So just like the title says, I was wondering with ICS now out is it more possible or likely that we will see a dev port a version of Jelly bean?
This type of speculation really doesn't do any good. ICS has been on devices for less than 2 weeks now. Let's just let it filter out and get widespread before we go on to the Next Big Thing. Developers will do what they do, which is develop. The best way for you to get what you want is to help them by learning how to do work on the device and software.
This community needs more giving back, and less demanding and taking.
Im looking at signing up for some C++ clases so I can start learning to start giving back
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Im looking at signing up for some C++ clases so I can start learning to start giving back
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I don't really know what that dude's deal was in the other thread. C++ is in no way needed. A firm understanding of how the components of a Linux based operating system work is far more useful. Very few, if any, "devs" in the Android community are doing real, low level, kernel development. The vast majority of work on Android is nothing more than building in modules and rearranging/writing simple scripts.
Basically, start learning why things are like they are. It is flat out amazing to me that it took literally MONTHS to figure out the DHCPCD script was just wrong in the CM9 builds. It blows my mind that this took months, and that's the only reason I am starting to get involved with this device now. I am perfectly happy with stock operations.
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Galaxy S2 might even get jelly bean. If THEY get it I would sure hope we would get it too. But either way all we need is a similar exynos device JB release, oh and source code wouldnt hurt either.
How long has it been since Austia ICS released for 7.7 and 7.0 plus? almost 2 weeks?
does it take that long to add their CSC bloat? perhaps they're going striaght to JB and just gave us the one ICS build they had to tide us over, considering they released it around the same time JB was announced.
we will see.
I think you don't need to worry about Jelly Bean right now. We can consider ourselves already very lucky there's someone working on porting CyanogenMod 9 on this fine tablet.
When CM9 is finished, their devs will start on CM10 (based on JB) right away. They stated the work for this version is not as big as with CM7 --> 9. If the same is valid for porting CM10 to a P62xx, just follow the Cyanogenmod page for updates and you'll be fine.
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Is there a 2.2 (that doesn't come from USCC) or 2.3 ROM available for the Mesmerize?
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Is there a 2.2 (that doesn't come from USCC) or 2.3 ROM available for the Mesmerize?
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Well, being that 2.2 isn't out yet for the Mesmerize from USCC, yes. Now if you are talking about something other than the intended firmware, then the simple answer is no. If you want to flash AOSP there is a few variations floating about. All of which will make some part of your phone non functional. There is a mostly non working port of MIUI that is available also. There are several options right now. None of which are really that great for someone who wants a fully functional phone at this point and most of which are for the Fascinate so I really don't recommend them even though a lot of people are able to flash them and come back. It really depends on what you are wanting. We are currently working on a couple of things, but again, they will be based on the firmware that is coming out from USCC so if you are trying to get away from that type of firmware, then you will have to wait until those projects are done and we get source code for 2.2 to get other things working.
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Well, being that 2.2 isn't out yet for the Mesmerize from USCC, yes. Now if you are talking about something other than the intended firmware, then the simple answer is no. If you want to flash AOSP there is a few variations floating about. All of which will make some part of your phone non functional. There is a mostly non working port of MIUI that is available also. There are several options right now. None of which are really that great for someone who wants a fully functional phone at this point and most of which are for the Fascinate so I really don't recommend them even though a lot of people are able to flash them and come back. It really depends on what you are wanting. We are currently working on a couple of things, but again, they will be based on the firmware that is coming out from USCC so if you are trying to get away from that type of firmware, then you will have to wait until those projects are done and we get source code for 2.2 to get other things working.
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I was hoping there was news of a experimental build of CyanogenMod for the Mesmerize or something like that, but if not, that's fine. Hurry up USCC, release 2.2!
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I was hoping there was news of a experimental build of CyanogenMod for the Mesmerize or something like that, but if not, that's fine. Hurry up USCC, release 2.2!
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There is a spot on their site for Galaxy S, but no team assigned, so no cyanogen - at least in the near future.
These things are on my list guys (= But as the semester progresses I have less and less free time. If you want to wait I will get around to it eventually. Alternatively, you can read up on Android development and start to chip in (= It would be awesome to get some others working on this stuff since it's a lot for 2 people to handle right now. Soo that's the current situation..
Work 40+ hours a week, plus 10 college credits this semester... If I had some free time I'd love to get involved in development. Maybe in the summer if there's still a need in the scene.
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These things are on my list guys (= But as the semester progresses I have less and less free time. If you want to wait I will get around to it eventually. Alternatively, you can read up on Android development and start to chip in (= It would be awesome to get some others working on this stuff since it's a lot for 2 people to handle right now. Soo that's the current situation..
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Soon as I learn more about java, I'll be pitching in for sure
Well Android is written in C and a little C++, might want to read up on that.
How the heck does an old Windows Phone 6.5 get Jelly Bean before the Thunderbolt. Somone's managed to port Jelly Bean to the HD2 and yet all indications are that it will not get ported to the Thunderbolt. I just don't get it.
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How the heck does an old Windows Phone 6.5 get Jelly Bean before the Thunderbolt. Somone's managed to port Jelly Bean to the HD2 and yet all indications are that it will not get ported to the Thunderbolt. I just don't get it.
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Because someone decided to spend the time to port it.
It shares the same hardware as other Android devices, that's how and because it's unstoppable and had/has a HUGE development platform.
DO WE REALLY NEED ANYMORE JB AND ICS THREADS????
SERIOUSLY!!!!
People need to start reading more.
In fact maybe if people spent more time reading instead of questioning,
then maybe they could contribute towards getting it working for us.
Just a thought....
Pretty tired of these threads though.
They don't help and the info as to why is already everywhere you look.
Not to mention that there is already a JB AOSP port being worked on for us.
Sit back and patiently wait, or contribute something!
You got 123 posts, member since 2009, and that is all you can come up with? Hopefully next time you read some before posting.
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It shares the same hardware as other Android devices, that's how and because it's unstoppable and had/has a HUGE development platform.
DO WE REALLY NEED ANYMORE JB AND ICS THREADS????
SERIOUSLY!!!!
People need to start reading more.
In fact maybe if people spent more time reading instead of questioning,
then maybe they could contribute towards getting it working for us.
Just a thought....
Pretty tired of these threads though.
They don't help and the info as to why is already everywhere you look.
Not to mention that there is already a JB AOSP port being worked on for us.
Sit back and patiently wait, or contribute something!
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No kidding, all the posts about ICS and JB are getting old quick.
He probably just wanted to start a thread with the title "jelly bean" because it's such a hot topic. This thread should be deleted.
agree. this thread should be deleted or at least locked. this topic has been beaten to death, repeatedly. a quick search of the thunderbolt threads would find an identical topic incorrectly posted in thunderbolt development that was, well, not well received and got locked.
* Thunderbolt 4G *
I am actually quietly developing JB for this device, but due to RIM lock it is unusable as a phone. JB works and with the HTC dev tools you can compile it with the tbolt drivers and it works like a charm, except for calling, mms, and ya know being a PHONE, heck I have gotten this to run Ubuntu natively WITHOUT android, just wait or develop one yourself, please don't come here QQing to us, we don't care. HTC are very good at releasing RIL within a two year time period of releasing their devices, but VZW are very tight nit on their LTE and don't want too much information released for other companies to make LTE devices without DNA and DNR signatures. WiFi is confirmed working so if you use google voice and groove IP go ahead and contact me I will send you a link to my rom, but I repeat ALL PHONE FEATURES EDGE, 2G, 3G, LTE MMS FM RADIO DO NOT WORK AT ALL!!!
(long time XDA lurker first time poster)
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Would it be possible to port a JB rom for the nexus s to the Samsung Infuse 4G? I'm new to all the development stuff, all though I have been flashing roms and such to many devices for a while. I understand most of the simple development stuff, but I know hardly, if anything, about porting roms to other devices. I don't think it would be possible, seeing as they are two completely different devices, but anything is possible. Just doesn't mean its very probable. So go easy on me.
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You'd be better off asking the Infuse devs, I doubt any NS dev is going to be able to do anything to help you since they don't have the device to work on. The hardware is pretty similar so it could be doable but you're definitely going about it the wrong way.
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Would it be possible to port a JB rom for the nexus s to the Samsung Infuse 4G? I'm new to all the development stuff, all though I have been flashing roms and such to many devices for a while. I understand most of the simple development stuff, but I know hardly, if anything, about porting roms to other devices. I don't think it would be possible, seeing as they are two completely different devices, but anything is possible. Just doesn't mean its very probable. So go easy on me.
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it is probably possible but you are likely to run into numerous errors, that is if you even get it to boot !
we just recently got jelly bean a few days ago and it is still improving so using that as base would likely result in a very unstable port.. but you are welcome to give it a try and see how it goes. the worst that can happen is having to go back to stock
if you happen to have a capable PC, you might want to try building your own rom from source! it should be a great learning experience and is much more likely to work compared to a port
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Would it be possible to port a JB rom for the nexus s to the Samsung Infuse 4G? I'm new to all the development stuff, all though I have been flashing roms and such to many devices for a while. I understand most of the simple development stuff, but I know hardly, if anything, about porting roms to other devices. I don't think it would be possible, seeing as they are two completely different devices, but anything is possible. Just doesn't mean its very probable. So go easy on me.
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not sure about porting but there is a working JB rom on the Dev section
galaxy s line
i believe you'd actually be closer by using the CM10 for the fascinate that just landed yesterday, but i digress. the JB CM10 in the dev section is working better than CM9 for me.
I would definitely like to learn how to build a rom from source. But isn't there a lot of coding involved in that process? If there is, I would have to learn all that as I go. And I'm also going to check the development section right now, as soon as I post this reply. Seeing as I have a Nexus S and not an Infuse(my girlfriend does), I don't check this forum that often. Thank you all for the replies.
There are a few guides around that tell you how to set up the building environment on your PC, and how to sync repos and build for your device.
The complicated part might be fixing errors in your build , but thats how we all learn
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Ok I know that the devs are no where near ready to port a jelly Bean rom and we should be happy with ICS and bla bla bla. That's all fine by me but I was wondering if we could maybe port just the jelly bean notification/status bar look without the other JB stuff like project Butter or google now? Or does is it just a packaged deal? I ask this because I know you can customize the notification look using rom toolbox so maybe it would work with a jelly bean modification? Thank you for your time
TO be honest unless one of the porting teams wants to tackle it we probably wont get those features until a port of JB is released.
One of the subtleties that has been missed by many is that "we" are running ICS on what is basically a GB Linux base. Rather than working on more window dressing, I know several of the active devs are working on getting a working ICS/JB Linux base. Once that is complete and reliable, I would imagine that getting a JB to build will be relatively easy.
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One of the subtleties that has been missed by many is that "we" are running ICS on what is basically a GB Linux base. Rather than working on more window dressing, I know several of the active devs are working on getting a working ICS/JB Linux base. Once that is complete and reliable, I would imagine that getting a JB to build will be relatively easy.
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That is interesting and seems like a more effiecient investment I can't wait till they can get the updated base. I just think that window dressing gives a hands on experience of what were missing out on. Do you happen to know the devs that are working on the new base I'd be interested to know their progress (not to rush them, just out of curiosity)
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That is interesting and seems like a more effiecient investment I can't wait till they can get the updated base. I just think that window dressing gives a hands on experience of what were missing out on. Do you happen to know the devs that are working on the new base I'd be interested to know their progress (not to rush them, just out of curiosity)
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This should answer that.
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Yup, I also noticed that the imgtec repsoitory on TheMuppets was updated with jb, too. (9 days ago, as of this writing)
First thing in order is to get the new 3.0.8 kernel working with ics properly. I'm getting there.
Got storage working on mmc, but having problems getting wifi working, which is using sdio.
So, let me focus on ics, and when that works properly, jb will come naturally
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One of the subtleties that has been missed by many is that "we" are running ICS on what is basically a GB Linux base. Rather than working on more window dressing, I know several of the active devs are working on getting a working ICS/JB Linux base. Once that is complete and reliable, I would imagine that getting a JB to build will be relatively easy.
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I just figured this out today. and it looks like the GB kernel is pre KJ6 as well.
Sssooo.... According to what I read last night, KitKat is supposed to be able to be usable on pretty much all Android phones, all the way down to those with 512mb of RAM.
Any thoughts as to whether the Charge is gonna get some love with this (certainly, I know, NOT from Big Red)?
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Just because they say it could run on lower end phones doesn't mean it will run w/o lag and so on. I heard the chez won't be getting kit Kat so what does that tell you about the older phones.
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The only thing that will run on lower end devices is the new launcher and Google apps. The new ui is supposed to be included in the new launcher and make lower end devices feel and look more like newer ones.
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Sssooo.... According to what I read last night, KitKat is supposed to be able to be usable on pretty much all Android phones, all the way down to those with 512mb of RAM.
Any thoughts as to whether the Charge is gonna get some love with this (certainly, I know, NOT from Big Red)?
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The problem with an upgrade to any newer OS on the Charge is the radios. I don't see KitKat and an exception.:crying::crying:
Interesting how they had it where you could use Hangouts as your default SMS App with all the Emoji smileys on phones with Gingerbread including the Charge on the leaked version from the Nexus 5. It was fully working and I tried it. However, now that it's released to everybody through the Play Store, the SMS option is for Android 4.0 Only.
just got kitkat on my razr.... wish I knew how to port, b/c then I would attempt to port this great ROM over to the old Charge....
I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284985
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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I think you're on the right track, though I think I'd stick with CM11 rather than CM10.2.
Well I am really interested in learning how to build. So I think I will run a few builds for the Fascinate and then see what I can do for the Charge. My programming experience is intermediate. I feel confident I can learn the process and at least get a semi functional kitkat build up and running and then maybe others could help work out the bugs
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Well I am really interested in learning how to build. So I think I will run a few builds for the Fascinate and then see what I can do for the Charge. My programming experience is intermediate. I feel confident I can learn the process and at least get a semi functional kitkat build up and running and then maybe others could help work out the bugs
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good luck brother... i'd be glad to test for ya.
some tips that you may/may not already know:
my understanding is that OS 4+ require EXT4 rather than RFS, so it might help to start with a kernel that allows this conversion. there are a few floating around that work.
someone (JT) has successfully (and I guess relatively easily) ported ICS and JB to the charge, the key aspects not working though were mobile data and camera.
I'm told the key road block is the RIL for the kernel in order to get those aspects functioning properly.
as for me, I'd be happy with just a working camera, as the Charge is used by my son as a WiFi-only media player/gaming device. he likes to take pictures/videos, so this is the only thing preventing me from converting it the latest JB port.
again, good luck, and let us know how the progress goes!
Well I just started a new job and am settling into that so time will be scarce for a bit. I wouldn't even know how to start with the RIL. I would definitely want to get the camera working provided I can even successfully build CM11. I want to make it clear that I am new to this so it is a big undertaking for me and I have a lot to learn. Once I get a build enviroment set up I will see if I can make some fascinate builds for practice since it is very similar to the charge. Then i will reach out to sbrissen or jt1134 and see if they can give me any pointers. I forked their code on github already.
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Well I just started a new job and am settling into that so time will be scarce for a bit. I wouldn't even know how to start with the RIL. I would definitely want to get the camera working provided I can even successfully build CM11. I want to make it clear that I am new to this so it is a big undertaking for me and I have a lot to learn. Once I get a build enviroment set up I will see if I can make some fascinate builds for practice since it is very similar to the charge. Then i will reach out to sbrissen or jt1134 and see if they can give me any pointers. I forked their code on github already.
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As a previous owner of a droid charge, I honestly hope I can squeeze some use out of it as a media device.