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MR2 Coming Soon

MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.

Awesome. I can wait for GB no problem, I just want a fix for the reboots. I'm sick of my phone rebooting 5+ times a day, happy an update is coming soon.
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OR... you could just scoot on over to the dev forum and pick yourself up a spiffy new rom built on MR2 which is quite solid and fast and will use the same or very similar radios to what will be in the OTA. I tried a couple of them. They are spartan on fancy stuff, but they are reliable if nothing else. Possibly the most functional and reliable roms over there.

Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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My thoughts exactly. Sure I would like to avoid the reboots (given I have had 2 in a 3 week period), and maybe a faster better radio, but the software and sense is so solid.

need bb said:
MR2 will be coming via OTA in the next couple of days MR2 has been through four different revisions and will be based on the 1.70.xx code. There are a number of fixes but the most important should be fixing the reboots and improving the 4G/3G transitions.
I know everyone is waiting for GB which is MR3, but it still needs some time. The good news is that it is being worked on it is already on its fifth SW revision.
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Where did you get this info?

dcjamies said:
Where did you get this info?
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Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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Bingo.. agreed 100%
Coming from HTC devices like the 8525, ATT Tilt, and Touch Pro 2, Ive just about had my share of ROMs for a lifetime. I just want something that works. After paying all this money, Im gonna let Verizon and HTC do what they're supposed to do.

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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I agree with wanting an official update, but the stock rom is far from good. Yes the speed is good but the battery life is horrible. With custom roms I have been able to triple my battery life and limit the random reboots I was getting stock, along with the already good speed being improved. Das BAMF Stripped 1.8

animez said:
Why does someone always have to pop intro threads like this and state the obvious. I'm sure everyone with a Thunderbolt that frequents these forums is aware that rooting and installing a custom rom is an option. Some people have their reasons for wanting to stay stock.
I for one am still stock because this is the first phone I've had in quite a while that the stock rom is quite good. I spent a long time on WinMo, so I am used to custom roms just the make the device functional. Right now custom roms on the TB are mostly just different, not necessarily a huge need to me (GB roms are debatable on this point).
Once the custom roms offer something I want that I can't get from stock (and mature a bit more), I'm sure I'll root and rom. For now I'm enjoying stock stability and a working camera. Just because someone can do something doesn't make it something they need to do.
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agreed. So far only 1 reboot in 2 weeks (apparently that is good) and I get occasional instances where home button doesn't want to work.
I just wish the damn thing rebooted faster. It takes almost 2 minutes to boot, then another couple of minutes before sense is responsive.
Coming from the hd7 and 25 second boot times, this is killer...
I also made/used custom roms on my q9c, tp2 and hd2, but want to give stock a chance. Maybe I will root if I decide I need to tether, but so far, things are looking good stock.

Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock

crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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alot of us are. thanks for your concern.

adrynalyne said:
Flawed info at that. But anyway
The OP history suggests that assumptions and rumors have been listened to and taken as gospel.
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But I read it on the internet, so that has to make it true.

mr2.5 is treating me well and ive had zero reboots. i can wait a bit for the new radio.

crazyhtown said:
Pushed to mid July
Lol enjoy stock
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#1 how do you know it's been pushed back?
#2 i think most on here and happily enjoying gingerbread but thanks for the concern.

Some documents state we will be getting a removal of free mobile hotspot via ota July 6th . Maybe it will be attached to the update .
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Both the MR2 and the MR2.5 have been a good temporary fix for me, until a new radio is released.

Crazyhtown = Lol enjoy stock[/QUOTE said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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"mr2" we leaked on the forums is NOT mr2. 1.66/1.67/1.68/1.69 will not be MR2.
I can confirm OP's comments on the current "mr2" candidate version number, and give a approximate release of july 6th. With verizon things are given to change, the release date can change, so can the version being released.

Jrocker23 said:
Not really called for man. Stock, Ropoted Stock Or GB, Does it really matter, lets just help each other instead of some acting like they are better because you are on something besides stock.
Stock runs very well and so do the roms the devs are busting their butts to put out, still doesn't mean we have to knock each other...
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His comment was pretty blunt/unhelpful and rude, but there does tend to be some complaining from those that want to have their cake (those that don't want to root) and eat it too (still want updates/workarounds as quick as those that have root).
Those that seem to be frustrated by such things, perhaps android is not the phone for them or at least android phones that are not officially blessed by google (nexus phones).

[Q] why is the dev sec so quite

I know some devs have the EP1Q leak but why the heck is it so quite.. Should we be expecting some big things coming up here soon or what?
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We have four GB ROMs, not including the leak itself, that have been updated in the past month, and four Froyo ones. If you go back another month there are even more Froyo ROMs.
This really isn't quiet at all for a Samsung device -- you should go check out the Fascinate forums.
Plus, the OMFGB/OMGB ROMs are on their way eventually and you can be guaranteed that if/when they succeed in getting AOSP up and running others will follow.

Falcyn said:
We have four GB ROMs, not including the leak itself, that have been updated in the past month, and four Froyo ones. If you go back another month there are even more Froyo ROMs.
This really isn't quiet at all for a Samsung device -- you should go check out the Fascinate forums.
Plus, the OMFGB/OMGB ROMs are on their way eventually and you can be guaranteed that if/when they succeed in getting AOSP up and running others will follow.
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The Fascinate has not been quiet ever since they got the MTD CM7 build.
I was with the Fascinate ever since the beginning, and I've got to say that I've been running AOSP ever since it came out (12/29) with a working RIL. Before the MTD builds though, it was pretty much the same as we are right now with the Charge. Hopefully we have some awesome devs working on AOSP right now (I just got a Charge, so I don't know who's working for this phone) and all in time (hopefully), we will get AOSP.

Falcyn said:
We have four GB ROMs, not including the leak itself, that have been updated in the past month, and four Froyo ones. If you go back another month there are even more Froyo ROMs.
This really isn't quiet at all for a Samsung device -- you should go check out the Fascinate forums.
Plus, the OMFGB/OMGB ROMs are on their way eventually and you can be guaranteed that if/when they succeed in getting AOSP up and running others will follow.
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What are you talking about the fascinated.development section has tons of. Posts among all.the aosp and nightly threads and the phone is miles ahead development wise

(Q)ICS rom

In theory wouldn't we be able to take an ics Rom from the prime, get drivers working for our tegra to achieve hardware acceleration? Not completely sure of the differences between both devices other than the processor.
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It would take time in order for developers to translate the drivers.
Put it this way. It would be quicker, and easier, to wait even a month for the TF101 to receive ICS rather than trying to translate from the Prime to the TF101.
Rumor mill has it that the TF101 will be receiving ICS at the end of the month.

I heard a rumor about an ICS rom already out there on the web, but that's just a rumor. You have to ask yourself if it's worth it to risk your tablet's life or just wait a month. Don't do like me...

Fellas, they're already working on porting the Motorola xoom's ICS over to the TF101 as we speak. Working out a few bugs now, could possibly be here before the official ICS build if noobs will quit asking them how to flash the unfinished product and other development-unrelated questions (in other words, have a peek, but don't bug the big guys at work )
BTW TF201 has the Tegra 3, while Xoom has a tegra 2..much easier to port from what I understand..so don't hold your breath on the Prime's ICS coming to roost on your OG TF any time soon..

I saw something from Asus that said we won't be getting it until February. I'll be looking forward to the Xoom port!

brando56894 said:
I saw something from Asus that said we won't be getting it until February. I'll be looking forward to the Xoom port!
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I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...

Xoom has most of the same hardware....so they're just taking the items that aren't for our device and replacing them with proper drivers.
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Horclok said:
I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...
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For one, it isn't a risk once the devs have gotten it right to flash if you know what you are doing, there will have been 100 people who flashed the ROM repeatedly while testing before you ever gt your hands on it.
Second point- the official ICS update will almost surely take some time to Root, if your device wasn't rooted before the update, and no such problem will exist with a dev ICS ROM since it will be rooted in the source.
Final point- ICS is ICS, if the hardware works, and software functions, there isn't much difference between the official build and a ported build, except for the ported build is at the mercy of the devs to put whatever goodies and extras the official ICS build didn't include..
ICS official = wait and get stuck without root
ICS dev ROM = be here soon and have root + extras.
Which one do you prefer now?

Horclok said:
I personnally think it's stupid to take risks to get what you can get in one month, in a more adapted way. Who knows! Maybe you'll end up bricking your device...
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Outside of proprietary hardware drivers, I have yet to see an OEM ROM exceed performance of a community ROM. OEMs have nowhere near the amount of people working on their ROMs as a community version, and nowhere near the amount of eyes checking for bugs.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007

luna_c666 said:
For one, it isn't a risk once the devs have gotten it right to flash if you know what you are doing, there will have been 100 people who flashed the ROM repeatedly while testing before you ever gt your hands on it.
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There is always a risk when you flash a rom, always. Now I had your opinion before I bricked my device, and I knew what I was doing. Then again, you have to choose between security and variety.

dragon_76 said:
Outside of proprietary hardware drivers, I have yet to see an OEM ROM exceed performance of a community ROM. OEMs have nowhere near the amount of people working on their ROMs as a community version, and nowhere near the amount of eyes checking for bugs.
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This is so true. Even if the OTA ICS update were to be released, I would still wait for a Dev to mess around with it before I updated. Call me crazy, but I'm not a fan of OEM skins and their performance is always lacking.

Horclok said:
There is always a risk when you flash a rom, always. Now I had your opinion before I bricked my device, and I knew what I was doing. Then again, you have to choose between security and variety.
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How did you get a brick? Flash failed halfway through or something? I've probably flashed 100 ROMs, from xbox to android, the only device I ever bricked was a windows phone, and its just soft bricked now. I didn't know what I was doing with that thing...I've had plenty of close calls don't get me wrong, heck I lifted up a trace on my xbox motherboard and had to repair it on the spot with solder within 10 minutes or the clock-capacitor would have discharged forcing me into clock-loops (death for an xbox)..'know what you're doing' has very different levels of complexity
There is always a risk, to be sure, I should have worded myself better. But the same amount of risk as any ROM, not specific to this one..I've never heard of an OTA update failing and bricking a device, but I'm sure it can happen as well..anytime you are flashing onboard firmware there's always a chance something can go wrong. I was just saying that a Dev rom will have been flashed and booted and reflashed 100 or 1000 times by the devs during the build process before any of us 'outsiders' gets a taste of it. In my opinion, that's about as risk-free as it gets with modding these things..and in the end, who is going to upgrade to ICS without wanting it rooted? At least, who on this site?
I feel much more confident loading an already rooted ICS rom from the community than I do flashing the OTA update and wondering if I'm going to lose root/recovery etc. It is a personal opinion though..

luna_c666 said:
I feel much more confident loading an already rooted ICS rom from the community than I do flashing the OTA update and wondering if I'm going to lose root/recovery etc. It is a personal opinion though..
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This.
OEM updates of any kind are more known for borking a system than a community version and again, it is because there are many more eyes on a community version. OEM versions are seen as a necessary evil for them. The life cycle of the product is usually over or already over and they do not want to devote any resources to an endeavour that now only costs money instead of makes money.
Asus may be a little different with the TF101 because they still are selling a fair amount of them. Best Buy still keeps restocking the 16GB version and with the TF201 problems they may push the TF101 as a sort of "budget premium" since ICS completely re-invigorates older hardware (my Atrix is running an alpha build without OC and GPU accel and it is just as smooth as full GPU and OC).
I still plan on waiting for Gnufabio's ICS Revolver release.
Cheers!
-M
Xda member since 2007

dragon_76 said:
I still plan on waiting for Gnufabio's ICS Revolver release.7
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I just tingled at the thought.
ICS does breathe a lot of new life in to old hardware. My old Incredible runs it fairly smoothly, just laggs a bit on transitions. But it did make me more interested in my old phone.

[Q] ROGERS ICS Kernel

Are there any ICS Kernels for Rogers devices?
Im looking for one that hopefully has:
Boot Animations
OC/UV
BLN
Will older kernels made for GB still work in the ICS leak?

Since the ICS leak was an AT&T build, I do not believe there are any kernels for Rogers specifically. As for the GB kernels working, I'm not sure; nor would I risk the chance of bricking by flashing one.
I'm sure someone will be around soon enough who knows more than I.

OFWGKTADGAF said:
Are there any ICS Kernels for Rogers devices?
Im looking for one that hopefully has:
Boot Animations
OC/UV
BLN
Will older kernels made for GB still work in the ICS leak?
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No kernel for Rogers and no kernel that has OC/UV and BLN yet also.
GB kernel will make you bootloop so don't bother with them. ICS kernel for ICS ROM...
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kr3w1337 said:
No kernel for Rogers and no kernel that has OC/UV and BLN yet also.
GB kernel will make you bootloop so don't bother with them. ICS kernel for ICS ROM...
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I think i may have already flashed an unsecure kernel... i dont remember if i did or not.
Can anyone upload the stock kernel for me?

outside of a couple of insecure kernels, nothing else out there. i don't believe the source code for the kernels has dropped either. Once that happens I am sure there will be some out there with what you are looking for.

called Rogers today to inquire about the ics update that the sales person told me was coming soon 2 months ago and they told me they don't know when and if it's going to happen once samsung gives them the update they will put it out and that each rogers store is franchised, independently owned and operated so basically washed their hands of it and that I would need to deal with the store manager directly for any compensation or apology looks like canadians are going to wait a long time before we get official ICS next time def gonna go with a nexus and **** this bull****

Rogers updates, not
My 15 year experience as a Rogers customer has shown that it has never updated the kernel or firmware on the phones that I've purchased while every other non-canadian providers did (very frustrating).
Rogers only updates its bloatware. What you buy is what you live with unless you mod. If you want new firmware, Rogers wants you to buy a new phone.
As far as I know, the only exception to this "policy" is if you have an iPhone but then that's a different kettle of fish because you are dealing with Apple not Rogers. But I can't really confirm this as I've never been an Apple user. I don't care for Apple's Orwellian business model.
Ciao!

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My 15 year experience as a Rogers customer has shown that it has never updated the kernel or firmware on the phones that I've purchased while every other non-canadian providers did (very frustrating).
Rogers only updates its bloatware. What you buy is what you live with unless you mod. If you want new firmware, Rogers wants you to buy a new phone.
As far as I know, the only exception to this "policy" is if you have an iPhone but then that's a different kettle of fish because you are dealing with Apple not Rogers. But I can't really confirm this as I've never been an Apple user. I don't care for Apple's Orwellian business model.
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I agree with you Phil. I have had 3 Android handsets, and if I didn't root and flash, I would still be on ver 2.3.3.
It is a blessing that there are (collectively) these amazing individuals that can make sense of the software, to give us the plethora of features we get to enjoy.
Maybe it is just me, but I tried and tried my hand at modding... Let's just say, I would rather be envious of the Dev's than screw up my laptop again.
Thanks to all the Dev's that put in the time it takes to make these amazing mods.

So with ICS out, is there a better chance of a dev porting Jelly Bean?

So just like the title says, I was wondering with ICS now out is it more possible or likely that we will see a dev port a version of Jelly bean?

This type of speculation really doesn't do any good. ICS has been on devices for less than 2 weeks now. Let's just let it filter out and get widespread before we go on to the Next Big Thing. Developers will do what they do, which is develop. The best way for you to get what you want is to help them by learning how to do work on the device and software.
This community needs more giving back, and less demanding and taking.

Im looking at signing up for some C++ clases so I can start learning to start giving back

KazeOne said:
Im looking at signing up for some C++ clases so I can start learning to start giving back
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I don't really know what that dude's deal was in the other thread. C++ is in no way needed. A firm understanding of how the components of a Linux based operating system work is far more useful. Very few, if any, "devs" in the Android community are doing real, low level, kernel development. The vast majority of work on Android is nothing more than building in modules and rearranging/writing simple scripts.
Basically, start learning why things are like they are. It is flat out amazing to me that it took literally MONTHS to figure out the DHCPCD script was just wrong in the CM9 builds. It blows my mind that this took months, and that's the only reason I am starting to get involved with this device now. I am perfectly happy with stock operations.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2012/0...update/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Galaxy S2 might even get jelly bean. If THEY get it I would sure hope we would get it too. But either way all we need is a similar exynos device JB release, oh and source code wouldnt hurt either.
How long has it been since Austia ICS released for 7.7 and 7.0 plus? almost 2 weeks?
does it take that long to add their CSC bloat? perhaps they're going striaght to JB and just gave us the one ICS build they had to tide us over, considering they released it around the same time JB was announced.
we will see.

I think you don't need to worry about Jelly Bean right now. We can consider ourselves already very lucky there's someone working on porting CyanogenMod 9 on this fine tablet.
When CM9 is finished, their devs will start on CM10 (based on JB) right away. They stated the work for this version is not as big as with CM7 --> 9. If the same is valid for porting CM10 to a P62xx, just follow the Cyanogenmod page for updates and you'll be fine.