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Man, I can't even believe VMWare is playing with a mobile hypervisor that's already this functional.
Perhaps the crowd hoping for a way to run Windows Mobile on the Dream will be able to at some point without giving up the awesomeness that is android.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5160685/vmware...ts-you-run-windows-and-android-simultaneously
awsome!!!!
Now that is interesting. I wonder which manufacturers will pick up on this...
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Man, I can't even believe VMWare is playing with a mobile hypervisor that's already this functional.
Perhaps the crowd hoping for a way to run Windows Mobile on the Dream will be able to at some point without giving up the awesomeness that is android.
http://i.gizmodo.com/5160685/vmware...ts-you-run-windows-and-android-simultaneously
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Sadly, if you mean what I think you mean, I don't think it's going to happen. I may be wrong but I don't think a hypervisor would be applicable by the community, and would need to be put in place by the manufacturers. This may be different for us with total access to everything on the phone, but I'm not sure how far "total" access goes.
It would be rather cool to be running Windows on a mobile, though... And considering Win7 is adding in some rather mobile-friendly features I must admit that'd be awesome
My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
A more appropriate application of virtualization is testing of new/customized versions, i.e. testing cupcake on the hardware without compromising existing installed version.
personally, i'd love to have windows installed. i'd just it like she said in the video; windows for work, android for play
would be awesome.
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My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
A more appropriate application of virtualization is testing of new/customized versions, i.e. testing cupcake on the hardware without compromising existing installed version.
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keep an open mind.
i'd, personally, love to run a tiny linux vm hypervisor stylie for numerous reasons
http://mobiledevdesign.com/software_design/open-kernel-labs-okl4-software-0521/
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My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
A more appropriate application of virtualization is testing of new/customized versions, i.e. testing cupcake on the hardware without compromising existing installed version.
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that's the point. android / linux is the reason for me to use the dream. would have never bought a wm device.
My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING
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Then just dont install it.... simple as that.
I think the choice to run whatever you want is a great thing.
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My god, keep your microshaft away from my android. I cant think of anything more disturbing or destructive than running that CRAP on ANYTHING.
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You're so edgy. Tell me more about how Microsoft is the apparent Anti-Christ.
I have been a linux user for years, love it. so when i heard about android i bought a g1 as soon as i could... and honestly i HATE the java base... it sucks. For a while ii have been using debian on my sd and i think i have found a way to read ( but not send ) texts from within debian. any chance of developing debian to the point where we could use it as the primary system ? can the g1 g1 boot loader load it ?
No.........
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Thanks ****, how about some reasoning or logic ? nothing cannot be done it is just a matter of how much effort is required to achieve the desired result.
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I have been a linux user for years, love it. so when i heard about android i bought a g1 as soon as i could... and honestly i HATE the java base... it sucks. For a while ii have been using debian on my sd and i think i have found a way to read ( but not send ) texts from within debian. any chance of developing debian to the point where we could use it as the primary system ? can the g1 g1 boot loader load it ?
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Yes.
Seriously.
I haven't looked at Android in ages, but regardless - debian is just a packaging and deployment system. It has little to do with the actual code and configuration of what is deployed in the end. It's work, but it's trivial work.
As for your disdain for the Java - how about some elaboration there? Do you really think you feel a performance hit?
i do really feel that java does slow the system down for one, and second, i don't want to learn another language...
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no..............
yes, the bootloader will load it just fine.
i have played with nothing but debian on my phone... although, it's fairly useless.
until someone reverse engineers some way to talk to rild and control the wifi module and its userspace components you're pretty much tied to the java environment if you want... well, anything but a fancy embedded debian computer.
anyway, initramfs-tools package is your friend, as well as the android development environment. the bootloader will load the kernel + initramfs, and from there the sky (and linux) is the limit.
and i had to comment on the java performance... seriously, does anyone doubt that there is a *huge* performance hit? while a register based vm is fancy and fairly efficient as far as non JIT vm's go, it's still ridiculously slow and wasteful for the operating specs of this machine. 96mb of usable ram? dalvik forks off separate processes for each vm instances, so not only do you incur major pain for the COW operation, but enough changes in the working set to almost eliminate any helpfulness of COW. it's confusing as the point of zygote is to have a basically mostly started vm, but i'm not entirely sure how that's working in the background.
FWIW, when you clock this beast up to full CPU spec speed (528mhz) interface responsiveness doubles in fluidity.
Of course there is a huge performance hit, few people saying no are google's blind lovers.
Im sorry for this useless post..
The issue to me is the time it would take to develop debian to full working capacity with all the hardware. Possible? Yes. Fun? Depends on who you ask. Probability high for it to be actually completed better than Android? Doubtful.
JMO
i agree with you in most points, however, there are already standard non-android mobile linux stacks. the only hardware specific areas that need to be addressed are the wifi and telephony libraries.
the graphics are simple, it's a standard linux framebuffer, and an x server will run directly on it. if that's too heavy for the g1 (likely) directfb can also be used.
in the end - will it be better than android? probably not. too much development has gone into android.
will standard native apps utterly outperform android apps? believe it.
though, without either: a port of an x server to interface with surfaceflinger, or: a modified version of surfaceflinger to talk to an x server running on the framebuffer, you will never get the best of both worlds without some intermediate transport like vnc.
i'm in no way an advocate of 'debian only!' however, the poster of this thread was smacked down by some people who obviously had no real knowledge in the matter, so i sought to inform him.
the better direction i think, is someone to write a nice tight little c api for the binder surface flinger interface so people can start writing some more memory conscious native apps for people with rooted phones. streaming daemons, etc. while i think the stock development capabilities of the android platform is much better than the stock iphone's, a jailbroken iphone is 100% cooler than a jailbroken g1 at this point, but once there is enough community drive - that can change.
Booting into debian primarily which then runs android ontop of it should be possible, and then using android for things until more is developed on debian. Should work.
Still the original post was more about strictly debian only.
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Thanks ****, how about some reasoning or logic ? nothing cannot be done it is just a matter of how much effort is required to achieve the desired result.
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Temper tantrums aside, if you knew the answer to your question already what's the point of this thread? There's already a thread for people running debian on their G1, ask it there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&highlight=debian
nolageek said:
Temper tantrums aside, if you knew the answer to your question already what's the point of this thread? There's already a thread for people running debian on their G1, ask it there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444419&highlight=debian
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Guess he can't now - been banned. Shame, too, I am sure we'll miss his pleasant demeanor.
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Yes.
Seriously.
I haven't looked at Android in ages, but regardless - debian is just a packaging and deployment system. It has little to do with the actual code and configuration of what is deployed in the end. It's work, but it's trivial work.
As for your disdain for the Java - how about some elaboration there? Do you really think you feel a performance hit?
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OMFG yes there is a performance hit.
Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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Guess he can't now - been banned. Shame, too, I am sure we'll miss his pleasant demeanor.
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Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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cool i can't wait to try it out
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Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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Cool - that sounds great
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Yes i do bring certain special qualities to this forum don't I. at any rate i have began to build a port to be able to run directly off the jf bootloader.
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any bootloader will work. there is no verification done by the bootloader during the bootstrap process, only during the flash process. flashing of the modified boot image with a debian initramfs instead of an android initramfs can be done from a functioning rooted android os, or from a test-keys enabled recovery partition. the method i used was to do a normal debian install on a partition of the sd card, installing initramfs-tools, building an initramfs, built a new boot.img with the stock android dev environment.
i've also compiled a kernel with full namespace support and a custom init that launches the android init and debian inits in separate namespaces allowing them to run concurrently. not much use since they can't talk to each other, but it is somewhat neat. virtuozzo like containers on your g1 =)
Hey, I just got my Droid Charge from my rooted dinosaur, the Droid Eris. I want to root my Droid Charge, but there is one problem, everybody uses Windows!!!
Anyway is there a way I can root my Droid Charge through Ubuntu or if there is a once click root method.
The nearest Windows computer to me would be the local internet cafe. But I can't use it to root my phone, lol. Also I won't be home from the next 6 months (where the other windows computer is) I am in Canada and soon I'll be going to Qatar. (don't worry I'm rich enough for the Canadian roaming fees, and I got my self a backup for Qatar)...
So, if there is anyone who got a solution, PM me please!!....thank you
Isn't there some kind of vm for linux? Just go through there, it's what macfags do.
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kvswim said:
Isn't there some kind of vm for linux? Just go through there, it's what macfags do.
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vm doesnt work with certain components of my cpu lol
What do you mean? I can run vm on an athlon xp (not that I use that computer, just an example). Just because your proc doesn't support hardware acceleration (VT-X or AMD equivalent) doesn't mean you can't run VMware.
And PS: CPU is NOT the same as "computer"
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Isn't there some kind of vm for linux? Just go through there, it's what macfags do.
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I lol'd
and yes this
Okay sorry....its not like i chose to have arthritis and i cant fully type out things. And yea theres always a error when i run vm on my computer (happy now?)
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Okay sorry....its not like i chose to have arthritis and i cant fully type out things. And yea theres always a error when i run vm on my computer (happy now?)
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There's IS a difference, i'm just telling you so people TRYING TO HELP YOU don't get confused.
Sorry I'm not an old man and don't have arthritis...
Ever tried looking up a tutorial on how to run it?
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never mind...ill just get a windows computer....
You could try Wine, but I have never had a lot of luck using it. Easiest method might be to borrow a family member's computer. Not ideal, I know.
Jason
you could keep a small partition on your harddrive with windows for stuff like that, its what I do
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You can use Heimdall for most stuff
Have you tried virtualbox for ubuntu?
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I'm about to dump Windows on one of my laptops for Linux (either Pinguy or Zorin), and as a test I ran Odin with Wine and booted up just fine while I was running a Live USB version of I forget which distro.
As long as you can run Odin, you can do anything with the Charge.
Has anybody on here run Odin fine without problems in wine?
I got it to boot, but I'm not brave enough to run my charge with it without some verification.
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I'm about to dump Windows on one of my laptops for Linux (either Pinguy or Zorin), and as a test I ran Odin with Wine and booted up just fine while I was running a Live USB version of I forget which distro.
As long as you can run Odin, you can do anything with the Charge.
Has anybody on here run Odin fine without problems in wine?
I got it to boot, but I'm not brave enough to run my charge with it without some verification.
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I've done it a few times successfully, I try not to because I'd rather just boot into my windblows partition and do it rather than take a chance bricking my phone if it doesn't finish... xubuntu here btw
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anoninja118 said:
I've done it a few times successfully, I try not to because I'd rather just boot into my windblows partition and do it rather than take a chance bricking my phone if it doesn't finish... xubuntu here btw
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That's just a lightweight version of Ubuntu right?
Hmmm, if it works than that's great. Still have me worried a bit though as my plan is to eliminate the windows partition. I have a small hard drive on this laptop, and Windows 7 eats it up.
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That's just a lightweight version of Ubuntu right?
Hmmm, if it works than that's great. Still have me worried a bit though as my plan is to eliminate the windows partition. I have a small hard drive on this laptop, and Windows 7 eats it up.
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yeah and I was the same way, I just keep a tiny 40gb or so windows partition to do random little things like Odin or to use a windows only program that I can't get to work on linux... as Imnuts stated heimdall will get the job done as well but seems like too much work, Odin's easier
Awesome, thanks for the help. Why did you choose Xubuntu? I can't decide which Distro I want. I am sure I will change it up every couple weeks. I am loving the world of Linux.
PeterGunz said:
Awesome, thanks for the help. Why did you choose Xubuntu? I can't decide which Distro I want. I am sure I will change it up every couple weeks. I am loving the world of Linux.
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I'm not a huge fan of Unity that seems to be standard with Ubuntu now, and as you said its just a little more lightweight and visually pleasing to me.. otherwise its pretty much the same, also I'm no dev or programmer I just prefer the simplicity, speed, and relative ease of use of linux more... your distro choice pretty much depends on what you're using it for as well as your level of linux knowledge, Ubuntu and its variants or Mint or Debian are all pretty straightforward and will get the job done
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I'm not a huge fan of Unity that seems to be standard with Ubuntu now, and as you said its just a little more lightweight and visually pleasing to me.. otherwise its pretty much the same, also I'm no dev or programmer I just prefer the simplicity, speed, and relative ease of use of linux more... your distro choice pretty much depends on what you're using it for as well as your level of linux knowledge, Ubuntu and its variants or Mint or Debian are all pretty straightforward and will get the job done
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Agreed with the speed. Doesn't seem to matter what distro I use, they are all so fast. I really can't believe how much faster they all are than windows. Haven't tried Debian, might give it a whirl. I have Mint on another Desktop and have yet to find anything it can't do.
Mint for gnome and pclos for KDE, But I also like KDE on Mint.
My one attempt to run ODIN in Virtualbox ended up with my Fascinate soft bricked.
The flash started fine but it seemed to choke on the serial port emulation based on the step it stopped on.
Since I keep a small XP partition I just boot into that.
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So, first of all, I'm not entirely sure if this thread belongs in this category, but since it's something pretty wide, I guess it wouldn't hurt.
So I'm looking into flashing Linux into a phone (an sgs2, more precisly). I'm not talking about chroots under android and etc, I'm talking about actually flashing grub, the kernel and every other files that would usually come with a desktop distro. I'm toying a bit with Gentoo, see if I can recompile the whole thing for ARM before probably ending up bricking my device.
Anyways, I want to know if anyone has every tried flashing the whole thing into a phone, be it android, windows phone, etc, and what would you guys think about it.
I'll be trying with an android phone, since it pretty much uses the linux kernel, and so drivers shouldn't be too much of a pain in the ass to recompile. Might also keep the original boot loader until I feel good enough about completely eradicating the base software that the hardware was designed for.
any thoughts/advices/insults/mind farts on the subject welcome
did you hear about Ubuntu for android project? it's based on GB 2.3.6 but ATM i think the project is stuck. you can see more information on Ubuntu page I'm subscribed to information about it 'cause I will love Ubuntu running on my S2 too. but I heard nothing about other available project from other people
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Great Question! that's something about which I am interested as well. However, I think you might try looking around the "Hardware Hacking" thread or post your question there maybe? I'd like to, but I can't...since I am a NOOB!
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crzr said:
did you hear about Ubuntu for android project? it's based on GB 2.3.6 but ATM i think the project is stuck. you can see more information on Ubuntu page I'm subscribed to information about it 'cause I will love Ubuntu running on my S2 too. but I heard nothing about other available project from other people
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Yea that's awesome, I think I saw a couple of videos on youtube with some guys showing Ubuntu running on their phone
I will do it. I will post if something new comes. But I am happy right now with ICS/JB roms. I'll wait for their Ubuntu for android release if they decide to make possible Ubuntu for android phones
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I will do it. I will post if something new comes. But I am happy right now with ICS/JB roms. I'll wait for their Ubuntu for android release if they decide to make possible Ubuntu for android phones
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yea, i think the OP had in mind to bypass android? perhaps? and to use the phone's hardware/kernel parameters in order to boot linux onto it
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yea, i think the OP had in mind to bypass android? perhaps? and to use the phone's hardware/kernel parameters in order to boot linux onto it
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Yeah, I meant getting ride of the underlaying OS and flash linux in place of it.
I think ubuntu uses chroot under android, I haven't seen anything about flashing it into the device.
What I have in mind is not just flashing it on android phones, but about any piece of hardware decent enough to run it (although the existing drivers on android phones would help).
Right now I'm toying a bit with the cross compiler, but I haven't really started any serious project about making it happen.
You can flash backtrack
Yea, that's why I suggested, initially, to take a look at the "Hardware Hacking" forum...otherwise, you can learn about Systems Programming --maybe a good start might be Programming Embedded Systems, 2nd Edition
With C and GNU Development Tools
By Michael Barr, Anthony Massa
Publisher: O'Reilly Media
Released: October 2006
Pages: 336
btw: sorry, I can't post links, but you can google on how to get started
also: HIT THE THANKS BUTTON IF I HELPED YOU, too
I've made several attempts at the chroot method of adding Linux to an android device with good results. My ultimate goal is to have my android device load and run Linux when i plug it into a docking station so i can use it as a computer. Back to the topic at hand, to add Linux as the native OS instead of android. I would start by building a root file system for android and attempt to copy it over the existing android rootfs. The process would be identical to building the chroot Linux rootfs. The next thing to do is to acquire the kernel source and re-compile it so you can have all of the modules / drivers you want. I would say that this would be standard and easy peasy stuff right up until you got to the X11 and video hardware acceleration.
If your going to try this, I would look for a device that has the following:
1) Kernel source available - make sure there are good instructions on how to configure and compile
2) Device is easily unlock-able and root-able
3) Has a micro SD card slot
So, first of all, I'm not entirely sure if this thread belongs in this category, but since it's something pretty wide, I guess it wouldn't hurt.
So I'm looking into flashing Linux into a phone (an sgs2, more precisly). I'm not talking about chroots under android and etc, I'm talking about actually flashing grub, the kernel and every other files that would usually come with a desktop distro. I'm toying a bit with Gentoo, see if I can recompile the whole thing for ARM before probably ending up bricking my device.
Anyways, I want to know if anyone has every tried flashing the whole thing into a phone, be it android, windows phone, etc, and what would you guys think about it.
I'll be trying with an android phone, since it pretty much uses the linux kernel, and so drivers shouldn't be too much of a pain in the ass to recompile. Might also keep the original boot loader until I feel good enough about completely eradicating the base software that the hardware was designed for.
any thoughts/advices/insults/mind farts on the subject welcome
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2162316 this can help you?
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Well, ubnuntu just made an annoucnement that they will have a mobile tablet and phone os, that will be matched with thier other versions so it is one os that will work on all your computing devices using all the same apps that you already run. They will also have the HTML 5 apps as part of this.
Just thought you guys might be interested.
I am very excited about this.
Sound off and let's discuss after you check out the video on the link below:
http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/phone
I see android becoming a GUI skin for Ubuntu. It's been nothing more than a matter of time before PC OS's merged with phone OS's . With some of the new hardware technologies almost ready for primetime our mobiles will take the place of PC/laptops in our lives. Desktops are evolving into more of a server role in the home. Appliances , home entertainment, environmental control will all be run from a central home super PC/server. The technology is out now but advances are coming that will make it more practical for the masses.
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I see android becoming a GUI skin for Ubuntu. It's been nothing more than a matter of time before PC OS's merged with phone OS's . With some of the new hardware technologies almost ready for primetime our mobiles will take the place of PC/laptops in our lives. Desktops are evolving into more of a server role in the home. Appliances , home entertainment, environmental control will all be run from a central home super PC/server. The technology is out now but advances are coming that will make it more practical for the masses.
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Actually it is the other way around.... in the video it was said that the ubuntu phone os will work with the android kernel, so it should work on any current android hardware, and should be very easy to implement it.
This is really because the android kernel is really the general linux 3.0 kernel.
I am going to work on getting this working on this phone, as soon they release the OS to everyone. I can see this taking this phone to where it should be as far as performance is concerned.
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Actually it is the other way around.... in the video it was said that the ubuntu phone os will work with the android kernel, so it should work on any current android hardware, and should be very easy to implement it.
This is really because the android kernel is really the general linux 3.0 kernel.
I am going to work on getting this working on this phone, as soon they release the OS to everyone. I can see this taking this phone to where it should be as far as performance is concerned.
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You are saying You can boot this version of Ubuntu with our stock moto kernel?
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You are saying You can boot this version of Ubuntu with our stock moto kernel?
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Not sure yet, but from the video in the link I posted toward the end, it sure sounded like that was the case. I am sure some work will have to be done, but it sounded promising.
I'm most interested in seeing how this turns out when you unleash your kung fu on it. My nexus 4 should be here soon, after it arrives my A2 will be at your disposal for any alpha testing. Then again my A2 has always been available for testing anything you or certain other devs come up with.
This is super sexy. I cannot wait for this to come out. I have been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu off and on for years now. This just made my day. I love the GUI. I wonder... What type of bootloader this will use. Some modified versions of Lilo, or Grub?
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This is super sexy. I cannot wait for this to come out. I have been using Linux, mainly Ubuntu off and on for years now. This just made my day. I love the GUI. I wonder... What type of bootloader this will use. Some modified versions of Lilo, or Grub?
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Prolly not going to be lilo, it has been a while since lilo was a default BL for linux. Grub, both in the the gui and text bootloaders has been the BL of choice for most linux distros for some time now.
I am guessing that if this works with the android kernel, that it might not use a separate BL for those devices, but I would guess that again grub would be on new devices that are made to run this by default.
I can see this taking this phone to where it should be as far as performance is concerned.
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I'm curious as to why you say this. Is there any particular reason that performance would be better with Ubuntu over Android? If the kernel is the same, it would seem to me that the performance level achievable would be the same with either.
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Prolly not going to be lilo, it has been a while since lilo was a default BL for linux. Grub, both in the the gui and text bootloaders has been the BL of choice for most linux distros for some time now.
I am guessing that if this works with the android kernel, that it might not use a separate BL for those devices, but I would guess that again grub would be on new devices that are made to run this by default.
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Cool.Since it is open source do you think the BL will be locked down? I'm actually kinda confused as to how this would work. Would we still have our locked down BL if we installed a port of the Ubuntu OS? Or would the Ubuntu OS totally replace everything?
It looks like the original phone this is made for is a galaxy Nexus, so.... We should be able to get this running on our A2 fairly easily.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/02/ubuntu-for-smartphones/
As to the person who asked about why I feel the performance will be better, is because of how linux itself and the apps that are used, use hardware, android itself does not handle apps talking to hardware very well, and tend to kill battery in the process much faster.
I run linux on a ton of my computers and devices, and I will tell you, I have a netbook running ubuntu and I get 13 hours on battery with it, where with any other OS I get maybe 6 hours. And yes it runs an atom processor, and I have been able to test running android on it, and ran very poorly as far as battery and performance was concerned, even with linaro running.
The ONLY reason we will not be able to run the true ubuntu kernel with this is thanks to motorola locking this thing down so tight that we can not run any other bootloader or kernel on this device.
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Cool.Since it is open source do you think the BL will be locked down? I'm actually kinda confused as to how this would work. Would we still have our locked down BL if we installed a port of the Ubuntu OS? Or would the Ubuntu OS totally replace everything?
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Sorry to say for our phone, we will not be able to run the whole thing. We will have to keep our bootloader and kernel, but basically run this from our /system partition much like flashing a ROM.
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Sorry to say for our phone, we will not be able to run the whole thing. We will have to keep our bootloader and kernel, but basically run this from our /system partition much like flashing a ROM.
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Thank you for clearing that up. I was thinking that was how it would be. I still can't wait to try this out!
This may be a dumb question.... but wasn't ubuntu designed to run on x86? How would it work on ARM?
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farshad525hou said:
This may be a dumb question.... but wasn't ubuntu designed to run on x86? How would it work on ARM?
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Ubuntu has come a long way. There are many different variations of it now. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/arm
WOW this is a real game changer here..... Have been thinking for a while what could be the next BIG thing looks like this is it..... Take a quad core with 2gb ram 32gb onboard and 32gb sd and this is going to be a beasted laptop in your pocket.....
Haha just read the other part of the page and it almost looks loke a direct quote.....
I don't know if I'm remembering correctly but wasn't Canonical working with Motorola on Ubuntu for Android? And wasn't even the phone they demoed it on in the video an Atrix 2?
They are obviously different projects as Ubuntu for Android was to allow the ability to boot into Ubuntu from inside android much like Jim's Webtop hack, but I just thought I should bring it up.
Generally speaking, I'm pretty excited about this too. I haven't been able to find any information on the ubuntu "dock ". Availability, price, inputs/outputs, etc. I think it will be awesome to have a dockable piece of hardware to run as a mobile or home device.
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Oh wow this is gonna be just amazing a true Linux mobile os I for one can't wait to load an Ubuntu based ROM onto my a2
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This is going to be so awesome if it really works. I'm already setting up a dev environment to port it to my tablet, where it will really be awesome.
EDIT: PS will it be able to run normal andriod apps too?