I am sorry if this is stupid noob question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
spanjeli said:
I am sorry if this is stupid noon question, but why we don't have many custom roms since that our device's sharing same exynos 4210 hardware, like Samsung galaxy SII?
I own SII for myself and there is every day something new in development thread, and here nothing
My P 6200 is crying for fix WiFi problem and some great custom rom :crying:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
Cheers
I always asked myself the ssame question too... but it turns out we dont hhave so many devs here and this device wasn't a hit like the S series from samsung. Making custom roms isn't so hard but it needs alot of learning if ur a biggener. I tried making custom roms myself but what else do u need from a custom rom if you already have CM9, cm10, paranoid android and soon to be AOKP? But who knows we might see new stuff I mean I bought this tab before there was even a functional cm9 build and I was thinking of selling it. But it pulled through aand I must say his device is rock solid we just need to nail the wifi issue.
Sent from my GT-P6200 using XDA Premium HD app
ben_2g0 said:
I have been using Android since it was released and have collected various devices. This is just me, there is nothing better than stock rooted and tweaked rom. Just debloat the rom and you will be ok. My P6210 is amazingly fast with NO error or any single issues. I got both apple and Samsung products and my P3113 and my P6210 are my main tab. It is a must for me to go stock rooted and tweaked. Just me.
Cheers
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
spanjeli said:
I don't have any problems with speed and stability on stock 4.0.4 but wifi issue is bothering me so much I try almost everything, now I m on cm10 and problem is still here...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
unclefab said:
I had wifi problems as well on stock ics (UK version).
It all disappeared when I flashed the US version, give it a try...
This said, cm, aokp and stuff are nice but not stable enough for my taste yet, I don't like bugs (I am not a very patient character) and for me so far there's nothing like a good home tweaked, rooted and deodexed stock ics rom.
When cm10 is completely stable then I will eagerly flash it, I check xda every day waiting for that day to come
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have actually did a lot of things with the ICS stock rooted but never have wifi issues. Anywhere I go with wifi access, I never have problems or any issues. Would it be router related? With my P3113, its fine but with my YP-G70, there was. I have to install another stock rom to solve it. Otherwise, everything works fine with me. These products are actually very nice IMHO. I'm just waiting for the JB update for my P6210 and P3113, if there will be.
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
DigitalMD said:
Early in ANdroid the stock ROMs were often terrible and there was a lot of room to make easy improvements. Now the stock ROMs are really quite good and there is not much that can be improved on easily. IF you like a different style you have the CM based ROMs with some UI differences but not much in the way of performance improvements and you lose stability and some hardware features like IR Remote. Even with the Nexus, by the time some individual developer takes the time to customize a ROM, Google has new features out in the stock ROM so its just not worth it to build from scratch.
SO called debloating is mostly a placebo because the new devices like this tab have lots of memory and apps you don;t use aren't doing anything or taking resources.
Curious to know if you have found anything unique and useful in SII development. TO me it seems like all retreads of repackaged stock or CM based stuff with a few different apps from samsung or sony thrown in for good measure.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stock rom is full with unneeded application.
Custom rom bring more speed and space.
I'm currently running custom rom based on JB leak on my Samsung SII, which is full with super functions from S3 and Note 2. Above all that rom is great for daily use For me that is enough
Related
Hello, I decided to write this thread, your opinions in addition to knowledge and experience, I serve as a guideline for deciding on a particular ROM, I'm now with P3110XWBLH3 rooted, and what I want more than anything is overclocked, smoothness and stability, which is something ^ ^
Will include the following, as I see it is notably more:
Stock ICS 4.0.4
CM9
CM10
AOKP
If anyone suggests otherwise, of course included.
I hope your opinions.
Thank you.
I'm now on AOKP Build 4 and like it! But remember - if you need Samsung Apps you have to stay on a stock ROM...
IMHO it is Stock 4.0.4:
- Keyboard, Mouse and Bluetooth headset worked without any additional steps
- TouchWiz is really faster and no lagging when using it
- Good working time (For me battery enough approx two days)
- Nice small apps available all the time fand no matter what application or game launched (Splanner, task manager, calc)
Ailir said:
IMHO it is Stock 4.0.4:
- Keyboard, Mouse and Bluetooth headset worked without any additional steps
- TouchWiz is really faster and no lagging when using it
- Good working time (For me battery enough approx two days)
- Nice small apps available all the time fand no matter what application or game launched (Splanner, task manager, calc)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You kidding me lol ? :silly:
AKOP Build 4 , blows any ROM out of the water. Read this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892049
Obvviously it progresses through the various builds, but you will see it get better and better as the thread goeson . The problem with asking about ROMs is that its down to personal opinion , Such as myself and Ailir; disagree , but dose not mean that either of us are right or wrong.The best thing to do is to flash them all and find one that works for you.
There is no "best ROM" , its all down to personal needs.....BUT JellyBean is a better option , no matter the what the ROM , be it a custom build or stock.
My 2 cents, not worth much but you did ask lol
AOKP кeview the best .. but I have a СM10, he likes me more ...
Sean_Seany said:
You kidding me lol ? :silly:
AKOP Build 4 , blows any ROM out of the water. Read this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1892049
Obvviously it progresses through the various builds, but you will see it get better and better as the thread goeson . The problem with asking about ROMs is that its down to personal opinion , Such as myself and Ailir; disagree , but dose not mean that either of us are right or wrong.The best thing to do is to flash them all and find one that works for you.
There is no "best ROM" , its all down to personal needs.....BUT JellyBean is a better option , no matter the what the ROM , be it a custom build or stock.
My 2 cents, not worth much but you did ask lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree...I love AOKP, and build 4 just keeps getting better, especially with the Over Clock Kernal. But it is really preference. For a long time I was pure CM, but after I gave AOKP a try I could never go back, just isn't the same.
Good Luck
Aokp build 4 then cm10 latest nightly
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
the original mobilitygeek said:
I if you need Samsung Apps you have to stay on a stock ROM...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi to everybody,
i'm using android since 3 years but it is my first post on XDA i was just a lurker.
I'm using AOKP and i prefer it instead of the samsung stock, but I would like to install on aokp some apps from stock, i tried but it's seem to be impossible.
So there something that i have to do? Nobody find a solution?
Thank's a lot.
LucaBB said:
Hi to everybody,
i'm using android since 3 years but it is my first post on XDA i was just a lurker.
I'm using AOKP and i prefer it instead of the samsung stock, but I would like to install on aokp some apps from stock, i tried but it's seem to be impossible.
So there something that i have to do? Nobody find a solution?
Thank's a lot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope not much you can do as they are a Samsung Stock exclusive and made to work on Stock ROMs. Its a pity as I really like some of the stock apps. Love the music/video player. I have been trying to fiddle with them for ages , cant get them signed or installed.
Installed cm10.1 with Dohllmen Kernel and works fine!
First off, I am interested in a vanilla ROM that is stable--what is the best currently available for this phone? CM, AOKP, PA, etc. I would prefer Jelly Bean, but if ICS is more stable, I will definitely take that.
Here is what I need to be working:
GPS
Simultaneous Voice + 3G
Video
Camera
Wifi Tethering
Heavy Customization
Decent Battery Life
NFC
Now, given the ROM you recommend, what are some kernels recommended for that ROM? Again, I'm looking for the ROM to be smooth, but would sacrifice a little performance for better battery life.
I plan on purchasing a used (a week old) one from someone off of Craig's List tomorrow (we are meeting at a Verizon store)--is there anything I should specifically be checking before I decide on a final purchase for the phone?
Thanks ahead of time for any advice anyone may have!
Ninja-edit: I obviously plan on rooting this, and by the looks of it, if it received an OTA, I can't unlock the bootloader? Will this affect my ability to root and flash custom ROMs at all?
you should get your phone and flash a few touchwiz roms, and a few AOPS roms and decide what you want. a nice compromise is beans build. i guess its themed after AOSP but ive never flashed it. theyre different experiences. ive had good luck with KTkernel but others run other kernels. never tried any others.
youll get many recommendations here both TW and AOSP, because basically any rom you flash will have all of those features working. (unsure about simultanous voice + data but i think thats on all?)
dont mean to give such a blehhhhhh answer, but only you can decide on what you run
ddurandSGS3 said:
you should get your phone and flash a few touchwiz roms, and a few AOPS roms and decide what you want. a nice compromise is beans build. i guess its themed after AOSP but ive never flashed it. theyre different experiences. ive had good luck with KTkernel but others run other kernels. never tried any others.
youll get many recommendations here both TW and AOSP, because basically any rom you flash will have all of those features working. (unsure about simultanous voice + data but i think thats on all?)
dont mean to give such a blehhhhhh answer, but only you can decide on what you run
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm really not a fan of Touchwiz at all. Do you have a specific AOSP ROM that you'd recommend?
running AOKP M1 with the 11/13 ktkernel. i keep trying others but always come back to AOKP. its just great for me and everything I use works.
I ran paranoid android for a month or so without any issues too. ive had great luck with the AOSP roms for the S3.
if those interest you...king kang is a combination of AOKP and ParanoidAndroid. I flashed and went back to AOKPM1 though.
Thanks for the reply! I'll give AOKP a shot and report back here with how it works!
I'm certain this has been brought up before Several thousand times, but I gotta ask again...What is it that drives people to constantly flash new Roms/updates every couple days or even weeks?
I have been running cleanRom 3.0 and having no issues, no bugs, GREAT battery life. Why would I change that? I know CleanRom 5.0 has come out, but what would be the point to update if 3.0 is working perfectly and spot on?
Is it that people get bored?
Is it that people wonder what is different?
just makes me wonder.
Im guilty of this myself. I believe a rooted debloated with a theme of your choice is the way to go
iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple
see whats different, see customizations, battery life, other random usually rom exclusive features.
ive probably flashed 75% of the roms available for this device just to see what theyre all about.
it helps me help other people, and helps me make my device my own.
most of the times its out of boredom and i restore my daily driver rom
Because updates to the ROM = possibly better phone
I prefer stability but I like changing stuff on my phone. I'll stay on a rom for a few weeks and not change a thing but the entire time I'll want to flash something even if I have no reason too smh Ultimately, I'm just not satisfied with what ships out the box.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
The grass is always greener.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
I used to flash weekly with my OG droid, over the years I have slowed down to once a month or so. I have 4 android devices so thats still a lot of flashing. I am always in search of the perfect rom, haha whatever that may be. faster, smoother, bells and whistles. I don't even know.
To have the latest and greatest rom.
Bug fixes and improvements. Plain and simple.
I've been trying to find the best Rom for what I do every day, but there are always little problems that bug me on every Rom. I damaged Clean Rom 5.0 and have finally stopped the daily flashing. This is as close as I well get to the prefect Rom.
Sent from my sexy phone using XDA Premium
And I get what everyone has said. BUT for those of us that prefer performance (i.e. great battery life, no issues/bugs, fast speeds) over "new'ness", once you find a Rom that gives you the best of all worlds, why would you even worry about the latest? I have been on CleanRom 3.0 for since a couple weeks after it came out. ONLY reason I went to it was because I wasn't happy with the 4 Roms I tried before. Those 4 Roms I tried prior all had bugs or poor battery life that I wasn't happy with. Now that I am Happy with EVERYTHING, I dont plan on changing.
And don't get me wrong here, I know that just because I am satisfied and not wanting to flash doesn't mean that others will be content with that. Nobody needs to tell me that. I'm not trying to debate, just trying to see how others here think.
Because it is great to see the capability of your device by exploring different roms and it is so darn addicting.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 2
Because the majority of us here at XDA who root our phones and flash ROMs are tech junkies. Technology is like a drug to many of us. We are never content and always need the next fix, whatever the latest and greatest may be.
CleanROM 5.0 is built on the latest Jelly Bean leak, which has many improvements over the Ice Cream Sandwich base that CleanROM 3.0 is built on.
mmmmm rom flashing!!!!
1Android said:
And I get what everyone has said. BUT for those of us that prefer performance (i.e. great battery life, no issues/bugs, fast speeds) over "new'ness", once you find a Rom that gives you the best of all worlds, why would you even worry about the latest? I have been on CleanRom 3.0 for since a couple weeks after it came out. ONLY reason I went to it was because I wasn't happy with the 4 Roms I tried before. Those 4 Roms I tried prior all had bugs or poor battery life that I wasn't happy with. Now that I am Happy with EVERYTHING, I dont plan on changing.
And don't get me wrong here, I know that just because I am satisfied and not wanting to flash doesn't mean that others will be content with that. Nobody needs to tell me that. I'm not trying to debate, just trying to see how others here think.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm like you in that I don't want to potentially compromise the stability and functionality of my phone without significant incentive. For me the incentive was new functionality and increased performance. I've only flashed three roms other than stock.
CleanROM 3.1 was the first ROM I flashed, and as you said, it's stable with great battery life and pretty smooth. The smooth operation of my phone is what made me cautious about jumping to the first JB leak. Instead I kept track of the CR, stock leak, and Jelly Beans threads and read up on the bugs and issues.
Ultimately what I was reading about Google Now and Project Butter made me realize that I really wanted Jelly Bean and the few known issues in JB leak #2 were not enough to stop me from flashing Jelly Beans Build 2. I don't regret that decision, Jelly Beans is a cool rom with a nice AOSP theme, ran really smooth, and generally gave me good battery life (depending on what I was running). Also Google Now is really really cool.
Then I was reading about AOSP roms like LiquidSmooth RC9 and SlimBeans 3.1 that were about the come out. It seems like those teams had dedicated developers who were squashing existing bugs. With the remaining bugs pretty much known, but the ROMs otherwise stable I decided to give LiquidSmooth a shot. The motivation here was to really rid myself of all the stuff Samsung had running in the background, with touchwiz it seems like there are a million things classified under "Android System" when trying to diagnose a battery drain. With AOSP when I look at battery stats Screen and Cellular Calls are the only apps that really make a dent. I also like the clean styling, functionality, and flexibility of the AOSP lockscreen and UI in general.
Unless I encounter any other problems I will probably wait for a stable AOSP 4.2.1 rom to come out so I can try the new features there and hopefully some bug fixes for the bluetooth audio issues in 4.1.2.
I m coming from a tbolt i now have a verizon s3(unrooted so far) n I m guilty of "being in search of a perfect rom". What drove me to search was claims of better battery life, quicker and stable. What drove me back to my daily driver(skyraider) was frequent reboots( while googlemaps), applications not working(slingbox in particular ) inability to view video(live streams from my church).
I m currently doing research for the perfect rom for my S3 as I just activated the s3 yesterday (n I'm missing having a rooted phone) and I m resisting the urge to root!
pcar1947 said:
I m currently doing research for the perfect rom for my S3 as I just activated the s3 yesterday (n I'm missing having a rooted phone) and I m resisting the urge to root!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I give it three days before you root/unlock or no later than the weekend. Regardless: root, unlock, and backup your IMEI!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
bug fixes
new features
security updates
Compulsion
fun
hacking/tinkering instinct
Customization
because we can
If you are happy where you are at then don't sweat flashing new stuff.
SlimSnoopOS said:
I give it three days before you root/unlock or no later than the weekend. Regardless: root, unlock, and backup your IMEI!
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll second backing up your IMEI... being a total noob I researched and backed up everything I could, and I'm glad I did, second Rom I flashed sent my phone into permanent roaming. Following the stickies here made the fix simple.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using xda app-developers app
If everything works it just means you aren't running the latest and greatest.
You must tweak your phone until something breaks.
Then you search for the next fix.
It is the path that must be followed.
Hello all,
I'm new here. I just got a 3113 as a gift last week and have spent most of yesterday wading knee deep in ROM info, tutorials, discussions and what not. I am happy with the device, but I have observed that it is considerably laggy and does not respond smoothly. I am not sure whether or not this started as soon as I updated to 4.2.
My question is, is there any custom ROM or tweak that you guys could suggest that would make this tab perform better? It's not painfully slow, but any performance improvement would be great. My current phones are on WP8 and it would be great if I could get the same sort of UI responsiveness out of this 3113. (And no, I am not starting a war between the two OSs. I just honestly want to enjoy this tablet to the fullest).
Your input would be very much appreciated.
Welcome, and congrats with your toy! Enjoy it, it's a nice little tablet!
ManilaBeans said:
I have observed that it is considerably laggy and does not respond smoothly. I am not sure whether or not this started as soon as I updated to 4.2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't be 100% sure, but I am pretty certain it's related. On this tablet, stock 4.2.2 is noticeably worse than 4.1.2, and overall is not a good upgrade. If you read around, you'll find people complaining about it, and also about tweaked ROMs based on it, too.
My question is, is there any custom ROM or tweak that you guys could suggest that would make this tab perform better? It's not painfully slow, but any performance improvement would be great.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can't suggest anything out of CM/AOSP/AOKP camp, as I am not very familiar with those ROMs, but two of my personal stock recommendations would be the custom stock powered by NEXT by @ketut.kumajaya and microDelta by @Tsjoklat. MicroDelta also exists in 4.2.2 version, but I still prefer the older one. I know I am going into the forbidden "best ROM" territory, but in my opinion those two are the best stock-based ROMs out there. Oh, and whichever ROM you choose, the NEXT kernel is most highly recommended -- it's the best kernel for this tablet, hands down (again, just my personal opinion)!
Also, PhilZ Advanced Touch CWM (repackaged for P311x and the dual-boot by @ketut.kumajaya) is the ultimate recovery for this device.
As for tweaks (on any ROM), learn about Xposed framework, and explore modules available for it -- you won't be disappointed.
Awesome! This gives me at least a good starting point. One of my problems has been choosing a good first ROM to try.
ManilaBeans said:
Awesome! This gives me at least a good starting point. One of my problems has been choosing a good first ROM to try.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are still looking for ROMs I would like to suggest CM11 KitKat by @CODY86. Very smooth, and it give te option of extended desktop.
Slimbean 2.2 is also real nice.
I think by getting away from the stock ROMs you ditch some of the bloatware.
Rooting and installing custom ROM was easier than the instructions said.
I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.
klokwyze said:
I don't see many options here. Mostly stock roms in this forum topic. I had a ton of problems with boot loops and such and just couldn't get anything to work. OTAs still force a bootloop sequence unless I zero out: "/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc". I just disabled the notification for them and everything is fine now, but I was wondering if there was any point to using anything other than the stock ROM.
I kept root and just removed TMO bloatware. The 4.4.2 stock ROM seems pretty damn fast, but I have nothing to compare it too. I'm basically just trying to decide if it's even worth it to attempt another ROM install. Are there any real advantages to any of the other ROMs out there over stock? I'm looking for stability above all else, then speed. Features I don't really care about.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling
jamesd1085 said:
Stock or at least stock based with dorimanx kernel is about as good as it gets for tmo...most of our developers have moved on to newer devices...and non tmo roms don't have Wi-Fi calling
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah wifi calling is irrelevant to me, but frankly this stock ROM is amazing compared to the performance of my Relay 4G.... H/W keyboard android phones RIP.
Cheers
I have the Intl version which sports more custom roms but they are all the same more or less.... im on stock KK too even though i was a die hard software updater (had 5.1.1 on previous Nexus 4).
Have to agree with you this phone hates modding and is really feeble, it will get bricked quite easy unlike the Nexus 4 which can take a lot of abuse
Try the new cloudy rom. It's a port from LG G4 with various elements.
why dont you guys check in the G2 Android Development. most roms cover all variants there.
For me CynaogenMod's Privacy Guard feature is a must-have on any Android phone. But right now I'm finding that the official CM12 nightlies seems to screw up the modem settings for my local carrier here in Canda (Wind), so I lose access to the service. Constructive suggestions will be greatly appreciated.