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Hey all,
Today I bought an Acer Aspire One D255E netbook which has dual boot Android.
The thing is though that I'm pretty sure its running 1.5 or 1.6 from the looks of the UI (I don't quite know seeing as my HTC phone has HTC Sense) and there is also no Android Market. Is it possible to install a custom ROM based on Honeycomb?
If so would you please be able to give me a step by step walkthrough as I am completely new to rooting/ custom ROMs etc
Thanks
I'm not 100% but I can't imagine it being 1.5 or 1.6, its probably just vanilla android (no proprietary ui). You don't get to see android all by itself very often. As for a custom rom,i don't see why not. You would just need to find a developer with interest in it. Most net books aren't far above this generation of phones, and also would think the file system would be similar if not identical.
I might even go as far as to say start poking around the file system if you can, being a computer it may have root access already (sort of like a dev phone). Hey if you're feeling brave you could try one of the one click root apps like z4 root, see if it works.
i'd also like to say that I'm not telling you to do this, there are risks involved in doing anything unknown and try this only if you are prepared for those possibilities. Do it at your own risk, I'm not responsible if you mess something up while experimenting.
Just some thoughts ;-)
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I got myself a Motorola Droid and I've been playing with the kernel quite a bit - it didn't take long to get Debian to boot from the SD card!
Necessary kernel modifications:
CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE=y
Motorola must have stealthily removed this from the kernel To re-enable it, add an #ifdef in arch/arm/kernel/setup.c as per http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2010/1/28/4533180.
CONFIG_CMDLINE="[email protected] mtdparts=omap2-nand.0:[email protected](mbm),[email protected](cdt),[email protected](lbl),[email protected](misc),3584k(boot),4608k(recovery),143744k(system),94848k(cache),268032k(userdata),2m(kpanic) root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 omapfb.rotate=1 noinitrd quiet".
That's about it! Just compile it, use Koush's AnyKernel update.zip generator, and flash away! I tried Ubuntu, but Thumb-2 support is broken in the kernel - it can't execute /sbin/init, so it panics. In theory, Gentoo, Slackware, Arch, Angstrom, MeeGo, and many other Linux distros for ARM should work with little modification. The sky's the limit! (JK, Windows 8000 won't work )
That's awesome! You gotta love Linux!
Screenshots, video, anything?
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Screenshots, video, anything?
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I don't see the point - unless you want a screenshot of Debian's console login prompt, which you can find almost anywhere. I'm running X with E17 (Illume) now, but without proper touchscreen calibration it's not very useful... I might do a video or something once I have it calibrated.
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I got myself a Motorola Droid and I've been playing with the kernel quite a bit - it didn't take long to get Debian to boot from the SD card!
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I'm trying to get this set up on my droid. Would you be willing to provide a little more details for a novice like me? Were you modifying the stock kernel or 3rd party? Does wifi work in native debian?
EDIT: I found this other thread which has more details, so I'll start there. Thanks! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1318330
The end of the beginning
I've been tempting fate a lot lately. Despite my attempts to keep this platform alive, my Droid bit the dust yesterday.
Its digital contents live on, but the hardware wasn't so lucky.
It always had a way of inconveniencing me, so I'm somewhat relieved about it.
Unfortunately, finding a replacement is going to be a pain.
Mostly due to a lack of money (WiFi+Google Voice+plentiful open source software = less spending/work incentive)
and the length of my uncompromising list of requirements,
I am beginning to realize that my dream phone might never exist.
Somewhat refreshingly, I'm around "weird" people a lot, and they remind me (without using words!) that there are better things in life than shopping for a smartphone.
This isn't exactly goodbye, but I may be away from the XDA scene for a while.
Apologies to any users of my coding experiments... Hopefully, if nothing else, they inspire something more useful.
Thanks y'all for the fun time and for reading this long post
Don't stop inventing!
gTan64 said:
I got myself a Motorola Droid and I've been playing with the kernel quite a bit - it didn't take long to get Debian to boot from the SD card!
Necessary kernel modifications:
CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE=y
Motorola must have stealthily removed this from the kernel To re-enable it, add an #ifdef in arch/arm/kernel/setup.c as per http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2010/1/28/4533180.
CONFIG_CMDLINE="[email protected] mtdparts=omap2-nand.0:[email protected](mbm),[email protected](cdt),[email protected](lbl),[email protected](misc),3584k(boot),4608k(recovery),143744k(system),94848k(cache),268032k(userdata),2m(kpanic) root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 omapfb.rotate=1 noinitrd quiet".
That's about it! Just compile it, use Koush's AnyKernel update.zip generator, and flash away! I tried Ubuntu, but Thumb-2 support is broken in the kernel - it can't execute /sbin/init, so it panics. In theory, Gentoo, Slackware, Arch, Angstrom, MeeGo, and many other Linux distros for ARM should work with little modification. The sky's the limit! (JK, Windows 8000 won't work )
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Hmmm.... how would I go about checking into this for the transformer prime?
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Hmmm.... how would I go about checking into this for the transformer prime?
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1.) Figure out how to run an unsigned kernel image. Kexec, fastboot, USB kernel flasher, etc...
2.) Replace the Android initramfs and/or tell the kernel where to boot from (depending on which method you pick above, you may need to compile a custom kernel);
3.) Install a root filesystem image on an SD card (internal storage may work, but it's less risky to dual boot) and point the kernel to it.
I got Ubuntu running even better on my "new" Epic 4G! Other devices should work with this method, but I'm not too enthusiastic about porting for devices I don't own
I know this is a very old thread, but the OP has disabled his PM messaging system, so I have no other choice.
I'm interested in repeating what this guy did here, as I too have a moto droid (a855) and i'd like to get at least a little use out of it.
I have some questions.
Where did you get the kernel sources? (i see you're saying to modify something in arch/arm/kernel/setup.c)
How did you get debian to boot from the SD Card? You mention kernel modification but you never mentioned anything about the setup process.
Will the process here https://wiki.debian.org/HowtoDebianInAndroid work for this? Everything mentioned there except the kernel seems to not be device specific.
So, first of all, I'm not entirely sure if this thread belongs in this category, but since it's something pretty wide, I guess it wouldn't hurt.
So I'm looking into flashing Linux into a phone (an sgs2, more precisly). I'm not talking about chroots under android and etc, I'm talking about actually flashing grub, the kernel and every other files that would usually come with a desktop distro. I'm toying a bit with Gentoo, see if I can recompile the whole thing for ARM before probably ending up bricking my device.
Anyways, I want to know if anyone has every tried flashing the whole thing into a phone, be it android, windows phone, etc, and what would you guys think about it.
I'll be trying with an android phone, since it pretty much uses the linux kernel, and so drivers shouldn't be too much of a pain in the ass to recompile. Might also keep the original boot loader until I feel good enough about completely eradicating the base software that the hardware was designed for.
any thoughts/advices/insults/mind farts on the subject welcome
did you hear about Ubuntu for android project? it's based on GB 2.3.6 but ATM i think the project is stuck. you can see more information on Ubuntu page I'm subscribed to information about it 'cause I will love Ubuntu running on my S2 too. but I heard nothing about other available project from other people
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Great Question! that's something about which I am interested as well. However, I think you might try looking around the "Hardware Hacking" thread or post your question there maybe? I'd like to, but I can't...since I am a NOOB!
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crzr said:
did you hear about Ubuntu for android project? it's based on GB 2.3.6 but ATM i think the project is stuck. you can see more information on Ubuntu page I'm subscribed to information about it 'cause I will love Ubuntu running on my S2 too. but I heard nothing about other available project from other people
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Yea that's awesome, I think I saw a couple of videos on youtube with some guys showing Ubuntu running on their phone
I will do it. I will post if something new comes. But I am happy right now with ICS/JB roms. I'll wait for their Ubuntu for android release if they decide to make possible Ubuntu for android phones
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I will do it. I will post if something new comes. But I am happy right now with ICS/JB roms. I'll wait for their Ubuntu for android release if they decide to make possible Ubuntu for android phones
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yea, i think the OP had in mind to bypass android? perhaps? and to use the phone's hardware/kernel parameters in order to boot linux onto it
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yea, i think the OP had in mind to bypass android? perhaps? and to use the phone's hardware/kernel parameters in order to boot linux onto it
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Yeah, I meant getting ride of the underlaying OS and flash linux in place of it.
I think ubuntu uses chroot under android, I haven't seen anything about flashing it into the device.
What I have in mind is not just flashing it on android phones, but about any piece of hardware decent enough to run it (although the existing drivers on android phones would help).
Right now I'm toying a bit with the cross compiler, but I haven't really started any serious project about making it happen.
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Yea, that's why I suggested, initially, to take a look at the "Hardware Hacking" forum...otherwise, you can learn about Systems Programming --maybe a good start might be Programming Embedded Systems, 2nd Edition
With C and GNU Development Tools
By Michael Barr, Anthony Massa
Publisher: O'Reilly Media
Released: October 2006
Pages: 336
btw: sorry, I can't post links, but you can google on how to get started
also: HIT THE THANKS BUTTON IF I HELPED YOU, too
I've made several attempts at the chroot method of adding Linux to an android device with good results. My ultimate goal is to have my android device load and run Linux when i plug it into a docking station so i can use it as a computer. Back to the topic at hand, to add Linux as the native OS instead of android. I would start by building a root file system for android and attempt to copy it over the existing android rootfs. The process would be identical to building the chroot Linux rootfs. The next thing to do is to acquire the kernel source and re-compile it so you can have all of the modules / drivers you want. I would say that this would be standard and easy peasy stuff right up until you got to the X11 and video hardware acceleration.
If your going to try this, I would look for a device that has the following:
1) Kernel source available - make sure there are good instructions on how to configure and compile
2) Device is easily unlock-able and root-able
3) Has a micro SD card slot
So, first of all, I'm not entirely sure if this thread belongs in this category, but since it's something pretty wide, I guess it wouldn't hurt.
So I'm looking into flashing Linux into a phone (an sgs2, more precisly). I'm not talking about chroots under android and etc, I'm talking about actually flashing grub, the kernel and every other files that would usually come with a desktop distro. I'm toying a bit with Gentoo, see if I can recompile the whole thing for ARM before probably ending up bricking my device.
Anyways, I want to know if anyone has every tried flashing the whole thing into a phone, be it android, windows phone, etc, and what would you guys think about it.
I'll be trying with an android phone, since it pretty much uses the linux kernel, and so drivers shouldn't be too much of a pain in the ass to recompile. Might also keep the original boot loader until I feel good enough about completely eradicating the base software that the hardware was designed for.
any thoughts/advices/insults/mind farts on the subject welcome
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162316 this can help you?
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Well, ubnuntu just made an annoucnement that they will have a mobile tablet and phone os, that will be matched with thier other versions so it is one os that will work on all your computing devices using all the same apps that you already run. They will also have the HTML 5 apps as part of this.
Just thought you guys might be interested.
I am very excited about this.
Sound off and let's discuss after you check out the video on the link below:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I see android becoming a GUI skin for Ubuntu. It's been nothing more than a matter of time before PC OS's merged with phone OS's . With some of the new hardware technologies almost ready for primetime our mobiles will take the place of PC/laptops in our lives. Desktops are evolving into more of a server role in the home. Appliances , home entertainment, environmental control will all be run from a central home super PC/server. The technology is out now but advances are coming that will make it more practical for the masses.
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I see android becoming a GUI skin for Ubuntu. It's been nothing more than a matter of time before PC OS's merged with phone OS's . With some of the new hardware technologies almost ready for primetime our mobiles will take the place of PC/laptops in our lives. Desktops are evolving into more of a server role in the home. Appliances , home entertainment, environmental control will all be run from a central home super PC/server. The technology is out now but advances are coming that will make it more practical for the masses.
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Actually it is the other way around.... in the video it was said that the ubuntu phone os will work with the android kernel, so it should work on any current android hardware, and should be very easy to implement it.
This is really because the android kernel is really the general linux 3.0 kernel.
I am going to work on getting this working on this phone, as soon they release the OS to everyone. I can see this taking this phone to where it should be as far as performance is concerned.
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Actually it is the other way around.... in the video it was said that the ubuntu phone os will work with the android kernel, so it should work on any current android hardware, and should be very easy to implement it.
This is really because the android kernel is really the general linux 3.0 kernel.
I am going to work on getting this working on this phone, as soon they release the OS to everyone. I can see this taking this phone to where it should be as far as performance is concerned.
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You are saying You can boot this version of Ubuntu with our stock moto kernel?
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You are saying You can boot this version of Ubuntu with our stock moto kernel?
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Not sure yet, but from the video in the link I posted toward the end, it sure sounded like that was the case. I am sure some work will have to be done, but it sounded promising.
I'm most interested in seeing how this turns out when you unleash your kung fu on it. My nexus 4 should be here soon, after it arrives my A2 will be at your disposal for any alpha testing. Then again my A2 has always been available for testing anything you or certain other devs come up with.
This is super sexy. I cannot wait for this to come out. I have been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu off and on for years now. This just made my day. I love the GUI. I wonder... What type of bootloader this will use. Some modified versions of Lilo, or Grub?
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This is super sexy. I cannot wait for this to come out. I have been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu off and on for years now. This just made my day. I love the GUI. I wonder... What type of bootloader this will use. Some modified versions of Lilo, or Grub?
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Prolly not going to be lilo, it has been a while since lilo was a default BL for linux. Grub, both in the the gui and text bootloaders has been the BL of choice for most linux distros for some time now.
I am guessing that if this works with the android kernel, that it might not use a separate BL for those devices, but I would guess that again grub would be on new devices that are made to run this by default.
I can see this taking this phone to where it should be as far as performance is concerned.
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I'm curious as to why you say this. Is there any particular reason that performance would be better with Ubuntu over Android? If the kernel is the same, it would seem to me that the performance level achievable would be the same with either.
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Prolly not going to be lilo, it has been a while since lilo was a default BL for linux. Grub, both in the the gui and text bootloaders has been the BL of choice for most linux distros for some time now.
I am guessing that if this works with the android kernel, that it might not use a separate BL for those devices, but I would guess that again grub would be on new devices that are made to run this by default.
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Cool.Since it is open source do you think the BL will be locked down? I'm actually kinda confused as to how this would work. Would we still have our locked down BL if we installed a port of the Ubuntu OS? Or would the Ubuntu OS totally replace everything?
It looks like the original phone this is made for is a galaxy Nexus, so.... We should be able to get this running on our A2 fairly easily.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
As to the person who asked about why I feel the performance will be better, is because of how linux itself and the apps that are used, use hardware, android itself does not handle apps talking to hardware very well, and tend to kill battery in the process much faster.
I run linux on a ton of my computers and devices, and I will tell you, I have a netbook running ubuntu and I get 13 hours on battery with it, where with any other OS I get maybe 6 hours. And yes it runs an atom processor, and I have been able to test running android on it, and ran very poorly as far as battery and performance was concerned, even with linaro running.
The ONLY reason we will not be able to run the true ubuntu kernel with this is thanks to motorola locking this thing down so tight that we can not run any other bootloader or kernel on this device.
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Cool.Since it is open source do you think the BL will be locked down? I'm actually kinda confused as to how this would work. Would we still have our locked down BL if we installed a port of the Ubuntu OS? Or would the Ubuntu OS totally replace everything?
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Sorry to say for our phone, we will not be able to run the whole thing. We will have to keep our bootloader and kernel, but basically run this from our /system partition much like flashing a ROM.
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Sorry to say for our phone, we will not be able to run the whole thing. We will have to keep our bootloader and kernel, but basically run this from our /system partition much like flashing a ROM.
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Thank you for clearing that up. I was thinking that was how it would be. I still can't wait to try this out!
This may be a dumb question.... but wasn't ubuntu designed to run on x86? How would it work on ARM?
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This may be a dumb question.... but wasn't ubuntu designed to run on x86? How would it work on ARM?
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Ubuntu has come a long way. There are many different variations of it now. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm
WOW this is a real game changer here..... Have been thinking for a while what could be the next BIG thing looks like this is it..... Take a quad core with 2gb ram 32gb onboard and 32gb sd and this is going to be a beasted laptop in your pocket.....
Haha just read the other part of the page and it almost looks loke a direct quote.....
I don't know if I'm remembering correctly but wasn't Canonical working with Motorola on Ubuntu for Android? And wasn't even the phone they demoed it on in the video an Atrix 2?
They are obviously different projects as Ubuntu for Android was to allow the ability to boot into Ubuntu from inside android much like Jim's Webtop hack, but I just thought I should bring it up.
Generally speaking, I'm pretty excited about this too. I haven't been able to find any information on the ubuntu "dock ". Availability, price, inputs/outputs, etc. I think it will be awesome to have a dockable piece of hardware to run as a mobile or home device.
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Oh wow this is gonna be just amazing a true Linux mobile os I for one can't wait to load an Ubuntu based ROM onto my a2
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This is going to be so awesome if it really works. I'm already setting up a dev environment to port it to my tablet, where it will really be awesome.
EDIT: PS will it be able to run normal andriod apps too?
Hi guys. I wanted to usher in 2023 by bringing my old ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T back to life.
I've had it since I was a kid, and have tried various Custom Roms over the years.
The last one I installed was the KatKiss with Android 6.0, and the experience wasn't exactly smooth.
Can you recommend me some new ROM to refresh it a bit? I'm open to anything, whether it's upgrading or downgrading, or even installing an entire Linux distro (which would be pretty cool ngl).
I have basic experience with modding android devices, but I would like to experiment with this also to learn something new, so I'm also open to more complex installations.
I'm looking for something that gives me a smooth and stable experience. It doesn't need to be highly customizable or complete, in fact I prefer near-stock android roms.
I simply wish I could do something with this old tablet instead of leaving it in a drawer gathering dust. Every time I look at it, it feels like a shame to have abandoned it like this.
Kitkass nougat rom, if you want fast speeds,don't install gapps,Google playstore. Use F-droid. Have this same predicament, has the dock and all. But no development, rom wise, but is linux for it.
I too have an orignal TF700T that has never performed as expected, being horrendously sluggish from the day I bought it to even just open chrome, let alone run any app.
Now that i'm officially a retired old phart I finally have the time to try to modify this device.
BUT, scouring the web trying to learn and understand what is best to do and how to go about it is like dringing from a firehose. There are so many conflicting posts mostly quite old, with different suggestions that I don't know where to begin.
As a start I have managed to unlock but where to from here? Is there a succinct guide suitable for a noobie to follow that would allow me to easily upgrade the system to be reasonably fast and reliable?
I'd appreciate your wisdom
Thanks
PS. and my avatar is almost a selfie !!
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I too have an orignal TF700T that has never performed as expected, being horrendously sluggish from the day I bought it to even just open chrome, let alone run any app.
Now that i'm officially a retired old phart I finally have the time to try to modify this device.
BUT, scouring the web trying to learn and understand what is best to do and how to go about it is like dringing from a firehose. There are so many conflicting posts mostly quite old, with different suggestions that I don't know where to begin.
As a start I have managed to unlock but where to from here? Is there a succinct guide suitable for a noobie to follow that would allow me to easily upgrade the system to be reasonably fast and reliable?
I'd appreciate your wisdom
Thanks
PS. and my avatar is almost a selfie !!
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Currently running KatKiss 7.1rom on this device,its fast without the playstore, can download a open sourced app store called F-droid... If Im not mistaken, can also use exposed mods but will have to use KatKiss 7.0 rom for it to work.
Thanks @foxcartman1
Ive yet to bite the bullet . Still reading forum posts trying hard not to disappear down rabbit holes.
I have concluded KatKiss is the way to go. Nougatella #39 7.1.2
As for TWRP, I’m leaning toward the latest available (26) using the TF700t 2.6.3.1 BLOB
I just hope there are no compatibility issues with this choice. I guess time will reveal all…
Thanks again
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Thanks @foxcartman1
Ive yet to bite the bullet . Still reading forum posts trying hard not to disappear down rabbit holes.
I have concluded KatKiss is the way to go. Nougatella #39 7.1.2
As for TWRP, I’m leaning toward the latest available (26) using the TF700t 2.6.3.1 BLOB
I just hope there are no compatibility issues with this choice. I guess time will reveal all…
Thanks again
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TWRP [email protected] is the recovery that I use, Ive had no problems with that one. Flashed many roms with that twrp.
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Kitkass nougat rom, if you want fast speeds,don't install gapps,Google playstore. Use F-droid. Have this same predicament, has the dock and all. But no development, rom wise, but is linux for it.
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Is there a way to install a Linux destro like PopOS or Mint on the TF? - NP
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Is there a way to install a Linux destro like PopOS or Mint on the TF? - NP
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I seen Gentoo for it but looked like it was still in development. Maybe Debian based Sparky Linux, might work being this tab only has 1gb ram, Ive yet to try that, I will ask the developer of sparky linux about it