Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Jackos said:
Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.
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If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
unbreakab1e said:
If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
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1) You won't get it from Verizon, but when gingerbread does get released all the devs will make a ROM and you'll have it in no time but only if you use a custom rom.
2) There is a way to unroot back to stock but there is nothing wrong with making a backup.
3) I like my root access. More options to get more out of your phone (over clocking, themes, custom ROMs, kernels, etc)
4) Your warrenty is void (unless you can unroot it and take it back to stock. They will never know) and you can mess up your phone if you don't read and double check instructions before doing anything
Hope I helped
unbreakab1e said:
If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
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1. Ability to install custom ROMs lets you have Gingerbread before Moto and VZW send it out OTA.
2. Probably a good idea; however I didn't on my Incredible, as there are a lot of ways to return to stock without doing that for the Inc. and I assume for the X too.
3. YES. Wifi tether without paying VZW $20 a month, custom ROMs, etc...
4. Technically, it voids your warranty. But, like you said, return it to stock and s-off and they'll never be able to tell
Also, there's a small chance to brick your phone; if you follow all instructions exactly, that's not an issue. And remember: ALWAYS back up your ROM before flashing a new one, be it through ROM Manager or through nandroid. And, if a kernel flash goes wrong and you get stuck at the 1st startup screen, relfash your ROM through ClockworkMod Recovery. From the .zip, not the backup. Titanium backup is good for apps backup, and MyBackup is dead simple for contacts/bookmarks/etc.
Hope this helps, and enjoy your Droid X!
Rooting is nothing, its what you do with it. If you are not interested in overclocking or a custom rom then dont do it, otherwise you must do it.
IF i had a droidX i would be soooo happy
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
unbreakab1e said:
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
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Themes: The theme thread should say what ROMs it works with. If the one you're using isn't on that list and you're feeling adventurous, make a nandroid backup through your recovery and try flashing it! Themes don't work on the stock ROM, however.
SuperOneClickRoot I think it is, and Z4 both root your phone, but SuperOneClick runs from your PC, and Z4 from the phone (I think, HTC's have unrevoked)
Either *should* be fine.
OTA updates: When I rooted my Incredible, I was concerned about this too. Then I installed a custom ROM... don't worry about OTA.
Oh, and CyanogenMod. It's a ROM based on the official Google code's open source with a LOT of extra settings. Haven't used it myself, but I've heard great things about it.
Hi, I am waiting for my HTC Sensation to arrive from eBay. New to android and have been reading about rooting. Just want to make sure I am getting this clear:
So, to root, I'll need to to the S-off thing with revolution, then clockwork recovery, then SU to actually root it right?
I am not sure whether I need to root it, but I am interested in unlocking it for SIM and I read there's a way to do it if the phone is rooted. Also, I probably don't need some of the T-mobile apps and want to delete it. However, do I have necessarily have to flash a custom ROM after I rooted it? Can I just use what came with the HTC?
However, if I do this, I guess I can't update through HTC/T-mobile anymore right? So I'll have to flash some ROM, but does it have some modify ROM, or can I use the ROM that's official from HTC?
Can someone please correct me if I misunderstood the process? And also, can I reverse all this if I decide I just want to use it the way it was shipped except simunlocked, and be able to update newer version of the OS from HTC.
Thanks
Sensation rooting
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
pretty much yes to your questions...even if you root you can stay with your stock rom and just use titanium backup to delete all the junk u dont want. Also, even if you cant get updates officially, devs here are nice enuf to post the newest stock roms for you to flash so dont worry. so i suggest you read these three threads to start off and have fun (just read directions very carefully)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137311
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
edit: ah, i guess someone else was replying too
darryll4sh0 said:
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
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Thanks for the quick reply. So I can only remove some t-mobile apps if it's rooted right? I was thinking of updating to the newest version before considering rooting. I think I will be kinda in the same situation as you....so when you say stock rooted rom...it's basically the same ROM as what t-mobile has with SENSE etc...but can be apply to a rooted phone without losing root right?
Finally, since you're not using any custom ROM and stuff... do u find it worthwhile rooting? what other advantage have you notice if you're using the stock ROM?
Thanks again!
rooting sensation
My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
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My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
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Great. I think I'll just stick with the 2.3.4 firmware for now before considering flashing any custom ROMs etc.
So just so I am clear, I should update the unrooted phone to 2.3.4 when I get it. then I can perform the S-off, clockwork, superuser to get it rooted and just leave it as it is and use the existing ROM as it came with the phone. Until I need to update to a higher version, I will then flash a rooted version of whatever t-mobile came out with from here. Is that the deal?
Finally, what's superCID? Do I need that?
Thanks again.. you guys been a great help! I can't wait to play around with this when I get the phone this weekend
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Yep your correct....
As for super CID is something like a carrier unlock. This has something to do with updates i think. but by adding this you can flash any carrier's rom onto your phone. for example vodafone and orange are both 2 different europe phone companies and they both include different apps on their roms just like tmobile give there special apps. With super-CID you can put anyone of those carries rom on you phone regardless if it's a europe, usa, or asia sensation. but you don't need- i haven't put it on either.
Hello everyone - Please apologize if this is not the right place to ask this and feel free to move this thread where it belongs. So I have finally decided to root my HTC Inspire (Desire) - primarily to get rid of the bloatware and improve the battery life. I had a question before I do it - do I need to make any kind of backup before I proceed? Also, how easy/hard is it to go back to stock after you root? When you get an official software update, you need to be in the stock mode before you can get that update, correct?
I am planning to use the titanium backup pro after I root to freeze the bloatware - is there a better option available to do that or would you guys recommend titanium? Thanks much!
After you root, you won't want to have any "official" updates. We're not getting official ICS anyway. The ace hack kit does include a method to return to stock if you really needed to, say for warranty purposes. Rooting won't erase anything on your phone, but make sure all your contacts and everything are synced before you flash a new ROM. You need to wipe everything before that.
Titanium backup is the way to go for freezing/removing bloatware. Just be careful what you remove. I suggest freezing something before removing it to make sure the it doesn't make the phone act wierd. I made the mistake of removing a system app that I thought I had no need for, and it made my sync stick. Always had to manually cancel it or it would run forever. I ended up having to reflash to fix it.
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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There will be no more updates from AT&T or HTC for the Inspire. Your only choice for updates will be to use a custom rom. They are much better than anything "official".
A back up is recommended before you start making changes once you have root. It is easier to restore a nandroid than to flash a RUU file.
Apps that have been frozen do not use CPU or ram but are still using storage.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25822169
I had posted something for the user in this thread maybe the info I made could help you out or give you the idea
My Inspire
to ease you mind, I just rooted my Inspire using aace.. its totally easy basically plug and play, just read the directions and make sure you followed the prereq' directions.. Its not hard at all and very worth it, can belive i didnt do it sooner, just flased CM7 today and it AWESOME!!!! do and dont look back!!
So I'll be bringing a new S3 home tonight and I want to root it immediately. It looks like the method here is the way to go. But my main concern is about OTAs. I've heard that the latest OTA stops you from being able to root, but I haven't confirmed if that's true for the S3 or if this tool works even with the latest OTAs (it says "all OTAs"). In the thread for the root tool (which I'm unable to comment on directly as a newer account), a user was recommending downloading all OTAs before rooting so that the phone was as up-to-date as possible. Is this advised? I don't want to do anything that would permanently prevent me from rooting the phone, but I also want to follow best practices for getting everything running smoothly.
Also, when it comes to stopping OTA prompts (which should fail to install after TWRP is in), are the instructions found here for Sprint phones relevant/good for Verizon phones also? If not, is there any discussion of the best methods for stopping OTA prompts here in the Verizon forum. I wasn't able to find any. And do most custom ROMs I might choose to install already come configured to block such prompts?
I don't think that's true or at least I haven't heard anything about that at all. I have one question though. Why do you want to root your S3? Personally, I haven't had the urge to root this phone like I did with my Motorola Droid Bionic. With the Bionic, rooting it meant that I can add things to that phone that are automatically included with the S3.
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you can go ahead an do the ota then use casual an root then make a backup an your good to go from the
Ah, well, there are just certain things that I consider musts that require root, e.g. Titanium Backup, custom ROMs, etc. I like to tweak and optimize things.
So you mean that it's not true that any OTA for the S3 prevents future rooting? Or something else I was referring to?
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you can go ahead an do the ota then use casual an root then make a backup an your good to go from the
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Thanks!
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
No you dont need to be unrooted to update your android version.
You need to have the stock recovery and rom. The update isnt available for everyone yet
you will get a update notification just wait
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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You technically voided your warranty when you rooted. But no big deal.
You can download the update and sideload on your own, or wait for the OTA to come to you. If all you have is root, stock recovery and no system mods it will update on its own.
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Hi do not worry. Those posts really do not apply to you yet. You have a phone that is stock meaning, you bought it and using it. If you keep it like that you never have to worry about update. Google will automatically push the update to your phone by next week. Incidentally the phone is also a developer phone, so people usually play around with it. Root, custom roms, kernels etc. Now for these enthusiasts to get the update, they have to unroot, ,to stock just like your phone. After getting the update they will start messing with it again:laugh: this forum being the developers forum of the Internet is the reason why you are seeing all those posts.
Now you are sitting on a Ferrari phone, using it as a Honda. Some day in the future you will let it run at indy500
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Did you mean to ask "do you need to root to get the 4.4.1 OTA"?? If not, your question doesn't seem to add up....
You definitely do NOT need to root to get the OTA. You can wait for the update to be pushed out, or, if you are impatient, you can sideload using ADB or install from recovery.
If you are rooted, as the other folks explained, you may need to get back to stock before you can install 4.4.1
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
I'm quite happy with everything stock and don't plan on doing any mods.
Also, I sideloaded 4.4.1, but would I have gotten the OTA with TWRP?
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To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
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Yes, get the recovery.img from the factory image and: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. That'll put the stock recovery back on your device
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thnks alot you guys!!
this really helped me out!
i know i am new to android right now and dont know the ins and outs of this os completely... i really liked a reply which said i am sitting on a ferrarri and using it like a honda..lol...i will run it like a veyron in some time but for now my car comes with a "L" sign and a speed limiter on it
thnks again you guys!