http://www.engadget.com/2011/12/15/touchwizzed-ice-cream-sandwich-leaks-for-samsung-galaxy-s-ii/
any brave devs?
I think we should wait our rom officially release...there not much talented dev on this tab forum.. We should wait bit more
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Since there is no Development per say, Im moving this to General.
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At least Sammy is working on this which is good, but the ROM is in very alpha stage...
Is there development of ICS on the 8.9 or 10.1 forums? You would need an ICS kernel of some type to even begin porting, if the other tabs have one that may work for the 7 too with some tweaking. Not sure if a kernel for a phone will even work on a tablet. ROMs I have some experience building, kernels I do not.
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Is there development of ICS on the 8.9 or 10.1 forums? You would need an ICS kernel of some type to even begin porting, if the other tabs have one that may work for the 7 too with some tweaking. Not sure if a kernel for a phone will even work on a tablet. ROMs I have some experience building, kernels I do not.
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I'm pretty sure our tabs run off an entirely different chipset as well.
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true, would be a pain I'm sure. ICS will be released soon enough.. I hope...
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I'm pretty sure our tabs run off an entirely different chipset as well.
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I think you'd have to find a ICS kernel for the exynos processor in the 7 not sure if the current Honeycomb kernel would even work. Porting itself is basically taking the system and boot images off of your current device and replacing the ones in the ROM you want to port with them. The easiest ports are from devices with similar hardware. For the more difficult ports getting things like the sdcard to mount and wifi and bluetooth working can be a ***** and takes some expertise. Way beyond what I could do. I know enough to make ROMs using the kitchen and how to insert premade mods into them and also a little about decompiling and modding apks. All the info is pretty much on this site scattered about in different forums. I've been hesitant to even try anything with my Tab as you can easily brick it playing around I'm not familar enough with it to get it back if I even soft bricked it. My phone has an unlocked bootloader and I can recover it from pretty much any disaster. This thing I'm not even sure how it all works yet, samsung devices are totally new to me.
I'm reading some guides on how to build my own ROM, but in the interim I'm wondering if what I'm looking to do is even possible. I came from a Nexus S 4G and had a completely bare-bones ROM (SlimICS). I want to do something similar, the intent being to completely remove all traces of TouchWiz. I want to know if this is even possible, if it's been done, and if not I want to know what the issues are. Also, links to any sort of guides are greatly appreciated.
I highly doubt u will accomplish what u seek by reading some from making guides. Most of the current ones are for gingerbread and not ics. We will not have a touchwizz free rom (otherwise known as also) for quite sometime. That being said our current devs have done a great job of themeing over it and replacing most things. Sky ics 4.2D-6 and NexusMOD are good examples.
You need to go here and read this thread they are building ics aosp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1586198
Honestly no . Its almost impossible.
Impossible no but it will take a massive amount of knowledge gotta say our boys have been doing a top notch job for having basically nothing I think the project will have better chances once kernel source drops for ics
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I've been thinking about the possibility of extracting the firmware from a Galaxy Tab 2 (ICS) and merging it with the kernel and build.prop from the 7 Plus (Honeycomb).
Technically I can't think of a reason that it wouldn't work, I'd think that the challenge would be getting the kludged FW back onto a 7 plus.
Would it be a futile effort? Maybe if Samsung releases ICS for the Plus, but who knows when that will be.
I don't have any experience on these two Android device other than in an end user capacity (though I have been reading) and very little on a few other Android devices so I dunno if it's feasible, but I thought I'd mention the idea.
Anyone with deeper experience on these things think it might be viable?
I know the devices have different hardware specs so I don't know if it would meld...
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Technically I can't think of a reason that it wouldn't work, I'd think that the challenge would be getting the kludged FW back onto a 7 plus.
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technically: different hardwares, the ics may need some changes on kernell itself to work, so you may not be able to use hc one.
besides the differences of one device to other is not just encapsulated on kernel, the dalvik virtual machine needs to be ported to every machine depending on aspects.
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fewt said:
Technically I can't think of a reason that it wouldn't work, I'd think that the challenge would be getting the kludged FW back onto a 7 plus.
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technically: different hardwares, the ics may need some changes on kernell itself to work, so you may not be able to use hc one.
besides the differences of one device to other is not just encapsulated on kernel, the dalvik virtual machine needs to be ported to every machine depending on aspects.
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Technically, it shouldn't as kernel interfaces don't change that much between releases. Since both processors are ARM, I wouldn't expect a problem with the Dalvik VM either but I guess I could be wrong there.
Would be interesting to see, but I can tell there isn't any interest in it. I've been trying to find a good reference on where to get started with this stuff, but it just seems like a hodgepodge of information sprawled all over the place.
Anyone have a solid guide to getting started building custom firmware that isn't the great google?
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Technically, it shouldn't as kernel interfaces don't change that much between releases. Since both processors are ARM, I wouldn't expect a problem with the Dalvik VM either but I guess I could be wrong there.
Would be interesting to see, but I can tell there isn't any interest in it. I've been trying to find a good reference on where to get started with this stuff, but it just seems like a hodgepodge of information sprawled all over the place.
Anyone have a solid guide to getting started building custom firmware that isn't the great google?
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I suggest you read the CyanogenMod 9 thread in development as you will experience the same problems porting this over without a working ICS kernel.
Here are some threads I've found useful on porting and building from source:
http://www.iphoneandroidtips.org/miui/how-to-port-miui-v4-to-android-phones/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153233
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499411
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169570
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...how-build-your-own-kernel-package-source.html
http://source.android.com/source/index.html
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Building_Kernel_from_source
These threads are for all different models of phones and the methods may or may not work for our tablets but the principles are pretty much the same. In the instance of porting over MIUI 4 you have to start with a working CM9 ROM as it requires a working AOSP ICS kernel, which we don't have yet. Our devs are working their butts off trying to port one over from another device but its slow going without the proper source code that Samsung won't release.
I would think if it were as easy as combining the two, who would need XDA?
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I suggest you read the CyanogenMod 9 thread in development as you will experience the same problems porting this over without a working ICS kernel.
Here are some threads I've found useful on porting and building from source:
http://www.iphoneandroidtips.org/miui/how-to-port-miui-v4-to-android-phones/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1153233
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499411
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169570
http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...how-build-your-own-kernel-package-source.html
http://source.android.com/source/index.html
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Building_Kernel_from_source
These threads are for all different models of phones and the methods may or may not work for our tablets but the principles are pretty much the same. In the instance of porting over MIUI 4 you have to start with a working CM9 ROM as it requires a working AOSP ICS kernel, which we don't have yet. Our devs are working their butts off trying to port one over from another device but its slow going without the proper source code that Samsung won't release.
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This is awesome, I really appreciate you taking the time to write it up.
I hope you have success, either way you will learn, that's why we bought our android for.
I think there's a lot of interest, but this thing is dangerous, lots of devs have their devices bricked trying port or improve,.
My advice is not of an android developer, but of someone that has some experience of customizing or compiling the Linux Kernel. any little thing you forget render you with a system that will not boot. And even if they use the same kernel, ics may need some things activated that hc may not
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Sssooo.... According to what I read last night, KitKat is supposed to be able to be usable on pretty much all Android phones, all the way down to those with 512mb of RAM.
Any thoughts as to whether the Charge is gonna get some love with this (certainly, I know, NOT from Big Red)?
"I've got a revolution behind my eyes..."
--Battle Flag
There will be peace in the middle east first. :banghead:
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Just because they say it could run on lower end phones doesn't mean it will run w/o lag and so on. I heard the chez won't be getting kit Kat so what does that tell you about the older phones.
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The only thing that will run on lower end devices is the new launcher and Google apps. The new ui is supposed to be included in the new launcher and make lower end devices feel and look more like newer ones.
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Sssooo.... According to what I read last night, KitKat is supposed to be able to be usable on pretty much all Android phones, all the way down to those with 512mb of RAM.
Any thoughts as to whether the Charge is gonna get some love with this (certainly, I know, NOT from Big Red)?
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The problem with an upgrade to any newer OS on the Charge is the radios. I don't see KitKat and an exception.:crying::crying:
Interesting how they had it where you could use Hangouts as your default SMS App with all the Emoji smileys on phones with Gingerbread including the Charge on the leaked version from the Nexus 5. It was fully working and I tried it. However, now that it's released to everybody through the Play Store, the SMS option is for Android 4.0 Only.
just got kitkat on my razr.... wish I knew how to port, b/c then I would attempt to port this great ROM over to the old Charge....
I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2284985
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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I'm interested in doing a CM11 build for the Charge or atleast a CM 10.2 build. I have a Galaxy S4 now but I would love to get some use out of the charge. I just want to turn it into a kickass media player since the RIL situation is never going to get solved. If anyone knows what is involved to make this happen it would help me greatly. I've never built CM before. I've read the CM developer wiki. A lot is over my head. I am trying to learn though
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I think you're on the right track, though I think I'd stick with CM11 rather than CM10.2.
Well I am really interested in learning how to build. So I think I will run a few builds for the Fascinate and then see what I can do for the Charge. My programming experience is intermediate. I feel confident I can learn the process and at least get a semi functional kitkat build up and running and then maybe others could help work out the bugs
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Well I am really interested in learning how to build. So I think I will run a few builds for the Fascinate and then see what I can do for the Charge. My programming experience is intermediate. I feel confident I can learn the process and at least get a semi functional kitkat build up and running and then maybe others could help work out the bugs
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good luck brother... i'd be glad to test for ya.
some tips that you may/may not already know:
my understanding is that OS 4+ require EXT4 rather than RFS, so it might help to start with a kernel that allows this conversion. there are a few floating around that work.
someone (JT) has successfully (and I guess relatively easily) ported ICS and JB to the charge, the key aspects not working though were mobile data and camera.
I'm told the key road block is the RIL for the kernel in order to get those aspects functioning properly.
as for me, I'd be happy with just a working camera, as the Charge is used by my son as a WiFi-only media player/gaming device. he likes to take pictures/videos, so this is the only thing preventing me from converting it the latest JB port.
again, good luck, and let us know how the progress goes!
Well I just started a new job and am settling into that so time will be scarce for a bit. I wouldn't even know how to start with the RIL. I would definitely want to get the camera working provided I can even successfully build CM11. I want to make it clear that I am new to this so it is a big undertaking for me and I have a lot to learn. Once I get a build enviroment set up I will see if I can make some fascinate builds for practice since it is very similar to the charge. Then i will reach out to sbrissen or jt1134 and see if they can give me any pointers. I forked their code on github already.
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Well I just started a new job and am settling into that so time will be scarce for a bit. I wouldn't even know how to start with the RIL. I would definitely want to get the camera working provided I can even successfully build CM11. I want to make it clear that I am new to this so it is a big undertaking for me and I have a lot to learn. Once I get a build enviroment set up I will see if I can make some fascinate builds for practice since it is very similar to the charge. Then i will reach out to sbrissen or jt1134 and see if they can give me any pointers. I forked their code on github already.
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As a previous owner of a droid charge, I honestly hope I can squeeze some use out of it as a media device.
So, i opened this therad because there no persons pushing and Developing custom AOSP Roms for the Galaxy Tab 3.
I'm opening it here because the Android Developing forum is a bit AFK.
Also, my first question is,
Why we are not using the Android x86 source, put a little bit from samsung open source and Tab 3 binaries it, and compile it?
Its so hard?
We are the xda-developers, we can do it!
Curious..
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Also, my first question is,
Why we are not using the Android x86 source, put a little bit from samsung open source and Tab 3 binaries it, and compile it?
Its so hard?
We are the xda-developers, we can do it!
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Yes, I'm asking myself the same, the Galaxy Tab 3 is such a famous device and out since July, but still there are nearly no ROMs out. Are there any ROMs planned or will this device soon be moved to the low activity section? CyanogenMod officially supported the Galaxy tab and the galaxy tab 2, but it doesn't seem like they are planning to support the galaxy tab 3?
Is there a special reason for that?, I'm just wondering?
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Yes, I'm asking myself the same, the Galaxy Tab 3 is such a famous device and out since July, but still there are nearly no ROMs out. Are there any ROMs planned or will this device soon be moved to the low activity section? CyanogenMod officially supported the Galaxy tab and the galaxy tab 2, but it doesn't seem like they are planning to support the galaxy tab 3?
Is there a special reason for that?, I'm just wondering?
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you know why we need developers who want to put some time in this device and at the moment we don't have much dev's around here so wait...
Willing to get my hands dirty...
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you know why we need developers who want to put some time in this device and at the moment we don't have much dev's around here so wait...
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The most device development I've done to date has been a simple android app, but I'm willing to get dirty on this one. I just came into possession of one of these devices over xmas, and I never let a good device go to waste. I do have 17 years of programming experience in multiple languages including C++ and Java, and a lot of web-based languages, so I'm hoping to come up to speed relatively quickly.
I'll poke around here and on the net over the next few days and see if I can teach myself, but if someone could point me in the direction of some quick start tutorials for building custom roms, I'll get started.
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AnthonyAlmighty said:
The most device development I've done to date has been a simple android app, but I'm willing to get dirty on this one. I just came into possession of one of these devices over xmas, and I never let a good device go to waste. I do have 17 years of programming experience in multiple languages including C++ and Java, and a lot of web-based languages, so I'm hoping to come up to speed relatively quickly.
I'll poke around here and on the net over the next few days and see if I can teach myself, but if someone could point me in the direction of some quick start tutorials for building custom roms, I'll get started.
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Anthony, I think one thing that is holding people back on this device is a good recovery. The ones available now are painfully slow. I'm guessing there is some power saving mode on the x86 chip that needs to be tweaked to get it performing well. Once that was fixed, it would be a lot easier to experiment with ROMs. -- Bud
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Anthony and all, hi and hello. Thinking of shaking the rust off, as I also just came into possession of a GTab3, 10.1 inch, over this holiday season. I haven't built anything in a long time, but anyone who ran a Vibrant a couple years ago around here, should recognize my handle. I maintained a rom for the Vibrant for quite a while, from Froyo to ICS, then life got busy.
Popping into here today, I'm kinda sad to see there's not much if any in the way of development on this device. Happy to have root, thats a start. cduced was right, we do need a better recovery option, at least one that is faster, though what we have now is workable. TWRP may be slow, but it's something. We were always hung up on doing pure aosp source build for the Vibrant, because Sammy is not known for making their kernel source easily and readily available. Working from an existing zip to kang it is easy, but really thats just the same rom, maybe stripped and repackaged. A source build is the desirable outcome.
Though I haven't begun looking into things for this baby yet, and my adb and build tools are far out of date, I am very interested in working towards a better set of options for this device. 4.2.2 still? I can't believe Sammy hasn't released a 4.3 update, that's sad, but goes to show the lack of support they give their devices, to anyone who's been there you know, but you also know, determined devs can make it a better world.
Anthony, and anyone else interested in trying to improve this device, feel free to PM me, I'm thinkin' we should make a Google Hangout or something, make it easier to communicate.
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Anthony and all, hi and hello. Thinking of shaking the rust off, as I also just came into possession of a GTab3, 10.1 inch, over this holiday season. I haven't built anything in a long time, but anyone who ran a Vibrant a couple years ago around here, should recognize my handle. I maintained a rom for the Vibrant for quite a while, from Froyo to ICS, then life got busy.
Popping into here today, I'm kinda sad to see there's not much if any in the way of development on this device. Happy to have root, thats a start. cduced was right, we do need a better recovery option, at least one that is faster, though what we have now is workable. TWRP may be slow, but it's something. We were always hung up on doing pure aosp source build for the Vibrant, because Sammy is not known for making their kernel source easily and readily available. Working from an existing zip to kang it is easy, but really thats just the same rom, maybe stripped and repackaged. A source build is the desirable outcome.
Though I haven't begun looking into things for this baby yet, and my adb and build tools are far out of date, I am very interested in working towards a better set of options for this device. 4.2.2 still? I can't believe Sammy hasn't released a 4.3 update, that's sad, but goes to show the lack of support they give their devices, to anyone who's been there you know, but you also know, determined devs can make it a better world.
Anthony, and anyone else interested in trying to improve this device, feel free to PM me, I'm thinkin' we should make a Google Hangout or something, make it easier to communicate.
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Hey I want aosp on this device too! At the very least, id like a custom kernel that I can overclock to reduce lag. Ive never created a rom, but I dont think roms are the issue...id be interested in porting roms that already exists...x-note for multiwindow features, or pac-rom for a highly customized device.
Are you still up for the projects? Lets heat these forums up!!!
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Hey I want aosp on this device too! At the very least, id like a custom kernel that I can overclock to reduce lag. Ive never created a rom, but I dont think roms are the issue...id be interested in porting roms that already exists...x-note for multiwindow features, or pac-rom for a highly customized device.
Are you still up for the projects? Lets heat these forums up!!!
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Thanks guys for give it a try, I'm like the other owner don't understand why there is no interest for this devise didn't check before buy and now start to regret
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Thanks guys for give it a try, I'm like the other owner don't understand why there is no interest for this devise didn't check before buy and now start to regret
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There are some devs now they just relesed 2 but there tw based there trying it just takes awile because of lack of devs.
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There are some devs now they just relesed 2 but there tw based there trying it just takes awile because of lack of devs.
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It's ok I have already seen and tried them :laugh:. I understand the concept of work on something new and the lack of dev it's just that I was surprised because I thought tab 3 was like the others tabs so the development was more evolve.no problem.
Not to knock it, but whats been released in the threads, is nothing more than the deodexed build already up there, with some bloat removed. Even the install scripts have, or had, the same text as the original. So really, nothing new. I am looking into possibly kernel cooking for this device, that seems like a good point to start.
No promises at this point, I'm looking into it though.
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Not to knock it, but whats been released in the threads, is nothing more than the deodexed build already up there, with some bloat removed. Even the install scripts have, or had, the same text as the original. So really, nothing new. I am looking into possibly kernel cooking for this device, that seems like a good point to start.
No promises at this point, I'm looking into it though.
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This is true but there is finally a bit of interest and may come up with some new goodies..... the reason they all have the same updater.script is because of the recoveries.... they need a little more work to get them to work with the x86 architecture
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Br1cK'd said:
Not to knock it, but whats been released in the threads, is nothing more than the deodexed build already up there, with some bloat removed. Even the install scripts have, or had, the same text as the original. So really, nothing new. I am looking into possibly kernel cooking for this device, that seems like a good point to start.
No promises at this point, I'm looking into it though.
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Hey PM me with any test builds of the kernels please.
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I think someone has to pm restl3ss!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49126542&postcount=90
Let's see what can we do here!
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I think someone has to pm restl3ss!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49126542&postcount=90
Let's see what can we do here!
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Dont understand your post.... the link goes to one of his posts
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Because in this post (if i'm not wrong) he tells that is making a recovery with 4 guys more.
something needed here xD.
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Because in this post (if i'm not wrong) he tells that is making a recovery with 4 guys more.
something needed here xD.
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Lol.... I see yeah... I am also in the process of building recovery but its a long time coming. Right now im reading a lot of material on how to build from source as that the route of the prob. Its this damb x86 architecture
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Maybe.... we can port something from here
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/06/micromax/
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If anyone have time, pm me and we can discuss about. I'm not a developer, but we can discuss ideas how to bring cm to the device