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ugh 1 to 2 more weeks! hopefully
http://www.popherald.com/t-mobile-g2x-lg-gingerbread-update-rumor/7496
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Look, it's not hard to connect the dots here:
We've heard numerous people say T-Mobile has been giving employees G2X's with Gingerbread for bug testing over the past month or so. We've even seen it on G2Xs at E3.
Yesterday, LG tweeted that the Gingerbread update would 'probably not be released today' and that they're trying to release it ASAP.
Within the last 24 hours, LG Forum mods have stated to count on it being released by the end of June at the latest. They've also said 'if all goes well, it will be released very soon.'
Now, based on those three things, let's use our thinking caps: LG has probably sent a final version of the GB update to T-Mobile for bug testing (we know they've been doing this because of point #1.) It was likely sent to T-Mobile within the past few days, which is not enough time to thoroughly test and is why LG tweeted that it probably wouldn't be released yesterday (point #2.) They haven't released a date yet because they don't know if there are any unforeseen bugs, but 'if all goes well' (i.e., no bugs are found in the latest build), it should be released immediately (point #3.)
It's very clear the update is coming and they're trying their best to resolve all of the issues people have been complaining about. Do you understand what a disaster it would be if they released an update that didn't fix the issues the phone currently has? They're obviously trying to fix everything that they can and are unwilling to push out a buggy update for the sake of doing so. 1-2 weeks is a very reasonable timeline and if the internal T-Mobile testing goes well we will most likely see it by Tuesday, the first day of Summer, which they've said would be the release date all along.
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Look, it's not hard to connect the dots here:
We've heard numerous people say T-Mobile has been giving employees G2X's with Gingerbread for bug testing over the past month or so. We've even seen it on G2Xs at E3.
Yesterday, LG tweeted that the Gingerbread update would 'probably not be released today' and that they're trying to release it ASAP.
Within the last 24 hours, LG Forum mods have stated to count on it being released by the end of June at the latest. They've also said 'if all goes well, it will be released very soon.'
Now, based on those three things, let's use our thinking caps: LG has probably sent a final version of the GB update to T-Mobile for bug testing (we know they've been doing this because of point #1.) It was likely sent to T-Mobile within the past few days, which is not enough time to thoroughly test and is why LG tweeted that it probably wouldn't be released yesterday (point #2.) They haven't released a date yet because they don't know if there are any unforeseen bugs, but 'if all goes well' (i.e., no bugs are found in the latest build), it should be released immediately (point #3.)
It's very clear the update is coming and they're trying their best to resolve all of the issues people have been complaining about. Do you understand what a disaster it would be if they released an update that didn't fix the issues the phone currently has? They're obviously trying to fix everything that they can and are unwilling to push out a buggy update for the sake of doing so. 1-2 weeks is a very reasonable timeline and if the internal T-Mobile testing goes well we will most likely see it by Tuesday, the first day of Summer, which they've said would be the release date all along.
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Great post. Everything you said makes complete sense, so all of us waiting for gingerbread should just relax and wait until June 21st.
We've heard numerous people say T-Mobile has been giving employees G2X's with Gingerbread for bug testing over the past month or so. We've even seen it on G2Xs at E3.
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We've seen a leaked GB ROM, which was still sitting on the same kernel; it exhibited all the same issues that people have complained about.
A close look at the various GB 'leak' videos also show the same kernel.
I sure hope we see something soon, but if it's 'gingerbread' running on the existing kernel...I'm not hopeful. There could be a considerable number of fixes in the NVidia user space daemons, that would be a plus, but without a kernel rev? I'm thinking that would be a problem.
Hey DebauchedSloth, first thank you for your work on the battery driver. I'm unaware of any videos that actually show builds of Gingerbread that are more recent than the leak that came out almost a month and a half ago. I agree that it would be a bad move to not update the kernel, but there's no saying that they won't and I'm not sure if those leak videos are a reliable indicator of what the final update will be like.
Out of curiosity, since Faux and others have done work on custom kernels, is it really a problem if LG doesn't update theirs? It seems like something that the current G2X devs can't fix is ****ty drivers and unexposed Tegra features, but the kernel is fair game for tweaking and modifying. All I'm hoping to get from the GB update is a more stable set of hardware drivers, so that custom ROMs won't be stuck with the same bugs that the stock ROM has.
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We've seen a leaked GB ROM, which was still sitting on the same kernel; it exhibited all the same issues that people have complained about.
A close look at the various GB 'leak' videos also show the same kernel.
I sure hope we see something soon, but if it's 'gingerbread' running on the existing kernel...I'm not hopeful. There could be a considerable number of fixes in the NVidia user space daemons, that would be a plus, but without a kernel rev? I'm thinking that would be a problem.
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What about other phones with same or older kernel? Do they have same reboot/freeze issue? If not, I believe drivers are the culprit for most of the issues we've seen on G2x.
The GB leak is just "GB" leak, which means it doesn't include the driver fixes. So it's not a surprise that it still has same issues Froyo G2x has.
Daaaamn again ?
What about other phones with same or older kernel? Do they have same reboot/freeze issue? If not, I believe drivers are the culprit for most of the issues we've seen on G2x.
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I think the drivers are responsible for almost all of the issues with this phone. And it is deeply frustrating, because the hardware itself is awesome.
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lol im so over gingerbread for the g2x "out by summer" **** and if u look it said rumor again so u never know....we just gotta wait it out!!!
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lol im so over gingerbread for the g2x "out by summer" **** and if u look it said rumor again so u never know....we just gotta wait it out!!!
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I say if its not, we bombard their twitter and facebook demanding it like we did in the vibrant forum....things got done rather quickly to get us a update..
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I think the drivers are responsible for almost all of the issues with this phone. And it is deeply frustrating, because the hardware itself is awesome.
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+1 on software side issues. Why? Because so far EB gb v1.1 doesn't hang up nor reboots on me unlike other. I don't know what he is doing. Maybe it's just placibo, maybe it's not but it works for me.
Also, coming from HD2 (hyperdroid builds), I learn to wait for the better roms.
Hopefully, there will really be an official update for our g2x this year.
@all, patience is a virtue and whining is not.
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lol im so over gingerbread for the g2x "out by summer" **** and if u look it said rumor again so u never know....we just gotta wait it out!!!
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i agree..im over this gingerbread fiasco ...but the "out by summer" isnt a rumer...tmobile tweeted that on may 25th
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It seems like something that the current G2X devs can't fix is ****ty drivers and unexposed Tegra features, but the kernel is fair game for tweaking and modifying. All I'm hoping to get from the GB update is a more stable set of hardware drivers, so that custom ROMs won't be stuck with the same bugs that the stock ROM has
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The kernel is fair game, but a lot of the hardware control is in the NVidia user space process. So, for example, the G2X has the same WM8994 sound chip that the Nexus S has, but control of that is in the NV userspace daemon, so a full on voodoo sound driver is not really possible. You can hack at some of the stuff, which I did in one of my patches to faux's kernel, but it really doesn't work so well and you can't go all out.
Similarly, the battery driver really needs access to the underlying charge controller and is basically guessing at the charge state by reading what it can (current voltage.) You can see your self how well that works. Poorly.
So we wait on LG/NV for fixes.
Or we go ahead and spend a lot of time and effort to work around this, if it's even possible in some cases.
Just Googled "Out by Summer". I was referred to a School summer lunch program, a few Alice Cooper videos, and a few other things. But no magic release date for GB on the G2x.
If the date is not in Google...its no where.
It'll be here. Evidence proves it to be very soon.
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The kernel is fair game, but a lot of the hardware control is in the NVidia user space process. So, for example, the G2X has the same WM8994 sound chip that the Nexus S has, but control of that is in the NV userspace daemon, so a full on voodoo sound driver is not really possible. You can hack at some of the stuff, which I did in one of my patches to faux's kernel, but it really doesn't work so well and you can't go all out.
Similarly, the battery driver really needs access to the underlying charge controller and is basically guessing at the charge state by reading what it can (current voltage.) You can see your self how well that works. Poorly.
So we wait on LG/NV for fixes.
Or we go ahead and spend a lot of time and effort to work around this, if it's even possible in some cases.
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Even the SGS2 can't get voodoo sound driver working. Supercurio, god of all Voodoo gods, threw in the towel the other day as the SGS2 uses new yamaha sound drivers that are all messed up as well.
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Just Googled "Out by Summer". I was referred to a School summer lunch program, a few Alice Cooper videos, and a few other things. But no magic release date for GB on the G2x.
If the date is not in Google...its no where.
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its on there twitter...go to tmobiles twitter and check out may 25th...google search does not search tweets.
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Even the SGS2 can't get voodoo sound driver working. Supercurio, god of all Voodoo gods, threw in the towel the other day as the SGS2 uses new yamaha sound drivers that are all messed up as well.
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Thought that was because the Yamaha sound chip was no good. G2X has a great chip, but no open source drivers (since the driver itself is in the NV binary blob).
Doubt Gingerbread will fix that. Hopefully will make things more stable...but more hackable? Doubt it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crt5xhLWmnM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Found this on Mydroidworld. Looks like they have done alot of work! Thanks p3droid for giving us a sneak peek.
I'm.... speechless
Looks like Froyo with an edited build that someone got Netflix to work on. But I hope I'm wrong.
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Looks like Froyo with an edited build that someone got Netflix to work on. But I hope I'm wrong.
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We all hope you're wrong, lol.
Native Gingerbread should be coming soon seeing as the Thunderbolt will be receiving it before the end of June. Hopefully we can get that so we can see alot more custom ROM builds being made.
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Native Gingerbread should be coming soon seeing as the Thunderbolt will be receiving it before the end of June. Hopefully we can get that so we can see alot more custom ROM builds being made.
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Ya I heard the TB was getting it June 30th so I would assume roughly a month later for the Charge but I also heard that they were going to just skip giving the Charge GB and go straight to ICS, that's one thing I hate about these cell phone companies, they never give us definite release dates on anything, it's always leak this, rumor that...
Where'd you hear that the Charge would be getting ICS straight from Froyo? It'd be great to get it soon, but I doubt this will be the first phone to get it by any means, and I'm sure they'll have Gingerbread ready before ICS comes out.
Anyway, this is awesome. I knew Samsung was working on Gingerbread, and its already out for the other SGS phones, so it can't be that long. But I'm wondering if TBH got it on there themselves, or if they were able to procure a pre-release build leak. I'm thinking the latter because of the apparently stock ROM otherwise, but then again maybe that was the most stable way to do it.
Its from P3Droid and Team Black Hat, so for those saying its fake, its not. This is great though, apparently that thread worked and they're showing some real interest in this device. With Gingerbread right around the corner, it'd be great to have CM7 to look forward to! Can't wait to see this get out in some build we can use...
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Where'd you hear that the Charge would be getting ICS straight from Froyo? It'd be great to get it soon, but I doubt this will be the first phone to get it by any means, and I'm sure they'll have Gingerbread ready before ICS comes out.
Anyway, this is awesome. I knew Samsung was working on Gingerbread, and its already out for the other SGS phones, so it can't be that long. But I'm wondering if TBH got it on there themselves, or if they were able to procure a pre-release build leak. I'm thinking the latter because of the apparently stock ROM otherwise, but then again maybe that was the most stable way to do it.
Its from P3Droid and Team Black Hat, so for those saying its fake, its not. This is great though, apparently that thread worked and they're showing some real interest in this device. With Gingerbread right around the corner, it'd be great to have CM7 to look forward to! Can't wait to see this get out in some build we can use...
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Nononono I was reading somewhere, I think it was an Android Forum, they were talking about the Charge not getting Gingerbread and just going Froyo > Icecream, I'm not saying it was going to get it first I meant it wouldn't be getting Gingerbread, it's not confirmed information at all but Gingerbread isn't confirmed either so that's why I'm a bit skeptical
I can't wait to get Netflix to work.
Anyone get Netflix to work on 2.2.1 EE4?
I have read several forums where people have been told by Verizon and/or Samsung reps. that they are not working on gb for the Charge and that they plan to just skip to ICS...although this info is probably coming from some tech support guy in India who can hardly speak English so who knows. I'm just happy to see that SOMEONE is working on getting this thing up-to-date, even if it isn't the corporations that should have released it with 2.3 in the first place...
Well we have a gb leak so they must have been working on it.
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Looks like Froyo with an edited build that someone got Netflix to work on. But I hope I'm wrong.
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Wrong it is in fact and actual GB build for the Charge. I did not see that actual device in the video but I have in fact seen the file and watched it be flashed to a Charge. Its coming just a matter of when the release hits. Word I've gotten is hopefully around Aug time frame.
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Ya I heard the TB was getting it June 30th so I would assume roughly a month later for the Charge but I also heard that they were going to just skip giving the Charge GB and go straight to ICS, that's one thing I hate about these cell phone companies, they never give us definite release dates on anything, it's always leak this, rumor that...
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Completely inaccurate. ICS is not even going to be ready for til 4th Qtr to start with. And as for GB it will for sure be coming to the Charge and in the not to distant future like I just stated.
Not sure why anyone would think that the release of Gingerbread on the Charge will somehow fall into some kind of lockstep timing schedule (30 days after) with the Thunderbolt, when the Thunderbolt is an HTC device and the Charge is Samsung. Two different companies, two different set of internal developers, two different business models etc, etc.
We might get GB next week, or next year, or never, I don't know, but I do know that the release of GB on the TB has nothing to do with the release of GB on the Charge.
Sad that GB is over a year old now, and we're still getting Froyo on the "top of the line" devices and still stressing over when, if ever, we'll get it on three month old devices.
I doubt that any vendors besides the one creating the next Nexus phone has ics. It's nearly half a year away from announcement. Anyways, P3Droid is completely legit. He released gingerbread for the fascinate last week. He ran a video much like that one and people said that he was running froyo and being skeptical. I was running that gb build on my fascinate until I broke it and purchased a charge. If he says he has it, he has it. He apparently has a leaker and I thank God that he does.
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I doubt that any vendors besides the one creating the next Nexus phone has ics. It's nearly half a year away from announcement. Anyways, P3Droid is completely legit. He released gingerbread for the fascinate last week. He ran a video much like that one and people said that he was running froyo and being skeptical. I was running that gb build on my fascinate until I broke it and purchased a charge. If he says he has it, he has it. He apparently has a leaker and I thank God that he does.
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Glad to see the Fascinate finally got a real GB. Took Sammy many many months to even give us Froyo which we had a working copy of in January.
I am wondering when we will get a leaked version of this?
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Sad that GB is over a year old now, and we're still getting Froyo on the "top of the line" devices and still stressing over when, if ever, we'll get it on three month old devices.
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You mean 6-8 months old, nowhere near "over a year" old yet. It came out around November-December of 2010, or 6-7 months ago. No need to over exagerate.
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Well we have a gb leak so they must have been working on it.
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Explain. IRC?
The Charge had a GB leak. That is how TBH got a hold of it. I'm thinking other Devs could possibly get a hold of this leak if you know where to look....
But anyway, When I had my DX, TBH was the first to publish a ROM with the leaked GB kernel. They know what they are doing for sure.
I recommend following P3Droid on Twitter. He ususally drops info on a daily basis that I find very interesting. He mentioned weeks ago running netflix on the Charge via Twitter.
Anyone have a date for gingerbread release for droid charge?
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You will not find anyone on here with a definitive release date. We just got our first leak of gingerbread a few days ago. I would put my money on August-September, but who knows. Why wait? Just flash the rom today!
Yeah, we just got the first leak, but it is not yet that stable or usable daily for many people. I would expect we'll get the official version some time in the next month, though they may make us wait a little longer if they have any issues. I would expect a stable working build from our awesome devs a bit sooner, as they'll be stripping out most of the bloatware, that tends to delay development. No way to put a timeline on that, as the devs have other lives and real jobs, haha, and we don't know how difficult the remaining bugs are to overcome.
Just try the stable Froyo roms out now and see which you like best and stick with that until you hear something more. Check here as often as you like, as we'll most likely hear about a stable release (from the devs or official) before anywhere else (cept maybe rootzwiki...).
Or just flash the leak and deal with the issues if you're feeling adventurous and don't need a reliable phone for the next few days.
Thanks cruise?!
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Stable
Very stable. Running for 2 days with no problems at all. Netflix also works but HDMI does not so far, other than that, its awesome GB2.
add all the mods and it takes care of a lot of the problems people were complaining about.
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You will not find anyone on here with a definitive release date. We just got our first leak of gingerbread a few days ago. I would put my money on August-September, but who knows. Why wait? Just flash the rom today!
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you know...the Gingerbread Leak from the other day is far from a fine tuned build... I flashed it the day it hit the TBH app, and had a terrible time with radio connectivity and battery life...
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Yeah, we just got the first leak, but it is not yet that stable or usable daily for many people. I would expect we'll get the official version some time in the next month, though they may make us wait a little longer if they have any issues. I would expect a stable working build from our awesome devs a bit sooner, as they'll be stripping out most of the bloatware, that tends to delay development. No way to put a timeline on that, as the devs have other lives and real jobs, haha, and we don't know how difficult the remaining bugs are to overcome.
Just try the stable Froyo roms out now and see which you like best and stick with that until you hear something more. Check here as often as you like, as we'll most likely hear about a stable release (from the devs or official) before anywhere else (cept maybe rootzwiki...).
Or just flash the leak and deal with the issues if you're feeling adventurous and don't need a reliable phone for the next few days.
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oops...this is what I was referring to...but clearly I was way late, lol
ok... looks like the interest in the TB is waning. new phone options are coming available. posts and threads are slowing in this forum and others. development is slowing (Th3ory hasnt put out a new rom in like 1 1/2 weeks now ).
is it time to find one ROM for a daily and settle in? at some point will it make sense to convert the TB back to stock and run with verizon and its updates?
i probably will keep my TB for another year. any thoughts?
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mark
markkal123 said:
ok... looks like the interest in the TB is waning. new phone options are coming available. posts and threads are slowing in this forum and others. development is slowing (Th3ory hasnt put out a new rom in like 1 1/2 weeks now ).
is it time to find one ROM for a daily and settle in? at some point will it make sense to convert the TB back to stock and run with verizon and its updates?
i probably will keep my TB for another year. any thoughts?
thanks
mark
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God... talk about an industrial-strength stupid thread.
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God... talk about an industrial-strength stupid thread.
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LMAO ...
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markkal123 said:
ok... looks like the interest in the TB is waning. new phone options are coming available. posts and threads are slowing in this forum and others. development is slowing (Th3ory hasnt put out a new rom in like 1 1/2 weeks now ).
is it time to find one ROM for a daily and settle in? at some point will it make sense to convert the TB back to stock and run with verizon and its updates?
i probably will keep my TB for another year. any thoughts?
thanks
mark
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Yes interest in the TB is slowing and therefore so is development.
Yes newer phones are coming out
Switching to verizon and their updates is a turd choice though unless they come out with something utterly amazing and 0 DEV's here adopt it. Will never happen though unless the entire community is dead.
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Yes interest in the TB is slowing and therefore so is development.
Yes newer phones are coming out
Switching to verizon and their updates is a turd choice though unless they come out with something utterly amazing and 0 DEV's here adopt it. Will never happen though unless the entire community is dead.
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thanks, never meant to start an industrial-strength stupid thread. guess i was just wondering how long developers would be around pumping out new material, and whether or not people more experienced than me wouild be around for my gallacically stupid questions and such.
thanks for your answers
mark
We are getting a great dev coming from the og dinc forum. I say stick around for a few more weeks.
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Sorry man, but I read that OP and thought "What is this guy thinking?!?!?" Go back to stock and take whatever Verizon dishes out? I don't grasp the mental process that would conclude that as an option. I don't think interest is waning. I'll check that dipstick after Verizon sells it for free, or close to it, which is usually when sales get real good. Th3ory isn't exactly a benchmark of ROM development either. In fact, cranking out ROMs at a rate of any more than once every month is kinda unusual. BAMF went nearly 2 months without so much as a revision. Chingy usually goes at least a month. I don't understand what the deal is with Synergy and their goofy nightlies... how much can you tweak something before it's junk? I point to Ziggy's kernels as having exceeded that limit.
I came from the dInc. When I left that device as a primary device I stopped paying much attention to the ROMs for it. Now when I go and look around over there, there's heaps of devs I never heard of (a few with egos WAY too big for their sig), cranking out ROMs of all sorts. I know they hate to admit it over there, but the dInc is DEAD. If you want to see a device that seems dry on interest, visit the dInc2 forums, or some of the Motorola device forums. Or a LOT of forums, really. I don't know where you think devs are going since there isn't actually a better device worth upgrading to on Verizon. And don't say the Bionic; that thing was obsolete almost the day it launched, and the launch of the Inc HD WILL kill it. If you don't think a lot of the dev from that device will trickle down here, may I point you to all the stuff from the EVO 3D that's already made it's way here.
@ loonatik78...
yeah i guess after re-reading my OP it's kind of hard to take seriously. the TB is my first smart phone. never even knew there were forums like this that supported the phone, nor had i even a clue that these things could be rooted and modifed in such a way. certainly glad i googled my way XDA.
support has been wonderful here, and frankly find your posts well worth reading. thanks.
mark
as for going back to stock - well not a chance.
Even if it's the end of the line for sense updates (as far as from verizon), there will be updates to AOSP ROMs like CM7 and OMFGB long after as many phones have.
Switch to a new ROM? For example, Synergy has many updates a week currently and shows no sign of a stopping point in the future. Not to mention the ROM is completly badass and runs smooth like buttah
When was the Tbolt released, Jan or Feb of this year ? Interest will wane around Spring '13... A lot more people keep their phones for the two years or so that VZW "rewards" than you think. It's been what, six months ? The HTC Eris forum is still going strong, just as an example!
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Even if it's the end of the line for sense updates (as far as from verizon), there will be updates to AOSP ROMs like CM7 and OMFGB long after as many phones have.
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If only aosp roms had working nfl app and gps for me. Even with fixes, most apps that use gps either put me across the world, or just error out.
Guess if dev stalls, I might just have to learn to build roms myself.
nrfitchett4 said:
If only aosp roms had working nfl app and gps for me. Even with fixes, most apps that use gps either put me across the world, or just error out.
Guess if dev stalls, I might just have to learn to build roms myself.
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First off GPS works fine, second yea, the NFL app is still wonky but I strongly believe there are better alternatives on the market.
Second I would say go to OMFGB, since our phone is in their tree, any updates they make go to our phone, so even when we are forgot about we will still recieve updates as long as their team is around.
Also, synergy is not a bad choice (Especially if you like daily updates), BAMF forever would be a good choice as well. It was just released and runs super smooth. Plus updates are coming every 2 or 3 days at most.
Also, (And hopefully, final) we should be getting a Sense 3.5 port soon, (Team BAMF is currently spearheading that operation).
So sorry to tell you but development is still going strong.
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First off GPS works fine, second yea, the NFL app is still wonky but I strongly believe there are better alternatives on the market.
Second I would say go to OMFGB, since our phone is in their tree, any updates they make go to our phone, so even when we are forgot about we will still recieve updates as long as their team is around.
Also, synergy is not a bad choice (Especially if you like daily updates), BAMF forever would be a good choice as well. It was just released and runs super smooth. Plus updates are coming every 2 or 3 days at most.
Also, (And hopefully, final) we should be getting a Sense 3.5 port soon, (Team BAMF is currently spearheading that operation).
So sorry to tell you but development is still going strong.
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sorry, but I'm not the only one having problems with gps on aosp ROMs. It's not just getting a working signal before flashing. Even after doing that and maps finding me ok, most apps that need gps to find you, such as search, gasbuddy, etc, end up placing me at least 2 miles away unless wifi is on.
It's ok, really don't mind sense ROMs. I freeze, uninstall a lot of sense parts and use different launchers. Playing with shell 3d right now.
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Switch to a new ROM? For example, Synergy has many updates a week currently and shows no sign of a stopping point in the future. Not to mention the ROM is completly badass and runs smooth like buttah
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+1 synergy has nightly and offical builds so flash away.
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If only aosp roms had working nfl app and gps for me. Even with fixes, most apps that use gps either put me across the world, or just error out.
Guess if dev stalls, I might just have to learn to build roms myself.
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Building has proved challenging but as far as taking a leak and debloat deoxed and add root busy box WiFi tether that is very easy. Even adding a custom kernel is very easy. Tweaking extra settings is where I am lost right now such as RAMdisk edits and other such tweaks need info.
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Grnlantern79 said:
Building has proved challenging but as far as taking a leak and debloat deoxed and add root busy box WiFi tether that is very easy. Even adding a custom kernel is very easy. Tweaking extra settings is where I am lost right now such as RAMdisk edits and other such tweaks need info.
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built them on winmo, both tp2 and hd2. Just haven't had time to read up enough on android. But if it becomes a necessity, I will find the time.
Can't believe that now the Thunderbolt AND the LG Revolution are going to have Gingerbread and we're still left in the dust. WTF Verizon!?!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...rbread-update-should-start-rolling-out-today/
So flash a custom ROM, what's the problem??
~John
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So flash a custom ROM, what's the problem??
~John
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+1
With the amount of roms that are out, no need to get your panties in a bunch over what other oems are pushing out.
Keep supporting out devs with donations and they will continue to bring forth great roms and tweaks
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Can't believe that now the Thunderbolt AND the LG Revolution are going to have Gingerbread and we're still left in the dust. WTF Verizon!?!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...rbread-update-should-start-rolling-out-today/
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Thunderbolt was released two months before the Charge, and I believe the Revolution was released around the same time as the Charge. So naturally the Thunderbolt update would be released before the Charge update. Actually the Thunderbolt already had one release that was pulled a day or two later because of problems. So based on the phone release timeline, this makes sense. We're basically next in line. We're not getting screwed or cheated. Yes, it's taken a long time, but that's big red for you.
We shouldn't have to flash a custom rom to get gingerbread. We currently have the best phone on verizon's lineup (most people can agree the bionic is garbage) and its the last phone stuck on froyo. Unacceptable.
Sleek69 said:
We shouldn't have to flash a custom rom to get gingerbread. We currently have the best phone on verizon's lineup (most people can agree the bionic is garbage) and its the last phone stuck on froyo. Unacceptable.
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I know I know, had the bionic for 3 days before taking that **** back to vw. Best phone they offer.
Not trying to put out your frustrations but look at it this way. The way that technology is, Samsung (and all other OEM manufactures) are loosing money updating their current devices.
Technology is changing so fast that most companies have almost all their devs working on future devices. In the company I work for, the most senior devs work on future projects because they are trusted with their work. While the junior devs work on or updating last years crap.
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The problem is that we should have it already. The Thunderbolt came out before the Charge so naturally it would get updated before us. But the Revolution came out after the Charge and now its getting updated. Its just frustrating that our "flagship" device is getting skipped over (for right now).
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Flashing a Rom is NOT a solution. I'm sorry but I hate when people say this. A phone as new as the charge should have official updates. This and having crappy phones or basicly the same.phone coming out 2 months later is what's killing Android.
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Flashing a Rom is NOT a solution. I'm sorry but I hate when people say this. A phone as new as the charge should have official updates. This and having crappy phones or basicly the same.phone coming out 2 months later is what's killing Android.
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+1,000,000
Don't get me wrong I want GB as well, but what functionality and features are all of you missing by not having GB? I am assuming we are only talking OTA here. Also LG will be quicker to release because they have a lot less phones to support...
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Don't get me wrong I want GB as well, but what functionality and features are all of you missing by not having GB? I am assuming we are only talking OTA here. Also LG will be quicker to release because they have a lot less phones to support...
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It's not about features, it's about simply getting the updates that we should be getting while phones like the Revolution and even way older phones are getting the GB update. For all we know, the OTA could be better than the ROMs (complete sarcasm here). Still, it's just frustrating to not be "officially" updated.
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It's not about features, it's about simply getting the updates that we should be getting while phones like the Revolution and even way older phones are getting the GB update. For all we know, the OTA could be better than the ROMs (complete sarcasm here). Still, it's just frustrating to not be "officially" updated.
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So it's simply the version number it displays? Otherwise you would not really know since there is no features you are specifically needing or just wanting but lacking?
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So it's simply the version number it displays? Otherwise you would not really know since there is no features you are specifically needing or just wanting but lacking?
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Nevermind, you obviously have no idea what I'm saying.
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Nevermind, you obviously have no idea what I'm saying.
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Heh, the level of complacency among some Android users is staggering isn't it? Only on Android can you buy a "flagship" handset that not only ships with an outdated OS (froyo), but won't be eligible for an official update announced within ~six months of the device's release (ICS).
To anyone who thinks it isn't an issue: Google wouldn't be trying to fix it if it weren't a problem.
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Heh, the level of complacency among some Android users is staggering isn't it? Only on Android can you buy a "flagship" handset that not only ships with an outdated OS (froyo), but won't be eligible for an official update announced within ~six months of the device's release (ICS).
To anyone who thinks it isn't an issue: Google wouldn't be trying to fix it if it weren't a problem.
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And, Google is trying to fix it, but when any other new business management steps in to fix a problem. They focus all their resource's into preventative measures for future products. It take a major crisis for them to reach back to a product already behind the curve, and spend any real resources.
I am also disappointed that they are not paying attention to the first lte phone to keep debugging the new network. I think that big red's to blame, for their are many, with bad data problems.
I also think that we should have had another OTA update, but most app's functionality has been ported thru to 2.2 SO, I think an official udate to GB is going to be a long time coming.
ICS! That a long wait for a train ain't comin'!
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since you're a flasher as well, you should be the one really clamoring for it so we get some source code action for our few remaining devs.
BleedsOrangeandBlue said:
since you're a flasher as well, you should be the one really clamoring for it so we get some source code action for our few remaining devs.
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if the galaxy nexus comes out before the charge gets a gingerbread release, I don't think devs are going to invest much effort into the charge and will be busy working on the nexus!
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why do we need an OTA GB? Because ICS.
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since you're a flasher as well, you should be the one really clamoring for it so we get some source code action for our few remaining devs.
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Oh I can't wait until it does drop. The kernels that will come available will blown away what we have now even though they are no slouch either. However I do not feel entitled to an upgrade either. Back when I had dumb phones I never EXPECTED more than what the phone came with. I do see that the ecosystem around smartphones is a different animal but also am a developer for a fortune 200 financial services company. Based on my experience in the IT industry and dealing with business partners and their reasoning behind funding this and not funding that, and seeing actual numbers I can totally see the justification behind updates for already released phones not being a priority, even if I don't like it, it's the reality of the situation.
official GB probably comes in 2 months, it goes according to verizon's speed on releasing GB.
This is my experience of the Droid 2 not getting GB until August this year.