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VMWare For Mobile Devices Lets You Run Windows and Android Simultaneously

Man, I can't even believe VMWare is playing with a mobile hypervisor that's already this functional.
Perhaps the crowd hoping for a way to run Windows Mobile on the Dream will be able to at some point without giving up the awesomeness that is android.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5160685/vmware...ts-you-run-windows-and-android-simultaneously

awsome!!!!

Now that is interesting. I wonder which manufacturers will pick up on this...

alapapa said:
Man, I can't even believe VMWare is playing with a mobile hypervisor that's already this functional.
Perhaps the crowd hoping for a way to run Windows Mobile on the Dream will be able to at some point without giving up the awesomeness that is android.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5160685/vmware...ts-you-run-windows-and-android-simultaneously
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Sadly, if you mean what I think you mean, I don't think it's going to happen. I may be wrong but I don't think a hypervisor would be applicable by the community, and would need to be put in place by the manufacturers. This may be different for us with total access to everything on the phone, but I'm not sure how far "total" access goes.
It would be rather cool to be running Windows on a mobile, though... And considering Win7 is adding in some rather mobile-friendly features I must admit that'd be awesome

My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
A more appropriate application of virtualization is testing of new/customized versions, i.e. testing cupcake on the hardware without compromising existing installed version.

personally, i'd love to have windows installed. i'd just it like she said in the video; windows for work, android for play
would be awesome.

lbcoder said:
My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
A more appropriate application of virtualization is testing of new/customized versions, i.e. testing cupcake on the hardware without compromising existing installed version.
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keep an open mind.
i'd, personally, love to run a tiny linux vm hypervisor stylie for numerous reasons

http://mobiledevdesign.com/software_design/open-kernel-labs-okl4-software-0521/

lbcoder said:
My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
A more appropriate application of virtualization is testing of new/customized versions, i.e. testing cupcake on the hardware without compromising existing installed version.
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that's the point. android / linux is the reason for me to use the dream. would have never bought a wm device.

My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING
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Then just dont install it.... simple as that.
I think the choice to run whatever you want is a great thing.

lbcoder said:
My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
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You're so edgy. Tell me more about how Microsoft is the apparent Anti-Christ.

Debian instead of android... can it be done?

I have been a linux user for years, love it. so when i heard about android i bought a g1 as soon as i could... and honestly i HATE the java base... it sucks. For a while ii have been using debian on my sd and i think i have found a way to read ( but not send ) texts from within debian. any chance of developing debian to the point where we could use it as the primary system ? can the g1 g1 boot loader load it ?

No.........

damageless said:
No.........
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Thanks ****, how about some reasoning or logic ? nothing cannot be done it is just a matter of how much effort is required to achieve the desired result.

modem_over said:
I have been a linux user for years, love it. so when i heard about android i bought a g1 as soon as i could... and honestly i HATE the java base... it sucks. For a while ii have been using debian on my sd and i think i have found a way to read ( but not send ) texts from within debian. any chance of developing debian to the point where we could use it as the primary system ? can the g1 g1 boot loader load it ?
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Yes.
Seriously.
I haven't looked at Android in ages, but regardless - debian is just a packaging and deployment system. It has little to do with the actual code and configuration of what is deployed in the end. It's work, but it's trivial work.
As for your disdain for the Java - how about some elaboration there? Do you really think you feel a performance hit?

i do really feel that java does slow the system down for one, and second, i don't want to learn another language...

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no..............

yes, the bootloader will load it just fine.
i have played with nothing but debian on my phone... although, it's fairly useless.
until someone reverse engineers some way to talk to rild and control the wifi module and its userspace components you're pretty much tied to the java environment if you want... well, anything but a fancy embedded debian computer.
anyway, initramfs-tools package is your friend, as well as the android development environment. the bootloader will load the kernel + initramfs, and from there the sky (and linux) is the limit.

and i had to comment on the java performance... seriously, does anyone doubt that there is a *huge* performance hit? while a register based vm is fancy and fairly efficient as far as non JIT vm's go, it's still ridiculously slow and wasteful for the operating specs of this machine. 96mb of usable ram? dalvik forks off separate processes for each vm instances, so not only do you incur major pain for the COW operation, but enough changes in the working set to almost eliminate any helpfulness of COW. it's confusing as the point of zygote is to have a basically mostly started vm, but i'm not entirely sure how that's working in the background.
FWIW, when you clock this beast up to full CPU spec speed (528mhz) interface responsiveness doubles in fluidity.

Of course there is a huge performance hit, few people saying no are google's blind lovers.
Im sorry for this useless post..

The issue to me is the time it would take to develop debian to full working capacity with all the hardware. Possible? Yes. Fun? Depends on who you ask. Probability high for it to be actually completed better than Android? Doubtful.
JMO

i agree with you in most points, however, there are already standard non-android mobile linux stacks. the only hardware specific areas that need to be addressed are the wifi and telephony libraries.
the graphics are simple, it's a standard linux framebuffer, and an x server will run directly on it. if that's too heavy for the g1 (likely) directfb can also be used.
in the end - will it be better than android? probably not. too much development has gone into android.
will standard native apps utterly outperform android apps? believe it.
though, without either: a port of an x server to interface with surfaceflinger, or: a modified version of surfaceflinger to talk to an x server running on the framebuffer, you will never get the best of both worlds without some intermediate transport like vnc.
i'm in no way an advocate of 'debian only!' however, the poster of this thread was smacked down by some people who obviously had no real knowledge in the matter, so i sought to inform him.
the better direction i think, is someone to write a nice tight little c api for the binder surface flinger interface so people can start writing some more memory conscious native apps for people with rooted phones. streaming daemons, etc. while i think the stock development capabilities of the android platform is much better than the stock iphone's, a jailbroken iphone is 100% cooler than a jailbroken g1 at this point, but once there is enough community drive - that can change.

Booting into debian primarily which then runs android ontop of it should be possible, and then using android for things until more is developed on debian. Should work.
Still the original post was more about strictly debian only.

modem_over said:
Thanks ****, how about some reasoning or logic ? nothing cannot be done it is just a matter of how much effort is required to achieve the desired result.
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Temper tantrums aside, if you knew the answer to your question already what's the point of this thread? There's already a thread for people running debian on their G1, ask it there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&highlight=debian

nolageek said:
Temper tantrums aside, if you knew the answer to your question already what's the point of this thread? There's already a thread for people running debian on their G1, ask it there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&highlight=debian
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Guess he can't now - been banned. Shame, too, I am sure we'll miss his pleasant demeanor.

davecanada said:
Yes.
Seriously.
I haven't looked at Android in ages, but regardless - debian is just a packaging and deployment system. It has little to do with the actual code and configuration of what is deployed in the end. It's work, but it's trivial work.
As for your disdain for the Java - how about some elaboration there? Do you really think you feel a performance hit?
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OMFG yes there is a performance hit.

Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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Guess he can't now - been banned. Shame, too, I am sure we'll miss his pleasant demeanor.
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Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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cool i can't wait to try it out

modem_over said:
Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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Cool - that sounds great

modem_over said:
Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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any bootloader will work. there is no verification done by the bootloader during the bootstrap process, only during the flash process. flashing of the modified boot image with a debian initramfs instead of an android initramfs can be done from a functioning rooted android os, or from a test-keys enabled recovery partition. the method i used was to do a normal debian install on a partition of the sd card, installing initramfs-tools, building an initramfs, built a new boot.img with the stock android dev environment.

i've also compiled a kernel with full namespace support and a custom init that launches the android init and debian inits in separate namespaces allowing them to run concurrently. not much use since they can't talk to each other, but it is somewhat neat. virtuozzo like containers on your g1 =)

[Announce] Wing Linux 0.3 Released (CAB INSTALL!) (Linux and Android Development)

Project)
The Wing Linux project is happy to announce our 0.3 release! We're geared towards the development of Linux and Android on the T-Mobile Wing, HTC Herald, and HTC Atlas series of phones. This release features a much easier CAB file based installation! Simply install to Windows Mobile and you're good to go! It's also got a bunch of other goodies, like Android 1.5, fully working touchscreen / keyboard, and a better scaled display for QVGA. Previous problems with white screens on boot have been fixed!
The project is being hosted on Sourceforge at:
http://wing-linux.sf.net
The files can be gotten at:
https://sourceforge.net/project/platformdownload.php?group_id=253356
Discussion for this and future releases can be had at:
https://sourceforge.net/forum/?group_id=253356
See these threads for more info about the development leading up to this release:
Google Android for Herald and Tmobile Wing
Installable Linux Image for HTC Herald / T-Mobile Wing (UPDATED: Android Install)
Thanks to all who have helped in debugging, testing, and developing this release!

I have a question about the Virtual RAM. Does it just borrow some from the devices RAM, or does it use some of the space on the storage card as Virtual RAM?
Also does landscape work yet?
Still can't wait for Wifi and GSM! I love Android, but my contract doesn't expire for a while, so this would be awesome if it could be a viable replacement.

apreichner said:
I have a question about the Virtual RAM. Does it just borrow some from the devices RAM, or does it use some of the space on the storage card as Virtual RAM?
Also does landscape work yet?
Still can't wait for Wifi and GSM! I love Android, but my contract doesn't expire for a while, so this would be awesome if it could be a viable replacement.
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The virtual RAM uses space on the flash card, kinda like a Windows swap file. Landscape does not yet work, but it's on our list.
We'll probably have GSM working before wifi, so keep tuned for the development releases. We're hoping to get things complete enough to be a viable replacement for WM, but we've still got a ways to go.
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darkstar62 said:
The virtual RAM uses space on the flash card, kinda like a Windows swap file. Landscape does not yet work, but it's on our list.
We'll probably have GSM working before wifi, so keep tuned for the development releases. We're hoping to get things complete enough to be a viable replacement for WM, but we've still got a ways to go.
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That's okay, I use GSM more than WiFi. I assume GPRS and EDGE fall into that category? Will they all come together at once, or will we get one before the other? I'm not much of a developer but I'm still trying to learn these things.
Since it's able to do use RAM from a flash card, in theory, couldn't we push our wings to 1gb of RAM on Android? Or is there some sort of limit?
I haven't been able to test it yet because I don't have a large enough flash drive.
What about overclocking? Are there any problems with overclocking through Windows Mobile and then running Android? Or has that not been really tested yet.

apreichner said:
That's okay, I use GSM more than WiFi. I assume GPRS and EDGE fall into that category? Will they all come together at once, or will we get one before the other? I'm not much of a developer but I'm still trying to learn these things.
Since it's able to do use RAM from a flash card, in theory, couldn't we push our wings to 1gb of RAM on Android? Or is there some sort of limit?
I haven't been able to test it yet because I don't have a large enough flash drive.
What about overclocking? Are there any problems with overclocking through Windows Mobile and then running Android? Or has that not been really tested yet.
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The 64mb of RAM from the phone is still the main RAM. The swap "file" being used to get more RAM isn't very fast, so it doesn't really make it faster, it just gives it the ability to RUN programs without them being closed due to lack of memory.
There would be no point in having that much memory. As it stands, my G1 has never ran out of memory and I use a lot of third part android apps.
As far as overclocking, I would imagine it wouldn't work the normal way, as WM is kicked out when android loads and along with it the CPU controlling driver that controls the CPU speed.

ivanmmj said:
The 64mb of RAM from the phone is still the main RAM. The swap "file" being used to get more RAM isn't very fast, so it doesn't really make it faster, it just gives it the ability to RUN programs without them being closed due to lack of memory.
There would be no point in having that much memory. As it stands, my G1 has never ran out of memory and I use a lot of third part android apps.
As far as overclocking, I would imagine it wouldn't work the normal way, as WM is kicked out when android loads and along with it the CPU controlling driver that controls the CPU speed.
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Oh so when you run Linux it isn't like a virtual machine running in Windows? It actually takes full control of the CPU and RAM. So it wouldn't make a difference if I used a more RAM/CPU hungry ROM like JustHome rather than JustStable Micro?
What about the SD card, does Android detect the rest of the data on your SD card?

apreichner said:
Oh so when you run Linux it isn't like a virtual machine running in Windows? It actually takes full control of the CPU and RAM. So it wouldn't make a difference if I used a more RAM/CPU hungry ROM like JustHome rather than JustStable Micro?
What about the SD card, does Android detect the rest of the data on your SD card?
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That's right, Linux takes over completely. We've gotten testing from people running a wide range of ROMs, and nobody has ever had a problem. So, use what you like
As for the SD card, Linux detects and can use the entirety of the card. We haven't set up Android to be able to do that yet, but it shouldn't be hard.
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darkstar62 said:
That's right, Linux takes over completely. We've gotten testing from people running a wide range of ROMs, and nobody has ever had a problem. So, use what you like
As for the SD card, Linux detects and can use the entirety of the card. We haven't set up Android to be able to do that yet, but it shouldn't be hard.
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Just for curiosity sake... I realized that even if GSM worked, you couldn't really make a phone call without Sound/Microphone drivers. Does the Wizard team have anything that might help us here? I tried looking on the Sourceforge but it isn't listed under any Tasks.

apreichner said:
Just for curiosity sake... I realized that even if GSM worked, you couldn't really make a phone call without Sound/Microphone drivers. Does the Wizard team have anything that might help us here? I tried looking on the Sourceforge but it isn't listed under any Tasks.
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There is currently a sound driver but when it was originally ported to this build, it had a problem building. I'm not sure if darkstar has had time to look at it, again, yet.

Lol it seems like I'm the only one asking questions here. Has there been any testing of this using SDHC cards? Do they work properly? I'd like to get a 4 or 8gb card soon.

apreichner said:
Lol it seems like I'm the only one asking questions here. Has there been any testing of this using SDHC cards? Do they work properly? I'd like to get a 4 or 8gb card soon.
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Yes, it works fine with my 8GB SDHC. I am not feeling the idea that Android completely takes over my Windows Mobile. It is still too new at this point for me. Still, it's a really great job by the author. I been skimming through the chronicle thread for months and it has come a long way. From having to install Linux to a simple cab must be a lot of work. I hope this will lead somewhere great in the future. Best of luck.

apreichner said:
Lol it seems like I'm the only one asking questions here. Has there been any testing of this using SDHC cards? Do they work properly? I'd like to get a 4 or 8gb card soon.
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I run all this stuff on a 16gb card, so I'd say no problems at all.
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Alright, sounds good, thanks! Can't wait to give it a try!

very good work. Big thx to all the people involved in the deveolpment.
I thougt android would never run on the Herald but you proof me wrong.

Awesome stuff darkstar and ivan! It works very well, and picks up my lcd settings properly (I used to get a ghost image with the earlier kernel). Anyhow, I did notice a bit of flickering in the screen around the top-edge. Not sure what that is.
Quick question: I remember you saying dark, that it takes you almost a day each time to compile the kernel. Would it make a difference if we used a multi-core machine? Perhaps ssh to a very powerful server and build everything there?

Kernel Jag said:
Awesome stuff darkstar and ivan! It works very well, and picks up my lcd settings properly (I used to get a ghost image with the earlier kernel). Anyhow, I did notice a bit of flickering in the screen around the top-edge. Not sure what that is.
Quick question: I remember you saying dark, that it takes you almost a day each time to compile the kernel. Would it make a difference if we used a multi-core machine? Perhaps ssh to a very powerful server and build everything there?
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A multi-core machine I think could help...not sure how parallelizable the build is. It isn't the kernel that takes that long, it's the whole Android/Angstrom image. The kernel itself from start to finish takes about 10 minutes. 1 minute for incremental builds.
The server I'm using is a Celeron D 3.33gHz single-core originally designed to be a DVR/home entertainment system. Having a beefier processor would definitely help. Do you have something in mind?
- d

And I haven't done any of the coding. ^_^
It's all darkstar.

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A multi-core machine I think could help...not sure how parallelizable the build is. It isn't the kernel that takes that long, it's the whole Android/Angstrom image. The kernel itself from start to finish takes about 10 minutes. 1 minute for incremental builds.
The server I'm using is a Celeron D 3.33gHz single-core originally designed to be a DVR/home entertainment system. Having a beefier processor would definitely help. Do you have something in mind?
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I'm not sure if I could be of any help... I have some experience with Linux, unfortunately none with rebuilding kernels. My computers a Intel Core2Quad 2.5ghz 4gb RAM.
PM me if you want, I might need a crash course in it first though

apreichner said:
I'm not sure if I could be of any help... I have some experience with Linux, unfortunately none with rebuilding kernels. My computers a Intel Core2Quad 2.5ghz 4gb RAM.
PM me if you want, I might need a crash course in it first though
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It's not too hard to get into it. The wiki has instructions for downloading and building from source. Haven't tested them though, so you'd be a good guinee pig for that, if you're interested.
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darkstar62 said:
It's not too hard to get into it. The wiki has instructions for downloading and building from source. Haven't tested them though, so you'd be a good guinee pig for that, if you're interested.
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Why not? I'll give it a try. Unfortunately I still have no phone to test it on, so someone else would have to do that. I assume I'll need to install Linux on my PC of course?
Also where on the wiki can I find this? I can't seem to locate the instructions.

[Q] Ubuntu

Hey guys ive been really happy with my Android device the OS is wonderful but this whole open source thing has really been making me hate the whole world of Mac Windows ATT Samsung ie. big companies. Im currently downloading Ubuntu and was wondering if anyone else was running Ubuntu on their PC. If so how do you like it? Pros and Cons? i know it cant be perfect but im imagining ill like it way more than anything Mac or PC.

I think it's safe to say that a whole BUNCH of people on XDA use or have used Ubuntu.
Personally, I have xp on my primary laptop, but it has intel-vt which allows me to run a 64-bit ubuntu vm for compiling android when the mood strikes.
My experiences with it have been good. It's just like the first time you sat at a windows pc or mac. You just have to learn where everything is again. Also, it depends what kind of user you are and why you're trying linux at all... I started in to linux to build android and get more familiar with the shell and it's been a very good experience.
If you're just trying it to 'get free', then you should like it just fine. Looks nice, runs well, tons of software, package management that windows will (probably) never have... hope you enjoy!

you can try it without installing and see if you like it or not. personally, i think ubuntu is better than both os x and windows, but that's just my opinion.

I've studied linux at uni and I've used Ubuntu and CentOS many many times for servers and whatnot. While I know exactly the potential of linux I still don't use it as a primary OS.
I too don't like M$ and other big companies but I must say W7 is a pretty sweet OS. I game a lot so naturally I use W7 for that reason, but I would say Windows has nothing on Linux except maybe a user friendlier GUI.

Thanks guys i spent a day on it. and just my improved internet experience alone has pushed me to just install it completely. i figured now was the time i got a trojan horse that attacked my antivirus about a month ago and it wiped my whole pc had to format and lost a lot anyways i hadnt put anything back was keeping all my important stuff far away from my pc. so far im loving ubuntu its amazing for me.

Hydro360 said:
i know it cant be perfect but im imagining ill like it way more than anything Mac or PC.
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Oh but it can!! Or at least is the only thing that can get damn close depending what you are willing to learn about it
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Flashing Linux on a phone

So, first of all, I'm not entirely sure if this thread belongs in this category, but since it's something pretty wide, I guess it wouldn't hurt.
So I'm looking into flashing Linux into a phone (an sgs2, more precisly). I'm not talking about chroots under android and etc, I'm talking about actually flashing grub, the kernel and every other files that would usually come with a desktop distro. I'm toying a bit with Gentoo, see if I can recompile the whole thing for ARM before probably ending up bricking my device.
Anyways, I want to know if anyone has every tried flashing the whole thing into a phone, be it android, windows phone, etc, and what would you guys think about it.
I'll be trying with an android phone, since it pretty much uses the linux kernel, and so drivers shouldn't be too much of a pain in the ass to recompile. Might also keep the original boot loader until I feel good enough about completely eradicating the base software that the hardware was designed for.
any thoughts/advices/insults/mind farts on the subject welcome

did you hear about Ubuntu for android project? it's based on GB 2.3.6 but ATM i think the project is stuck. you can see more information on Ubuntu page I'm subscribed to information about it 'cause I will love Ubuntu running on my S2 too. but I heard nothing about other available project from other people
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Great Question! that's something about which I am interested as well. However, I think you might try looking around the "Hardware Hacking" thread or post your question there maybe? I'd like to, but I can't...since I am a NOOB!
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did you hear about Ubuntu for android project? it's based on GB 2.3.6 but ATM i think the project is stuck. you can see more information on Ubuntu page I'm subscribed to information about it 'cause I will love Ubuntu running on my S2 too. but I heard nothing about other available project from other people
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Yea that's awesome, I think I saw a couple of videos on youtube with some guys showing Ubuntu running on their phone

I will do it. I will post if something new comes. But I am happy right now with ICS/JB roms. I'll wait for their Ubuntu for android release if they decide to make possible Ubuntu for android phones
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crzr said:
I will do it. I will post if something new comes. But I am happy right now with ICS/JB roms. I'll wait for their Ubuntu for android release if they decide to make possible Ubuntu for android phones
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yea, i think the OP had in mind to bypass android? perhaps? and to use the phone's hardware/kernel parameters in order to boot linux onto it

ilmostro7 said:
yea, i think the OP had in mind to bypass android? perhaps? and to use the phone's hardware/kernel parameters in order to boot linux onto it
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Yeah, I meant getting ride of the underlaying OS and flash linux in place of it.
I think ubuntu uses chroot under android, I haven't seen anything about flashing it into the device.
What I have in mind is not just flashing it on android phones, but about any piece of hardware decent enough to run it (although the existing drivers on android phones would help).
Right now I'm toying a bit with the cross compiler, but I haven't really started any serious project about making it happen.

You can flash backtrack

Yea, that's why I suggested, initially, to take a look at the "Hardware Hacking" forum...otherwise, you can learn about Systems Programming --maybe a good start might be Programming Embedded Systems, 2nd Edition
With C and GNU Development Tools
By Michael Barr, Anthony Massa
Publisher: O'Reilly Media
Released: October 2006
Pages: 336
btw: sorry, I can't post links, but you can google on how to get started
also: HIT THE THANKS BUTTON IF I HELPED YOU, too

I've made several attempts at the chroot method of adding Linux to an android device with good results. My ultimate goal is to have my android device load and run Linux when i plug it into a docking station so i can use it as a computer. Back to the topic at hand, to add Linux as the native OS instead of android. I would start by building a root file system for android and attempt to copy it over the existing android rootfs. The process would be identical to building the chroot Linux rootfs. The next thing to do is to acquire the kernel source and re-compile it so you can have all of the modules / drivers you want. I would say that this would be standard and easy peasy stuff right up until you got to the X11 and video hardware acceleration.
If your going to try this, I would look for a device that has the following:
1) Kernel source available - make sure there are good instructions on how to configure and compile
2) Device is easily unlock-able and root-able
3) Has a micro SD card slot

So, first of all, I'm not entirely sure if this thread belongs in this category, but since it's something pretty wide, I guess it wouldn't hurt.
So I'm looking into flashing Linux into a phone (an sgs2, more precisly). I'm not talking about chroots under android and etc, I'm talking about actually flashing grub, the kernel and every other files that would usually come with a desktop distro. I'm toying a bit with Gentoo, see if I can recompile the whole thing for ARM before probably ending up bricking my device.
Anyways, I want to know if anyone has every tried flashing the whole thing into a phone, be it android, windows phone, etc, and what would you guys think about it.
I'll be trying with an android phone, since it pretty much uses the linux kernel, and so drivers shouldn't be too much of a pain in the ass to recompile. Might also keep the original boot loader until I feel good enough about completely eradicating the base software that the hardware was designed for.
any thoughts/advices/insults/mind farts on the subject welcome
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162316 this can help you?
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