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[Q] Why Root?

I rooted mine and my wife's Captivate and the only advantage I saw was getting rid of ATT programs. I was going to send my phone back (becasue I could not OTA update) But since used Kies to do so. My wifes remains rooted . I am back to stock JH7.
I read you can tell the phone where to install programs when rooted but I did not find a way to do that. What are the other advantages of rooting the phone.
We have one Captivate rooted and the other stock.
Came over from unbranded n97 running Symbian. This is all new to me and I hated the 2 weeks with an iPhone. So far I like this Andriod OS but I have a lot to learn. I have read it is virtually impossible to brick this phone with the propoer tools and knowledge that is readily available........true?

Apparently it is not as unbrickable as people think. Some people were seeing stock phones bricking by trying to update the recent OTA. I myself was rooted and had no troubles.
Rooting allows you to play God on your phone. But be careful and backup everything if you do decide to. Best advice, as I was new to Android as well, is to read as much as you can before trying anything.
Most people here are good about answering questions, if you post in the right forum.
Good luck and welcome!

I guess it really depends on what you want to do with your phone. The only reason I rooted was to remove bloatware. Thats pretty much where the benefit ends unless you are interested in loading different ROMs and kernels.
Also, a word of caution: Be careful what apps you load on a rooted device. Root access gives you, and applications read/write/execute access to everything on your phone.

I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks

Ihad no problem updating with my rooted phone. All I've done is root and lagfix.
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dynastyice said:
I also have a question on this topic. Since the original poster said, he can't do OTA updates after rooting is this correct?
Can you root the phone, take the bloatware off, then unroot the phone? Will the OTA now update?
Or do you have to update the original stock rom with OTA, then root the phone?
Can you root the phone, remove bloatware, then unroot the phone?
Thanks
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I rooted my phone......removed all bloat tirf to do the update and failed...Odin back to stock.....failed even after speaking with Samsung and ATT. Of course Samsung said it was not a hardware issue (as if that is all they should be concerned with.)
the Odin process could only be doe ONE way for me and I cut and pasted the method that worked and keep it and a lot of other tips in a Samsung folder on my Notebook. Seems everything but rooting was a hassle until you get GOOD information. That is the hardest think to glean. One has to read ENTIRE threads before they find the solution and not go jumping into the experiments....LOL
A few OPs do update their initial posts with the correct "process revisions"
I likely will root after the maybe someday Froyo 2.2 update. I want to get my wife's phone stock again..........
I finally after ATT decided to replace the phone......download Kies and installed the update that was and all went well. Kies is hit and miss with this phone though, Sometimes it sees it, others it does not.
Funny thing now on my USB selections it doesn't say "Samsung Kies" It says "Samsung Kies (firmware update)" Strange.
Anyway I am a complete noob but I like to learn about the OS as I did Symbian and mess with things now and then. I Am not the type that worries about scratches though. My phones look like war toys. But I usually don't resell them after a a couple generations. I give the previous phones away and keep the current phones as back up for the NEXT phones. The N95s will be given away if we keep these past Oct 20 drop day....

The biggest advantage you gain after rooting your phone is being able to use Titanium to back up all your apps, and Clockwork ROM manager to do an entire backup your phone.
These are nice tools to have, but both require rooting and super user privileges.

if you ask that question, then you probably shouldn't. rooting is for those who constantly not satisfied with status quo of their phones, for those who like different looks and improve on system and have no patience for OTA.
Example:
I bought MyTouch 3G as 1.5 Cupcake.
Upgraded to CM 1.6
Changed back and forth between Sense 1.5 and Donut 1.6.
Upgraded to CM 1.6 with bits of 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.0
Upgraded to CM 2.1
Upgraded to CM 2.2
My Captivate will eventually get CM 6.0 I hope soon. Who knows, perhaps Sense 2.X will be ported too.
Oh, and lag-fix, overclocking and future color fix are other pluses.

Yeah you,re right. I switched both caps back to stock. I may want something more after Iget to know Android more and find areal need rather than.
do something just because it can be done
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Coming from Nexus One to MT4G

I love my N1 but battery life is an issue, and I have found little complaints about the battery life of the MT4G. So I figured I would give it a try.
I'm not a noob at Android or flashing... been doing it since my G1. That doesn't mean I want to dig into ADB overly much to root. Also I need to be able to unroot should the need arise.
So I have a few questions.
What root method is the most painless way, and still allows fairly easy unrooting?
Is there any practical advantage to the True S=off root?
I may use a mostly stock ROM with an OC kernel. Will most likely switch to CM7 when it hits RC status.
Is ClockworkMod the only recovery choice we have? I didn't find any others while looking through the threads.
Thanks in advance.

Marine6680 said:
What root method is the most painless way, and still allows fairly easy unrooting?
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Gfree. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
It is about as "one click" as you will get, and you can use it for only S-OFF and to allow you to flash eng hboot if you don't want sim/carrier unlock for some reason.
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Is there any practical advantage to the True S=off root?
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Yes. HTC is shipping newer devices already patched against older "rage" exploits. I'm of the mindset of root it while you can, if it's something that matters to you . It is also unlocking your phone at the lowest level possible via the radio, so you should be able to keep root even through forced OTAs, new ROMs, etc -- once it's done it's done!
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Is ClockworkMod the only recovery choice we have? I didn't find any others while looking through the threads.
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Yes. I have seen a little chatter that Amon_RA is working on a version, but I have not seen one yet. CW is all we have, but it works well so no big complaints from me there.

Genocaust said:
Gfree. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858996
It is about as "one click" as you will get, and you can use it for only S-OFF and to allow you to flash eng hboot if you don't want sim/carrier unlock for some reason.
Yes. HTC is shipping newer devices already patched against older "rage" exploits. I'm of the mindset of root it while you can, if it's something that matters to you . It is also unlocking your phone at the lowest level possible via the radio, so you should be able to keep root even through forced OTAs, new ROMs, etc -- once it's done it's done!
Yes. I have seen a little chatter that Amon_RA is working on a version, but I have not seen one yet. CW is all we have, but it works well so no big complaints from me there.
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I don't need sim or carrier unlock.
As long as I root it right away, and do not install any official updates, I should be fine right?
Amon_RA is my preferred recovery. Even though I use CyanogenMOD which uses Clockwork for official downloads and flashing.
Found the thread for unrooting gfree... thats good then

Make sure to install engineer hboot as well

I'm new to the MyTouch 4g as well so here's my advice.
1) do it the true way. I tried using the permanent way without gfree and I couldn't get root to stick on my one day old phone.
2) I've seen thee best battery life with evil Z rom.
3) make sure you have the good screen before you start this process in case you need to return it.
4) back up your stock recovery and rom! Just because they are online is no excuse!
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came from a nexus one as well, but had a few phones in between.
The mytouch 4g is solid! Clockwork recovery isn't too bad, itll get the job done, simple rooting process and all. Its about the same as the nexus one I would say, simple and no problems. Roms are pretty solid here, cyanogen nightlies for gingerbread are good, battery life is around 2 days for me on average. The ice glacier is like stock and that is one of the better roms to play with as well. Enjoy the mytouch 4g till you find a new toy

Sounds good.

Rooting? Flashing a rom? Radios? I'm so overwhelmed =/

I read through a bunch of guides on rooting and flashing a rom and all this has gotten me extremely confused. All I want to do is root my phone. I want to keep the stock HTC rom except I want my phone to be rooted.
What is the safest way to do this with almost no chance of getting my phone bricked? I keep hearing this thing about a "radio off" and how easily it bricks your phone. I am looking for the absolute safest root method out there.
All I need is to remove the SIM Lock since I am going to Europe in 2 weeks. I might try underclocking as well. Also, I obviously have an HTC Inspire 4G

I recommend the ace hack kit. Its extremely easy now with version 11. Its simply as following the prompts and hitting 1,2,3. Once rooted flash attn1 rom. And you will be stock rooted with the latest Ota's radio
As to the radio s off, that in itself is not the problem but of flashing of radios. For example if you happens to flash a radio that was corrupted while downloading that has a potential to cause a brick. That's why you should always verify the downloads.
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ComradeNF said:
I read through a bunch of guides on rooting and flashing a rom and all this has gotten me extremely confused. All I want to do is root my phone. I want to keep the stock HTC rom except I want my phone to be rooted.
What is the safest way to do this with almost no chance of getting my phone bricked? I keep hearing this thing about a "radio off" and how easily it bricks your phone. I am looking for the absolute safest root method out there.
All I need is to remove the SIM Lock since I am going to Europe in 2 weeks. I might try underclocking as well. Also, I obviously have an HTC Inspire 4G
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If you just need the sim unlocked, just call AT&T for the code. If your Inspire qualifies...is not new and still under consignment...they should provide one. No need to root to unlock the sim. And just because there seems to be a lot of people rooting their Inspires doesn't mean it is popular. I haven't rooted mine and don't plan to because my Inspire works flawlessly as is with the OEM ROM. If you are feeling the urge or pressure to root your Inspire just because other people are doing it, don't. If the Inspire was running WinMo or some other low-quality OS, yes, then take the time to root. But it isn't. The Inspire is running Android. There's nothing wrong with Android as it currently is.

Hello and welcome. IMHO, att1's Hack Kit is the way to go. So long as you don't have a bunch of apps on your phone yet, start to finish rooting will take approximately 15 mins.
This will flash the stock rooted rom back onto your phone. It's incumbent upon you to backup any SMS, apps, contacts...that you don't want to lose.
Take you're time, read the EFFIN MANUAL and search prior to askin any q's relating to using the hack kit. Should you run into a situation that you're unable to find a concise answer for, drop into the chat room and see if your issue(s) can be resolved from there.
Good luck,
Tx

As he said above if all you want is sim unlock, get an unlock code.
If you insist on rooting, we will be happy to help you through the process, as long as you promise to continue reading, and researching before you attempt it.

mudknot2005 said:
As he said above if all you want is sim unlock, get an unlock code.
If you insist on rooting, we will be happy to help you through the process, as long as you promise to continue reading, and researching before you attempt it.
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It's like $30 if I want to buy it. AT&T Told me I need to wait undil December before they give me the code =/

ComradeNF said:
It's like $30 if I want to buy it. AT&T Told me I need to wait undil December before they give me the code =/
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Okay, if its rooting, the best remedy is to read the threads, I know there is a lot. There is a lot of information on this forum, and alot of the questions you have been asking have been covered a couple times.
As said above all the instructions including a stock rooted rom (with the ota update and bloat removed) are included in the hack kit. What the hack kit will do, is help you create a gold card (to bypass the CID check), downgrade the rom ( you won't have sound while downgraded), root then s-off (security off) the phone which also sim unlocks the phone, then flash a rooted stock rom.

Mud is correct and I have run into him a lot today posting lol. He also made the sticky at the top of the forum. He knows what he is talking about. This isn't the first phone I have rooted. But it is the first that wasn't a one click root. The ace hack kit was very simple to use just read read read and read again make sure you understand the process before starting. If you don't understand ask in this thread and we can all try to help out as best we can. Although i think mud will be taking the most of this lol. Also use the search feature and google your probably not the first person with a problem so more then likely the answer is already out there. Good luck with rooting.

OEM GB Soon but no root

There are more rumors from ggood sources team irc that s verizon is closer to releasing GB But it will close all presently known root methods
so much for HTC promise of unlocked boot loader
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interesting aye, Thunderbolt Gingerbread is in phase2 testing at Verizon. Just sayin'
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HTC has no control over what VZW does. HTC promised , VZW did not.
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Maybe it's just me, but I always thought that the bootloader and the OS were separate entities. Unlocked bootloaders were promised yes, but, the promise to keep exploits in the OS for rooting was not promised. These are 2 SEPARATE ENTITIES!

Correct.
Sent from my Verizon 4GLTE HTC THUNDERBOLT

sithdroid2187 said:
Maybe it's just me, but I always thought that the bootloader and the OS were separate entities. Unlocked bootloaders were promised yes, but, the promise to keep exploits in the OS for rooting was not promised. These are 2 SEPARATE ENTITIES!
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I don't think it will be hard for any of the talented developers we have here to root the OTA ROM. Obtaining S-Off after accepting the update might be another matter, and accepting the update on a rooted but otherwise stock TBolt might break root. But as long as you've rooted before the GB update I'm sure we'll be fine. It's the poor suckers who haven't rooted waiting for the update, and once it comes decide they want to root that I feel sorry for.

don't install the OTA until it's cracked by the devs, simple as that. i give it a day or two and it would be rooted. they never close all the root exploits.

ghamden said:
There are more rumors from ggood sources team irc that s verizon is closer to releasing GB But it will close all presently known root methods
so much for HTC promise of unlocked boot loader
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As said, the BootLoader and rooting the OS are two different things..
That being said... I expect the DEV's to root upcoming GB updates... After all, chingy51o just created Gingeritis v1.2 from a new "non-test" GB rom... and its rooted.

KidJoe said:
As said, the BootLoader and rooting the OS are two different things..
That being said... I expect the DEV's to root upcoming GB updates... After all, chingy51o just created Gingeritis v1.2 from a new "non-test" GB rom... and its rooted.
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Building a rom that has root access is not the same thing as gaining root access on an existing installation.
Its not really the same thing, but think about having admin rights on a machine with windows already installed, verses installing it yourself. If someone else has secured the machine, getting admin could be quite hard (stfu peanut gallery, I know that's only in theory).
If you install from scratch though, you just have to tell it to make you admin
What this means though, is with source, bootloader is everything. They can lock the rom down three ways from sunday, but if devs have source, and an open bootloader, we can install WTF ever we want on the phone.

Its silly that they are so quiet with updates its not like they are launching a spy satellite but anyway. Phase 2 out of how many phases? Just curious what their proper procedure is.

Morkai Almandragon said:
Building a rom that has root access is not the same thing as gaining root access on an existing installation.
Its not really the same thing, but think about having admin rights on a machine with windows already installed, verses installing it yourself. If someone else has secured the machine, getting admin could be quite hard (stfu peanut gallery, I know that's only in theory).
If you install from scratch though, you just have to tell it to make you admin
What this means though, is with source, bootloader is everything. They can lock the rom down three ways from sunday, but if devs have source, and an open bootloader, we can install WTF ever we want on the phone.
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I understand the analogy of admin rights on windows already vs a regular user trying to get admin rights after the fact.
I'm not a developer, nor do I know the first thing about creating a "custom rom"... so my thought is... Chingy51o used a "GB leak that is newer than the last" as the base to create Gingeritis v1.2 which is rooted.... How much harder can it be for the DEV's to put out an already rooted/busyboxed version of that GB ROM Chingy used as the base?
And if that is possible... then the S-Off/Root processes (where you flash to older rom first to exploit...) could be used by those who took the upgrade... and flash the already rooted ROM, no?

KidJoe said:
I understand the analogy of admin rights on windows already vs a regular user trying to get admin rights after the fact.
I'm not a developer, nor do I know the first thing about creating a "custom rom"... so my thought is... Chingy51o used a "GB leak that is newer than the last" as the base to create Gingeritis v1.2 which is rooted.... How much harder can it be for the DEV's to put out an already rooted/busyboxed version of that GB ROM Chingy used as the base?
And if that is possible... then the S-Off/Root processes (where you flash to older rom first to exploit...) could be used by those who took the upgrade... and flash the already rooted ROM, no?
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You might not be able to downgrade once you accept the update, this happened on the Incredible. They had rooted 2.1 on the Incredible,then there was an OTA (still 2.1) which required you to downgrade to root, similar to what we're doing now. When Froyo came out, of you accepted the OTA there was no way to downgrade and root. We (I personally) had to wait for them (the unrevoked team) to crack froyo to gain root access. I would suggest you root now, then wait for someone to release a rooted version of the OTA. Just my experience in the matter.

Why not flash an older RUU that has the known exploit?
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plambda said:
Why not flash an older RUU that has the known exploit?
sent from my bolt
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I'm not saying you won't be able to after the GB OTA on the Thunderbolt, but on the Incredible after the Froyo OTA you could not flash an older RUU. That's my knowledge on the subject.

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You might not be able to downgrade once you accept the update, this happened on the Incredible. They had rooted 2.1 on the Incredible,then there was an OTA (still 2.1) which required you to downgrade to root, similar to what we're doing now. When Froyo came out, of you accepted the OTA there was no way to downgrade and root. We (I personally) had to wait for them (the unrevoked team) to crack froyo to gain root access. I would suggest you root now, then wait for someone to release a rooted version of the OTA. Just my experience in the matter.
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Sorry, my memory on each phone and their specific quirks is fuzzy (between the D1, X, INC and TB, and add in the NookColor and Xoom, and I sometimes have troubles remembering)
But I do remember a friend had sent me his Inc for my then fiance (now wife)... he didn't S-OFF, took an update and lost root... So when I got it, I had to jump through a few hoops to get her's S-OFF and rooted as the Unrevoked tools didn't work on that version yet.
Are you thinking that the Dev's wont be able to pack a pre-rooted/busybox'd/SU version for those with S-OFF and root already?

KidJoe said:
Sorry, my memory on each phone and their specific quirks is fuzzy (between the D1, X, INC and TB, and add in the NookColor and Xoom, and I sometimes have troubles remembering)
But I do remember a friend had sent me his Inc for my then fiance (now wife)... he didn't S-OFF, took an update and lost root... So when I got it, I had to jump through a few hoops to get her's S-OFF and rooted as the Unrevoked tools didn't work on that version yet.
Are you thinking that the Dev's wont be able to pack a pre-rooted/busybox'd/SU version for those with S-OFF and root already?
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I think they absolutely will be able to, in fact I almost know so. I'm simply not sure how easy it will be to obtain s-off after accepting the update. I could be wrong, it's happened before, I think it was on a Tuesday...
Edit: In other words, I think it would be wise to obtain s-off while on 2.2 then wait for one of our wonderful developers to provide a rooted version.

It seems HTC's 2.3.4 Gingerbread builds are quite secure. I guess all builds of it are, not just HTC's. I have just noticed a trend with HTC's builds being rather difficult to obtain even temp root.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

hmmm maybe I should root this week then.

JBO1018 said:
It seems HTC's 2.3.4 Gingerbread builds are quite secure. I guess all builds of it are, not just HTC's. I have just noticed a trend with HTC's builds being rather difficult to obtain even temp root.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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Hopefully people are looking into it now that the new GB rom has leaked.

AlphaRevX managed to unlock the bootloaders on the evo 3D and sensation. Don't see what would be diffrent on the Thunderbolt if it gets locked down again.

[Q] When should I root/unlock my phone? (Help me assess risk)

Hi, I'm looking for advice on when (not how) to root/unlock my phone. I'm coming from the "unbrickable" Captivate, and I really miss the peace of mind that came along with that. Here's my situation: I used to be a software developer, so the command prompt doesn't scare me, and I can follow directions carefully. However, I really cannot risk bricking my phone--I can't afford to waste extra money or spend time without a phone just because I wanted to tinker (the married folks will understand).
I've been following the dev forum for the last month. Originally I had decided to just leave my phone bone stock until there was a reliable and time-tested root/unlock method. But the idea of a "window" in which to unlock the bootloader has me a little bit spooked. Could I miss my chance? I also know there's no working root for 1.85 (I'm on 1.73). Is it possible that when AT&T pushes the official OTA, whenever that is, that I could be stuck without root? Or is it just a matter of devs being motivated to do it once everyone is there?
Finally, is there any bricking risk to simply rooting my phone, and not trying to mess with the bootloader? I would at least like to get ad blocking back on.
Thanks for any advice, it's much appreciated.

There is always risk, it can not be avoided.
No mater how careful you are something can go wrong.
Me I look at the risk vs reward.
The only issue I have for example is the phone once I put it into Airplane mode locks into Airplane mode, intermittantly.
No ROM I know says this bug is fixed, and even if there is a fix is it worthwhile for me to take a chance?
..... I am waiting so far seen no compelling reason to root my device.

AstroDigital said:
There is always risk, it can not be avoided.
No mater how careful you are something can go wrong.
Me I look at the risk vs reward.
The only issue I have for example is the phone once I put it into Airplane mode locks into Airplane mode, intermittantly.
No ROM I know says this bug is fixed, and even if there is a fix is it worthwhile for me to take a chance?
..... I am waiting so far seen no compelling reason to root my device.
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Thanks for the reply. Yes, it's all about "risk vs. reward". I'm pretty clear on the "reward" part: rooting lets me block ads and run a few other nice things like tethering, memory management tweaks, etc., and unlocking the bootloader lets me install a custom recovery and third-party ROMs which, for me, will be pretty important to my long-term satisfaction.
What I'm looking for is specific and reliable advice on the "risk" side of the equation, both for rooting and for unlocking, and for waiting to do either of those. In particular, is there a risk that if I wait too long to unlock, I'll end up stuck with it locked forever? I guess it wouldn't matter so much, since dev support would probably dry up in that scenario, but it's something I've been worrying about. This is only my second Android phone.

1.73 is the best place you can be In my opinion for rooting and unlocking. Kennethpenn's one click root for our phone is stupid simple to use. The One click SuperCID is the same. Stupid simple, but I havn't really needed any reason to unlock really. I've unlocked but havn't flashed any roms or anything or even installed recovery yet.

The "window" too unlock/root your device is pretty much before you upgrade to 1.85. With all the one-click scripts available there's a lot less risk than if you had to say, copy/paste or type out all the commands yourself, but again there's always risk.
As long as you root, unlock your bootloader, AND install with CWM Recovery or TWRP BEFORE you upgrade to 1.85 then you're good.
As long as you're SuperCID, you can reunlock using HTCDev (I used the same unlock token that was provided when I was on 1.73...may or may not work for all though). Since you installed a custom recovery before upgrading, you can flash SU and have it manually update the binary and boom, you're rooted again.
Just be sure to follow all instructions to the letter. The only insanely risky part was changing the CID manually (I spent a good 5 minutes staring at my hex editor to make sure things were right), but there's a one click for that now.

yes. while your on 1.73, do the supercid and get the unlock token from HTCDev. keep this token!!!! forever even, as you will be able to use it again and again to relock and reunlock bootloader. as long as you know what you are doing, i'd recommend you go ahead root unlock bootloader, relock, ruu to 1.85, and reunlock. devs are starting to spit out some really cool stuff.

Thanks guys, that's exactly the kind of advice I'm looking for. One more question: I know around the time that the BL unlock was first achieved, there was some worry that HTC would "patch" it, or do something, so that it would stop working. Is that worry justified, or can I count on being able to unlock whenever I choose as long as I'm still on 1.73?
Edit: ethantarheels123 answered exactly this before I even got done typing it. Awesome!

Tinyboss said:
Is it possible that when AT&T pushes the official OTA, whenever that is, that I could be stuck without root? Or is it just a matter of devs being motivated to do it once everyone is there?
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If AT&T pushes out 1.85 as an OTA and you install it, then you will be stuck without root and without bootloader unlock (unless AT&T also decides to unlock the bootloader officially). Devs coming up with a new root method is always possible, but I wouldn't count on it. A lot of people are already rooted, superCID and unlocked bootloader on 1.85. So not sure how much interest there will be on rooting 1.85 when other things are higher priority (S-Off, custom ROMs, kernels), even if 1.85 gets pushed out as an OTA.
The one-click root method is ridiculous simple, and not much can go wrong. If for some reason anything goes wrong, you can just run the RUU to get back to stock. One clock SuperCID is also simple, with little risk as well. As mentioned, everything has a risk. But if you use these methods to root and unlock, it seems the risk is quite small. If root privileges, and the ability to flash custom ROMs is important to you, I'd say the odds are highly in your favor. If not, and you are thinking of doing it just in case the "window" closes, than that's a tougher call to make, and its up to you to judge.
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Tinyboss said:
Thanks guys, that's exactly the kind of advice I'm looking for. One more question: I know around the time that the BL unlock was first achieved, there was some worry that HTC would "patch" it, or do something, so that it would stop working. Is that worry justified, or can I count on being able to unlock whenever I choose as long as I'm still on 1.73?
Edit: ethantarheels123 answered exactly this before I even got done typing it. Awesome!
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There is always the possibility that HTC may plug the hole by which SuperCID allows you to get an unlock token. Whether they will or not, who knows.
Also keep in mind that keeping the token to reuse does not always work. It worked for me, but not other people. So no guarantees.

I'm on 1.73 and I'm rooted only. (I'm also married and love this stuff but just don't have time to be redoing over and over and/or getting stuck). For now, root is enough for me and from what I've seen, there isn't much reason to rush into unlocking bootloader. Most things are WIPs or unoffical ports or have a list of "stuff not working" which makes it pointless unless you are into that beta experience.
Root is awesome and when the other stuff becomes official or fully working, I'll get do that stuff too.