Can't believe that now the Thunderbolt AND the LG Revolution are going to have Gingerbread and we're still left in the dust. WTF Verizon!?!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...rbread-update-should-start-rolling-out-today/
So flash a custom ROM, what's the problem??
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So flash a custom ROM, what's the problem??
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+1
With the amount of roms that are out, no need to get your panties in a bunch over what other oems are pushing out.
Keep supporting out devs with donations and they will continue to bring forth great roms and tweaks
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Can't believe that now the Thunderbolt AND the LG Revolution are going to have Gingerbread and we're still left in the dust. WTF Verizon!?!
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/1...rbread-update-should-start-rolling-out-today/
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Thunderbolt was released two months before the Charge, and I believe the Revolution was released around the same time as the Charge. So naturally the Thunderbolt update would be released before the Charge update. Actually the Thunderbolt already had one release that was pulled a day or two later because of problems. So based on the phone release timeline, this makes sense. We're basically next in line. We're not getting screwed or cheated. Yes, it's taken a long time, but that's big red for you.
We shouldn't have to flash a custom rom to get gingerbread. We currently have the best phone on verizon's lineup (most people can agree the bionic is garbage) and its the last phone stuck on froyo. Unacceptable.
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We shouldn't have to flash a custom rom to get gingerbread. We currently have the best phone on verizon's lineup (most people can agree the bionic is garbage) and its the last phone stuck on froyo. Unacceptable.
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I know I know, had the bionic for 3 days before taking that **** back to vw. Best phone they offer.
Not trying to put out your frustrations but look at it this way. The way that technology is, Samsung (and all other OEM manufactures) are loosing money updating their current devices.
Technology is changing so fast that most companies have almost all their devs working on future devices. In the company I work for, the most senior devs work on future projects because they are trusted with their work. While the junior devs work on or updating last years crap.
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The problem is that we should have it already. The Thunderbolt came out before the Charge so naturally it would get updated before us. But the Revolution came out after the Charge and now its getting updated. Its just frustrating that our "flagship" device is getting skipped over (for right now).
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Flashing a Rom is NOT a solution. I'm sorry but I hate when people say this. A phone as new as the charge should have official updates. This and having crappy phones or basicly the same.phone coming out 2 months later is what's killing Android.
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Flashing a Rom is NOT a solution. I'm sorry but I hate when people say this. A phone as new as the charge should have official updates. This and having crappy phones or basicly the same.phone coming out 2 months later is what's killing Android.
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Don't get me wrong I want GB as well, but what functionality and features are all of you missing by not having GB? I am assuming we are only talking OTA here. Also LG will be quicker to release because they have a lot less phones to support...
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Don't get me wrong I want GB as well, but what functionality and features are all of you missing by not having GB? I am assuming we are only talking OTA here. Also LG will be quicker to release because they have a lot less phones to support...
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It's not about features, it's about simply getting the updates that we should be getting while phones like the Revolution and even way older phones are getting the GB update. For all we know, the OTA could be better than the ROMs (complete sarcasm here). Still, it's just frustrating to not be "officially" updated.
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It's not about features, it's about simply getting the updates that we should be getting while phones like the Revolution and even way older phones are getting the GB update. For all we know, the OTA could be better than the ROMs (complete sarcasm here). Still, it's just frustrating to not be "officially" updated.
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So it's simply the version number it displays? Otherwise you would not really know since there is no features you are specifically needing or just wanting but lacking?
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So it's simply the version number it displays? Otherwise you would not really know since there is no features you are specifically needing or just wanting but lacking?
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Nevermind, you obviously have no idea what I'm saying.
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Nevermind, you obviously have no idea what I'm saying.
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Heh, the level of complacency among some Android users is staggering isn't it? Only on Android can you buy a "flagship" handset that not only ships with an outdated OS (froyo), but won't be eligible for an official update announced within ~six months of the device's release (ICS).
To anyone who thinks it isn't an issue: Google wouldn't be trying to fix it if it weren't a problem.
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Heh, the level of complacency among some Android users is staggering isn't it? Only on Android can you buy a "flagship" handset that not only ships with an outdated OS (froyo), but won't be eligible for an official update announced within ~six months of the device's release (ICS).
To anyone who thinks it isn't an issue: Google wouldn't be trying to fix it if it weren't a problem.
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And, Google is trying to fix it, but when any other new business management steps in to fix a problem. They focus all their resource's into preventative measures for future products. It take a major crisis for them to reach back to a product already behind the curve, and spend any real resources.
I am also disappointed that they are not paying attention to the first lte phone to keep debugging the new network. I think that big red's to blame, for their are many, with bad data problems.
I also think that we should have had another OTA update, but most app's functionality has been ported thru to 2.2 SO, I think an official udate to GB is going to be a long time coming.
ICS! That a long wait for a train ain't comin'!
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So it's simply the version number it displays? Otherwise you would not really know since there is no features you are specifically needing or just wanting but lacking?
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since you're a flasher as well, you should be the one really clamoring for it so we get some source code action for our few remaining devs.
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since you're a flasher as well, you should be the one really clamoring for it so we get some source code action for our few remaining devs.
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if the galaxy nexus comes out before the charge gets a gingerbread release, I don't think devs are going to invest much effort into the charge and will be busy working on the nexus!
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why do we need an OTA GB? Because ICS.
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since you're a flasher as well, you should be the one really clamoring for it so we get some source code action for our few remaining devs.
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Oh I can't wait until it does drop. The kernels that will come available will blown away what we have now even though they are no slouch either. However I do not feel entitled to an upgrade either. Back when I had dumb phones I never EXPECTED more than what the phone came with. I do see that the ecosystem around smartphones is a different animal but also am a developer for a fortune 200 financial services company. Based on my experience in the IT industry and dealing with business partners and their reasoning behind funding this and not funding that, and seeing actual numbers I can totally see the justification behind updates for already released phones not being a priority, even if I don't like it, it's the reality of the situation.
official GB probably comes in 2 months, it goes according to verizon's speed on releasing GB.
This is my experience of the Droid 2 not getting GB until August this year.
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Samsung posted this updated installation guide on their website this morning. IMHO if it's going to happen in December it's going to be this week. http://www.samsung.com/us/support/owners/product/SGH-I897
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...2349485/ATT_I897_Captivate_Kiesmini_Guide.pdf
I think they just added the instructions for recovery mode. Seeing as how "Some of" the Canadian Vibrants are reporting corrupt storage issues after trying to upgrade via kies mini.
With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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I think they just added the instructions for recovery mode. Seeing as how "Some of" the Canadian Vibrants are reporting corrupt storage issues after trying to upgrade via kies mini.
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Good point, but isn't that the U.S. site?
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With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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With all of the gingerbread action in the past week, I don't know why anyone would even bat an eye at an official froyo release. If you aren't running a 2.2 rom based on the leaked versions yet, you are severely limiting the speed and "snappiness" of your device. In short, while you guys wait for Sammy to roll out their "official" 2.2 update, we'll be running GB.
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JH7 w/ Voodoo is faster than any ROM based on a leaked Froyo build (from my experiences). I haven't tried the i9000 based ROMs however.
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There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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I too use my phone for work. And I also cannot have any "hiccups". I can be without it long enough to flash a ROM and then re-setup the stuff I need. That process takes less than 30 minutes nowadays.
If you stick to a true Cappy ROM (not an i9000-based one), then you won't experience hiccups...at least I don't. Battery life is a slight issue, but really, when are completely without the means to charge up some?
I've flashed maybe half a dozen times since I can't afford a bricked phone. I'm picky about flashing. But I'm also very picky about having a phone that is quite impressive hardware-wise, but almost completely crippled by the lackluster software. While Froyo isn't the most awesome thing ever, it is a major improvement over Eclair.
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I too use my phone for work. And I also cannot have any "hiccups". I can be without it long enough to flash a ROM and then re-setup the stuff I need. That process takes less than 30 minutes nowadays.
If you stick to a true Cappy ROM (not an i9000-based one), then you won't experience hiccups...at least I don't. Battery life is a slight issue, but really, when are completely without the means to charge up some?
I've flashed maybe half a dozen times since I can't afford a bricked phone. I'm picky about flashing. But I'm also very picky about having a phone that is quite impressive hardware-wise, but almost completely crippled by the lackluster software. While Froyo isn't the most awesome thing ever, it is a major improvement over Eclair.
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I used to flash quite often.. But it got to be a hassle restoring game saves... Contacts (then re-linking then to my Facebook contacts)... yada yada... It takes up more tme than one would think.
And like its been said. A stable release from Samsung means a stable release for the devs.
Though Im not gonna think twice about flashing 2.3... Can't wait for a working version.
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Good point, but isn't that the U.S. site?
There are plenty of reasons as discussed in these forums. For me I heavily use my phone for business and cannot afford any "hiccups".
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thats understandable but i would say in my experience there are less hiccups with most custom 2.2 roms than there are with either stock 2.1 rom.
Not to mention on the business front Exchange is much more stable and functional for me on the 2.2 roms vs. 2.1 stock.
Axura, Assonance, Chronos all very stable.
I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
more speculation here, but I suspect there has been some back and forth between samsung and att. Like att put it through their testing procees. (we know it is pretty extensive) and asked for a change or two. 'caus I'm pretty convinced that samsung just checks that the phone powers up and gets signal with no care as to the quality of signals it is receiving... I am certainly intrigued to see what they come out with after "working" on it for so long.
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I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
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The carriers don't care that much... OS version as a selling point matters ZERO to most users unless it brings some major feature. Most feature improvements are minor and don't affect most users - they are not hackers or flashers. For every one person visiting phone Forums, there are 10 others that own the phone and just use it.
2.2 has been out for Galaxy S and Armani - so it is really done for the hardware - we haven't seen any Froyo leaks in a while either - the hold up is the carriers - Samsung was probably late getting it to them, and now they have to give it their blessing.
The Vibrant Froyo was released recently but pulled as it corrupted internal storage. So T-Mo was first, and i guess AT&T will be second.
I also think this updated doc is relevant to the Froyo release - we didn't see this doc with the previous Kies Mini update and there was no Emergency recovery option - they are definitely getting ready to push something new.
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I thought the hold up was the carriers on the update. But I think Samsung has been really slow in the release of 2.2. Samsung not AT&T has been the problem all along. Don't you think one of the carriers would have tried to be the first to have their device on 2.2 to sale through the holidays.
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No...certainly not AT&T...they always push the I-phone harder than their Android phones...Can't say for any others selling Galaxy phones though..
Seriously...I use my phone for my work and business as well,and there are quite a few stable 2.2 roms out to use.Hiccups...are always possible...but most times..it's because of a bad install that causes more headaches than anything else..or something left over on the system too. No way in hell would I wait on either Samsung or AT&T for another bloat filled update.Not to mention...all of the bricked phones that happened with Kies last time around...Your much safer getting your upgrade longing filled here..than any OTA update....at least if you get it from here you will get help fixing it...Good luck doing that with AT&T or Samsung...you'll be out a phone for a few days or weeks..
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alphadog00 said:
The carriers don't care that much... OS version as a selling point matters ZERO to most users unless it brings some major feature. Most feature improvements are minor and don't affect most users - they are not hackers or flashers. For every one person visiting phone Forums, there are 10 others that own the phone and just use it.
2.2 has been out for Galaxy S and Armani - so it is really done for the hardware - we haven't seen any Froyo leaks in a while either - the hold up is the carriers - Samsung was probably late getting it to them, and now they have to give it their blessing.
The Vibrant Froyo was released recently but pulled as it corrupted internal storage. So T-Mo was first, and i guess AT&T will be second.
I also think this updated doc is relevant to the Froyo release - we didn't see this doc with the previous Kies Mini update and there was no Emergency recovery option - they are definitely getting ready to push something new.
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Froyo was not released then pulled for the T-Mobile Vibrant. It was released and pulled for the Bell (Canada) Vibrant.
Thought that Sprint's Epic has Froyo released? Or is that just another leak too? Forgot to ask my brother last night (he has the Epic)
None of the US carriers has Froyo update for Galaxy S yet. That tells me it is Samsung that is dragging the feet.
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None of the US carriers has Froyo update for Galaxy S yet. That tells me it is Samsung that is dragging the feet.
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Even if samsung pushed the update to the carriers 2 weeks ago they still have to test it.
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Even if samsung pushed the update to the carriers 2 weeks ago they still have to test it.
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Samsung knows exactly how long carriers need to validate and test the firmware. If they intent to release the Froyo on schedule, they should have pushed the update earlier. After all, carriers test updates from all manufacturers like Motorola and HTC, not just Samsung. If Motorola and HTC can release Froyo, and subsequent patches, in time for their phones, there is no reason Samsung can't if it is capable of.
This just tells you how somethings never change when it comes to firmware update from Samsung.
Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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Because the tab was released with 2.2. It never had to get updated.
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Then why does AT&T have the Samsung Galaxy Tab available with Android 2.2?
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I think you may have answered your own question. It's likely that Samsung put their development resources in the Galaxy Tab and let the phones wait. They already have our money.
So uhh, i dont know if anyone has seen this.. but here you go
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-imminent-20110225/
It looks like a legit release for 2.3 for Galaxy S. If thats the case, how hard would it be to port it from that to the captivate?
and a march release
Oh and btw... dont flame me if its wrong or anything.. im just a guy posting something he found... which may help out the community -.-
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So uhh, i dont know if anyone has seen this.. but here you go
http://androidcommunity.com/galaxy-s-android-2-3-gingerbread-update-imminent-20110225/
It looks like a legit release for 2.3 for Galaxy S. If thats the case, how hard would it be to port it from that to the captivate?
and a march release
Oh and btw... dont flame me if its wrong or anything.. im just a guy posting something he found... which may help out the community -.-
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I think this has been posted a couple of times (can't remember, but I know I've seen it around the web a couple of times). Either way, right now it's a "friend of a friend said this" type thing. Until there is some proof myself and many others will remain skeptical.
Another issue is that the Galaxy S phones are much more popular in other parts of the world. With Samsung trying to charge all the carriers upgrade fees like they did with 2.2, causing a lot of the delays, the carriers may not be interested in upgrading the phone to 2.3 even if Samsung has it ready. Especially since we're going to see the SGS 2 and multiple other newer and better phones out by then. The Captivate and other SGS phones will be low end phones by then, and the carriers probably won't want to pay Samsung for updates to an old phone.
oh man! so theres the possibility of never seeing a legit 2.3? :S i guess il have to live with CM7.
ANY custom rom will be better than the rom its based off of.
WHO CAN?
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AJerman said:
Another issue is that the Galaxy S phones are much more popular in other parts of the world. With Samsung trying to charge all the carriers upgrade fees like they did with 2.2, causing a lot of the delays, the carriers may not be interested in upgrading the phone to 2.3 even if Samsung has it ready. Especially since we're going to see the SGS 2 and multiple other newer and better phones out by then. The Captivate and other SGS phones will be low end phones by then, and the carriers probably won't want to pay Samsung for updates to an old phone.
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This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
Miami_Son said:
This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
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Was it? I hadn't heard that, but I didn't pay that much attention to the AT&T release of 2.2 since I've been running 2.2 for months.
Either way, even if it doesn't come to a money issue, it's still going to come down to the same issue. The SGS 2 will have replaced the SGS by the time Samsung would have Gingerbread ready, and I wouldn't doubt at all if this phone never saw another update. It was hard enough to get 2.2 out of Samsung when this phone was their flagship, let along getting them to push one more update when it's replacement is already ready.
Edit: Just read an article about that, you're right. I hadn't seen Samsung's reply to that rumor. I guess that just makes Samsung lazy and not lazy and greedy, haha.
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This "issue" was debunked a long time ago.
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It was debunked by Samsung denying it, which means it wasnt really debunked.
I wouldn't expect them to be public about such things....you can have a "price to prioritize" or something which is essentially the same thing but allows you to say you aren't charging for the upgrade.
I'm not saying I know what's going on, I'm just saying I don't trust Samsung at their word.
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I guess that just makes Samsung lazy and not lazy and greedy, haha.[/i]
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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It was debunked by Samsung denying it, which means it wasnt really debunked.
I wouldn't expect them to be public about such things....you can have a "price to prioritize" or something which is essentially the same thing but allows you to say you aren't charging for the upgrade.
I'm not saying I know what's going on, I'm just saying I don't trust Samsung at their word.
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Pretty sure there would be some sort of outcry from carriers if Samsung was lying. There would probably be more legal ramifications if Samsung lied about not charging for updates rather than some bad publicity about charging for the updates.
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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Samsung did its part in holding up the update by not wanting to pay the fee the service providers were charging. Same goes with all carriers that were way behind on the 2.2 update.
I'll be skipping it. I had problems with the 2.2 update and just flashed my first ROM. So much faster and the battery lasts a ton longer
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ANY custom rom will be better than the rom its based off of.
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You're stating the obvious. Why would anyone modify a ROM to make to inferior to the original? It would be nice if there were an original 2.3 to base something on.
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You're stating the obvious. Why would anyone modify a ROM to make to inferior to the original? It would be nice if there were an original 2.3 to base something on.
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he means custom source-built rom.
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he means custom source-built rom.
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No what he is doing is his usual routine of taking a dump on any post where someone mentions being interested in Samsung firmware releases, because he thinks what is already out via third-parties is all anyone with a brain should want. And yet the AT&T Froyo release resulted in, in my opinion, the best ROM yet from DesignGears.
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No what he is doing is his usual routine of taking a dump on any post where someone mentions being interested in Samsung firmware releases, because he thinks what is already out via third-parties is all anyone with a brain should want. And yet the AT&T Froyo release resulted in, in my opinion, the best ROM yet from DesignGears.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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I was running the official Rogers 2.2. and it was better than the official 2.1 that I played around with for a few days first to compare. However, putting Firefly 2.3 (and Andromeda 1.2 before that) I can certainly confirm that the custom rom route is definitely the way to go. MUCH faster (lagfix probably has huge impact on this) far more functional (rooted) better battery consumption (custom kernels) and IMO far better support. I can tell you I fully expect that XDA and the like would provide far superior peer based support than you'd get from your provider. Of course chances are if you weren't putting custom stuff on your phone you'd be far less likely to need it, but the collective knowledge here for general support of devices is far more impressive than some tech support drone that you'd speak to if you called in to you provider.
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Why do you assume it was samsung that held back the update? It was more than likely ATT, being that other providers had already released the update.
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Let's be honest, this phone could have come with 2.2 on it already when it shipped. Samsung took quite a while to get 2.2 ready even for the I9000s. There are always going to be carriers delays after it's ready, but Samsung took their time as well.
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Let's be honest, this phone could have come with 2.2 on it already when it shipped. Samsung took quite a while to get 2.2 ready even for the I9000s. There are always going to be carriers delays after it's ready, but Samsung took their time as well.
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Froyo was announced less than 2 months before this phone shipped. The source wasn't available until less than a month before. I see no problem with shipping with 2.1 under these circumstances.
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you obviously haven't tried any 2.2.1 i9000 roms then... Because they blow the doors off any official froyo rom from samsuck. I tried cog 4 and torch and it lagged beyond belief, no offense to dg, but its samsucks fault.
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I've used 2.2.1 ROMs and they are great. If I recall Serendipity is one and it was my favorite prior to Andromeda (which is 2.2 i9010 based and very fast). Cog 4.1 is the first of DGs ROM I've used for more than a day in months; I haven't been a huge fan. As soon as i9000 kernels became mostly trouble free I moved on. I'm not saying the others were bad and I'm not saying 4.1 is better than brand x, I just like it better than previous DG ROMs I tried.
As for your lag problems with Cog 4.1, I don't doubt you, I just don't have it, but I'm using the Paragon kernel which may account for our different experiences.
Should we trust ?
its your,... your decision....
http://www.tmonews.com/2011/07/lg-forums-says-gingerbread-should-be-less-than-a-month-out/
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What I know is that LG has their nose to the grindstone trying to get this update out as soon as possible and they won't quit until they are finished and TMO accepts it and sends it out to everyone. To give you an idea of the pace of development happening I received v20t about 2.5 weeks ago and the current version being tested is v21b. The version that was leaked back during the G2x launch was v20c. That's a ton of revisions in a few weeks time!
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..I received v20t about 2.5 weeks ago and the current version being tested is v21b. The version that was leaked back during the G2x launch was v20c. That's a ton of revisions in a few weeks time!
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Assuming LG uses alphabetical designation consecutively, that means there have been 25 revisions since launch, and 8 in the past 2.5 weeks. And they still can't come up with an update they feel is worth releasing.
Seems time to give up on this phone, call it bad hardware or whatever, and move on.
Oh, and I don't want to hear that the update works great, they just want to make it even better. If they could get it stable at all, I have to believe they would be falling all over themselves to get it out to the public, instead of continuing to take this kind of a beating in company image.
I personally think they are fixing the hardware of the phone because it can't be fixed with software updates. That would expalin the re-launch comment. Brace yourselves for the T-Mobile G2x 2.0 in the coming weeks.
dont hype yourself up if you hear something
if it comes out it comes out!
no need to get your hopes up then killed lol enjoy the roms
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dont hype yourself up if you hear something
if it comes out it comes out!
no need to get your hopes up then killed lol enjoy the roms
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----------------it's NEWS
I have a feeling if anything was remotely close to being released, there would be another leaked rom and there hasn't been. So, yeah.
The forum mod post is a bit old- this is tmonews response to a slow news day.
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a month out from when. that's how the trick the stupid consumers such a us. saying it will be a month out. you didnt see us crossing our fingers behind our backs meaning a month out from the summer of 2012.
Well, I've been patient since launch day... and I am now a member of the X-G2X club. Good luck to the rest of ya'll waiting!
Why do you guys still care about this update? Being on XDA, most of you probably rooted, so why not install CM7 while you're at it? It's very stable and fixes a lot of issues with the device.
Because if we have the official update, the developers here will probably have access to hardware drivers that function in gingerbread, which MIGHT allow us to get functionality of stereo bluetooth and high def video mirroring through hdmi, among other things.
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Because if we have the official update, the developers here will probably have access to hardware drivers that function in gingerbread, which MIGHT allow us to get functionality of stereo bluetooth and high def video mirroring through hdmi, among other things.
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Because none of those roms is 100% functional and still exhibit the same bugs as the stock rom. There is no GB kernel.
gubidi said:
Why do you guys still care about this update? Being on XDA, most of you probably rooted, so why not install CM7 while you're at it? It's very stable and fixes a lot of issues with the device.
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children...
u think CM7 is smooth ?? is it your first android man?
u will see performance from CM7 after 3 weeks when u will get official update....
Now it's just FAKE 2.3.4....why? go ask Morfic or Faux123, i didn't have a time
Yea cm7 is great and all but its truly not there fully...a2dp gps and sdcard amongst the most obvious issues.
Really the value of a STABLE gb rom is that a lot of the drivers and system stuff can be moved to a modded ROM. It will be great for all the ROMs when LG gets this out!
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Yea cm7 is great and all but its truly not there fully...a2dp gps and sdcard amongst the most obvious issues.
Really the value of a STABLE gb rom is that a lot of the drivers and system stuff can be moved to a modded ROM. It will be great for all the ROMs when LG gets this out!
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finally first one !!!!!!!!!!!!! +1
www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/t-mobile-discontinuing-g2x
Note the mods reply and the number of builds/revisions they are going through. There is work going on for the update, and they also have to update the 2x at the same time, while launching the 3d and updating the G slate. Stock rom has worked well and GB will be welcome with its better battery mngmnt
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Where can I get the 2.3 update for the g2x? It has to be somewhere on this site. Please email me if you know where to find it or if you have it! [email protected] thx
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SmartPhoneGeek:
..I received v20t about 2.5 weeks ago and the current version being tested is v21b. The version that was leaked back during the G2x launch was v20c. That's a ton of revisions in a few weeks time!
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Assuming LG uses alphabetical designation consecutively, that means there have been 25 revisions since launch, and 8 in the past 2.5 weeks. And they still can't come up with an update they feel is worth releasing.
Seems time to give up on this phone, call it bad hardware or whatever, and move on.
Oh, and I don't want to hear that the update works great, they just want to make it even better. If they could get it stable at all, I have to believe they would be falling all over themselves to get it out to the public, instead of continuing to take this kind of a beating in company image.
I personally think they are fixing the hardware of the phone because it can't be fixed with software updates. That would expalin the re-launch comment. Brace yourselves for the T-Mobile G2x 2.0 in the coming weeks.
What about the HTC sensation? Good phone or no cuz of sense?
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What about the HTC sensation? Good phone or no cuz of sense?
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sorry man wrong Thread
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I don't know about their revision naming scheme, i.e. what constitutes an increase in revision number. And I don't think you do.
Usually more revision means more bugs fixed and better QA testing.
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Assuming LG uses alphabetical designation consecutively, that means there have been 25 revisions since launch, and 8 in the past 2.5 weeks. And they still can't come up with an update they feel is worth releasing.
Seems time to give up on this phone, call it bad hardware or whatever, and move on.
Oh, and I don't want to hear that the update works great, they just want to make it even better. If they could get it stable at all, I have to believe they would be falling all over themselves to get it out to the public, instead of continuing to take this kind of a beating in company image.
I personally think they are fixing the hardware of the phone because it can't be fixed with software updates. That would expalin the re-launch comment. Brace yourselves for the T-Mobile G2x 2.0 in the coming weeks.
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So what happens to the people, that have the first phones. We're stuck with a terd in our hands and we have to like it???
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So its going to be released pretty soon.. what are the odds of the Captivate getting some love?
http://techcrunch.com/2011/10/19/in...axy-nexus-and-ice-cream-sandwich-android-4-0/
Unfortunately, I'm going to have to go with 'Nil.'
The chances are non existent. It just makes business sense for for these updates to take forever. I do understand there are some hardware issues with the updates but in the end the average consumer is going to purchase a new phone or use their upgrade in order to get the latest os. If they keep updating old phones to the newest stuff people would hold onto their phone longer. I mean, ths is the first phone ive ever owned that I could flash custom roms onto. Before this I was locked into the operating system and whatever user interface was on the phone when I purchased it. If I hadnt found this forum or custom roms I would be frustrated by the lack of gingerbread and probably would have used my upgrade by now.
No hope. Most of the features aside from the UI wont work anyways due to not having the hardware (NFC) or lack of CPU and RAM (Camera features).
Just get a nice theme
they have it up and running on fascinates, as of 5AM this morning
We didnt even get official GB and we want ICS.....lol so greedy we people are...
Hell yeah Well rogers got the official gb , but att, com'on, forget about it.
First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
Be patient. It'll be ported eventually.
I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
Well, i'd be surprised to see ICS for our captivate. Even if cyanogen mod is getting ICS, i probably won't jump because of the superior call quality and slightly (if not better) battery life on captivate ROMs.
I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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First, do a little more searching. There is alreadya thread open for this topic.
That said, we will never see an official update. Our only hope of seeing it is from a port, courtesy of a device that does get it, or wait on CyagenMod to start on CM9.
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Um I did? - and even the XDA board didn't give me the topic yet so meh.
And someone has this starting to run on the Fascinate?? The Captivate is THE phone that seems to get the most love besides the Vibrant for this range of devices.
And I don't care how we get it... as long as someone is able to wedge it into the phone.
You know, it's open source.
Any of you asking for it can take a crack at it
I am seriously inexperienced, but this might be a good start to a programming career..
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I thought there was some sort of court ruling forcing google to push the same version of android to all phones that were capable. I could be talking out of my ass though.
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Nope, not even in the ballpark. Google has no legal obligation to any phone. What you are thinking of is how Google made the main phone produces agree to try harder to keep the phones up to date (up to one and a half years past release aka 18months). But that did not extend to the carriers...
Else they have to stop using the "Android" name and Google's apps
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I find it amazing that somone already has it somewhat running on their fascinate. I guess all the great Cappy dev's have jumped ship
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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That's a bit harsh don't you think? The Cappy dev's are some of the best ROM developers for that era of android phones.
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not mention i've seen them pretty active in the galaxy nexus forums... might be because they have different priorities right now? once they figure out the newest phone they'll be able to come back and help us?
If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
Saving my money for a Galaxy Nexus
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If you actually go poke around the Fascinate forum there's one guy who claims he has it running but hasn't offered any sort of proof. I think he's just looking for attention, but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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If he does have it running, it's the SDK release and it will be slow as molasses.
Noticed today that the Droid Charge is now FREE with 2 year contract. Think we're about to be EOLed?
Phone has almost been out a year, plus it won't be exclusive when US Cellular starts selling the Charge in April as the Samaung Aviator.
Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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Erm...in the email sent to me by Verizon,they said the Droid Charge is free until March 31,2012. It's a promotion they have going on.
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Right, but why? My guess is to clear out inventory. They are no longer selling the Thunderbolt and the Revolution is free as well. With the launch of the New Droids (Fighter, Blade, Incredible 4G, etc.) coming soon, I think they're cleaning house. Once inventory is gone, I think we're EOL.
The silver lining? The Aviator doesn't even launch until next month. It will be CDMA/LTE, so it could have the same RIL. I think Samsung will have to update it to ICS, so this means there's hope that our devs can port even if Verizon refuses to release an ICS official OTA.
It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.
I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.
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It's been EOL in my mind ever since they announced that we're not getting ICS.
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They never actually announced anything, one way or the other.
Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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Yeah we had "reps" saying when we would be getting the GB update... and they were all wrong.
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Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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this statement is
facts
pure facts
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Gb update I'd believe, but ICS I don't see that happening anytime soon. If it even happens. Rumors are rumors, not facts. Until a official statement from Verizon or Samsung is released, it will still be a rumor.
Edit: On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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Don't listen to reps. Consider them to be like car salesman. They'll say what they have to in order to make the sale.
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I do not know if this was referencing my post or not, but this was after the sale and there was no previous mention of anything relating to ICS.
I do not know if what he said was fact or not, nor do I really care, but I found it odd that it was mentioned out of the blue, like it was some new info that seemed important.
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I was in a Verizon store yesterday. I picked up 2 charges and, without me even asking, the rep openly admitted that ICS is coming to the charge.
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Reps often times no less than the average user of a phone enthusiast forum, and those that do know more tend to just sit and look at news sites. They are not high enough up the food chain to get any info about updates until shortly before release at the earliest. That would go for anyone working in any store, managers included. They don't provide the information until the last minute to avoid any critical issues stopping an update.
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On a side note that doesn't mean we wont get it seeing as JT is progressing with ICS on charge. (Beta 2 is released) It just wont come from Verizon imo.
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Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?
reps dont know anything about anything. we're never getting ICS unless IMnuts, Nitro, JT or one of the other developers give us a hack. Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)
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Yeah, but the issue is that Samsung's RIL does not fall under GPL and does not need to be open sourced. So, they're not obligated to release source code and, to this day, they have refused to do so.
JT may eventually get a working RIL for AOSP/CM9 use, and that would be great... But, having said that, it still won't be an RIL optimized for the Charge to the same extent that a RIL built with absolute knowledge of Samsung source code would be (please, correct me if I'm wrong here).
I think it would be absolutely absurd for the Aviator to be US Cellular's "flagship" device (which it will be) if Samsung isn't planning to build an official version of ICS (complete with TouchWiz and their GB-esque ICS interface). If the RIL is built for CDMA/LTE, then it's possible that devs may be able to port the Aviator's stock ROM over to the Charge on Verizon and modify that base into an InfinityROM, Eclipse, or TweakAviator ROM. Not 100% sure this will work with Samsung, but I've seen it before with HTC devices--with the Eris, a lot of the ROMs were ported CDMA Hero ROMs. This would provide kernels, ROM bases, and modems all specifically designed to work in unison. In my opinion, this will result in extremely stable ICS ROMs (as compared to a reverse-engineered RIL for AOSP/CM9). No?
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If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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cnoevl21 said:
Ill prob switch over the GS3 well before that happens (not cuz of the developers, cuz of samsung and verizon, the developers all kick ass!)
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Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.
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Why go Samsung? By the time SG3 comes out, Samsung's not gonna update it to Jellybean and your gonna say "ill get the SG4"...Better off getting an HTC phone with a Samsung Screen..HTC good about releasing source and has good development. Although Samsung has thinner devices.
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...or just Moto for their superior internals
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...or just Moto for their superior internals
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...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.
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If ICS is released with the aviator, it may be possible seeing as their the same device. But that is a big if. Samsung should just release the RIL source. We already know they suck at coding. Why hide it?
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One can argue, if their code is suck, why you want it then? or if you want to ask some one for something and you called them suck, do you deserve to have it?
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...and locked bootloaders? No thanks.
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Honestly, I've had three moto phones and while not having full access to flashing kernels and not having a real recovery sucks, their hardware is insane.
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