was in the store, another lady brought one in and she's had hers repaired 3 times already. I don't know what your problem is.
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If wind does not have any "contracts" whats stopping people from canceling the service and not paying off the windtab.
? if exchanging a G2X is not relevant here then the thread can be deleted/locked. Its a "General" section and not a development section. yes its related to the provider being ass within the use of a "G2X" warning others of such issues.
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That's true, when looking through my "agreement" it says they must give me 30 days prior notice to any changes that are affecting my terms of agreement. I'm going to tell them that I don't agree with the warranty policy changes and I'm either accepting a replacement (different phone) or I'm leaving and filing a small claims. I'm already in the process of litigations with another cell phone provider, don't really want to disclose too much but they can be a real pain in the ass.
could you pm me the agreement you signed i assume it would be the same "blank out any personal information" i cant seem to find mine atm. need to dgi through a pile of papers.
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Sorry to hear about your issues, but please note that this is off-topic! Complaints about your provider have nothing to do with development. (As an aside, I'd also disagree with your assertion that "everyone" is unhappy with the phone. We have two G2x phones on Wind and really enjoy both the device and the service.)
Tv
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Off topic ???
@ barqers Thanks for posting this.
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Off topic ???
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"G2x general discussion" is not the same as "Complaints about my cellular provider". The OP even made a point of stating that the post "wasn't to get help fixing it, it was to warn you guys of the new crappy policies in place" at his provider. It's not a big deal, but there are already plenty of other sites to gripe about service issues.
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"G2x general discussion" is not the same as "Complaints about my cellular provider". The OP even made a point of stating that the post "wasn't to get help fixing it, it was to warn you guys of the new crappy policies in place" at his provider. It's not a big deal, but there are already plenty of other sites to gripe about service issues.
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Dude I don't know what your issue is this is the general section like you noted which means for general discussion.... If this was in the Dev or themes and apps section then you would have a a point but you don't so move on and stop trolling this thread unless you have something of substance to add to the discussion
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Dude I don't know what your issue is this is the general section like you noted which means for general discussion.... If this was in the Dev or themes and apps section then you would have a a point but you don't so move on and stop trolling this thread unless you have something of substance to add to the discussion
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Hey, it was an opinion expressed in good faith to the OP, and these silly claims ("trolling"?!?) don't help anyone. Do with it what you will, I really don't care any more.
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Hey, it was an opinion expressed in good faith to the OP, and these silly claims ("trolling"?!?) don't help anyone. Do with it what you will, I really don't care any more.
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There's other boards for misguided rule quoters...
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I am a WIND customer and didn't know about the change in repair policy so this thread is useful to me.
WIND = Warranty Is Not Dependable
I have read countless threads on this subject that range from just bend over and take it its not that bad to I'm selling my phone as soon as I get. There is a simple way of showing our dislike of the locked bootloader. It only takes a minute and it will get Verizons attention. it's not a smack on the head with a bag of nails but it will sting the big red bully enough to eventually act.
Go to the verizon mobile web site "my verizon" click upgrade device pick any phone click quick look click read reviews click write a reveiw and the phone you currently have wille come up and ask you to write a reveiw. Give it the lowest amount of stars Most importantly be polite, factual and don't bash Verizon (save that for the XDA forums)
This is the most efficient way a few can get their point driven home in an acceptable and respectable manner. When all the phones on its web site have only 2 or 3 stars they will definately be effected. This is the most effective civil way of letting Verizon know they are doing their customers wrong.
What do you guys think?
Press thanks if you think this will help...and because it boosts my XDA cred :laugh:
Yes at this point Verizon needs a wake up call and realize out not for its they would not have food on the table. Every one of these ways people come up with help.
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you're not going to matter to Verizon. Not trying to be a **** but the amount of customers that want an unlocked bootloader is minimal compaired to their total customer base. Yes it sucks balls and i feel for you verizon guys, but there isn't much you are going to be able to do about it.
Best option would be to call their customer service and tell them you want to cancel your account and when they ask why just say you guys refuse to unlock bootloaders so i am taking my business elsewhere. With the phone being new to the market and in high demand i would just sell it on ebay or craigslist for 500 and switch to a different carrier.
When is the developer edition of the VZW SGS3 going to be available? I think a lot of people are trying to sell their VZ S3's on eBay for $549 or $600 to buy it outright from Samsung. As long as you don't take advantage of VZ's subsidized pricing on a new device you can keep your unlimited data plan when you activate it. I'm considering that option.
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you're not going to matter to Verizon. Not trying to be a **** but the amount of customers that want an unlocked bootloader is minimal compaired to their total customer base. Yes it sucks balls and i feel for you verizon guys, but there isn't much you are going to be able to do about it.
Best option would be to call their customer service and tell them you want to cancel your account and when they ask why just say you guys refuse to unlock bootloaders so i am taking my business elsewhere. With the phone being new to the market and in high demand i would just sell it on ebay or craigslist for 500 and switch to a different carrier.
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If all the phones on their site suddenly had only two or three stars trust me it will affect verizon. Phones with low amounts of ratings could be affected by just one or two bad reviews. It is the biggest impact we can make with very little time invested. Calling in returning phones and all the other ideas are also excellent just not the best bang for the buck. I plan on doing all of the above.
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If all the phones on their site suddenly had only two or three stars trust me it will affect verizon. Phones with low amounts of ratings could be affected by just one or two bad reviews. It is the biggest impact we can make with very little time invested. Calling in returning phones and all the other ideas are also excellent just not the best bang for the buck. I plan on doing all of the above.
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Anyone who is going to be researching a phone isn't going to go solely off the service providers website or at least they should be smarter than that. Also if they wanted they could easily just delete all the 1 star reviews.
You guys are no fun, either that or you are shills for Verizon LOL its always better to do nothing when done wrong or when faced with adversity
P.S. feel free to hit the donate button, gotta recoup for the hit im going to take selling my my S3 (they sould have named it the FU2). The hit I'm going to take cancelling my contract early, and a couple tubes of anal ease
(VERIZON left me a little raw) :crying::silly:
I think this is a great idea. Will it work? Maybe, maybe not, but it doesn't hurt to try. I think it's definitely worth a try.
Might as well give it a shot
I think this is a great idea! I think that not that many people give ratings anyway so even if a small number of us do it, it should have an impact. And I do think people might not read the review but they do look at the rating
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I will leave negative reviews I am not sure it will help but I I am in to make the effort. I have been getting back at them (verizon) in my own ways like running my office and most my neighborhood of some extra lines my business account has with unlimited data in 4G areas
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Well since there arent many reviews leaving a bunch of negative ones would have a pretty big impact
I think this idea is "awesome"! No it's not the one thing that's going to sway VZW's politics but hopefully one of many to curb their abuse of the consumer....
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This is a great idea
its diffidently a better idea then sitting on your azz
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Possible lawsuit against Verizon
I ride bike with two gentlemen who are members of a large law firm. Very nice guys considering they're lawyers :laugh: Had to put that in there for when they read this...hi guys!
They informed me that if Verizon does not post the negative reviews there are grounds for legal action (it took then about six paragraphs twenty minutes and a whole bunch of what I think was Latin to explain that to me but I got the jist of most of it) There are a few guidelines keep the reviews factual polite and dont bash Verizon. They offered thier services calling it "a very high profile endeavor"
They also reminded me Al Capone didn't go to jail for being a gangster he went to jail for tax evasion
Keep fighting the good fight
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I ride bike with two gentlemen who are members of a large law firm. Very nice guys considering they're lawyers :laugh: Had to put that in there for when they read this...hi guys!
They informed me that if Verizon does not post the negative reviews there are grounds for legal action (it took then about six paragraphs twenty minutes and a whole bunch of what I think was Latin to explain that to me but I got the jist of most of it) There are a few guidelines keep the reviews factual polite and dont bash Verizon. They offered thier services calling it "a very high profile endeavor"
They also reminded me Al Capone didn't go to jail for being a gangster he went to jail for tax evasion
Keep fighting the good fight
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Ah yes lawyers and hackers coming together in the search for loopholes and alternative thinking.
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im pretty sure verizon is deleting any reviews talking about the bootloader
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im pretty sure verizon is deleting any reviews talking about the bootloader
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Nails in their coffin boys!
Pour it on the more they delete the stronger our case becomes, fortunately for us their disclaimer " {} I agree with terms of service " has more loopholes than their software :good:
P.S. keep an eye open for a different disclaimer
While your still pi$$ed off about Verizon being such a bully check out these other threads....I have nothing to do with them just linked them because they are ways of venting our Big V rage.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1756483
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1774849&page=4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1771335
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1759669
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1764726
Now that you are full of pi$$ and vinegar start typing make a difference :good:
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Good idea, doing it now!
To post a review on Verizon, or not, that is the question.
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