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I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
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I keep hearing about how when you pick a ROM, you need to decide on either vanilla ICS or the Asus flavor.
What things does the Asus ROMs have that Megatron and AOKP doesn't? Is it just the couple widgets/apps/wallpapers that you can download separately anyway or is there more to it?
Thanks for your input!
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The Asus based ROMs (I know of the two big ones, Revolver and Revolution HD) don't offer as many extras as the other ROMs that have e.g. a CM9 base. They may be a bit more stable, and they are not really different from the stock ROM (at least in terms of look and feel). What is unique: they have the original Asus customized settings, so they allow to Mao the mouse buttons, and have the extended notification area (both not present in stock ICS ROMs).
If you want to have the best of both worlds, I'd recommend the Megatron ROM which has a great set of nice options and tweaks (more than the standard Cyanogenmod tweaks), and also let you choose between ICS and Asus virtual buttons, and give you the Asus keyboard and the option to install Polaris Office, supernote, their live wallpaper and widgets...).
I loaded Revolver on mine and at first appearance, it looks basically the same. But as you use it, everything is smoother and faster. I went one step further and loaded a custom kernel by Guevor which made it smoother and faster yet. These 2 together have completely changed how I view & use my TF. Some people have had good results just by loading a custom kernel on the stock rom too. I would do a bit of reading through the forum to see what might work for you. Not every one has had good success when going the custom route, so do some digging and try to get all your questions answered before you start hacking.
You just lose a few ASUS customized settings, but you gain the AOSP settings, I like AOSP better, but some just don't like the feel:
E.G. Sense vs TouchWiz vs AOSP vs ??? vs Profit
Gummy ROM (nightlies) is my favorite AOSP rom so far. It's an AOSP rom with some features from CM9, some from AOKP, some of their own and some Asus stuff. Its the best of all the worlds.
Theres a link to my rom videos in my signature if it helps.
My 2 chosen roms are:
Asus based: Frozn by Jcarrz1 - theres a couple of little bugs and although its not fully completed, combine it with one of the overclock kernels and the speed is on a different level.
I posted up how to set it up in the Frozn thread. Hopefully Jcarrz is still working on Frozn as im sure if it turns out like Krakd then it will be sublime!. If its too much hassle then - Revolver for sure.
Aosp / Aokp: No question it would have to be Gummy nightly. Browsing speed is much faster imo than any of the TF roms, nice tweeks, the devs baked in some themes, stable.....it really is a must try. You also get the delight of the nyam cat but i wont spoil it for you. All i will say is you can switch it off in Gummy settings :victory:
Good for flashaholics with it getting almost nightly updates.
Everyones different and theres a rom for everyone.
Just make sure your backed up and read about how to get out of a pickle. Otherwise just give them all a go and see what you like.:good:
You may need to flash one of the Asus ones to get any updated firmware for the keyboard. I.m not sure the aosp ones will do that.
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Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
dman918 said:
Gummy has my attention. Does each update require a full wipe or just cache and dalvik? I do not want to have to do full wipes all the time.
I know I will most likely need to try all of these and see what I like most, but I'd prefer to have a good base to start from.
I pretty much only surf the web, get email, stupid stuff like that. Not really much for games outside of Draw Something, Hanging with Friends. Looking for a ROM that is "pretty" or "flashy". Needs to look good, flow quickly and smoothly when I use it, and is customizable so I can make it the way I want.
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with nightlies i think just wiping dalvik and cache will be fine
here is another rom to check out AOKPCB
looks really fancy basically is AOKP but themed. Haven't tried it yet though.
Im also in a situation on which rom to just stick with. Right now im using revolver because its based on stock firmware but i'm missing some AOSP. Was running Megatron a while back for a long time but i need a rom that gets updated every now and then.
Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
dman918 said:
Kinda feels like Megatron is laggier than the Asus ROMs. Anyone else find this? I did do a full wipe. Also, is there a way to increase the auto brightness value? It is awfully dim.
Otherwise, it is a great mix to get really everything that both variants have to offer. Really only missing the pretty power screen but everything else (and more) is there.
One hour later edit: This ROM is definitely laggy. I press to go into the menu and it's jerky. Really everything is... jerky. Ran a benchmark and had a good score (3200+) but the navigation throughout isn't fluid.
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I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
Valbowski said:
I am also getting lags on all aosp roms that I have tried so far. I am on a B70.
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I have a B70 running Steel Droid v2. It's an AOKP based rom and I'm not having any lag issues. It might not necessarily be a hardware thing. Have you tried a custom kernel that you can overclock? I keep it oc'd at 1200MHz because I, personally, haven't seen a noticeable difference when I set it at a higher frequency.
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I tried both Harmony v3 for aosp and Guevor 22.6 and get the same issues. I tried the new aokp Milestone 6 with both guevor 22.6 for aokp and Harmony aosp v3 but still get bad framerates in many games. One new observation from tonight: In the game "Siege Hero", if the option "Stretch to fill screen" is selected, I get bad framerates but great graphics. If I select "Zoom to fill screen", graphics are low res but everything is very fluid. This does not happen on asus based roms.
Another example of what I am getting is the game "Extreme skater" that does not offer compatibility choices, probably because it supports native resolution, but rarely stays fluid on aokp/cm9/aosp but runs great on asus based roms.
It looks like some other users are getting the same problems but we are not a lot complaining.
Any ideas?
I am on a B70KAS... TF101.
I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
U can go to other forum like i9000 and nexus S and ask this question there, too ...they r just for your own choice lol, just flash one u like
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I know. I can read. I have read OPs and most posts. I want to know what makes each ROM/port different. Each of them have almost same features and looks. I'm asking comparing CM9 vs Stock vs AOKP vs Slim vs Beam vs etc and cMIUI vs MIUI. I'm not complaining, just want people to share what make them choose one ROM over the other because all are smooth and fast and awesome and so on the same generic descriptions... Let's be honest, most of the has mainly same features, like to mod battery icon, clock, toggles, drawer, theme, lockscreen, some apps here and not there, different bootanimation, etc... you know what I mean. So what is it then? Please, elaborate some answers.
To me, there is a noticeable difference between all mentioned and RemICS and so with AOKPCB but mostly because of the theme/looks and some apps and few features.
I would like to read something else than just "X ROM is fast and smoother" and yes I know everyone is different so they get different experience with their ROM of choice, but what makes you choose a ROM over the other. That's the thing
No trolling allowed and it's not my intention to offend anyone. I appreciate all projects and stuff here, I'm not complaining. Just curious.
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They basically all come from the same base as far as Android OS goes, and as far as comparing no one can tell you what to choose. I know you are not asking for someone to choose for you, but that kinda is where the question leads. Compare them for yourself. See what you like. They all have their own flavor, mods, tweaks. Some are closer to stock, others are heavily modded. That's your answer in a nutshell. No one is gonna sit down and draw you up a chart of features for each rom.
@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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@dao
I can ask there but that's not my phone and that doesn't answer my question. It's obvious they are there for choice, how to choose then? Why? That's what I would like to read. BTW, thanks for updating RemICS.
@greg
I have used them all. That's why I'm asking.
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You just have to choose what you like and what works for you. It's that simple. Until Aries is released and we have an updated kernel, they are all about the same, but Aries will fix some issues. Like those blasted capacitive back lights timing out.
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What made you choose miui for your phone? Did you try different ROMs before?
@HKSpeed
Oh, I haven't updated that... I'm on CM9 at the moment. My ROMs of choice are Team Acid's. I have been using their work since Froyo so I'm biased. I was on AOKP but battery was a big issue for me, it drained very fast, so I went on CM9 to see how it works since most other ROMs are based on it. Thought it should be more simple, less tweaked. I have tried all, except Linaro and Provision. I like them all but somehow I can't notice difference between them except but a few little things here and there.
I was on MIUI because Dao kept updating it and fast. It was more advanced than other ports/ROMs, then I went on AOKPBC just to see and the theme was too heavy, awesome but not what I was looking for.
I'm not saying I will stay on CM forever, might go on a flashing rampage sometime soon. I know these are WIP that depend on kernel so until then I shall keep experimenting.
I know the others have said pretty much the same thing I am saying, but it comes down to a matter of choice. The ICS roms are all CM9 base if I am not mistaken, so you are dealing with mostly the same issues and bugs on each, so it really comes down to a point of which theme you want and which apps/bloat you want. It becomes a real pain to have to debloat/rebloat a rom and I only ever do so if the theme and layout is custom and really nice but fun to use. If it's basically a stock rom and doesn't have typical apps/bloat/mods/tweaks that I am used to using, I hit the thanks button for the hard work that helps future devs have an easier time and keep looking for a rom that has everything I want. Right now, I am going to be selling my phone soon so I can get a SGS III at least, or maybe wait to see if the rumors are true and T-Mob gets the One X+. I'm drooling over that OC'd Tegra 3 ::fingers-crossed: But, that doesn't mean I won't be trying out different roms at the moment. I love the ICS roms but hate that I can't use calling over wifi. I know there are other options, but they are a bit of trouble with linking google voice among other things, so ICS isn't really for me yet even though it is beautiful. There's my choice...what's yours?
Ive tried to not post but it bothers me when people cant understand a simple question.
Chris31jct is NOT asking for you to convince him. He is asking why did YOU choose a specific rom.
He is also asking for a reason other than the generic responses given 90% of the time.
I started out on aokp then when slimics was released I used it for a while. I wanted to try aokp to see why it was so popular. I like aokp the customization options its a nice rom. I wanted to try slimics just because it doesnt have all the extra apk that aokp and cm9 have that I never use.
Most of the time I will test a rom just to see what the hype is.
3 things decide your choice of a ROM:
Stability
Customization
Battery consumption
In terms of Stability, Usually the higher the customization and options of a ROM, the more conflicts it has( not a rule).
Battery should be the same on all since they use same code and kernel.
Graphic Customization: AOKP is the Best
Settings and options: CM9 is the best
Stability + Battery: I personally prefer SlimRom or Stock cuz it has the most required customization and its very slim( about 80 mb) so probably lighter on your phone.
I wasn't trying to convince him. I know he'll choose whatever rom he wants and that's not for me to decide and/or judge. I was merely stating why most of us choose the roms we choose which is what I interpreted the question to be. The reasons I gave are the reasons I choose the roms I choose. I don't mean to speak for everyone, but that would be the most basic reason to choose a rom other than just to try out what is out there but we ultimately stick with certain roms due to what's included in the rom as well as the stability of it, although as stated before by more than just me, the ICS roms have the same bugs and therefor the same stability issues. Again, not trying to step on anyone's toes, I don't claim to speak for everyone, but I answered the question as I interpreted it.
Also, as to specific roms, I'd be here all day if I chose to speak on that because I started using custom roms on my old G1 and I've tried out probably over 100 roms for various phones over the last few years. For that matter, I could go way back to the days of the Motorola Razor and a few other phones out around the same time, but I was speaking more about android roms. As far as the roms is concerned I don't care if it's miui, ICS, AOKP, etc. If it has the features I'm looking for and is stable, then I use it until something comes around I like better.
I went with AOKP because
It had full source code and I could modify it as I wanted
I liked the layout of toggles
AOKP ROM Control had features I wanted
I could long-press Back to kill a process
It has "quiet hours"
It has decent control of background data use
I knew where the kernel came from and it has full source code
I knew where all binaries came from and it has full source code
I know the last two of these are an absolute requirement under GPL, but many ROM "authors" fail to provide this information.
AOKP has some "crap" that I freeze to improve performance, but I haven't run out of on-phone storage yet.
CyanogenMod 9, for me, wasn't quite as "usable" as AOKP, the way I use my phone.
MIUI is too "Technicolor" and gimmicky for me. Most of what it has (other than a decent File Explorer, when it doesn't crash) I consider "bloat."
SLIM seemed like a good candidate, but without easy access to full source and the ability to build as I desired, it wasn't on my short list. I tried Lightning or whatever its "default" launcher is, but it had a couple things that just didn't allow me to set up my phone the way I wanted (paging is "wonky" to the way I have come to think of a launcher).
Kernel -- Well, Hefe Kernel pretty clearly added what I wanted; better battery life without significant impact in responsiveness. I'm glad others find what works for me helping them out too.
The Zip-n-Go ROMs don't, in general, excite me. I'm not a big theme guy and I can add/remove what I want pretty easily myself.
@krazymonkeys
I understand your point. I also try everything and then stick to one ROM.
@eollie
Thanks bro.
@jeff
That's the best example of kind of answer I was looking for. Thanks!
I'm on Erik's MIUI 2.8.10.
I tried it because I like the UI: I like the notification bar and full screen toggles, I like the kill app back button feature, the task manager combined task killer home button and all the sys apps. It is super fast, lighweight and easy to use. It is stable and gives instant GPS lock.
Only problem is the battery consumption, but it's kernel related I believe.
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@itzik2sh
I tried MIUI but it is too bright. Don't get me wrong. I like it a lot. But since we don't have Automatic Brightness, then it was a pain. Anyway, it's a great ROM and I think battery didn't drain more than it does on other ROMs. What I love most about MIUI is the phone and text's apps.
There seems to be quite a few jelly bean roms right now, and without an official leak, I am sure each one has its ups and downs at this point.
I am coming from synergyrom, and want to give JB a try. Since theres is still "beta" I am not sure I wanna try that right away.
Which is the most stable at this point??
Definitely liquid smooth...I've tried others and always revert back to touch wiz stock based roms, and i despise touch wiz...liquid smooth jb is the best I've flashed
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liquid smooth is awesome for aosp JB, but touchwiz there's not much thats super stable imo
thanks for the input so far!
Please note if there are known issues, that might help make decisions too.
Thanks all!!
I like codename. Super smooth, frickin' fast and barely believable battery life! Some apps don't stream audio over bluetooth and you have to enable a couple of Developer options to address screen flickering, but those are truthfully very minor annoyances you'll be happy to overlook when you get a taste of that ROM.
Seriously, try it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1900479
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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duarian said:
I've tried both liquid and codename. They are both very very similar. I can't find cant difference in customization between the two.
Codename ran a little warm for me, not saying liquid runs cool but still.
The reason I jumped to liquid is because in codename (for me anyway) the 160 character MMS bug still persisted, it does not in liquid.
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I can respect that. Haven't tried liquid as the CNA ROM got posted around the time I got this phone. I've heard the 160 character error msg is a bit of a red herring, that the msgs actually do get sent but just say they didn't. Was that your experience or did they actually not get sent?
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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Well said.
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bc760 said:
One of the biggest issues with JB roms is if your not in a 4G area then be prepared for some non stop 3G data drops. Also I've noticed weaker signal strength in both service and wifi.
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There is a fix for this now but just has not made it's way into all AOSP roms yet. There are in most of the newer AOKP builds right now.
The biggest issue still is the low volume when recording video's. This is an issue in all AOSP roms and has not been fixed yet. I know I also read a lot about speakerphone and in call volume problems but not sure to much about the actual issue.
This is why I am still sticking to an ICS TW Rom. I like knowing everything on my device just works.
The only major thing that keeps from moving to CM10, or Liquid Smooth is the lack of USB Audio. I leave my phone on my dock at work and stream Pandora through the dock's usb audio. I've been using SynergyROM for awhile now, and will probably stick with it until the USB Audio issue is fixed.
AOKP's new build has been great for me. No real issues to report yet...been on it since 3 came out a week or so ago?
i haven't been too impressed jb at all tbh.
Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
What are the general downsides with using these JB roms weither it be TouchWiz or AOSP. I'm going to take the jump soon but whats fixed or unfixable? I hear some people say screen flicker and no 3G etc.
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Well there's two routes you can go to get your JellyBean fix, and that's either AOSP or TouchWiz.
Touchwiz: You've got two choices.
- You could go with Synergy JB 0.2 beta which is based off the AT&T leaked JB touchwiz build. I personally have not ran it so i can't comment on how well it works, but i use synergy as my touchwiz choice of roms, and was never disappointed by there work, so i'm sure the JB build is working great.
- There is also Jellywiz which is made by Incubus, he's been basing his off the latest leaks, and has a few builds out. One of them is a custom build which just has a few theme changes, and a few other things added in/changed. There's a lot of praise in that thread for his rom, the only bug i had when trying it was that i could not get voice and data to work at the same time (phone calls and web browsing at the same time) But that is because its not based off a verizon leak and until then probably will not work.
AOSP: We'll you've got a lot of options, there's a few here on XDA and then some more on Rootzwiki, so i won't be giving detail on all of them, just a few. But they will all generally 'look' the same, by that i mean because they are all based on AOSP source it'll have the same look to it, since source looks the same.
-CM10: Well it's your basic CM that you've grown to love (or hate ) you can expect nightlies, and things to get fixed in a timely matter. If you used CM7 or CM9 on previous devices then you'll know exactly what to expect. Its built directly from source and you can expect it to be speedy quick.
-AOKP: It's built from source as well just like CM10, but has more options in it, and generally more customization as well. If you use it it'll look a lot like CM10, but it'll have added in bonuses
-CodeNameAndroid: Again built from source, but with codename you've got a ton of customization thrown in, there's a lot of stuff from different AOSP options thrown into it. Right now the Navbar doesn't work without flashing a separate file, but that's not a huge problem since its just a little file to flash. I personally am using it right now and its been great to me, can't really complain about it at all
-LiquidSmooth: Built from source, those that have used a liquid rom before will know exactly what to expect. It will be speedy quick and smooth as hell. You'll find plenty of butter in it as well, they've got there own liquidsettings that'll allow you to do even more customization, and i give them major props, i've currently got them going on my old thunderbolt which is my backup phone, but also used them on my OG Droid and i can vouch that they will provide an amazing rom for users
There are more AOSP Roms over on rootzwiki, but its again the same general thing, each AOSP rom comes from source, but each developer will theme/modify/add/remove/customize to there own liking to provide you with what they feel is the best user experience. The biggest difference between the Touchwiz JB roms and AOSP is that with AOSP you'll have a lot more options going and it'll be stock jellybean, no touchwiz nonsense to hold you back. Some people love the touchwiz stuff and that's fine, but some will love having pure jellybean on there phone and being able to take advantage of that. I'll tell you honestly 100% that AOSP will be faster no matter what touchwiz rom you run.
Oh and kernel wise, i fully stand behind imoseyon's lean kernel for AOSP roms, i've always used imoseyon's kernel's and have always gotten amazing battery life on my GS3 and thunderbolt.
Phew i really hope this helps you with any decision you may have
***If i missed any Touchwiz or AOSP roms i do apologize, i don't know them all off the top of my head, so please don't think that just because i left yours out that i meant it in a bad way***
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thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
I would hold out a few more weeks for a touchwiz based rom - I tried Incubus' and got a number of random reboots. Cleanrom 2.5 has been working great!
Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
AndyMan386 said:
thanks a bunch for the big write-up. I do live in an area that is partly 3g, part 4g, so I am a little concerned about these data drops.. Has this been fixed in the AOSP roms mentioned above?
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
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Currently, all the AOSP roms have the same issues -
- data drops, esp on 3g/4g handoff. There were some recent commits that claim to have fixed this, I'm not sure if it did and which rom's include it
- potential for IMEI loss or brick. Again, you should back up IMEI before any flash, I don't think these issues are present on TW
- TW camera is better. There's an AOSP JB camera mod but hasn't been updated for the newer builds yet
- GPS locks. I keep reading about this in the AOSP rom's, I don't know how common this is.
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Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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your welcome. It ended up being a lot longer than I had originally planned. As for data drops, I'm testing a fix right now and I can confirm it works fine
Data drops were indeed fixed
Imei issues can happen when flashing anything from radios to kernels to roms both touchwiz to aosp. It can also easily be restored.
Tw camera only has a few more features, but in terms of quality their both equal to me. Once the aosp mod is updated it'll be even better.
GPS lock is simple, just get a full lock before flashing aosp and then while having it locked boot into recovery and do your thing.
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link to CM10 data fix?
I am sorry if this is stupid noob question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
spanjeli said:
I am sorry if this is stupid noon question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
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I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
Cheers
I always asked myself the ssame question too... but it turns out we dont hhave so many devs here and this device wasn't a hit like the S series from samsung. Making custom roms isn't so hard but it needs alot of learning if ur a biggener. I tried making custom roms myself but what else do u need from a custom rom if you already have CM9, cm10, paranoid android and soon to be AOKP? But who knows we might see new stuff I mean I bought this tab before there was even a functional cm9 build and I was thinking of selling it. But it pulled through aand I must say his device is rock solid we just need to nail the wifi issue.
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I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
Cheers
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I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
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I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
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I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
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I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
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I have actually did a lot of things with the ICS stock rooted but never have wifi issues. Anywhere I go with wifi access, I never have problems or any issues. Would it be router related? With my P3113, its fine but with my YP-G70, there was. I have to install another stock rom to solve it. Otherwise, everything works fine with me. These products are actually very nice IMHO. I'm just waiting for the JB update for my P6210 and P3113, if there will be.
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
DigitalMD said:
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
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Stock rom is full with unneeded application.
Custom rom bring more speed and space.
I'm currently running custom rom based on JB leak on my Samsung SII, which is full with super functions from S3 and Note 2. Above all that rom is great for daily use For me that is enough
Hello all,
I'm new here. I just got a 3113 as a gift last week and have spent most of yesterday wading knee deep in ROM info, tutorials, discussions and what not. I am happy with the device, but I have observed that it is considerably laggy and does not respond smoothly. I am not sure whether or not this started as soon as I updated to 4.2.
My question is, is there any custom ROM or tweak that you guys could suggest that would make this tab perform better? It's not painfully slow, but any performance improvement would be great. My current phones are on WP8 and it would be great if I could get the same sort of UI responsiveness out of this 3113. (And no, I am not starting a war between the two OSs. I just honestly want to enjoy this tablet to the fullest).
Your input would be very much appreciated.
Welcome, and congrats with your toy! Enjoy it, it's a nice little tablet!
ManilaBeans said:
I have observed that it is considerably laggy and does not respond smoothly. I am not sure whether or not this started as soon as I updated to 4.2.
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I can't be 100% sure, but I am pretty certain it's related. On this tablet, stock 4.2.2 is noticeably worse than 4.1.2, and overall is not a good upgrade. If you read around, you'll find people complaining about it, and also about tweaked ROMs based on it, too.
My question is, is there any custom ROM or tweak that you guys could suggest that would make this tab perform better? It's not painfully slow, but any performance improvement would be great.
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I can't suggest anything out of CM/AOSP/AOKP camp, as I am not very familiar with those ROMs, but two of my personal stock recommendations would be the custom stock powered by NEXT by @ketut.kumajaya and microDelta by @Tsjoklat. MicroDelta also exists in 4.2.2 version, but I still prefer the older one. I know I am going into the forbidden "best ROM" territory, but in my opinion those two are the best stock-based ROMs out there. Oh, and whichever ROM you choose, the NEXT kernel is most highly recommended -- it's the best kernel for this tablet, hands down (again, just my personal opinion)!
Also, PhilZ Advanced Touch CWM (repackaged for P311x and the dual-boot by @ketut.kumajaya) is the ultimate recovery for this device.
As for tweaks (on any ROM), learn about Xposed framework, and explore modules available for it -- you won't be disappointed.
Awesome! This gives me at least a good starting point. One of my problems has been choosing a good first ROM to try.
ManilaBeans said:
Awesome! This gives me at least a good starting point. One of my problems has been choosing a good first ROM to try.
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If you are still looking for ROMs I would like to suggest CM11 KitKat by @CODY86. Very smooth, and it give te option of extended desktop.
Slimbean 2.2 is also real nice.
I think by getting away from the stock ROMs you ditch some of the bloatware.
Rooting and installing custom ROM was easier than the instructions said.