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When I temp-root my Shift, I go in and delete apps like nascar and sfl (NFL app), wait a bit, and they come back. I'd like them permanently gone to save space and CPU.
1) How do I delete them for good until reboot?
2) How do I delete them for good even after I reboot?
I guess my technical question is, there must be a script somewhere that's restoring these nuisance apps - where do I find it?
Links to people who have already asked this/existing solutions welcome. Sprint MIGHT release one more patch to this phone, so I'd ideally like to avoid going so far down the custom ROM route that I can't take advantage of that update - but it's not a must.
For the curious, I temp rooted using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185243
I have 2.3.3. Most of the posts regarding permanent root and custom ROMs focus on using 2.2 and Visionary, which only works on 2.2, so it's hard to sift through for threads that apply to my phone.
hi. download titanium back up. then temp root. then delete those stock apps from there. BUT MAKE SURE YOU DO A REGULAR DELETE. DONT DO THE DELETE THAT REQUIRES A RESTART BECAUSE THOSE STOCK APPS WILL COME RIGHT BACK. Hope this helps!!
Not sure why your so hesitant to Full Root. I sort of understand the whole waiting for the next Sprint update thing. But keep in mind when and if there is another update it will be full of bloatware. If you Full Root you will have more control over your phone. Plus if and when there is another update, I'd still wait for the Devs here to get their hands on it. It will just be better IMO
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With temp root they will keep coming back upon a reboot. Gotta perm root to fully delete them. And I wouldn't worry about any future Sprint OTAs, you'll be able to grab a rooted version from here. The 2.3 OTA that Sprint put out was available here, already rooted, within about 3hrs of release
I believe if you freeze the apps using titanium backup they won't come back even after reboot. If I'm wrong someone please correct me but I thought I had read that somewhere
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
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Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.
Hello everyone - Please apologize if this is not the right place to ask this and feel free to move this thread where it belongs. So I have finally decided to root my HTC Inspire (Desire) - primarily to get rid of the bloatware and improve the battery life. I had a question before I do it - do I need to make any kind of backup before I proceed? Also, how easy/hard is it to go back to stock after you root? When you get an official software update, you need to be in the stock mode before you can get that update, correct?
I am planning to use the titanium backup pro after I root to freeze the bloatware - is there a better option available to do that or would you guys recommend titanium? Thanks much!
After you root, you won't want to have any "official" updates. We're not getting official ICS anyway. The ace hack kit does include a method to return to stock if you really needed to, say for warranty purposes. Rooting won't erase anything on your phone, but make sure all your contacts and everything are synced before you flash a new ROM. You need to wipe everything before that.
Titanium backup is the way to go for freezing/removing bloatware. Just be careful what you remove. I suggest freezing something before removing it to make sure the it doesn't make the phone act wierd. I made the mistake of removing a system app that I thought I had no need for, and it made my sync stick. Always had to manually cancel it or it would run forever. I ended up having to reflash to fix it.
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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There will be no more updates from AT&T or HTC for the Inspire. Your only choice for updates will be to use a custom rom. They are much better than anything "official".
A back up is recommended before you start making changes once you have root. It is easier to restore a nandroid than to flash a RUU file.
Apps that have been frozen do not use CPU or ram but are still using storage.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25822169
I had posted something for the user in this thread maybe the info I made could help you out or give you the idea
My Inspire
to ease you mind, I just rooted my Inspire using aace.. its totally easy basically plug and play, just read the directions and make sure you followed the prereq' directions.. Its not hard at all and very worth it, can belive i didnt do it sooner, just flased CM7 today and it AWESOME!!!! do and dont look back!!
Okay, so it seems from the official OTA thread that there seems to be no problem with being rooted while updating. I will probably do OTA rootkeeper anyways just for safe measure, though.
Do I need to revert/uninstall any of my root apps? The one I have in question is Chainfire3D, since it changed some of the graphics drivers. Do I need to revert this before the update? And if so, or if it uninstalls the drivers with the update, will I need to reinstall the drivers? Nobody seems to be answering that question in the thread
Thanks to whoever helps. I am just a noob, sorry!
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Okay, so it seems from the official OTA thread that there seems to be no problem with being rooted while updating. I will probably do OTA rootkeeper anyways just for safe measure, though.
Do I need to revert/uninstall any of my root apps? The one I have in question is Chainfire3D, since it changed some of the graphics drivers. Do I need to revert this before the update? And if so, or if it uninstalls the drivers with the update, will I need to reinstall the drivers? Nobody seems to be answering that question in the thread
Thanks to whoever helps. I am just a noob, sorry!
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You need to be stock 2.3.6 to install the ICS OTA, meaning no changes to build.prop or files or so on. If you're referring to the Chainfire 3D plugins, yes you'll need to reinstall them if you're still going to be using Chainfire...
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You need to be stock 2.3.6 to install the ICS OTA, meaning no changes to build.prop or files or so on. If you're referring to the Chainfire 3D plugins, yes you'll need to reinstall them if you're still going to be using Chainfire...
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Okay, thanks! What other root apps mess with the build.prop file? Like I'm running an ad-blocker (shame, I know), Titanium Backup, some root options on juicedefender, and others I can't remember?
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Okay, thanks! What other root apps mess with the build.prop file? Like I'm running an ad-blocker (shame, I know), Titanium Backup, some root options on juicedefender, and others I can't remember?
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Just make sure you are completely stock, meaning that no system files are touched, and if they have been, make sure you restore them to stock. As for the root apps, just delete them and their files. Applications such as Ad Blocker, JD, and TiB won't hinder your ability to install the update, but get rid of them prior just to make sure there's no unforseen comlications. Also, if you have the Atrix 2 Bootstrap and CWM Recovery installed, you'll need to delete those files as well -the logwrapper, andy CWM files, etc...
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Just make sure you are completely stock, meaning that no system files are touched, and if they have been, make sure you restore them to stock. As for the root apps, just delete them and their files. Applications such as Ad Blocker, JD, and TiB won't hinder your ability to install the update, but get rid of them prior just to make sure there's no unforseen comlications. Also, if you have the Atrix 2 Bootstrap and CWM Recovery installed, you'll need to delete those files as well -the logwrapper, andy CWM files, etc...
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Is it more advantageous just to backup with titanium, FXZ to stock, then update and root?
Also, I saw that some people who had an mount_ext3.sh edit were getting soft bricks :/ since I edited this before the 2.3.6 update, would that hurt this process? I am honestly thinking that FXZing back to 2.3.5 might be my best option at this point to minimize problems.
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Is it more advantageous just to backup with titanium, FXZ to stock, then update and root?
Also, I saw that some people who had an mount_ext3.sh edit were getting soft bricks :/ since I edited this before the 2.3.6 update, would that hurt this process? I am honestly thinking that FXZing back to 2.3.5 might be my best option at this point to minimize problems.
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I can give you my opinions, which can be taken however you choose. TiB isn't something I recommend to people, since it has been known to cause more headaches than it does good. If you're worried about your apps being re-installed easily, just make sure before you update that you back up with Google's servers (everything), so that if you have a WiFi connection at home or at the office or wherever, you can install the OTA, and once it has installed you can re-enter your Google account info, go to the Play Store, and in a few minutes your perviously installed applications will re-install.
I haven't looked into the issues with the mount_ext3.sh, but if I were doing this, I would just FXZ back to 2.3.6 (however seen best to do so) so that I have the assurance that when installing the OTA I won't run into any problems. Now, you can do whatever you are most comfortable with, and that would be my recommendation, but again it's all up to you. Whatever you do, and however you choose to go about updating, it is probably safer to be "safe" than sorry. I wish I could be of more usefulness, but my Atrix 2 is currently in the hands of Mototola after the whole 'leak #2 to GB' test FXZ, which I worked with the dev team to some great lengths to get this resolved, but opted to send out for warranty before my time expired to do so.
My point in saying all of that is this, you're dealing with the official OTA, regardless of whatever you've installed, tweaked, modded, etc., so all you need to worry about is that you're bone stock, and then you can worry with everything else afterward -unlike many of us that tested the leaks only to find that we just didn't know enough about this to avoid bricks, as in some situations...
Just wanted to thank you again for the extra knowledge. Just FYI, it would not upgrade, even after removing all of those tweaks, so I had to FXZ down to 2.3.5 and start over. Not sure why, but it was probably a tweak I did at some point that I forgot about.
Hey there!
I was wondering if rooting via towelroot would affect OTA updates? Someone told me you don't get OTA if the system files, bootloader or kernel have been changed. I am completely on stock now. Will apps like Droidwall, Titanium Backup or Greenify make any changes to the system files, hence rendering my phone not eligible for OTA?
Thanks
Read the OTA helpdesk thread about OTA. Link in my signature. Those apps should be fine but you should root properly and use a custom recovery of you're going to be rooted and forget about OTAs.
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I agree! Being rooted without a custom recovery and/or not knowing how to use adb/fastboot is almost asking for trouble.
@rootSU gave you the best info.
You have a Nexus. You can flash stock in minutes when you need to do an ota. Or forget that and flash the update through fastboot. I've never taken an OTA on any device.
Thanks for the replies folks. I just dont feel like unlocking my bootloader at this very moment since there's stuff to backup and I am at the peak of my laziness ( and also very busy to do stuff with my phone)
Edit: Yeah, I sideloaded the 4.4.4 update. Can I sideload any update like this in the future even if I don't receive automatic updates? (i.e doesn't sideload verify that all original files are intact?)
Probably best avoid root in that case then.
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Nice. You relax and we'll figure it out? That's not how XDA works my friend. Ask for help, put some effort in after you get answers. That's how it works.
I'd leave the phone as is and call it a day.
The question has been answered and the thread is going the wrong direction, so I'm going to stop it here.
@Moonheart All the info about OTA's are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217
It outlines what you need to do and how to prepare your phone for updates.
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