When I temp-root my Shift, I go in and delete apps like nascar and sfl (NFL app), wait a bit, and they come back. I'd like them permanently gone to save space and CPU.
1) How do I delete them for good until reboot?
2) How do I delete them for good even after I reboot?
I guess my technical question is, there must be a script somewhere that's restoring these nuisance apps - where do I find it?
Links to people who have already asked this/existing solutions welcome. Sprint MIGHT release one more patch to this phone, so I'd ideally like to avoid going so far down the custom ROM route that I can't take advantage of that update - but it's not a must.
For the curious, I temp rooted using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185243
I have 2.3.3. Most of the posts regarding permanent root and custom ROMs focus on using 2.2 and Visionary, which only works on 2.2, so it's hard to sift through for threads that apply to my phone.
hi. download titanium back up. then temp root. then delete those stock apps from there. BUT MAKE SURE YOU DO A REGULAR DELETE. DONT DO THE DELETE THAT REQUIRES A RESTART BECAUSE THOSE STOCK APPS WILL COME RIGHT BACK. Hope this helps!!
Not sure why your so hesitant to Full Root. I sort of understand the whole waiting for the next Sprint update thing. But keep in mind when and if there is another update it will be full of bloatware. If you Full Root you will have more control over your phone. Plus if and when there is another update, I'd still wait for the Devs here to get their hands on it. It will just be better IMO
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With temp root they will keep coming back upon a reboot. Gotta perm root to fully delete them. And I wouldn't worry about any future Sprint OTAs, you'll be able to grab a rooted version from here. The 2.3 OTA that Sprint put out was available here, already rooted, within about 3hrs of release
I believe if you freeze the apps using titanium backup they won't come back even after reboot. If I'm wrong someone please correct me but I thought I had read that somewhere
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I wasn't happy with all the background and idle apps that I couldn't kill or uninstall (I assumed I'd be able to control them somehow) that HTC/Sprint had continuously running on my EVO. Being new to Android, I found the solution to control this was to root the device and manually remove the applications. However, I forgot that there was an update on June 4. I'm unable to post a link to the site I used to root my phone, but it's on a site called htcevohackscom and involved rooting with an image, using recovery mode, backing up, wiping all the cache, and installing a rooted EVO ROM.
I canceled the upgrade Sprint tried to push to my phone. My question is, if I accept that upgrade or they eventually force it upon me, will that root method remain intact? My understanding of the unrevoked method is that you must run it every time the phone is restarted, and it is still restricted in some senses.
Feel free to educate me in anything I've said incorrectly.
I was wondering about that myself. I've been waiting to root mine until Froyo gets pushed. But I'm having terrible battery life and it pisses me off that things like the MP3 Store keeps launching itself and I can't uninstall it.
That said, is there an easy way to just switch to root and accomplish this? I don't mind root being temporary... I do mind puting a custom ROM on it just to get root access.
well i know on a g1 that once a custom recovery is installed root stays.
so i assume if someone makes a decent recovery image for the evo than you get your results.
i found a decent method here at xda under the evo's android development section, that includes a custom recovery
I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?
Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!
I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....
The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.
if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.
Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
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Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.
Hello everyone - Please apologize if this is not the right place to ask this and feel free to move this thread where it belongs. So I have finally decided to root my HTC Inspire (Desire) - primarily to get rid of the bloatware and improve the battery life. I had a question before I do it - do I need to make any kind of backup before I proceed? Also, how easy/hard is it to go back to stock after you root? When you get an official software update, you need to be in the stock mode before you can get that update, correct?
I am planning to use the titanium backup pro after I root to freeze the bloatware - is there a better option available to do that or would you guys recommend titanium? Thanks much!
After you root, you won't want to have any "official" updates. We're not getting official ICS anyway. The ace hack kit does include a method to return to stock if you really needed to, say for warranty purposes. Rooting won't erase anything on your phone, but make sure all your contacts and everything are synced before you flash a new ROM. You need to wipe everything before that.
Titanium backup is the way to go for freezing/removing bloatware. Just be careful what you remove. I suggest freezing something before removing it to make sure the it doesn't make the phone act wierd. I made the mistake of removing a system app that I thought I had no need for, and it made my sync stick. Always had to manually cancel it or it would run forever. I ended up having to reflash to fix it.
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
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There will be no more updates from AT&T or HTC for the Inspire. Your only choice for updates will be to use a custom rom. They are much better than anything "official".
A back up is recommended before you start making changes once you have root. It is easier to restore a nandroid than to flash a RUU file.
Apps that have been frozen do not use CPU or ram but are still using storage.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25822169
I had posted something for the user in this thread maybe the info I made could help you out or give you the idea
My Inspire
to ease you mind, I just rooted my Inspire using aace.. its totally easy basically plug and play, just read the directions and make sure you followed the prereq' directions.. Its not hard at all and very worth it, can belive i didnt do it sooner, just flased CM7 today and it AWESOME!!!! do and dont look back!!
Okay, so it seems from the official OTA thread that there seems to be no problem with being rooted while updating. I will probably do OTA rootkeeper anyways just for safe measure, though.
Do I need to revert/uninstall any of my root apps? The one I have in question is Chainfire3D, since it changed some of the graphics drivers. Do I need to revert this before the update? And if so, or if it uninstalls the drivers with the update, will I need to reinstall the drivers? Nobody seems to be answering that question in the thread
Thanks to whoever helps. I am just a noob, sorry!
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Okay, so it seems from the official OTA thread that there seems to be no problem with being rooted while updating. I will probably do OTA rootkeeper anyways just for safe measure, though.
Do I need to revert/uninstall any of my root apps? The one I have in question is Chainfire3D, since it changed some of the graphics drivers. Do I need to revert this before the update? And if so, or if it uninstalls the drivers with the update, will I need to reinstall the drivers? Nobody seems to be answering that question in the thread
Thanks to whoever helps. I am just a noob, sorry!
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You need to be stock 2.3.6 to install the ICS OTA, meaning no changes to build.prop or files or so on. If you're referring to the Chainfire 3D plugins, yes you'll need to reinstall them if you're still going to be using Chainfire...
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You need to be stock 2.3.6 to install the ICS OTA, meaning no changes to build.prop or files or so on. If you're referring to the Chainfire 3D plugins, yes you'll need to reinstall them if you're still going to be using Chainfire...
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Okay, thanks! What other root apps mess with the build.prop file? Like I'm running an ad-blocker (shame, I know), Titanium Backup, some root options on juicedefender, and others I can't remember?
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Okay, thanks! What other root apps mess with the build.prop file? Like I'm running an ad-blocker (shame, I know), Titanium Backup, some root options on juicedefender, and others I can't remember?
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Just make sure you are completely stock, meaning that no system files are touched, and if they have been, make sure you restore them to stock. As for the root apps, just delete them and their files. Applications such as Ad Blocker, JD, and TiB won't hinder your ability to install the update, but get rid of them prior just to make sure there's no unforseen comlications. Also, if you have the Atrix 2 Bootstrap and CWM Recovery installed, you'll need to delete those files as well -the logwrapper, andy CWM files, etc...
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Just make sure you are completely stock, meaning that no system files are touched, and if they have been, make sure you restore them to stock. As for the root apps, just delete them and their files. Applications such as Ad Blocker, JD, and TiB won't hinder your ability to install the update, but get rid of them prior just to make sure there's no unforseen comlications. Also, if you have the Atrix 2 Bootstrap and CWM Recovery installed, you'll need to delete those files as well -the logwrapper, andy CWM files, etc...
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Is it more advantageous just to backup with titanium, FXZ to stock, then update and root?
Also, I saw that some people who had an mount_ext3.sh edit were getting soft bricks :/ since I edited this before the 2.3.6 update, would that hurt this process? I am honestly thinking that FXZing back to 2.3.5 might be my best option at this point to minimize problems.
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Is it more advantageous just to backup with titanium, FXZ to stock, then update and root?
Also, I saw that some people who had an mount_ext3.sh edit were getting soft bricks :/ since I edited this before the 2.3.6 update, would that hurt this process? I am honestly thinking that FXZing back to 2.3.5 might be my best option at this point to minimize problems.
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I can give you my opinions, which can be taken however you choose. TiB isn't something I recommend to people, since it has been known to cause more headaches than it does good. If you're worried about your apps being re-installed easily, just make sure before you update that you back up with Google's servers (everything), so that if you have a WiFi connection at home or at the office or wherever, you can install the OTA, and once it has installed you can re-enter your Google account info, go to the Play Store, and in a few minutes your perviously installed applications will re-install.
I haven't looked into the issues with the mount_ext3.sh, but if I were doing this, I would just FXZ back to 2.3.6 (however seen best to do so) so that I have the assurance that when installing the OTA I won't run into any problems. Now, you can do whatever you are most comfortable with, and that would be my recommendation, but again it's all up to you. Whatever you do, and however you choose to go about updating, it is probably safer to be "safe" than sorry. I wish I could be of more usefulness, but my Atrix 2 is currently in the hands of Mototola after the whole 'leak #2 to GB' test FXZ, which I worked with the dev team to some great lengths to get this resolved, but opted to send out for warranty before my time expired to do so.
My point in saying all of that is this, you're dealing with the official OTA, regardless of whatever you've installed, tweaked, modded, etc., so all you need to worry about is that you're bone stock, and then you can worry with everything else afterward -unlike many of us that tested the leaks only to find that we just didn't know enough about this to avoid bricks, as in some situations...
Just wanted to thank you again for the extra knowledge. Just FYI, it would not upgrade, even after removing all of those tweaks, so I had to FXZ down to 2.3.5 and start over. Not sure why, but it was probably a tweak I did at some point that I forgot about.