I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?
Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!
I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....
The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.
if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.
Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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I'm very new to rooting, I've looked at many of the Root processes and I've been a lurker for about 4 months. and i've about decided to use Bubby's for the sake of easy rooting process.
I do have a couple of questions that I cannot seem to find solid answers on.
1) If I root using bubby's method, the rom that gets installed, is that still an inspire rom? or is it a Gingerbread rom? If it is not a gingerbread rom is there one that people would suggest that I use?
2) if AT&T decides to put out the Gingerbread rom at a later date (est this summer) can I install it and maintain my root or will it remove the root? and what is the risk of upgrading?
The two major reasons that I want to root is I want to be able to use the amazon appstore, and I want to rid myself of the bloat ware. From what I've read Gingerbread is a significant improvement and I'd like to go to that version if possible.
I've previously owned an iPhone and was very disappointed even with the device jailbroken. I'm used to that process and it's really simple and no issue. This one is clearly more complex. But I'd like to limit my downtime on my device.
Obievil said:
I do have a couple of questions that I cannot seem to find solid answers on.
1) If I root using bubby's method, the rom that gets installed, is that still an inspire rom? or is it a Gingerbread rom? If it is not a gingerbread rom is there one that people would suggest that I use?
2) if AT&T decides to put out the Gingerbread rom at a later date (est this summer) can I install it and maintain my root or will it remove the root? and what is the risk of upgrading?
The two major reasons that I want to root is I want to be able to use the amazon appstore, and I want to rid myself of the bloat ware. From what I've read Gingerbread is a significant improvement and I'd like to go to that version if possible.
I've previously owned an iPhone and was very disappointed even with the device jailbroken. I'm used to that process and it's really simple and no issue. This one is clearly more complex. But I'd like to limit my downtime on my device.
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if you root the phone, your rom will still the same old ATT rom but "unlocked". you will have to flash a GB rom to get GB. There are plenty of GB roms already here in the DEV section.
if ATT upgrades to GB, dont worry, people here will provide many upgraded rooted versions of GB for you to download.
Obievil said:
I'm very new to rooting, I've looked at many of the Root processes and I've been a lurker for about 4 months. and i've about decided to use Bubby's for the sake of easy rooting process.
I do have a couple of questions that I cannot seem to find solid answers on.
1) If I root using bubby's method, the rom that gets installed, is that still an inspire rom? or is it a Gingerbread rom? If it is not a gingerbread rom is there one that people would suggest that I use?
2) if AT&T decides to put out the Gingerbread rom at a later date (est this summer) can I install it and maintain my root or will it remove the root? and what is the risk of upgrading?
The two major reasons that I want to root is I want to be able to use the amazon appstore, and I want to rid myself of the bloat ware. From what I've read Gingerbread is a significant improvement and I'd like to go to that version if possible.
I've previously owned an iPhone and was very disappointed even with the device jailbroken. I'm used to that process and it's really simple and no issue. This one is clearly more complex. But I'd like to limit my downtime on my device.
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If/when you do root, I would recommend using LeeDroid's GB rom. Very stable, fast, and excellent battery life, with none of the bloat ware.
Whatever ROM you chose, make sure you read the instructions for flashing. Any questions, just post. Most people are more then willing to help.
I used Bubby's, it was pretty easy and worked fine. Here is a How To in case you don't have one...http://androidforums.com/inspire-4g-all-things-root/310442-how-root-official-guide.html
Good luck!
Thanks!
Now I just need to back up my photos/data.
Good luck
I also rooted using Bubby's method, and after two weeks or so with the (rooted) stock ROM I decided to upgrade to Gingerbread with the Android Revolution ROM. It runs smoothly, battery life isn't perfect but it's fine.
If you're going to flash ROMs with custom radios, I recommend you read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054304
I've spent some time on the forum trying to find an answer, but obviously that didnt happen.
I have my GS4G and want to just ROOT it without installing any rom to replace the firmware.
1. If i root my phone, can i do JUST that? or are there other steps after simply rooting that are considered important for the stability of my phone?
2. After i root my phone, will i still be able to do the kiesmini/OTA gingerbread *official* (not leaked) update?
My main reason for wanting to do this is for the bloatware and increasing performance, and to just have overall more 'control' (similar to the feeling of wiping a new computer from the manufacture's preloaded poop).
I have superoneclick v1.9.5. I used it as a test on my old MT3G, and installed the GingerYoshi rom, and all worked very well. I just dont want to brick my GS4G, as i paid full price D:.
sorry if this has been asked/answered, i try to play by the rules, but just didnt find my answer.
thanks,
Greg
Super one click root 1.7 was what I used. It just roots the phone, as any other rooting method should. You can get ota fine...I always did. Never had a problem.
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Just so you know there's no one-click root method for Gingerbread for the SGS4G yet. Maybe around the time the official ROM comes out there will be.
what does:
"error:more than one device"
mean?? That pops up when i hit root. I only have one phone connected to my PC.
I'm assuming its multiple instances of ADB running? Im not sure..
*EDIT* My mistake lol. still had my MT3G plugged in, my bad!
successfully rooted. Thanks
Hi, I am waiting for my HTC Sensation to arrive from eBay. New to android and have been reading about rooting. Just want to make sure I am getting this clear:
So, to root, I'll need to to the S-off thing with revolution, then clockwork recovery, then SU to actually root it right?
I am not sure whether I need to root it, but I am interested in unlocking it for SIM and I read there's a way to do it if the phone is rooted. Also, I probably don't need some of the T-mobile apps and want to delete it. However, do I have necessarily have to flash a custom ROM after I rooted it? Can I just use what came with the HTC?
However, if I do this, I guess I can't update through HTC/T-mobile anymore right? So I'll have to flash some ROM, but does it have some modify ROM, or can I use the ROM that's official from HTC?
Can someone please correct me if I misunderstood the process? And also, can I reverse all this if I decide I just want to use it the way it was shipped except simunlocked, and be able to update newer version of the OS from HTC.
Thanks
Sensation rooting
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
pretty much yes to your questions...even if you root you can stay with your stock rom and just use titanium backup to delete all the junk u dont want. Also, even if you cant get updates officially, devs here are nice enuf to post the newest stock roms for you to flash so dont worry. so i suggest you read these three threads to start off and have fun (just read directions very carefully)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137311
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232107
edit: ah, i guess someone else was replying too
darryll4sh0 said:
I was just like you about a month and half ago. im new to android aslo but i'll help you. first- your right about using the revolutionary method and installing clockwork and super user. as for unlocking it for a SIM you might need super cid check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
to remove some tmobile apps use titanium backup (it's in the market)
As for roms im using stock but it's rooted. but before you root please update to 2.3.4 because it really improve your phone but yes you would have to flash update roms after you root. but you can find the official one's here if you look for them as soon as they come out.
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Thanks for the quick reply. So I can only remove some t-mobile apps if it's rooted right? I was thinking of updating to the newest version before considering rooting. I think I will be kinda in the same situation as you....so when you say stock rooted rom...it's basically the same ROM as what t-mobile has with SENSE etc...but can be apply to a rooted phone without losing root right?
Finally, since you're not using any custom ROM and stuff... do u find it worthwhile rooting? what other advantage have you notice if you're using the stock ROM?
Thanks again!
rooting sensation
My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
darryll4sh0 said:
My rom is the same one that comes when you first get the phone. the only expectation is that it's updated to 2.3.4 instead of 2.3.3 and that it's rooted. When you root imagine like it's a window's pc and instead of using the guest account where stuff is limited, your now able to use the administrator account which lets you do anything.
As for advantages, i wanted to improve it's speed and battery life. the update helps but you'll find out that tmobile has alot of apps running in the background which slows it down and uses more battery and they also included useless app or two of the same kind of app. Right now im looking at other roms because im kinda tired of sense but i wish i could keep it's widgets.
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Great. I think I'll just stick with the 2.3.4 firmware for now before considering flashing any custom ROMs etc.
So just so I am clear, I should update the unrooted phone to 2.3.4 when I get it. then I can perform the S-off, clockwork, superuser to get it rooted and just leave it as it is and use the existing ROM as it came with the phone. Until I need to update to a higher version, I will then flash a rooted version of whatever t-mobile came out with from here. Is that the deal?
Finally, what's superCID? Do I need that?
Thanks again.. you guys been a great help! I can't wait to play around with this when I get the phone this weekend
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Yep your correct....
As for super CID is something like a carrier unlock. This has something to do with updates i think. but by adding this you can flash any carrier's rom onto your phone. for example vodafone and orange are both 2 different europe phone companies and they both include different apps on their roms just like tmobile give there special apps. With super-CID you can put anyone of those carries rom on you phone regardless if it's a europe, usa, or asia sensation. but you don't need- i haven't put it on either.
After going through the official, and unofficial means of unlocking the bootloader.... And going through the process of rooting..... And after learning that it undoes the OTA firmware upgrade and all it's little fixes...... And after reflashing RUU to get the upgrades back..... And after learning that I can't have my cake and eat it too, (rooted, and upgraded)..... I have to ask, do you think that a root method similar to that of what Visionary did for the MT4G or the RyanZa program did for the Vibrant, will come to the Sensation 4g? The only reason I ask is not because I'm an obvious noob, (Clearly I know what I'm doing) but because I'm just really - REALLY - lazy and I want a simple reasonably non invasive root method that won't reset my phone each time a hot fix or upgrade come across the wires.
Just thinking in my head, if the bootloader is unlocked, officially or unofficially, it should make it really easy for an ace developer to make a simple root method. Although, since I'm not a dev, perhaps it's harder than I think it is. In any event, my question still stands. Does anyone think it's going to happen?
P.S. In the end, after a few more months of not being rooted, or nothing new coming down the pipe, obviously I'll go the Revolutionary route again, as I'm almost certain there's no chance of another OTA coming out for this phone. (History has made me both bitter and pessimistic, I'm sorry)
The root method is already easy as is. Why worry about updates when we get them from our devs, sometimes even faster than the actual US OTA.
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The root method is already easy as is. Why worry about updates when we get them from our devs, sometimes even faster than the actual US OTA.
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Oh, I don't doubt that for a minute. Having been burned as much as I have in the past.... (READ: Samsung Behold II) I'm overly grateful for the devs for making it this easy. This is the first place I come for updates... There's just a small part of me that feels better about keeping it close to official, only because at the core I'm still a nooB.... Waiting for a non Samsung Nexus device....
well, the s-offing process doesn't "down grade" the OTA software, only the hboot in order to get s-off and fastboot commands working. you won't notice any part of that in daily rom use.
But, the rooting process is already pretty easy as it stands, but it won't be ANYWHERE near as easy as it was on galaxy s devices running eclair.
Huh?
1. From stock T-Mobile Sensation, turn it on, update to ota.
2. Unlock the bootloader through official or unofficial methods.
3. Flash CWM, flash root zip file.
You're done.
I have my cake and can eat it too.
If you're rooted already and can't get the ota, run the ruu to return to stock and go back to step 1
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I hope they don't make it too easy. It is already incredibly simple as it is and if anyone thinks it is still too hard, they shouldn't be rooting it then. A modicum of understanding is still required so that if something bad happens, they can at least have the ounce of intelligence required to fix it instead of whining haplessly.
It already is too easy. Look how many clueless people root and brick their phones these days...
I just want to ask some questions, seems like some of these threads are out of date.
My phone came out of box JB, so I need to restore down to ICS to root, then use a program called VooDoo to protect said root and update back to JB?
Unless my Bootloader is unlocked, What are the pro/cons of that, I heard you dont get OTA updates, but I could live without those, we can just download them ourselves right?
SirRudolph said:
I just want to ask some questions, seems like some of these threads are out of date.
My phone came out of box JB, so I need to restore down to ICS to root, then use a program called VooDoo to protect said root and update back to JB?
Unless my Bootloader is unlocked, What are the pro/cons of that, I heard you dont get OTA updates, but I could live without those, we can just download them ourselves right?
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There have been a lot of misconceptions about unlocked bootloaders in this forum. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't necessarily mean the phone will not be eligible for updates, rather the updates will not install on a modified system. What is your real reason for root? Most people are always looking for the latest update, but mess up some files on their phone and don't have backup, in which case the update will fail.
With the Rogers/fido fiasco, we had people go back to the wrong Rogers version of software, since it was not posted properly on the Motorola firmware download website.
Another con is that your warranty would be totally void. Personally I haven't find the need yet to root this device and have had it for almost 4 months now!
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I wont agree for some people the modifications other people do seem trivial.
I've already rooted though, turns out I did have to do what I said above, now running 4.1.1 with Root
I root because a few applications I use, for instance SetCPU allows me to underclock the processors in my phone while the screen is locked, that saves a bit of battery life. I wish Motorola allowed a smart action trigger for when the phone screen was off though, this would help it even more so to save battery.
I use another app to change the lockscreen sounds, which requires root as well.
I havent looked at possible ROM's on this phone yet, as far as I know developers arent quite getting into this phone as deep as they usually do? Thusly I dont think i'll need to use a custom ROM. Just my own optimizations.