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Hi all,
I need a bit of advice. My wife and I have had the Captivate since this time last year. We came over from the iPhone 3G to the Captivate and loved the amount of tweaking you could do. From the beginning, I went through 4 phones in the first month with the random shut down issue, but my Wife's was fine for the first six months she had it. She is on her second Captivate now and is having problem after problem. Alarms not going off, random shut downs, wi-fi not turning on/off, phone won't dial a number and won't hang up when you try to end the call, phone takes for ever to start up on a reboot, drops network and won't reconnect without re-starting and so on. Needless to say she is pretty frustrated with it and wants to get something different and is leaning back to the iPhone. I am having some issues with mine all similar to what she is having, but not nearly as often. We are both running the stock Froyo, but rooted.
I have a few questions:
1. Would you suspect this to be a problem with the hardware or something maybe a ROM could fix? If a ROM could fix it, any suggestions for a reliable ROM? (I've flashed ROM's in the past to mess around, but haven't kept up with them in over a year.)
2. Is this a common problem with Android (i.e. not reliable)?
3. If it isn't a common problem of Android not being reliable, what other new Android phones from AT&T are good.
Sorry for all of the questions, and thanks for any input.
Dave

I've been on custom ROMs for a long time now, and I've noticed that they are often faster, have better battery life and depending on the ROM you choose, can be more reliable than stock. I'd give it a try, since worst case, you can go back to stock or trade the phone in anyway.
I'm currently using the Illuminance ROM and it is very good. Pretty reliable, fast and excellent battery life.
Other older roms that I've used are Pinnacle and Cognition. All 3 of these offer a smooth stock experience that's not too flashy with radical themes or anything.
Good luck!

1. ask yourself this questions do u like tweaking stuff, if so go with android. else apple or windows
2. i have captivate for about 15 months now, i have never had random shutdown issues, so random shutdown could be mostly software related. I'm running cyanogen7 and its like new phone altogether. pure android experience
3. new android phones that are coming out are much stable than the older phones, bcoz phones like captivate have been rushed to market to survive the Apples rally.
if u want pure android experience go the Galaxy nexus (the latest android from Google). with google phones u can be assured that your os will upgraded as soon as Google releases latest OS. i have heard pretty good reviews about Ice Cream sandwich

What's Froyo?
A clean install of a hot new ROM will give it new life. It shouldn't be unstable though. Maybe it's all the bloatware and apps installed or some files got corrupted. Backup first but try not to reinstall as much as possible if you go with a new ROM. No system data should be restored on a different version anyway.

If your due an upgrade do so and do some research on new phones as far as fixing problems the cappys always have had minor issues a new rom with a clean install works cm7 or cognition
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Cm7's battery life is garbage. The cm team themselves will admit that. It doesn't contain the proper hardware drivers from Samsung. you guys might want to mention that before suggesting that to a noob...
op Sounds those problems sound all software related. I would flash a leaked gingerbread stock firmware as a baseline, then if all is good you could stick with that or flash a custom gingerbread ROM over that if you wanted a more tweaked experience.

Agree with what the others have said... try upgrading to a Gingerbread ROM. There are several out there, most all of the JVT ones are very mature and stable. The latest KK4 ones are pretty nice as well but just being released so maybe not the best 1st choice.

I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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rflnc1 said:
I somewhat disagree..I found all the gb Rome to be less than stable, maybe cuz they use so much ram. That being said I put a custom froyo on mine before I donated it to my father-in-law and he hasn't had any trouble out of it. Also, att's policy is if you have went through 3 phones during your warranty period you can get it replaced with another model..you may have to ask.
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I have to say, the GB roms lack of stability is directly related to the lack of source code for the captivate gingerbread rom.
If you are looking for a stable Froyo experience go with Andromeda3. Ive been on it for months now and really have enjoyed it.

First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave

If you like the stock GB ROM, you'll love Illuminance 3.0--very fast, great battery life, and smooth.

Or try pinnacle 1.3 close to stock, fast, and great battery life.
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Agreed about Pinnacle--very reliable and a favorite of many.

You might also want to give a try with cyanogenmod 7, I liked it more than other roms. But it may depend on your choice. Thats the beauty of android, you have choices and most of them won't let you down.

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dbs179 said:
First, thanks to all of you for the input and advice, I appreciate it.
I did end up flashing I897UCKK1 Android 2.3.5 Gingerbread from the Stock ROMs sticky over the weekend. So far so good. It seems to be working well and the phone seems much more responsive, to the point that I'm thinking of doing the same with my phone as well. I'm going to test it out on the wife's phone for a month or so, but I hope this fixes all of her issues and saves me from having to get her something new.
Thanks again,
Dave
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Great, happy you've found your answer.

[Q] Help choosing ICS ROM for Skyrocket

Hello all,
Wondering if you guys can help me decide whether to flash an ICS ROM or not?
I have my Skyrocket tweaked and set up perfectly. It contains...
Version: 2.3.5 (refuse to upgrade to 2.3.6 due to many issues I see some are having)
Kernel: 2.6.35.11+ (excellent "stock-ish" ROM from romracer)
Launcher: Go Launcher EX
Phone is rooted and like to use CWM.
With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
Perhaps something that will work with the romracer kernel? For example, something that would still allow me to use CWM and MUST also support boot animations and BLN support. That is a must for me, as I use it to tweak my battery life quite a bit.
Anyways,
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
--mike

No ics for you, then.
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None have fun with gb
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If you decide that you can live without the BLN and overclocking then make a nandroid and give smooth ice a try, skyics is also good I hear.
I've tried smooth ice for like a month almost and it is really stable and the battery was good too.
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If you do not have the heart for glitches, ICS may not serve you well. There is no real benefit that I can see unless you are a hardcore phone tweaker. I am always debating whether to just go back to stock GB myself !!!
BUT if you really have the itch, the safest is mhx's full bloat stock. I used that for a long time, and it is very - relatively- stable.
here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1570498&highlight=full+bloat
My 4 cents....

Close eyes. Now say eni mini miny Moe! Just flash them all. U could use the experience and see everyone's roms instead of asking.... hrllo
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you gotta wait till kernel source is released before you'll have bln and oc but maybe try smooth ice if you want touchwiz but id try cm7 if you haven't or cm9 its all alpha buy lots have used it as a daily driver... I just hate touchwiz
CM9 Skyrocket

Thanks...
Thank you all for the feedback.
This is what I though! lol
I will stick with GB for now. I get amazing battery life, is extremely stable and love all the extra features after tweaking.
Was just curious....
Thanks again,
--mike

Battery Life & Stability
Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.

I've been using PTSD's AOKP ICS ROM and I love it. I've mixed that with InstigatorX's Kernel and my battery life is amazing. I'm an Android noob, but I'm digging this setup.

pls4ms said:
Thanks to the OP for this thread. I'm in a similar boat, but am just looking for the most stable custom ROM with the longest battery life. Coming from rooted Gingerbread, I've setup my ICS exactly the same (debloated and lean), and my time between charges was cut by 1/3 at least.
From my limited research, the CM9 Beta 1 ROM sounds to have excellent battery life and great stability. However, I'm open to suggestions! One question I have though, is I keep hearing folks talk about "nightlies". That that mean it requires nightly updating? Thanks in advance.
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the word nightly means that it's scheduled to auto build a new version with any fixes made during the day... It wont auto update your Rom though you have to manually install it
It is a very easy process though. you download the new nightly and reboot to recovery: wipe system and wipe cache then install, wipe dalvik and fix permissions and reboot if you installed any mods like inverted apps or gps fix or dpi changes they need to also be addresses after the first boot
Because i don't like setting it up all the time i just install the new nightly weekly
CM9 Skyrocket

I actually *just* restored to Gingerbread today, after months of using Cyanogenmod 9's official and nightly releases, as well as the InstigatorX kernels.
My battery life was okay, but for all the extra bells and whistles, they seem to get the basics wrong, unfortunately :/ I still couldn't send texts larger than 160 characters without splitting them up, and they'd always arrive out of order, or not at all. Other apps wouldn't behave properly either, and my mobile network connection seemed to change/drop just from looking at it.
So CM9 looked promising, but still has a ways to go, and it's rated as one of the better ROMs for this phone. I didn't even want to try CM10, because their bug list is still bigger than CM9.
Can I ask where you got your romracer kernel? I'll have to give that a try. Also I'm looking to replace the current radio with something better.
I had to rebuild from scratch because somehow my gingerbread backup was corrupted. I used Bonestocketeer's ROM ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1357274 ) and the only issue I've had with it is I can't change the LTE/HSPA/GSM setting in Mobile Networks to just HSPA/GSM. I was able to with my original ROM, and that seemed to help battery life.
Thanks again for your post!

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At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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sly-tendencies said:
At least tell him why. You report hounds are all the same.
To OP, james has reported you because the title and nature of this thread suggests asking which rom is the best, which is prohibited in this forum because "which x is best" threads can usually promote flaming and whatnot. It's like asking who likes the Yankees, and then fans of other teams riot about how their team is the best.
This comes as a surprise as I see you've been a member for a while. Assuming that other forums have similar rules to the SR forum.
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He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
feeling the skyrocket xperiance

pookieguy said:
With that said, I'm wondering what is the best option to try? My main concern is obviously performance and battery life. I have spectacular battery life right now and don't want to lose it by flashing an ICS ROM.
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My recommendation would be NexusMod, then. It features the proprietary performance tweaks available in the TouchWiz ROMs, so it's faster than Cyanogenmod, but it has a lot of theming that makes it look and feel closer to AOSP. There are still some ugly elements of TouchWiz that exist, but it's a big improvement over a lot of the other TouchWiz-based ROMs.
For sure, CM9 has more features and tweaking options, and a more consistent AOSP look to it, but it's slower than NexusMod and still has some very minor bugs. It does, perhaps, offer you a few more options in how to save battery, though.
I have to say, though ICS is a massive improvement over GB and we have stable, mature ICS ROMs available. I would strongly advise upgrading, but if you're concerned about bugs, stick with a light TW-based rom like NexusMod.

Illnevertell said:
He's actually doing it to probably get me in trouble bro I doubt he reported it he's trying to make a point and failing he's done this in half the recent threads here
feeling the skyrocket xperiance
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Yeah I see he did the same in a post about a Motorola screen. As much as I don't like your attitude I will admit you report where it's appropriate
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First off Questions belongs in Q&A. Second no one can really say use "x". Search, read and try. Locked

Former Gnex Toro user needs advice

I recently got an SGS3 as a present from my wife for my bday last month, but prior to the SGS3, I had the Gnex Toro with DroidTheory's latest Non-JB, AOKP-based rom and either IMOSEYON's Lean Kernel or Franco kernel. Now, coming to the SGS3, I haven't stayed up to date with the modding/rom'ing scene due to a death in the family, and until now, have only rooted the phone just to install TBU to restore my apps and settings.
So - I need some advice. I know that there's probably over a thousand posts about roms and kernels for the SGS3, but I was wondering if anyone had any personal experience/advice they'd like to throw my way for getting the most (ie battery, speed, features) out of my new phone.
Where do I begin? I thought the bootloader was locked and encrypted, but then I saw a one-button (and it was the entire screen size, but I can't remember the name) app to unlock the bootloader. I did that, but haven't experimented with any new kernels cause I'm a little dense when it comes to what all these new options are and what they mean. Anyone have a quick, high level overview and some pointers?
Thanks for your help
Jesse

First things first BACK UP your IMEI use terminal "su" then "reboot nvbackup" it backs up your imei to one of the phones partitions. The gs3 has a bug and this hopefully will fix it. TreveE also released a zip that makes a backed up zip I'd do that too. Just search for it.

First off, let me welcome you back to not only XDA but the modding/romming scene! Second off, my condolences. I hope all is well with you now though.
First things first though, rooting and unlocking the bootloader. Seems you've already taken care of that using mmmeff's app in the Play Store. This one, correct?
After that, it's all about installing a recovery (duh!). I'm using TWRP 2.2 which you can grab here.
We got recovery setup? Good? GOOD! Okay, so, something that was found as KennyCap up above said is that IMEI (how Verizon identifies your phone as being cool for school on their network) seems to disappear somewhat randomly when flashing custom roms. Luckily, most of us are reckless enough to not care, so, we've ended up with so many people losing theirs that a solution has been found! Several, actually. Here's a thread with EVERYTHING you need to know about IMEI, backing it up, and knowing how to not be that guy who ruined his present from his wife, who now despises him for wrecking his present.
After that, you're golden man. Nothing can bring you DOWN. So, we've got a bunch of options as far as performance goes. Me? I've been using CyanogenMod 10 as a daily driver since that released. Had some strange incidents on certain builds, but the 09/06 build was fine. I just switched over to ParanoidAndroid a couple hours ago, myself. Battery life seems fine so far, as good as it was on CM10 (which by the by, is freakin' insane) so I'd recommend it if you like further tweaking your phone. I'm, unfortunately, a rom kind of guy. I, by nature don't flash kernels. Because quite frankly, I don't know.. if you flash them. So I can't help you there. But, I hope that I've been of some help! Welcome back, and have fun!

until all the kinks..well most of the kinks you can never get them all.. are worked out i am sticking with a stock based. Since you wanted battery, and features i would recommend CleanROM (Current 2.1), CleanKernel(Current 1.2), and the add on pack for the rom to get some other features.
Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1832070
Kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850495
Add-on: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1854060

I agree with a stock based ROM from your described needs, but the latest cm10 is solid for me with KT kernel.
Also this post would have been better suited in the q&a section, just a heads up before people come in here flaming you.
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Honestly surprised no flaming yet.. waiting...
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gowansta said:
Honestly surprised no flaming yet.. waiting...
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Flamers haven't had their morning coffee yet that's why. Also, "Forrest Gump" is on tv right now so they may be distracted.
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gowansta said:
Honestly surprised no flaming yet.. waiting...
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I'm here....
Did you notice the section you posted in? Releases and development only. You didn't know, but now you do!
Sorry for the death in the family, my condolences as well.
Enjoy that new S3!
P.S. I haven't had my coffee and I'm not watching Forrest Gump
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Hurr I'm a mod, move to general or die durr
/Flaming
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Sounds like everyone's given pretty good recommendations so far, especially ZServ, props to you on that writeup.
I also came from Toro to SGS3, and I was a little gunshy to flash anything while the IMEI thing got worked out. Currently running a test build of AOKP from Xoomdev (www.blamexoomdev.com) and it's been pretty solid for me so far.
One thing to note, there are still RIL issues with AOSP roms (such as CM9/10, AOKP) that cause very ugly 3G coverage. 4G seems unaffected, but if you're in a low signal 3G area, you'll get drops like mad. Touchwiz based roms such as paranoidandroid, cleanrom, Synergy, etc don't seem to have these issues. Keep this in mind if you're in an area that doesn't get reliable 4G coverage. If you use an AOSP rom and have to rely on 3G you might get frequent data drops.
Otherwise welcome back, my condolences as well, and go have some fun.

aj8600 said:
Hurr I'm a mod, move to general or die durr
/Flaming
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You familiar with sarcasm and/or humor?
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I could have missed this as I read through the thread quickly but even if it's been said I will say it again for emphasis:
NEVER EVER FLASH A ROM OR KERNEL FOR THE i9300 (INTERNATIONAL) GS3.
Whew. Okay, I emphasize this because you said you used Franco kernel in the past. There is no version of that kernel for our phone. Flashing it will result in brick that can only be reversed by a JTAG.
Oh, and wrong section RAH BLAH ANGRY WORDS!

ZServ said:
First off, let me welcome you back to not only XDA but the modding/romming scene! Second off, my condolences. I hope all is well with you now though.
First things first though, rooting and unlocking the bootloader. Seems you've already taken care of that using mmmeff's app in the Play Store. This one, correct?
After that, it's all about installing a recovery (duh!). I'm using TWRP 2.2 which you can grab here.
We got recovery setup? Good? GOOD! Okay, so, something that was found as KennyCap up above said is that IMEI (how Verizon identifies your phone as being cool for school on their network) seems to disappear somewhat randomly when flashing custom roms. Luckily, most of us are reckless enough to not care, so, we've ended up with so many people losing theirs that a solution has been found! Several, actually. Here's a thread with EVERYTHING you need to know about IMEI, backing it up, and knowing how to not be that guy who ruined his present from his wife, who now despises him for wrecking his present.
After that, you're golden man. Nothing can bring you DOWN. So, we've got a bunch of options as far as performance goes. Me? I've been using CyanogenMod 10 as a daily driver since that released. Had some strange incidents on certain builds, but the 09/06 build was fine. I just switched over to ParanoidAndroid a couple hours ago, myself. Battery life seems fine so far, as good as it was on CM10 (which by the by, is freakin' insane) so I'd recommend it if you like further tweaking your phone. I'm, unfortunately, a rom kind of guy. I, by nature don't flash kernels. Because quite frankly, I don't know.. if you flash them. So I can't help you there. But, I hope that I've been of some help! Welcome back, and have fun!
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Thanks for the info. First, I have been done everything up to the nvram backup, but I just took care of that. It'd be nice to know from the post where the backup is kept so I could keep it offline. Hell, it'd be nice to be able to hot-swap one phone to another. I mean, with an IMEI backup, it wouldn't even matter if you bought a illegitimate phone from CL or something since you could always swap in your IMEI.
I really have never been an CM fan. I toyed with it back on my Droid X, even my GNex Toro, and just felt it was not as feature-rich as the AOKP or the custom variants. I mean, its lean, its quick, but so is AOSP, and I'm not looking for just plain vanilla. I want the bells and whistles. I like the built in rom control of AOKP as a separate settings menu item.
As far as kernels go, I'm really looking for something that gives me better control of the OC'ing and undervolting, but isn't so complicated that I need to bust out my TI calculator just to figure out settings. I like the rom control of the Franco Kernel app. I bought the app, drank the Kool Aid and have been a fan ever since, but have been skeptical, because, to be quite honest, I leave my SGS3 in Power Saver mode and truthfully, I am blown away with the battery life. The one big feature of AOKP I definitely miss is the Fast Charge option. I have 2A chargers in my car and home and would love to get back to charging the device from ~10% to full in 30 min or less. That was freakin' awesome. I'm waiting on my Anker battery, so I'd love to see a little more time squeezed out of the stock, cause that would just make the Anker 2200mah even more "yummy" :laugh:

Stable ICS/JB ROMs?

Hey.
I've been on jb roms since they came out for desire s and have been using ics before that. However... ics roms have been in beta stage since ever and have not really advanced in terms of having stable or even working main functions. Well this is because of the fact that our devs did not have kernel sources. There have been words that kernel source release would solve all our major issues like front cam and others. But kernel source has been released and I'm seeing a decline in our forum's traffic and in development. I know i's partly due to many original members leaving. But I also hear that devs are facing difficulty in making the kernel. So I want to ask, will we ever have fully stable ics or jb roms or is this not a possibility?
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Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM, AKOP and JB source build threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!

ben_pyett said:
Sorry for the tone, but this is a pretty pointless thread (IMO) there are already several others in a similar vein that exist and as we don't have a time machine and can't see into the future....although speculation appears to what the majority of threads contains these days....
This is now unfortunately an old device and as you rightly pointed out lots of the forums previous users have moved on to bigger and better new devices so the forum traffic was always bound to fall. We still have several devs that are developing for this device so don't do them a dis-service by suggesting that no progress has been made. Just look at the CM and AKOP threads for examples.....
Since the release of the kernel source - progress has certainly been made, just look at the tweaked kernel we can now use, in which we are now able to UV & OC not to mention that the wifi tether issues are now resolved... everything takes time, so be patient....or learn to code yourself and help out!
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I fully understand the devs' hard work and their dedications. That's not what this thread is asking. It seems to many devs that they are still having a hard time adjusting ics and jb to our device even upon kernel source release. Despite the prior speculation that things would be much easier with kernel source. So I was bringing the problem forth to see if it is possible for us to have stable ics or jb roms. No need to be all defensive. Just want an objective discussion
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custom roms are rearly FULLY stable. there is always a little bug here and there. but since the release of the official ICS and the latest kernel source ICS roms are getting mature at last. and if you're still not satisfied, wait a month more. or flash the official ICS and have a really stable rom now.
JB is another story. there is no native kernel source for it and i doubt there will ever be.

I totally see where you are both coming from. The kernel source was released over a fortnight ago.
I agree with Ben, in respect we should appreciate what the current devs have given us etc etc,
But I also agree with skim, I am quite surprised that with the kernel source released, AOSP still hasn't got a functional kernel based on our Saga build. (Andromadus is using a kernel port)
I was hoping for at least ICS AOSP to be working by now, but I guess that is not the case
The forums have certainly gone a lot quieter now, and I suspect by the end of the year, even more of us will leave
But back to the original point, I wish that things could pick up like they were this time last year, but sadly that will never happen.
I have no intentions of insulting any devs, I truly appreciate the work they have provided us, and I haven't contributed anything particularly useful, so I am in no position to do so, but this is just how I feel.
When I look through forums like the S2, I envy the development... even after a year, ROMs are still on full scale, with so many choices to choose from...
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Unfortunately Oly I don't think that you can compare the DS to the SGS2. We unfortunately were never a main stream device (like the SGS2), we sadly missed the boat, with the Sensation coming out shortly after our release, I reckon that the focus went from DHD to Sensation and the limelight never really shone on us long enough to get a main stream following.
The Samsung onslaught appears to unbeatable currently sadly even the One series hasn't really made a dent.

We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
P.S.
For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Well, that was philosophical!
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Skanob said:
We must all accept the inevitable that our device (Desire S) is by fact outdated with the phase of how fast mobile technology comes. That said, sooner or later, our thread will surely die.
It is with great appreciation that our devs are prolonging the inevitable. Most will surely be having new devices comes these coming months. I too will be leaving the scene as a new device is surely coming at hand in two months time.
Everything in our life changes. One must be oblige to flow with it. If not, one will be left alone and at lost.
P.S.
For an answer for the OP. THERE WILL BE a stable JB/ICS ROM as long as a dev will be willing to still work on it. If not, then THERE WILL BE NOT.
Long answer short: we will never know unless there will be one.
Moral of this post: learn to accept the truth that you have to move on to a new device if you really want to have a stable up-to-date ROM, even past JB.
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Haha I don't know about you man... but I'm a student and learning to move on to a new device is not as easy as it sounds. I'm stuck with a contract until next April. So ill be sticking around here till then xD
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I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...

SteveO_ said:
I think custom roms have advantages, but it's not easy for the devs to make them perfect.
If i compare the stock ROM of x10mini/pro with custom cm6/7 ROM, the stock ROM sucks...
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htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.

anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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At the moment i'm using stock rom (sense) too, cause my prefered custom rom has still a problem with battery drain...
As soon this is fixed, i'll go to ICS DS again...
But at all, the ICS stock rom is working very nice...

Fallout v4.4.0 is pretty stable to me, been using since a while now.

Tonight i'll try Fallout 5.0, let's see how it is... :highfive:

MIUI 2.8.x or 2.9.x
I recently flashed MIUI 2.8.17 and its been a joyful ride! It is very very stable. I had to reboot only once so far and that is an intermittent bug. BT/WiFi/Tethering/Camera etc. etc. everything works! (hard to find that in an ICS ROM)! Its my daily ROM now.. :good:

Fallout 5.0
I got myself S-off and rooted 2 days ago.
The first custom rom Ive tried is Fallout 5.0. Only one day into my test and it's very stable and fast compared to stock gingerbread.
I'm very pleased with it so far :good:

anazhd said:
htc stock rom ( sense ) , indeed, the best stock of all android. I've been using samsung, motorola and sony, but nothing is better than sense.
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My Gingerbread stock rom experience made me root my phone. I kept getting the white screen with the green HTC logo and no matter what I did it always came back. I have now tried out about 5 or 6 custom roms and this issue no longer appears. Of course there are other issues, some of which are serious. But there are ROMs which are in general more than good enough for day to day usage. I currently use ICE-DSv5 but for example Fallout v4.4 is stable (v5 is not stable for me but it is for a lot of people).
If you are interested you can look at my other thread here called "My First Rooted Phone" for an overview of my experiences so far.

Blindbean and Codename are great JB roms, not fully stable, but good to work with.

Yes. I flash every recent roms so I know how they are. I started this thread to get an idea of if it is possible to have a stable rom. The devs have been struggling with major bugs since early this year and we're still stuck with the same bugs we had prior to the release of the kernel sources. I do know it is a difficult process. But wanted an answer from a dev. Is it possible for us to have working front cam, proper video playback, etc. ? This isn't complaining btw just wanted an answer other than "be patient. Be thankful. It's good enough"
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if you want stable flash rooted stock. it has everything you mentioned. combine it with tweaked kernel and you have even more...

Most stable ROM?

I got myself the Nexus 4 and I've given my SGS4G to my mom and put it back to stock. She's happy with the stock ROM with root, but would like better battery life. Now being less into modding she isn't as tolerant of bugs as I was when I had the phone. So I was wondering what your personal opinions are on what was the most stable bug-free rom you can remember? Doesn't have to be ICS. It would also be nice if battery life was better than stock (I think almost all roms I had were). I can remember there being a few roms I have flashed in the past where I never ran into a bug, I just can't remember what they were. Thoughts?

Barebones paired with the Kernel with a twist. It's GB, which means she can get wifi-calling (think that the twist still allowed that) and other nifty things that T-Mo originally offered, but with most of the junk ripped out. Stable (as any GB goes... thanks T-Mo for the buggy stock kernel without full source) and a good base.

From what I know the wi-fi calling is embedded and not an APK. If you install it will just fail.
I use the Team Acid CM9 unofficial port. Everything works except video player.
For everyday user sticking to stock From would be best. You should unlock it and de-bloat for better performance.
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Cm9 video works with release 8 for the video. Im pretty saddened that the next two releases after 8 they are using as a primary because of updated kernel. Like im sorry people want video recording and playback. So if they cant make the kernel fix to implement that, they should wait or not bother. Why fix if not broken, better yet why break it. I say barebones is the most stable. I do not believe contrary to some devs that stock has the reboot issue, i just dont. I think its the custom kernels. There may be however a libk between the battery and the reboot. For heavens sake if u have battery problems order a new one from amazon. Its ten bucks and makes a world of difference. You will see those reboots disappear for the most part
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turtlepa said:
So if they cant make the kernel fix to implement that, they should wait or not bother. Why fix if not broken, better yet why break it. I say barebones is the most stable. I do not believe contrary to some devs that stock has the reboot issue, i just dont. I think its the custom kernels.
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Development is good. If you don't want developers to work on bugs, don't flash their stuff. Or leave. But don't tell them to stop trying out different things to work on bugs just because you don't like it.
Unless you're the developer, and you're telling yourself to knock it off. But otherwise, let the talent work.
And if you aren't a developer, stop trying to tell them that they're wrong just because your anecdotal experiences don't match what they know about the code.

Barebones and Basic with a twist ...
To me has the most working features
and is the most stable of all the ROMs..
I have went back to it more times.
O and WiFi Calling is if I remember a system app in barebones .its tutorial is one of the first notifications that comes up on first boot and it works great.You can almost get 2 days of battery life on 1 charge and use the phone.
GPS locks in under 10 seconds if you flash the GPS patch and even video works...lol..maybe even TV OUT works...lol
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