If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
unbreakab1e said:
If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
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1) You won't get it from Verizon, but when gingerbread does get released all the devs will make a ROM and you'll have it in no time but only if you use a custom rom.
2) There is a way to unroot back to stock but there is nothing wrong with making a backup.
3) I like my root access. More options to get more out of your phone (over clocking, themes, custom ROMs, kernels, etc)
4) Your warrenty is void (unless you can unroot it and take it back to stock. They will never know) and you can mess up your phone if you don't read and double check instructions before doing anything
Hope I helped
unbreakab1e said:
If so why?
I have the following questions:
#1 Can you still receive Android system updates such as Gingerbread right away once they're received?
#2 Before rooting, should I backup my phone just so I can restore it before returning to Verizon in case it's damaged physically?
#3 Is it worth rooting?
#4 What are ALL the DISadvantages of Rooting?
Thank you,
Please reply quickly.
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1. Ability to install custom ROMs lets you have Gingerbread before Moto and VZW send it out OTA.
2. Probably a good idea; however I didn't on my Incredible, as there are a lot of ways to return to stock without doing that for the Inc. and I assume for the X too.
3. YES. Wifi tether without paying VZW $20 a month, custom ROMs, etc...
4. Technically, it voids your warranty. But, like you said, return it to stock and s-off and they'll never be able to tell
Also, there's a small chance to brick your phone; if you follow all instructions exactly, that's not an issue. And remember: ALWAYS back up your ROM before flashing a new one, be it through ROM Manager or through nandroid. And, if a kernel flash goes wrong and you get stuck at the 1st startup screen, relfash your ROM through ClockworkMod Recovery. From the .zip, not the backup. Titanium backup is good for apps backup, and MyBackup is dead simple for contacts/bookmarks/etc.
Hope this helps, and enjoy your Droid X!
Rooting is nothing, its what you do with it. If you are not interested in overclocking or a custom rom then dont do it, otherwise you must do it.
IF i had a droidX i would be soooo happy
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
unbreakab1e said:
NEW questions that I have:
Can someone explain to me in detail these terms and how they're used with rooting:
Themes: I know what they are, but can you use themes with other Roms?
Roms: I sort of know what they are, but can you still get OTA updates, use themes with them, icon packs, etc?
Cynamod [not sure how it's spelled] what is it??
SuperClickRoot [Not sure what it's called, but what is it??]
Z4root [What's the difference between this and Superclickroot]?
What's better SuperClickRoot or Z4root? My android OS is 2.2.1. After rooting, can I still get OTA updates?
I plan on rooting TODAY, so my last question would be: if I end up bricking or somehow mess up and make my phone not open at all, and it was rooted the last time it was working, can Verizon know that I'm rooted if I try and return it for warranty [replacement etc]?
I'm going to be rooting to have the ability to use Roms, some apps that require rooting and some themes.
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Themes: The theme thread should say what ROMs it works with. If the one you're using isn't on that list and you're feeling adventurous, make a nandroid backup through your recovery and try flashing it! Themes don't work on the stock ROM, however.
SuperOneClickRoot I think it is, and Z4 both root your phone, but SuperOneClick runs from your PC, and Z4 from the phone (I think, HTC's have unrevoked)
Either *should* be fine.
OTA updates: When I rooted my Incredible, I was concerned about this too. Then I installed a custom ROM... don't worry about OTA.
Oh, and CyanogenMod. It's a ROM based on the official Google code's open source with a LOT of extra settings. Haven't used it myself, but I've heard great things about it.
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So I've been reading all these articles about rooting the Samsung Captivate and they all seem to say that rooting gives you the equivalent of admin access and basically its really useful.
What I want to know is if it is safe? I'm not really good at these things and I'm afraid that if I root it I might just screw up my phone because I don't understand what I'm doing. Also I've read that rooting your phone can sometimes render your phone unusable...is that a serious issue for the captivate?
I mainly want to just be able to have a complete backup, and be able to download apps from third party websites. (I have AT&T) I think rooting lets you do all that.
Also, I see all this talk about ROM's or something and I really don't understand what that is.
If i root my phone, will it wipe any data I have stored on my phone, like contacts and apps or something? Will I still be able to receive software updates from AT&T?
Please help...Thanks sooo much!!!
Hello there,
In first place, ROMs it's the name we usually call for the OS images that you run in your phone. You have the manufacturer ROM, with (probably) operator stuff in it. You can have a very different OS image, with different layout, more options (there are beautiful things around like CyanogenMod), etc. So, installing new ROMs sometimes is like installing a new Android OS on your phone (not exactly but something like that).
Rooting your phone doesn't clean your data, but it's always a good practice to do an application/data backup. Backup software: Titanium Backup (i use it and i really like it).
By adding an Android Recovery loader, you will have the possibility to make a nandroid backup which really allows you to keep EVERYTHING! (that happens after you root the phone, of course).
Advantages of having a rooted phone:
* removing operator applications you don't like in the standard ROM
* run 'root-only' software
* installing new ROMS
* upgrading the OS version of your phone to higher than supported by the manufacturer (some features may not work in this case)
Disadvantages:
* you may void your warranty
* you may brick your phone
* you can be messing around for a long time before having your phone stable once again (if you are curious to keep trying different ROMS, and app2sd and other add-ons)
Bricking your phone may happen if in the procedure to root your phone you need to flash it. In my case, I have a LG P500 and had the Android 2.2.2 - to root it I had to flash a 2.2 version and that was the risky part (some people say that 1 in every 4 phones get bricked in this procedure which I find very exagerated!)
So read the procedures carefully and have your phone with battery full before doing any rooting procedures. Do things calmly, follow every single step and if your get unsure of something, stop, ask, and after that move forward. You will be really happy when your phone is rooted !!
thank you!
The previous responder was a little zealous with the warnings. I have a Captivate, which is rooted and running a custom ROM (CyanogenMod 7).
First, rooting will not brick your phone. In theory, you void your warranty by doing so, but it's really easy to restore to factory state.
I don't recommend a custom ROM for someone who has basic questions like you've just asked. I'd reccommend first trying to get root, and run apps like Titanium backup, SGS Tools, etc. Be careful, research what you're doing, and make lots of backups. So long as you can enter download mode, you can flash back to factory.
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I was right where you are last August. I agree with ADT who says that you should root first and then work with apps that require root. Titanium Backup has been the most valuable for me out of all of those.
The chances of bricking your phone when you only root it is minimal. I guess it's possible, but honestly, I cannot see how. There are 2 files that are required called Bootloaders. Think of these as the AT&T screen and then the Samsung screen in a stock Captivate. If you do anything that changes/replaces these, you stand a great chance of bricking your phone. You don't do this when you root, only when you do something like try a custom ROM.
When you root your phone, you won't really notice anything different at first. However, if you look at your apps you will see a new one called Superuser. It is the app that is needed to run "rooted" apps. Also, once you root your phone, you will be able to take advantage of Amazon's market which has a free app a day.
If you decide to "unroot", it can be done rather easily, and you will lose the ability to do things like run rooted apps and Amazon apps (including any you downloaded).
I would recommend that you read as many posts about rooting as possible before you finally make the plunge. Read, read and read again. Make sure you know what you are doing before you do it and the risk of damage is minimal. I have bricked my phone many times, including the power button not working and was lucky to get it back. I learned the hard way by not knowing to read, read and read again.
Good luck!!
One other quick point. If you decide to play with custom ROMs, I recommend you stick with the ones that run Froyo, not Gingerbread. The Gingerbread ROMs are just starting to come out and I believe are not for someone just starting out. The instructions are a bit more complicated and the chance of bricking your phone are much greater.
The Froyo ROMs are much easier to install. However, as said in my last post, I'd get used to rooting your stock phone first before going that way.
stick with froyo and play with custom roms. To install custom roms just flash the custom rom in the recovery mode.
You're right guys. I mean, changing the bootloader is the risky part of the process, not the rooting itself. But the risky part is flashing a ROM (if that's needed to root the phone)...
In my case I had to downgrade my phone (LG P500) before applying root, so it was risky from the start - anyway, depending on the phone model, rooting / installling bootloader can be more or less risky...
Samsung. Couldnt he always ODIN back?
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Hi, I am waiting for my HTC Sensation to arrive from eBay. New to android and have been reading about rooting. Just want to make sure I am getting this clear:
So, to root, I'll need to to the S-off thing with revolution, then clockwork recovery, then SU to actually root it right?
I am not sure whether I need to root it, but I am interested in unlocking it for SIM and I read there's a way to do it if the phone is rooted. Also, I probably don't need some of the T-mobile apps and want to delete it. However, do I have necessarily have to flash a custom ROM after I rooted it? Can I just use what came with the HTC?
However, if I do this, I guess I can't update through HTC/T-mobile anymore right? So I'll have to flash some ROM, but does it have some modify ROM, or can I use the ROM that's official from HTC?
Can someone please correct me if I misunderstood the process? And also, can I reverse all this if I decide I just want to use it the way it was shipped except simunlocked, and be able to update newer version of the OS from HTC.
Thanks
Sensation rooting
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
pretty much yes to your questions...even if you root you can stay with your stock rom and just use titanium backup to delete all the junk u dont want. Also, even if you cant get updates officially, devs here are nice enuf to post the newest stock roms for you to flash so dont worry. so i suggest you read these three threads to start off and have fun (just read directions very carefully)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137311
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
edit: ah, i guess someone else was replying too
darryll4sh0 said:
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
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Thanks for the quick reply. So I can only remove some t-mobile apps if it's rooted right? I was thinking of updating to the newest version before considering rooting. I think I will be kinda in the same situation as you....so when you say stock rooted rom...it's basically the same ROM as what t-mobile has with SENSE etc...but can be apply to a rooted phone without losing root right?
Finally, since you're not using any custom ROM and stuff... do u find it worthwhile rooting? what other advantage have you notice if you're using the stock ROM?
Thanks again!
rooting sensation
My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
darryll4sh0 said:
My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
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Great. I think I'll just stick with the 2.3.4 firmware for now before considering flashing any custom ROMs etc.
So just so I am clear, I should update the unrooted phone to 2.3.4 when I get it. then I can perform the S-off, clockwork, superuser to get it rooted and just leave it as it is and use the existing ROM as it came with the phone. Until I need to update to a higher version, I will then flash a rooted version of whatever t-mobile came out with from here. Is that the deal?
Finally, what's superCID? Do I need that?
Thanks again.. you guys been a great help! I can't wait to play around with this when I get the phone this weekend
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Yep your correct....
As for super CID is something like a carrier unlock. This has something to do with updates i think. but by adding this you can flash any carrier's rom onto your phone. for example vodafone and orange are both 2 different europe phone companies and they both include different apps on their roms just like tmobile give there special apps. With super-CID you can put anyone of those carries rom on you phone regardless if it's a europe, usa, or asia sensation. but you don't need- i haven't put it on either.
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
Bump for answers.
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Jackos said:
Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.
So I'll be bringing a new S3 home tonight and I want to root it immediately. It looks like the method here is the way to go. But my main concern is about OTAs. I've heard that the latest OTA stops you from being able to root, but I haven't confirmed if that's true for the S3 or if this tool works even with the latest OTAs (it says "all OTAs"). In the thread for the root tool (which I'm unable to comment on directly as a newer account), a user was recommending downloading all OTAs before rooting so that the phone was as up-to-date as possible. Is this advised? I don't want to do anything that would permanently prevent me from rooting the phone, but I also want to follow best practices for getting everything running smoothly.
Also, when it comes to stopping OTA prompts (which should fail to install after TWRP is in), are the instructions found here for Sprint phones relevant/good for Verizon phones also? If not, is there any discussion of the best methods for stopping OTA prompts here in the Verizon forum. I wasn't able to find any. And do most custom ROMs I might choose to install already come configured to block such prompts?
I don't think that's true or at least I haven't heard anything about that at all. I have one question though. Why do you want to root your S3? Personally, I haven't had the urge to root this phone like I did with my Motorola Droid Bionic. With the Bionic, rooting it meant that I can add things to that phone that are automatically included with the S3.
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you can go ahead an do the ota then use casual an root then make a backup an your good to go from the
Ah, well, there are just certain things that I consider musts that require root, e.g. Titanium Backup, custom ROMs, etc. I like to tweak and optimize things.
So you mean that it's not true that any OTA for the S3 prevents future rooting? Or something else I was referring to?
RRF12 said:
you can go ahead an do the ota then use casual an root then make a backup an your good to go from the
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Thanks!
The goal: Get my sluggish phone (Razr Maxx HD, JB 4.1.2, currently 9.16.6.XT926.Verizon.en.US, rooted, bootloader locked) to be less sluggish.
The proposed method: Wipe phone and start over.
The "problem": Because I am rooted and want to stay that way, I am aware that I can't just do a factory reset. I believe that I need to unroot first, then wipe, then reroot. But there are many more possible methods to do this than there were before and I'm having trouble figuring out which might be the best method for me (or which will even work, at all).
Background: If I had just blindly done what I did the last time I wiped (I think I was starting from ICS 0.7.2 last time, not JB), I would have backed up everything, used DROID_RAZR_HD_Utility1.10 which I have from before (dates appear to be 1/28/2013) to go back to 0.6.25.X926., and, using the zip files I have from before, go from 0.6.25 to 0.7.2 to 9.1.41 to 9.16.6. (I was never able to successfully take OTA updates). Like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024423 BUT, now that I'm on JB, it's not clear to me that I can even do this. One post is telling me that if I'm on 9.16.6, I should NOT use Droid Razr HD Utility 1.10. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33610625#post33610625 and when I found the thread for the 1.21 utility, it also says no 9.16.6.
I've been wandering around the relevant posts that are linked from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247250
but for whatever reason, this is just making my head spin. I'm more confused about what I can and cannot do, than I was before I started. I think too many OTA versions have passed me by... I was happy with the way things were working so I just didn't care about updates, KitKat, etc. I don't have a good feel for how many versions there are between 9.16.6 and current.
My actual question: I think I could really use some help narrowing down my options. Do I have any options at all? If so, can anyone suggest what my realistic options actually are? I don't care if I end up in JB or KitKat at the end; I do want to be able to restore some of the data from some of my apps using Titanium Backup and/or MyBackup Pro; and I want to be rooted when I am done. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, dlc
dlc2001 said:
The goal: Get my sluggish phone (Razr Maxx HD, JB 4.1.2, currently 9.16.6.XT926.Verizon.en.US, rooted, bootloader locked) to be less sluggish.
The proposed method: Wipe phone and start over.
The "problem": Because I am rooted and want to stay that way, I am aware that I can't just do a factory reset. I believe that I need to unroot first, then wipe, then reroot. But there are many more possible methods to do this than there were before and I'm having trouble figuring out which might be the best method for me (or which will even work, at all).
Background: If I had just blindly done what I did the last time I wiped (I think I was starting from ICS 0.7.2 last time, not JB), I would have backed up everything, used DROID_RAZR_HD_Utility1.10 which I have from before (dates appear to be 1/28/2013) to go back to 0.6.25.X926., and, using the zip files I have from before, go from 0.6.25 to 0.7.2 to 9.1.41 to 9.16.6. (I was never able to successfully take OTA updates). Like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2024423 BUT, now that I'm on JB, it's not clear to me that I can even do this. One post is telling me that if I'm on 9.16.6, I should NOT use Droid Razr HD Utility 1.10. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33610625#post33610625 and when I found the thread for the 1.21 utility, it also says no 9.16.6.
I've been wandering around the relevant posts that are linked from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2247250
but for whatever reason, this is just making my head spin. I'm more confused about what I can and cannot do, than I was before I started. I think too many OTA versions have passed me by... I was happy with the way things were working so I just didn't care about updates, KitKat, etc. I don't have a good feel for how many versions there are between 9.16.6 and current.
My actual question: I think I could really use some help narrowing down my options. Do I have any options at all? If so, can anyone suggest what my realistic options actually are? I don't care if I end up in JB or KitKat at the end; I do want to be able to restore some of the data from some of my apps using Titanium Backup and/or MyBackup Pro; and I want to be rooted when I am done. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you, dlc
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to get rid of the slowness of the phone i recommend going to a lolipop rom , LP has to be the quickest my phone has ran... ever.
-step 1 use rsd lite to flash [4.4.2] 183.46.10 fxz (make sure it ends with a 10 not a 14 or 15 or you wont be able to unlock bootloader)
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-fxz-442-1834610/
-step 2 root and unlock use TR.apk (root)and motopocalypse.apk (bootloader unlock)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783912
-step 3 use ADB fastboot to Flash custom recovery, i personally use twrp there are others you can use if you decide to do the research
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/51883-recoverytwrp-2810-11-01-14/
-step 4 flash LP custom rom, i use blisspop, it seems to have the most updates at the moment . it has really impressed me
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/60153-rom502lollipopmsm8960-kkbl-blisspop-official/
that rom comes with supersu built in so you will have root. if your reason for having root is to have exposed, it doesnt work on lolipop so stop at sstep 3 and either flash a KK custom rom or just flash supersu which will give you root on stock kitkat
OK, I will spend a little more time absorbing/reading and then I'll give it a shot, thanks muchly. I want to do some backups just in case, so it'll take a while...
Couple of followup questions based on the reading I've done so far from the links you provided, just so I know what I'm doing before I do it:
1. I think I get Steps 1 and 2. After Step 2 I am rooted and on stock KK, correct? So if I stop there do I still need to "flash supersu" per your comment at the end? Does the root in step 2 put supersu in my apps, and if not can I not just install it from google play?
2. Seems like I can use the Step 1 method to flash back to JB (or any other FXZ I can find) if I want. If I do that, is there any way to root JB, or is this trip I'm about to take, a one-way trip? Just to clarify, JB hasn't always been slow for me... it's just slowed down recently. Not saying I want to go back to JB for sure, but I like to know what options I am closing off when I move forward, and reviews of KitKat are not universally splendid.... I hear you about the custom ROM but for various work-related reasons I may be better off staying stock (well, stock + root) for a while at least.
Again, thank you for your help.
dlc2001 said:
OK, I will spend a little more time absorbing/reading and then I'll give it a shot, thanks muchly. I want to do some backups just in case, so it'll take a while...
Couple of followup questions based on the reading I've done so far from the links you provided, just so I know what I'm doing before I do it:
1. I think I get Steps 1 and 2. After Step 2 I am rooted and on stock KK, correct? So if I stop there do I still need to "flash supersu" per your comment at the end? Does the root in step 2 put supersu in my apps, and if not can I not just install it from google play?
2. Seems like I can use the Step 1 method to flash back to JB (or any other FXZ I can find) if I want. If I do that, is there any way to root JB, or is this trip I'm about to take, a one-way trip? Just to clarify, JB hasn't always been slow for me... it's just slowed down recently. Not saying I want to go back to JB for sure, but I like to know what options I am closing off when I move forward, and reviews of KitKat are not universally splendid.... I hear you about the custom ROM but for various work-related reasons I may be better off staying stock (well, stock + root) for a while at least.
Again, thank you for your help.
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yes you can install it from playstore, but once your bootloader is unlocked you can always root by flashing in custom recovery. you dont need exploits anymore
All done, worked great!