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DG's new rom? Speculation & rumor abound!

I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??

Just know that once you flash a rom, it wont be your last. DG roms are very good, along with Phoenix & Serendipity(my favorite).
I've flashed a handful of DG roms & I personally always find myself flashing back to one of Mikeys roms, he really knows his stuff.
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t-readyroc said:
I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
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This is what we all said before we popped the cherry!LOL

Well last I thought DesignGears was working on the Gingerbread ROM for Galaxy S Phone ported from the Nexus S. And Supercurio was working with the Cyanogen Team on the project as well so maybe they're all in kahootz now. They haven't posted an update on it in awhile so maybe it's coming along good.
But it would be nice to get ahold of that Rogers Froyo, at a good stable point. At least then we'd have everything built for our Captivates specifically.

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But it would be nice to get ahold of that Rogers Froyo, at a good stable point. At least then we'd have everything built for our Captivates specifically.
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Right, & I believe that this is what's happening now. The Rogers Froyo that was just officially released via Kies is what I think DG's working with.
Am I totally off-base w/the Captivate/i9000/sound processor bit?
& yeah, I know what you all mean about constantly switching around, but I really only flashed a handful of times w/my old HTC. Guess I'm lazy

I started off as a noob, and basically still am. My first flash was cog 2.8 I believe. Now its something different every other day. You can't stop yourself one you've started.
Its an addiction for sure. Best of luck flashing once and that's it. I hope that works better for you than it did for me.
I'm so addicted that I got my wife a captivate also so I can try things on hers to see the differences from what I'm running.
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I'm digging the work being done on the armani rom.
From a phone

As the poster above stated, many devs are working on an Armani JL1 rom right now. I am unsure what DG is doing/planning though. Just putting it out there.

Just like t-readyroc I've been holding off on my first flash. I don't think I can wait for official froyo any longer. I just keep thinking that once I flash a newer, more stable, rom will be released. So I don't know if I should wait or just take the plunge.
I'm still reading around on the most stable release. Any one have recommendations on a rom that is stable and easy to install.
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My choices before hearing that DG's latest release is imminent were Phoenix 3.0 & Perception 10.1. Now I'm also reading that Phoenix 3.5 is imminent. Bah!

Great, thanks t-readyroc for making my decision even harder. Lol
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t-readyroc said:
I've been doing a metric ton of reading before I flash my first rom. I was all set to flash P10.1 when I read a few posts by DG that led me to believe that Cog3 might be right around the corner.
Now I've read a further few posts by DG that state that Cognition is dead, because (his reasoning) Cog was always a pure-Captivate rom, & the latest rom he's working on isn't purely Captivate-based. Another few of his posts & accompanying posts by other users in those threads have led me to believe that whatever he's got cooking will be based on the "official" Rogers FroYo release. Maybe it's mostly based from that stock rom but has other add-ons from the i9000 line (i.e. to make it not pure-Captivate)?
After all my reading, I think that flashing a Captivate-based rom would be the way to go, if only for the fact that it would include the ability to utilize the sound processor (afaik, there aren't i9000-based roms that can do this, correct?).
Anyway, I'm sitting here twiddling my thumbs since Monday waiting to see what DG's got in the oven & figured I'd start a thread to see what you all thought. This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
tl;dr What's next from DG??
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I flashed my first rom the other day (Serendipity 2.0) from stock, and the difference has been NIGHT & DAY! It blows my mind that Samsung can put out somthing THAT crappy compared to what their device is capable of.
Then yesterday I flashed a new modem and kernel. I'm hooked.

What's the benefits of a new modem and kernel?
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t-readyroc said:
This will be my first flash, & I don't plan to do a ton of switching around, so I want to get it "right" the first time.
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yeah, right...
come back in a couple of months and read your own post, you will lol

JohnnyDanger said:
Just like t-readyroc I've been holding off on my first flash. I don't think I can wait for official froyo any longer. I just keep thinking that once I flash a newer, more stable, rom will be released. So I don't know if I should wait or just take the plunge.
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if you keep waiting for what's around the corner, you will never get anywhere. stop torturing yourself and flash something. if you don't like a rom, you can always go back to stock and try something else

For what its worth I think it would be great to have Supercurio's audio tweaks integrated into the FireBird Kernel. Truly an enhancement.

sublimaze said:
if you keep waiting for what's around the corner, you will never get anywhere. stop torturing yourself and flash something. if you don't like a rom, you can always go back to stock and try something else
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See, for me, it's going to be the constant app/music/data restores every time that'll prevent me from being a flash-whore...
Anyway, to get back OT, one of the reasons I was really interested in P10.1 was the fact that the launcher works in landscape mode. Are there others that do the same?
& again back OT: Captivate/i9000 roms & the use (or lack thereof) of the Captivate's hardware audio processor - are there any kernels that work with i9000 roms that make use of it? Or are all i9000 roms stuck doing the processing in software?

t-readyroc said:
See, for me, it's going to be the constant app/music/data restores every time that'll prevent me from being a flash-whore...
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purchase titanium backup pro
it takes about 20 minutes from start to finish to flash a new rom for the complete process.

I said the same thing, "gonna find my fav rom and stick with it" That was a few years and phones ago and still flashing like crazy lol

But see, flashing whole new roms for the most part is almost a waste of time. Because usually why do you flash a new rom?
From the looks of a lot of ROM threads, going from release to release all the changes a lot of times are the installed system apps, and the themes to go with them. Yes, occasionaly there is a bigger release that warrants a new kernel or something of that nature.
To me, as an end user, ROM's could all use the same base rom (which they don't) and most people wouldn't know the difference. So find a ROM that doesn't force close on you, and flash the themes and apps you want into your ROM.
Personally I went from Flashing every ROM out there, and then just sticking to one that works, is deodexed so I can do whatever I want to it, and won't cause me to throw my phone in the trash.

[Q] 2.2 (Non-USCC) or 2.3 ROM for Mesmerize?

Is there a 2.2 (that doesn't come from USCC) or 2.3 ROM available for the Mesmerize?

King Mustard said:
Is there a 2.2 (that doesn't come from USCC) or 2.3 ROM available for the Mesmerize?
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Well, being that 2.2 isn't out yet for the Mesmerize from USCC, yes. Now if you are talking about something other than the intended firmware, then the simple answer is no. If you want to flash AOSP there is a few variations floating about. All of which will make some part of your phone non functional. There is a mostly non working port of MIUI that is available also. There are several options right now. None of which are really that great for someone who wants a fully functional phone at this point and most of which are for the Fascinate so I really don't recommend them even though a lot of people are able to flash them and come back. It really depends on what you are wanting. We are currently working on a couple of things, but again, they will be based on the firmware that is coming out from USCC so if you are trying to get away from that type of firmware, then you will have to wait until those projects are done and we get source code for 2.2 to get other things working.

phidelt82 said:
Well, being that 2.2 isn't out yet for the Mesmerize from USCC, yes. Now if you are talking about something other than the intended firmware, then the simple answer is no. If you want to flash AOSP there is a few variations floating about. All of which will make some part of your phone non functional. There is a mostly non working port of MIUI that is available also. There are several options right now. None of which are really that great for someone who wants a fully functional phone at this point and most of which are for the Fascinate so I really don't recommend them even though a lot of people are able to flash them and come back. It really depends on what you are wanting. We are currently working on a couple of things, but again, they will be based on the firmware that is coming out from USCC so if you are trying to get away from that type of firmware, then you will have to wait until those projects are done and we get source code for 2.2 to get other things working.
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I was hoping there was news of a experimental build of CyanogenMod for the Mesmerize or something like that, but if not, that's fine. Hurry up USCC, release 2.2!

King Mustard said:
I was hoping there was news of a experimental build of CyanogenMod for the Mesmerize or something like that, but if not, that's fine. Hurry up USCC, release 2.2!
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There is a spot on their site for Galaxy S, but no team assigned, so no cyanogen - at least in the near future.

These things are on my list guys (= But as the semester progresses I have less and less free time. If you want to wait I will get around to it eventually. Alternatively, you can read up on Android development and start to chip in (= It would be awesome to get some others working on this stuff since it's a lot for 2 people to handle right now. Soo that's the current situation..

Work 40+ hours a week, plus 10 college credits this semester... If I had some free time I'd love to get involved in development. Maybe in the summer if there's still a need in the scene.

dcow90 said:
These things are on my list guys (= But as the semester progresses I have less and less free time. If you want to wait I will get around to it eventually. Alternatively, you can read up on Android development and start to chip in (= It would be awesome to get some others working on this stuff since it's a lot for 2 people to handle right now. Soo that's the current situation..
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Soon as I learn more about java, I'll be pitching in for sure

Well Android is written in C and a little C++, might want to read up on that.

[Q] DesignGears gone?

I've been trying to download some new ROMS and Designgears page never comes up. just times out. am I missing something?

Captain Quack said:
I've been trying to download some new ROMS and Designgears page never comes up. just times out. am I missing something?
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DG is no longer supporting the various ROMs he created for Captivate. From what I gather, he felt he'd gone as far as he could go to improve the basic Captivate OS, at least with Froyo. I'm not sure about Gingerbread, since I've never gone past using Cognition, being very happy with it.
However, if you indicate which ROMs you are interested in trying, someone should be able to upload a zipped version so you... or you can scan the Cognition threads themselves, or this Q and A. People have occasionally asked for and received versions of Cognition that were no longer directly available through the usual channels. Believe me, just because they're no longer supported, that doesn't mean they aren't still great ROMs.

ah. that explains a few things. I spent almost 2 hours searching forums and threads to find out. I had cognition before and am now trying some different ones. ok. now I know. thank you very much.

I believe Cog5 was DG's last call for the Captivate. He's moved on to brighter and better devices.

hmm, I had cog 3 for the longest time. if I can find 5 I'll give it a try.

Here is the Gingerbread Cognition 5 thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127578
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You aren't looking hard enough - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127578
His Cog5 stays right on first/second page of Captivate Android Development forum.

Designgears moved on to the SGSII.
Last Froyo rom was 4.5.3, which was modified with all good things that can be done with source code.
Last GB rom was 5v2, which was based on a 2.3.3 Gingerbread Release.
Pinnacle from watsa, Version 1.2/3 was on KH3, a 2.3.4 GB release
Illuminance, Fasty, and others are based on KJ3, a 2.3.5 GB release, and the most recent Samsung leak.
Currently trying Illuminance.

I got some old sre versions
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thanks for all the leads guys. and Illuminated one. I spent 2 hours going through hundreds and hundreds of messages in who knows how many threads. don't tell me I didn't try hard enough.

Have you pm'd DesignGears? He's still on xda, just a different forum (I think).

not yet. I not wedded to Cognition. just wanting to try out different ROMS and try to learn more about all this by doing. all kinds of different apps with different version depending on what your doing, different kernels. different ways of getting into download and recovery that sometimes work. it gets a bit confusing. a lot of this is written with people who know what they are looking at in mind.
not whining. just a bit frustrated.

I didnt know what I was looking at, when I first started modding my phone. I just kept staring at it and reading until it started to make sense. And if/when I buy another phone, I will have to start all over again.

you mean I have to buy another phone!!!! (silly grin). my wife gets this one when I upgrade. (angry birds addict) but at least I'll have some basics. I learn better by doing and using visual things like videos. search Youtube for videos about flashing Captivates! then you have to sort the good from the bad. I got lucky with MobileTechvideos.

Yeah, that's where I started. I think the s2 isn't that different, but I looked in the Inspire forum once and it's a completely different language.

Captain Quack said:
a lot of this is written with people who know what they are looking at in mind.
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thats the entire point of XDA. we all came here and LEARNED about all this stuff. its expected that other people that come here are here to learn. not make their phone cool

I would agree. Cool phone is just a perk

He moved on a couple months ago to work on SGSII ROMs. Last GB update was Cog 5v2 on KH3 (I think), but no dev took over his project. Apex/Pinnacle is also no longer being developed by Watsaa.
Fasty works for me as Logic updates it frequently. The prior FireFly dev is doing great work on Fusion (ATT) and Mosaic (i-9000). Tradeoff is that ATT GB ROMs are not open sourced, so the development is not as extensive as i-9000, but at least you get the audience chip support with ATT ROMs.
Cyanogen/MIUI are also excellent options.

I'm running GR_12 at the moment. cyanogen and continuum are already on my HD. I'll take a look at Mosaic. be nice to finaly be able to use the power button as a shutter button.
I'm ROMing my phone to get better use and efficiency. not to make it cool, I find all the themes and pretty prettys to be a poor use of the processing power and battery runtime.

Hi, I am around, on hiatus from everything atm

Why did team gummy/liberty bail on the charge?

I am wondering why team gummy bailed on the Droid charge.
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Afaik they haven't bailed, the charge just isn't a priority right now. Especially with constant leaks it is very time consuming having to update their rom for each new build. I'm pretty sure that's why Imnuts hasn't officially updated Infinity rom in a while since those two roms take A LOT of work to do. I'm guessing once an ota is released team liberty/gummy will update.

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Afaik they haven't bailed, the charge just isn't a priority right now. Especially with constant leaks it is very time consuming having to update their rom for each new build. I'm pretty sure that's why Imnuts hasn't officially updated Infinity rom in a while since those two roms take A LOT of work to do. I'm guessing once an ota is released team liberty/gummy will update.
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+1. 10 char.

My guess, and only a guess, is that they are waiting for an official build at this point. The leaks have been promising and it seems like an official build might be closer than far away. With an official build comes source code and all the tweaks and customizations which that allows... so just my theory.
They don't owe anyone anything and if they did decide to move onto another device that is their own decision. People like that do these things for the fun of it and sometimes moving onto something new is more fun for them than waiting around for a device that takes too long to get updates from the manufacturer.
Some people stick with a phone for several years. Other people stick with it for several weeks or months before getting bit by the "latest and greatest" bug. So, try to look at things from as many sides as you can... I try to, but I don't always do that myself.

[Q] Wow this place has changed/Practical kexec and ROM explanation?

Hi guys,
I used to be a regular on this forum, and was very fluent in all of the latest techniques, but when ICS Official came out, I decided to chill away from phone modding for a while (that addiction). It's been almost a year since I've visited this place.
When I left, rdavisct had broken his phone, jimbridgman had announced his leaving, and development section was slowing to a standstill. Imagine my surprise when I returned a year later to find a slew of 4.3 ROMs that back in my day were unimaginable.
So after spending the past couple of days trying to read through all of the posts that have occurred in the last year and failing, I have concluded that running kexec is the standard now? I'm assuming all ROMs above ICS are using kexec? And that kexec is more unstable/battery consuming?
Also, how are the ROMs now? Are the cutting edge ones with kexec fast and stable and battery efficient? Are there even any non-kexec ROMs now to default to? Does rdavisct's SCv7 work on rooted official ICS despite being built with leak 2?
Sorry for the extended post. I'm trying to catch back up so I can dig back in . Also I'm hoping this will be helpful to other people trying to find a practical explanation of kexec.
P.S. My official ICS has suddenly dramatically begun lagging in the past three weeks, just like several other people who have posted here, and it's the reason I'm searching for a ROM again. Weird huh.
P.P.S. I spent the last year sort of messing around with an LG Nitro HD, which is perfect on paper but terrible in reality (no battery life on any ROM, incredibly painful heating up and subsequent crashing). Nothing beats our old A2 :highfive:

iarejohnsmith said:
Hi guys,
I used to be a regular on this forum, and was very fluent in all of the latest techniques, but when ICS Official came out, I decided to chill away from phone modding for a while (that addiction). It's been almost a year since I've visited this place.
When I left, rdavisct had broken his phone, jimbridgman had announced his leaving, and development section was slowing to a standstill. Imagine my surprise when I returned a year later to find a slew of 4.3 ROMs that back in my day were unimaginable.
So after spending the past couple of days trying to read through all of the posts that have occurred in the last year and failing, I have concluded that running kexec is the standard now? I'm assuming all ROMs above ICS are using kexec? And that kexec is more unstable/battery consuming?
Also, how are the ROMs now? Are the cutting edge ones with kexec fast and stable and battery efficient? Are there even any non-kexec ROMs now to default to? Does rdavisct's SCv7 work on rooted official ICS despite being built with leak 2?
Sorry for the extended post. I'm trying to catch back up so I can dig back in . Also I'm hoping this will be helpful to other people trying to find a practical explanation of kexec.
P.S. My official ICS has suddenly dramatically begun lagging in the past three weeks, just like several other people who have posted here, and it's the reason I'm searching for a ROM again. Weird huh.
P.P.S. I spent the last year sort of messing around with an LG Nitro HD, which is perfect on paper but terrible in reality (no battery life on any ROM, incredibly painful heating up and subsequent crashing). Nothing beats our old A2 :highfive:
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Yeah there is a ton that has happened in the last year on here.
I am still on the A2 form a day or two a week, now.
There are a ton of ported roms from the razor, that work well, and AOSP is out with the kexec kernel, and many other things.
Yes the kexec kernel is on a lot of ROMS but not all, there are a ton that are still not kexec, and others that are only kexec, and then some that can run either way (since some still can not boot kexec kernels, and that appears to be a luck of the draw with certain peoples phones), and why there are some with the choice to run with or without.
I would say kexec is much better now, but it still takes a little more battery than a non kexec kernel, but not all that much, it really depends on what you are doing with it and if you OC and the like too.
Yes you can run SCV7 with the official ICS version, without any issue (leak 2 is 100% the same as the final version).

jimbridgman said:
Yes the kexec kernel is on a lot of ROMS but not all, there are a ton that are still not kexec, and others that are only kexec, and then some that can run either way (since some still can not boot kexec kernels, and that appears to be a luck of the draw with certain peoples phones), and why there are some with the choice to run with or without.
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Woah, pleasant surprise to have Jim himself reply haha. Thanks fam.
Is kexec only doing stuff to get the alternate kernel working? If that's the case could there be/are there non-kexec ROMs above ICS, or would that be pointless?