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I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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same too me, I tried it over 3.1, what I experienced:
- browser little bit slower
- more SOD
- nothing real extra feature
I have to use a custom rom for a couple of reasons:
1) My stock rom is the Chinese verison, which means no google apps or google sync. Without google, it's just not android.
2) I need the Chinese input methods. I would normally switch to the USA stock rom, but it doesn't have Chinese input. Prime does/did, Chinese handwriting input is MIA, but I'll sure it will be taken care of.
I choose to use a custom rom for these reasons:
3) I don't like excess crap on my computer. I can modify a custom rom before I install it, mostly just removing apps that I will never use.
4) Root! I love freedom on my computer. Root lets me do things. All kinds of neat things: block ads, increase speed on sd card, delete/modify system apps and directories, and lots more. Look into it, it is fun.
5) Overclock. Prime doesn't have it, but you can add a kernal that does. I currently don't overclock, but as the Tegra 2 ages, i will overclock it. I'm specifically waiting for a rom with a high GPU overclock. There is one out there that currently does have a minor GPU overclock.
6) Clockwork Recovery. Backup, restore, switch roms, clear cache and more.
Why I choose Prime:
7) Dock battery meter in the taskbar.
8) Reboot/recovery options for power button.
After looking through the current selection of roms available, I choose Prime. But I keep my eye on revolver and Clemsyn.
bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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How do you not? OP clearly states that there are optimizations made to increase load times etc etc.
No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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bobloadmire said:
I haven't flashed to any Tom's yet, but this seems to be the most popular. Why is that? I looked at the change log and I don't understand what I would be gaining I guess.
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Last time I flashed a Tom he punched me in the face...
One reason I haven't seen mentioned would also be themes, but it is still early in the game, there are few options. Custom Roms are generally just optimized better, though the Transformer doesn't have nearly the bloat some Android devices have making them almost essential...
Honestly once you learn, it is such an easy process that flashing different roms/kernels and trying them is the only real way to know what is best for you and your usage.
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No, op states "better user experience" which is very vague. Also I'm not having any slow load times, everything is pretty zippy.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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The reason im asking is so i dont miss out on anything and obviously im looking for empiracle data to help me understand any performance benefits.
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zephiK said:
Then why are you worrying about ROMs? It's obvious you want some of that Baconcomb so just get it already.
Honestly, I don't know why people ever need to "beg" you to try something. If you're happy with what you got already, then be happy.
"If it isn't broken, don't fix it"
If you're curious, then just do it... because all in honesty. One person's opinion is only a opinion. The only way you're going to know if it's worth it is from YOUR personal experience. I can personally say that, PRIME 1.6 and root is good and its worth it.
If you don't want to take my word for it, then don't. I'm not going to beg you to do it.
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Wow...
He asked what was the difference between stock and Prime, and you went off in another direction. He wasn't asking to be "begged" into using Prime nor asking for others to convince him into using Prime at all.
Anyways, I know Prime has a few optimizations, but I don't know if it brings any substantial changes. There's a link to download the power/recovery mod, so I suppose it could be applied to any ROM including rooted stock.
One reason I would like to root my tf101 is to be able to use a USB dongle. But I am waiting for 3.2 to come out before since I just got my tf101.
The stock version is pretty good actually. No major complaints so far.
I hav ebeen using Prime for a while but ASUS stock version is definitely quite good. Even more so for lack of garbageware that so plagues the mobile phones...
Yea I guess I'm in the same camp. I haven't seen a compelling reason to move to a different ROM versus rooted stock. There are too many posts that seem to lead users to believe that a different ROM is the same as root. Remember you can root the stock ROM. The OP is asking what user experience enhancements make Prime (or any other ROM) compelling.
If you read changelog second post it will tell you exactly what's new in the ROM. Many changes are only useful for experienced linux users, but many others are useful for everyone. The nice thing about roms is that most of the things and tweaks are already done for you. If you don't need/care about those changes then there is no point for you to reflash.
Which BXX mod did you get ?
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
Manufacturer's (ASUS included) have to be very careful about their ROM releases so they are thoroughly tested and ready to release to the general public. Consequently they are slower to release updates (i.e. NVidia updates, etc.). Custom ROMs generally consolidate the best and latest releases from various manufacturer's into the most cuttest edge versions you can possibly be running. As you'll notice this can also mean more lock-ups and weird issues since you are getting just-available changes. So if you prefer max stability, stick with the manufacturer's updates. For many of us part of the fun of owning an Android tablet is the rapid pace that custom ROMs are put out and the interesting/quirky things they bring us.
marcelol said:
I'm curious because I'm thinking of picking up one of these today ( the guy at Orifice Depot tried to get me to buy an Iconia, but that thing doesn't have anywhere near the support the TF is getting...)....?
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I got a B60 TF and a B60 dock from my local OD this past weekend (Denver, CO).
Prime Vs Stock
Reason why I flashed the Prime Rom. With Prime and a netflix patch I'm able to stream netflix movie. Also now Adhoc connections work. I can Wifi tehther my TF101 with my Driod using the adhoc connection. I can now easily reboot into recovery prior to this going into recovery was a bit tricky. This was not possible even with HC 3.2. Also I don't have to worry about losing root becuase of an OTA update.
I am actually a flashaholic when it comes to flashing roms on my phone. But so far, I haven't come across any compelling reasons to flash custom roms on my transformer. The need to flash roms on phones offer benefits that are non existant on a tablet. For instance, one major reason to flash custom roms on phones is to enable free wifi tethering, which obviously does not apply here. Another reason, as stated above is to remove bloatware. The transformer doesn't really have that. And yet another reason is to be able to update to the latest Android version before the official release. Correct me if i'm wrong but when I looked, the 3.2 update came out officially before any transformer custom roms had it. There are a couple more minor customizations options that I'm not seeing yet being offered by the transformer roms. I am fully aware of the speed enhancements and optimizations that custom roms offer, but considering the custom roms for the transformer are still relatively new (no disrespect or discredit to the devs for their hard work), and considering that even still now, the rooting and flashing methods keep getting outdated and changed, it's too early in this ballgame for me to flash.
I've been lurking the forums here now for a month and finally pulled the trigger, my TF get's here monday.
I have yet to see any reason to flash a custom rom or even root at this point. I'll be rooting it just to say it's rooted and just for a couple of root only programs I have. The custom roms don't really bring anything to the table that this tablet doesn't have. it has the newest version of android with all the bells and whistles. I'm not going to be overclocking. I understand netflix is big for some people, but, from what I have read flashing the fix breaks some video playback. I'm ok to wait for the official netflix patch. A 32gb MicroSD and the 16gb on board space is plenty to store movies on for travel etc. I also have a server I run at home that will stream my entire movie,. TV, and music collections directly to me.
Having the best of the best and the most up to date version of android does have it's perks
Hey guys I have never owned a tablet before, and finally picked up a tf101 with keyboard for a sweet price on CL.. and I want to give this tablet thing a real fair shot. That being said, I have tinkered around with android cellphones for a while, Im not a 100% noob but not as clever as most of you guys.
anyways I want to cut down on the amount of reading to do and boy there is a bunch , its the same song for every device/vehicle I buy, Purchase product, then spend the next couple months reading your brains off on a forum related to the product. (need to cut down on the reading... gf always on my case lol)
What are the most popular mods, accessories , settings (I will check into all the various kernals and Roms myself) apps. What are some life changing functions I can perform with the tf101 that would make me wish I got into tablets a lot sooner?
pretty much, I like the device and it looks real sleek and cool... just not sure what to do with it now , lol.
thanks in advance
Must have for me - Root - install custom rom - install kernel.
My PERI tool makes this a one-click from latest stock. I highly recommend you skip all the issues people have with stock and go straight to a great rom like ARHD, AOKP, or Megatron. :]
Other - counterstrike mobile, yes
This can be tough to answer because Android, unlike granny smith, has many things to read about and tinker with. I have had the tab for a while and tried numerous different roms and kernels. Each have slightly different responses and it depends on your tinkering desire.
I push my tab to the limits and try to do everything it wasn't originally designed for. Unfortunately....a lot of reading.
At any rate, my life changing functions were very quick access to RDP and VNC to home computers. I can also view my home security video cameras from the tab.
SSH to my phone is another plus for me.
I'm still contemplating attempting to install Linux on the tab as well.
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I'm still contemplating attempting to install Linux on the tab as well.
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I have it installed in an image loop and up and running fine on my B80 SBK2. It is slow and doesn't have any sound and I can't figure out what to do next in terms of getting a decent speed from it because there is pretty much no information out there other than getting it running. I know decent speed is possible because I had a WebTop phone.
TomTcom said:
This can be tough to answer because Android, unlike granny smith, has many things to read about and tinker with. I have had the tab for a while and tried numerous different roms and kernels. Each have slightly different responses and it depends on your tinkering desire.
I push my tab to the limits and try to do everything it wasn't originally designed for. Unfortunately....a lot of reading.
At any rate, my life changing functions were very quick access to RDP and VNC to home computers. I can also view my home security video cameras from the tab.
SSH to my phone is another plus for me.
I'm still contemplating attempting to install Linux on the tab as well.
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haha, yeah I know what you mean... read read read, I should start hiring a forum assistant to scour message boards for me
anyways , I couldnt resist and already started reading and have rooted and installed rom... gonna try out some new kernals
but my main issue right now is ad-hoc.. Im trying to figure out if there is actually a real fix for it, but its all pretty confusing
I just made this thread regarding it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689658
Thing O Doom said:
Must have for me - Root - install custom rom - install kernel.
My PERI tool makes this a one-click from latest stock. I highly recommend you skip all the issues people have with stock and go straight to a great rom like ARHD, AOKP, or Megatron. :]
Other - counterstrike mobile, yes
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thanks thing o doom, the peri one click was a nice experience, liked the humor you through in there
bigjoe87865 said:
haha, yeah I know what you mean... read read read, I should start hiring a forum assistant to scour message boards for me
anyways , I couldnt resist and already started reading and have rooted and installed rom... gonna try out some new kernals
but my main issue right now is ad-hoc.. Im trying to figure out if there is actually a real fix for it, but its all pretty confusing
I just made this thread regarding it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1689658
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Tell me more on your tether issue. I tether the tf to my phone using built in tether function through the aopk rom. The tablet picks it up just fine. There is a lot of confusion between adhoc and infrastructure mode also but there are a lot of articles on the subject.
Define what you want to do and what way you want the data to flow would help out for a better answer I think.
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TomTcom said:
Tell me more on your tether issue. I tether the tf to my phone using built in tether function through the aopk rom. The tablet picks it up just fine. There is a lot of confusion between adhoc and infrastructure mode also but there are a lot of articles on the subject.
Define what you want to do and what way you want the data to flow would help out for a better answer I think.
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hey tom, I think I have solved my problem, I applied the suplicant fix that was in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438297
and it has been working since, I havnt used it too much yet but so far so good
was that what you were going to suggest to me?
My phone is a rooted tmobile vibrant running tmobile web , I dont have a native tether app on this rom and I didnt want to mess with my phone much either. (been over a year since I installed a rom or even wiped, its getting too old for me to want to invest time into it)
bigjoe87865 said:
hey tom, I think I have solved my problem, I applied the suplicant fix that was in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1438297
and it has been working since, I havnt used it too much yet but so far so good
was that what you were going to suggest to me?
My phone is a rooted tmobile vibrant running tmobile web , I dont have a native tether app on this rom and I didnt want to mess with my phone much either. (been over a year since I installed a rom or even wiped, its getting too old for me to want to invest time into it)
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I have heard this option many times but for quite some time ago when I was using Wifi tether for root users on the phone I had to select galaxy nexus cdma and netd master so the tablet would recognize.
Now things are becoming different such as the aopk rom and I use them on both the tf and my samsung fascinate. I stopped using the separate tether app since the built in function did all the same things.
I personally suggest a rom like this to make sure your phone and tablet can all peform the same functions.
Glad it worked for you though.
Hello developers!
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms, but I assure u that i read carefully all the related subject n still I couldn't find answers :/
I've been always an Apple person and I am really satisfied with the ease of use and performance, somehow whileI I was looking for a tablet to update my old iPad a friend of mine was able to convince me that I should get an Android, and I end up buying Asus Tf700, of course after hours n hours of reading reviews n stuff and on the paper it's waaaaaaaay better than any other tablet, even the new iPad!! But still, on the PAPER
I really disappointed with the performance and the terrible lag even with the simplest task (like scrolling down a website or pinch zoom in/out) and it keeps crashing and freezing for no reason
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android Iam really confused
Root, rom,flash,kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
I want my device to work like how they claim it should (ASUS ppl) .. very smooth with no lag or crashes .. but on the other hand i don't want to lose any of it's features (camera, GPS) .. should I update to jb? Should I stay with ICS?
N how??
Sorry for the long post!:cyclops:
dr.hawk said:
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms
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Yes, especially when someone does not even read the forum rules, the moderator's sticky thread and posts a question in "Development" instead of "Q&A".
dr.hawk said:
I've been always an Apple person ...
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android Iam really confused
Root, rom,flash,kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
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Yes, you made a mistake changing to Android. It's not (yet) ready for end users, especially the TF700. Return it as long as you can and buy the new iPad.
If you are just looking for a device without lags and stutters then go for iOS.
But if you want/have to do things iOS can't do then go for Android and search for solutions for lag or live with it.
Android is sure the best smartphone os (Widgets, Launchers ,Tasker, Swype,...) but on tablets... I really don't know.
I love my Transformer but I mostly use it for surfing and gaming so maybe the iPad would have been the better choice.
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Or don't by Asus... Get a Nexus 7 or 10.That's the route he should've taken. Asus just released a bad device. To sit here and say Android isn't ready for end users is bologna..
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Yes, especially when someone does not even read the forum rules, the moderator's sticky thread and posts a question in "Development" instead of "Q&A".
Yes, you made a mistake changing to Android. It's not (yet) ready for end users, especially the TF700. Return it as long as you can and buy the new iPad.
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Thank u mr.police officer, my bad
I am not going to return it, I just want it to work probably!
floyd0815 said:
If you are just looking for a device without lags and stutters then go for iOS.
But if you want/have to do things iOS can't do then go for Android and search for solutions for lag or live with it.
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Exactly, I want solution .. there are too many rome and stuff which says choose what suits u the most, but I have no idea what are they!!
I read in the forum that flashing and unlocking JB = losing camera and GPS functions .. what should I do? *Note I am still runnig ICS
dasunsrule32 said:
Or don't by Asus... Get a Nexus 7 or 10.That's the route he should've taken. Asus just released a bad device. To sit here and say Android isn't ready for end users is bologna..
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The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
I feel your pain. When I first moved over to an Android device, I was also confronted with similar issues. Yes, Android can be intimidating. However, once you get a handle of it, I assure you, you won't stop flashing different ROMs on a regular basis. First calm down and read through the following threads to get started:
[TOOL] TF700T ADB Tool [v4] flash recovery and more
[ROM][01/04/13]Baked Black Bean 6[JB 4.1.2]
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Thank u mr.police officer, my bad
I am not going to return it, I just want it to work probably!
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Look, to be honest, I think everyone has been frightened in the beginning with unlocking and rooting, but in the end the tf700 is a really easy device to learn it with.
There are some guides in the general section (where you should have posted this thread ) and this section here.
As far as performance, I can tell you now that there is no Rom that works better than CleanRom In heritance.
It is *very* battery friendly, is really performant (forget about iPad, after that Rom you'll have the advantages of Android sealed in a super speedy packaging)
However, if you really feel you don't want to unlock the device yet, you should indeed at least update the tablet to the latest firmware, since it has some improvements to it. (I don't know how much the improvement is on the stock rom, but Clean Rom Inheritance is based on stock and it works like a charm).
By the way, there are no custom roms for the tf700 that give up on the gps and camera features. All developers here are real pros, so don't worry
And last but not least; if you were to update to the latest firmware and feel it's too laggy, (many people have said so), you should consider unlocking your device to put CleanRom on it. It's basically stock, but much smoother, faster and has no bloatware
Good luck making your iOS friends Jelly (pun intended) of your tf700. I know I have
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The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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Have you bought the keyboard dock? And I still think the tf700 is better of the two, if only because of its looks and dock
I know you are taking about tablets but the title says android...
I own a 4s and iPad 3, back in June I bought the s3 and I was really impressed with what it can do but its lag and performance made me question it the same as you, having spent £540 on a buggy feeling device.
I finally got jelly bean on it, jelly bean combined with disabling some crappy Samsung bloat made the s3 faster and smoother than any apple device out there, my iPad and iPhone both feel laggy in comparison now.
I have never routed or flagged a rom though, completely stock.
Before long you will love jelly bean
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dr.hawk said:
Exactly, I want solution .. there are too many rome and stuff which says choose what suits u the most, but I have no idea what are they!!
I read in the forum that flashing and unlocking JB = losing camera and GPS functions .. what should I do? *Note I am still runnig ICS
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I just read this post so I'll quickly reply
By rooting and unlocking you will not compromise any of the camera qualities. It still works just the way it's supposed to on CleanRom (the rom I use) and I am pretty sure the developer of CM10.1 has it running too.
This device may not be what you expect it to be out of the box, but let me tell you.. The devs we have for the tf700 are all very talented and manage to get some impressive performance squeezed out of this device without resulting in battery drain.
You really can't go wrong chosing either CM10.1 or CRomI (as we call CleanRom Inheritance)
As for the options you can choose while installing CRomI, they are mainly
- the kernel: do you want to keep everything close to stock, resulting in better battery life, and no overclocking? Or do you want a tweaked kernel (Clemsyn) which means even better performance, without taking too much of a hit on battery life. The latter is overclocked. If you still don't know what to choose: I have recently gone back to stock since it's just a tad friendlier for the battery and CRomI is smooth enough as it is
- Apps: select which apps you want preinstalled in your rom and which you don't want (little tip: always make sure the Play Store is checked: it's a vital app to install other apps with and it's a pain in the @$$ to install it from somewhere else if you want to keep it up to date
This method of building your personal rom on the spot is handy to deselect the bloatware you don't use (eg. Asus screensaver) and select the 'bloat' you like (eg. Supernote)
- Tweaks: I usually select the all, because the make the device even smoother and faster
By the way: in misc apps you'll have an app called Titanium Backup: that app keeps your data while switching Roms and is a nice way of making sure you'll keep your progress in games
I should say though: even though I've never tried Cm10.1, I am sure it's a great rom and I don't want to force you or anyone else to only look at Cromi, since CM10.1 has its own advantages
Just have a look for yourself and if you have any further questions, you now know where to post them (either Q&A for actual questions or general for remarks and findings).
The development section is used solely by developers of Roms, mods and kernels to share their creations with the world
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The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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Dr. Hawk, I know that reading these replies still hard for you as far as "what next" and "how". I'm sure that after you done all the steps below, you will find out the grass does look greener on the other side (IOS vs Android). With Android you could do more...a lot more compared to ipad. You just need to take ONE step at a time and within a few days you should have a smile on your face. There are plenty of people here ready to help noob(beginner) like youseft. Also I would like to mention that unlocking your device will void waranty, but in my opinion, if you don't do it, you will not happy with your device and eventually you're not going to use it, so it useless anyway. Let us know and please post update here so we can proceed accordingly. Here are the steps:
1. Unlock your device (download Asus unlock tool app and run it. This needed in order to install custom rom/kernel)
2. Flash custom recovery (there are 2 to choose from TWRP and CWM. I recommend TWRP for noob, it just easier with nice big User interface)
3. Use TWRP or CWM to flash your favorite custom rom (If you want trouble free, full stock features, CleanRom is the one to use)
That's all my friend. While you're performing these steps you're going to feel good about yourself and rewarding. When you are ready to go, just post here and we will walk you through, step by step. Once everything is done let us know if you do smile at the end and "no regred" that you picked Android and tf700. Cheers!!!!!!
I'm a flasher since I got my first android device and I have to say I don't want to have an iOS device because of it's performance! If you have a good ROM (and on my TF300T GPU/CPU OC a bit) you will get the same system performance and way more cusomization options - only problem for me is that a friend from my class has an iPad and uses it for school - there I just see the disadvantage of Android Tablets - except system apps you just don't have many apps for productive work that are optimized for tablets - including Dropbox(!!) that are way better optimized on iOS...
But I think in 1 or maybe 2 years it will be like with phones that Open Source (Android and maybe then also Ubuntu if they take the step for tabs too) will be sold more than iPads and with this the apps will also get optimized better :good:
atm I can just cry because of a friend made an own app for iOS to edit his scaeed books etc. and I can just open them with a non-optimized Adobe PDF Reader
so if you want now Custom ROM too, have a look at this guide and follow the steps unlock your bootloader, Flash recovery (I recommend TWRP!) and then go to the ROM you want (I recommend stock based: Clean ROM or AOSP based which means more customization options: Baked Blackbean) and install it with the installation instructions there - if you then still have questions ask in Q&A section because here it is only development section
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Hello developers!
First i know how much u hate it when someone just post a new thread without checking the fourms, but I assure u that i read carefully all the related subject n still I couldn't find answers :/
I've been always an Apple person and I am really satisfied with the ease of use and performance, somehow whileI I was looking for a tablet to update my old iPad a friend of mine was able to convince me that I should get an Android, and I end up buying Asus Tf700, of course after hours n hours of reading reviews n stuff and on the paper it's waaaaaaaay better than any other tablet, even the new iPad!! But still, on the PAPER
I really disappointed with the performance and the terrible lag even with the simplest task (like scrolling down a website or pinch zoom in/out) and it keeps crashing and freezing for no reason
Everyone here recommends rooting and unlocking, and since this is my first Android I am really confused
Root, rom, flash, kernel, unlock, OTA .. bla bla ...too much complicated info and procedures for a noob!!
I want my device to work like how they claim it should (ASUS ppl) .. very smooth with no lag or crashes .. but on the other hand i don't want to lose any of it's features (camera, GPS) .. should I update to jb? Should I stay with ICS?
N how??
Sorry for the long post!:cyclops:
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What I take from your displeasure is the recurring "Android is open source for the customizer and this I don't want."
So like the previous comments I would vote for a return to iOS.
iDevices are very well designed and usable.
So if your user experience has been less than pleasing with Android I wouldn't stick with it.
iOS devices are made for those who would like ease of use and having everything done automatically for them, and don't want to bother with things like settings and customisation and freedom of decision. If you're used to having everything done for you, stick with it. Changing to a system that requires you to manually do things for yourself when you don't want to is not going to make you very happy.
Apple is Use, don't Think.
Android is Think, don't just Use.
If you're used to the ease and smoothness of iOS, and were perfectly happy with the system, you're not going to like Android. Because Android isn't meant as an end-user OS.
Now, regarding flashing. I'm not going to try it on my tablet at all until the warranty has passed. The store I bought it from is not exactly know for its excellent customer service, and it updated to .30 before I heard about backing it up.
Is there a solution? Yes, get an iPad. The TF700 has some serious I/O issues which cause lag, but even if you're using the best of the best Android tab (whichever one that may be) you're still going to experience crashes, simply because of the customisation options. That's why iOS 'never' (ahem, hand me one, it'll crash.) crashes, you can't customized so there's no conflicts.
Don't get me wrong, I have an iPod 5th gen and love it (if Apple's warranty wasn't so horrendous...), and as a designer I appreciate the marketing and design behind iOS, but as a user I want to make my own choices, and I absolutely detest anything that goes automatic or makes its decisions for me.
That's not strictly true with newer devices.
Both my iPad 3 and iPhone get more app crashes and ui/keyboard lags than my stock int galaxy s3, which performs faster and smoother with everything except the dialer. Since using the s3the iOS screen doesn't seem as smooth as it used to, very slightly choppy moving between 2 app pages.
I use Nova launcher and it is perfectly smooth, fast and since the upgrades to jb 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 not a single crash or FCC, though on ICS there were many.
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The harm has been done my friend .. but u r right, Nexus 10 would have been a better choice though
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+1 on nexus 10. I have both and even with custom rom the tf700 is not as smooth as the n10. No tweaking necessary. How come you can't return it?
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adelancker said:
Have you bought the keyboard dock? And I still think the tf700 is better of the two, if only because of its looks and dock
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first, thank u man! I decided to unlock and root my device!
I haven't bought the dock, maybe next step
These are really useful information, I decided to unlock, update to JB and to root .. :highfive:
I am going to start tonight, right after gym!
special thanks to:
-angel*
buhohitr
adelancker
cheers!! :highfive:
dr.hawk said:
These are really useful information, I decided to unlock, update to JB and to root .. :highfive:
I am going to start tonight, right after gym!
special thanks to:
-angel*
buhohitr
adelancker
cheers!! :highfive:
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Thats great news!
Don't hesitate to ask explanation when you don't get a step in the walktrhoughs.
They are usually written by people who are experienced using Android for people who are somewhat experienced as well So for a complete newcomer to the Android platform, I can imagine you'll ask yourself some quesitons later
Hi. I've been referring to xda for a couple years now, and only recently decided to become a member of the forum. You guys have helped me out a lot over the last few years, with my devices. And now I've got a tough question. I've been reading as many threads related to the Asus zenpad z580c as I could, having already done the root provided by madsquabbles. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/zenpad-s-root-achieved-t3160422)
And that worked beautifully. I've already removed or frozen as much of the blaotware as I possibly could, and changed to Apex launcher, but I want more customization. I was hoping someone got Cyanogenmod, or dare i ask, Windows working on a zenpad. (once a windows fanboy, always a windows fanboy?) I would be open to just about any custom ROM solution that will remove all the trash bloatware. This ZenUI thing really bugs me, having upgraded to the zenpad from a Asus Nexus 7 which had more or less NO bloatware. At least none that couldn't be removed. But my ZenPad has 2GB of ram, and even with "Don't Keep Activities" enabled, it almost always has over a GB used. I would love to unlock the full potential of this tablet, but the bloat from ASUS is muddling the experience. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. You can also reply assuming I have a moderate skillset when it comes to this sort of thing, having custom flashed my nexus 7 many times and already flashing root access to this one after only having it for a week. Thanks!
Nothing?
it's been about a week now. I guess no one has the zenpad. It's got good hardware for the price, so this suprises me. Oh well. If anyone does have a suggestion or a thread they want me to look at, send me an email at [email protected], or add me on skype: theimmortalryu. I would really like to be able to tap into the real power of this device...
I just saw this post. Yeah, I agree with you. There is a lot of quality behind the tablet, but some custom roms could fix problems with the stock rom that hasn't been fixed in quite a while. I am tempted to return the tablet because I can't seem to find any roms and there is no signs that these problems are going to be fixed in the future. I just don't want to drop 300 dollars on a tablet if there is no hope to have the device updated any time in the future. Anyways, I just wanted to know if you had any updates on this situation even though it is quite a while later.
I assume it won't be too hard to port CM for ASUS zenfone 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/zen...-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1-nightly-t3164144) to ZenPad S 8 Z580CA (the 4GB version), as the two share the SOC and ram. And from there, the ZenPad S 8 Z580C (2GB version) should only need some small changes.
I own a zenfone 2 and am happy with CM 12.1. CM 13 is also available for it, but I think it will take a bit more time to be stable. The devs are very active so things look good. I don't own zenpad so I can't help on porting, but if anyone want to try, feel free to ask questions.
I want to give this a little bit of a bump.
This is the 2nd tablet I've ever owned, the first being a Nexus 7, and I'm definitely loving this thing. I don't like all the bloatware, but I don't mind the ZenUI so much. Just wish there was more themes, looks, and some more customization. I'm very satisfied with this, but would really like additional flexibility to it.
I really don't have the knowledge or skill to develop these sort of things, or I may try myself. On that note, much respect to the developers here who keep all of us updated on the devices we have that have so much support. My phone wouldn't be as awesome as it is now without all of you. Maybe I could learn...if I made the time to do so.
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I assume it won't be too hard to port CM for ASUS zenfone 2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/zen...-unofficial-cyanogenmod-12-1-nightly-t3164144) to ZenPad S 8 Z580CA (the 4GB version), as the two share the SOC and ram. And from there, the ZenPad S 8 Z580C (2GB version) should only need some small changes.
I own a zenfone 2 and am happy with CM 12.1. CM 13 is also available for it, but I think it will take a bit more time to be stable. The devs are very active so things look good. I don't own zenpad so I can't help on porting, but if anyone want to try, feel free to ask questions.
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You may be right sir, after doing some research, I've found out that the Zenpad S (2GB ram version) is nearly Identical to the Zenphone 2 (2GB ram version) with the only difference being the Tab has an Intel atom Z3530 CPU and the Phone has Intel atom Z3540 CPU, both CPUs are clocked at 1.8GHz and the same can be said with the 4GB versions of the Tab and Phone, CPU's being slightly faster on the 4GB ram versions but still following the whole scheme of the phone having the next model up processor than the tablet but both are still clocked the same. With all of this being said I feel like a port from the Zenphone 2's to the Zenpad S', would work phenomenally, I've built custom Cyanogen for a few phones before but never ported, I've been looking it up on CM's wiki but im at a loss(not enough coffee maybe? it is early in the morning). I own a Zenpad S 8.0 Z580C and would love to bring CyanogenMod to this device.
There is an experimental git repository by XDA developer thunderger: I cannot post URLs yet, just search for the device model name 'asus p01m'
Concerning the bootloader (which you can check from 'adb reboot fastboot', or rebooting while pressing power + vol up), Asus has provided an 'unlocker' utility for instance for the ZenPhone 2 ZE551ML, which seems to have basically the same SoC hardware: see i.e.:
For this tablet, the kernel source and some image versions seem available from the corresponding Asus HelpDesk page; but no unlocking utility yet.
Hope it helps! It would be great to debloat these nice tablets for good.
thanks for the info, imma get searching and see if i can find anything useful.
EDIT: I found thunderger's git hub repo but its for the p01ma and not the p01m but hopefully since they are so similar it wont take much effort to get it working.
Naylo540 said:
thanks for the info, imma get searching and see if i can find anything useful.
EDIT: I found thunderger's git hub repo but its for the p01ma and not the p01m but hopefully since they are so similar it wont take much effort to get it working.
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I've managed to prepare a debloated stock ROM from the original by Asus, and reflash it. A first step in the desirable direction!
How does one check non-destructively whether the stock bootloader is locked?
amrmo said:
I've managed to prepare a debloated stock ROM from the original by Asus, and reflash it. A first step in the desirable direction!
How does one check non-destructively whether the stock bootloader is locked?
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to check the bootloader lock status turn your device off, wait 5 seconds, press and hold pwr+vol up untill it brings you to fastboot, you'll see:
droidbootversion: a# (mine is 5)
buildnumber:devicescurrentupdatenumber
security:a# (mine is 1)
the "Security" parameter is what tells you your bootloader lock status.
if im not mistaken 1 is locked and 0 is unlocked.
Also, great job on the debloated ROM, but we need to be very careful which software we disable because I deleted Tru2Life and it started giving me HUGE graphical glitches such as Vsync got disabled, my lord was the screen tearing horrid, what appeared to be dead pixels started popping up everywhere, I thought i borked it but then installed the Tru2Life apk from the latest update and it was fixed, So im really starting to think the at least some of the GPU setting or drivers (modules? idk what ever the linux version of drivers are) are contained or hard coded into that app. Do you have Tru2Life on your debloated stock ROM? and does it show the same results? im just curious because if it was doing that on my tab but no one else' there is probably something wrong with my tab.
We also really need a working custom recovery that isnt a tethered recovery, then im sure a lot more devs would jump on board with this device.
Just reading through this thread and I love that anyone is giving this attention.
Any other luck porting over CM to the p01ma or the p01m? I would kill to get Marshmallow on this thing, and since the internals are so similar to the Zenfone 2 I'm still holding out hope for my p01ma.
Thanks in advance!
I am a bit dissapointed since none of the zenpad tablets have their own subforum, even when almost any other device in the world have one. Also, as of today, I read there is a CM13 nightly for Zenpad 8 (Z380KL), which is also said to be officially updated to marshmallow
glaudrem said:
I am a bit dissapointed since none of the zenpad tablets have their own subforum, even when almost any other device in the world have one. Also, as of today, I read there is a CM13 nightly for Zenpad 8 (Z380KL), which is also said to be officially updated to marshmallow
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I'm disappointed as well - I have the Z580CA-C1-BK 8" 64 GB version and I love just about everything about it apart from the massive bloat it came with.
Looks like it will never get marshmallow either or even 5.1 lollipop for that matter...
For me it's more or less the same as for Ryuhouji. I got a lot of useful information out of the xda forums for a longer time for all the devices I had so far. When I gave up using my old Archos 80 G9 tablet as the hardware was no longer powerful enough and bought a Z850CA (model number P01MA) I was tempted by the quite powerful hardware and did not expect that Asus would not update the device to Marshmallow, so I am also disappointed, and even more as so far they is no custom ROM.
For the Archos tablet there were some custom ROMs, the latest even was a CM12.1 version, and a forum. I can't understand why for the Zenpad S 8.0 there is no forum.
I will wait a bit longer whether there is any hope for an unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery and a custom ROM, otherwise the only thing I could do will be to root the device and get rid of some bloatware. However not getting security updates from Asus for this device is unbelievable.
CM (13?)
Hi!
I would really love to have a full-functional CyanogenMod for this tablet. And a section on XDA, too!
If my opinion matters, and if i can do something for someone, i'll be glad!
Meanwhile, here:
(www).unlock-bootloader.download/2016/08/asus-zenpad-s-8-0-z580c-7366.html
there is something else about unlocking the bootloader. Does it help anyone? Does it work? I cannot try.
Thanks for everything!
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hi folks,
I've recently found debloated rom here -(forum)xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-debloated-asus-zenpad-s-8-0-64gb-t3445651
Dechev86 said:
hi folks,
I've recently found debloated rom here -(forum)xda-developers.com/android/development/rom-debloated-asus-zenpad-s-8-0-64gb-t3445651
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Very well!! it's a very appreciated start!!
Have you tried it?
And, is it possible to go back? (just in the remote case asus decide to go to marshmallow, you know...)
Is anyone interested in this? Asus upgraded!
http://www.androidworld.it/2016/09/14/asus-zenpad-s-8-0-marshmallow-426062/
AndreaKPiermarteri said:
Is anyone interested in this? Asus upgraded!
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I installed this update to Marshmallow. It's like a whole new tablet, the main problem I was having of it over aggressively closing background apps is gone.
It won't be an OTA update, you need to download it from there and have the zip file on the root of your storage.
wats2u said:
I installed this update to Marshmallow. It's like a whole new tablet, the main problem I was having of it over aggressively closing background apps is gone.
It won't be an OTA update, you need to download it from there and have the zip file on the root of your storage.
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good! i am almost satisfied too with this update. Only on thing: do you (or anyone reading this) use Google Inbox? I experienced sudden shut down of the app while using, many times and constantly; google simply said "it's asus fault".
Anyone having any idea?
Hi All,
I just had a very general question. I am wondering since the release of Marshmallow on some other devices, does anyone have any plans on making a release for the TF700?
I am only asking out of curiosity as I am perfectly happy playing around with all the great roms here. Currently using Zombie-pop.
Thank you
I am in no way a developer, but I can say that from my interactions on this site, the answer is probably a no. There are just too many new options out there with better hardware to customize. Although, all it takes is a small group of talented individuals to love this device enough to port or make a new ROM! Which I am sure all current tf700 users would be totally psyched for.
I think the days of chasing the latest and greatest are over for this tablet.
@hardslog has Omni 6.0 booting on this device but he says it's an ugly hack: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63895936&postcount=3355
Focus for the devs is elsewhere by now which is understandable. I think they tickled the best performance possible out of this hardware quite a while ago..
For people who still love this tablet (and I do) and plan to use until it dies a natural death it is time to settle on your favorite rom, set it up to your liking and maintain it.
For me that is CROMi-X. Yep, not very sexy since the last version is JB, but heck - it works very very well.
I am currently working with @LetMeKnow to incorporate his latest tweaks into CROMi-X 5.4, keep your eyes peeled if you're interested, we'll start a new thread once it is done
I have been running this version for a couple of weeks now and I do not miss Lollipop one bit....
berndblb said:
I think the days of chasing the latest and greatest are over for this tablet.
@hardslog has Omni 6.0 booting on this device but he says it's an ugly hack: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63895936&postcount=3355
Focus for the devs is elsewhere by now which is understandable. I think they tickled the best performance possible out of this hardware quite a while ago..
For people who still love this tablet (and I do) and plan to use until it dies a natural death it is time to settle on your favorite rom, set it up to your liking and maintain it.
For me that is CROMi-X. Yep, not very sexy since the last version is JB, but heck - it works very very well.
I am currently working with @LetMeKnow to incorporate his latest tweaks into CROMi-X 5.4, keep your eyes peeled if you're interested, we'll start a new thread once it is done
I have been running this version for a couple of weeks now and I do not miss Lollipop one bit....
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Better than Zombi-Pop? It's pretty buttery. Not perfect, but faster than Crombi-KK. Hmm. I may have to think about flashing it once/if I tire from Zombi-Pop.
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Better than Zombi-Pop? It's pretty buttery. Not perfect, but faster than Crombi-KK. Hmm. I may have to think about flashing it once/if I tire from Zombi-Pop.
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I never said "better"
"Just as well - maybe even better" is as far as I am willing to go :cyclops:
Going back I just realized: I really liked the JB Asus UI! And some of the tweaks we lost with KK and LP. Like remapping the power button to forward delete, Keyboard manager which lets you assign different keyboards for landscape, portrait, hardware kb, the choice to go back to the 4.1 UI with the home buttons on the left...
It could be just nostalgia... After all it's that time of the year where you look back and reflect, don't ya? :angel:
Dont belive the nay-sayers...
bigbasshb said:
Hi All,
I just had a very general question. I am wondering since the release of Marshmallow on some other devices, does anyone have any plans on making a release for the TF700?
I am only asking out of curiosity as I am perfectly happy playing around with all the great roms here. Currently using Zombie-pop.
Thank you
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Im not sure why some of the above people posted that this tablet has reached its limit. I just downloaded the KatKiss 5.1.1. Not Marshmellow but has built in SPLIT SCREEN! That is the magic for me to use this tablet as a front like productivity device for my job.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf700/development/katkiss-5-1-1-tf700-t3166232
As much as I loved the Crombi line and still revere Josh and SDbags for their work, I jumped the shark and switched to this ROM.
I benchmark well on this and my I/O memory hasnt missed a beat...
I thought they were designing newer versions of Android to run on devices with less hardware requirements? To help minimize the "fragmentation" of the os and hopefully bring manufacturers to update the devices faster etc. I'm aware our device is hindered unless Nvidia updates the Tegra3 drivers. Someone will probably find a way to port it over. May not be a top priority of developers but as a hobby, the challenge may be taken up.
Well I guess we have our answer. http://forum.xda-developers.com/transformer-tf700/development/rom-t3282166 [ROM][MM 6.0.1] [ KatKiss - KatshMallow #012]
Thank you for all the replies.
Awesome. timduru is an excellent rom builder for the Transformer series.
Flash KatKiss 6.0. You won't be sorry. Great ROM. It's up to version 18