Okay, so it seems from the official OTA thread that there seems to be no problem with being rooted while updating. I will probably do OTA rootkeeper anyways just for safe measure, though.
Do I need to revert/uninstall any of my root apps? The one I have in question is Chainfire3D, since it changed some of the graphics drivers. Do I need to revert this before the update? And if so, or if it uninstalls the drivers with the update, will I need to reinstall the drivers? Nobody seems to be answering that question in the thread
Thanks to whoever helps. I am just a noob, sorry!
toastthemost said:
Okay, so it seems from the official OTA thread that there seems to be no problem with being rooted while updating. I will probably do OTA rootkeeper anyways just for safe measure, though.
Do I need to revert/uninstall any of my root apps? The one I have in question is Chainfire3D, since it changed some of the graphics drivers. Do I need to revert this before the update? And if so, or if it uninstalls the drivers with the update, will I need to reinstall the drivers? Nobody seems to be answering that question in the thread
Thanks to whoever helps. I am just a noob, sorry!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You need to be stock 2.3.6 to install the ICS OTA, meaning no changes to build.prop or files or so on. If you're referring to the Chainfire 3D plugins, yes you'll need to reinstall them if you're still going to be using Chainfire...
Sent from my rooted Mayan Calendar
Apex_Strider said:
You need to be stock 2.3.6 to install the ICS OTA, meaning no changes to build.prop or files or so on. If you're referring to the Chainfire 3D plugins, yes you'll need to reinstall them if you're still going to be using Chainfire...
Sent from my rooted Mayan Calendar
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Okay, thanks! What other root apps mess with the build.prop file? Like I'm running an ad-blocker (shame, I know), Titanium Backup, some root options on juicedefender, and others I can't remember?
toastthemost said:
Okay, thanks! What other root apps mess with the build.prop file? Like I'm running an ad-blocker (shame, I know), Titanium Backup, some root options on juicedefender, and others I can't remember?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just make sure you are completely stock, meaning that no system files are touched, and if they have been, make sure you restore them to stock. As for the root apps, just delete them and their files. Applications such as Ad Blocker, JD, and TiB won't hinder your ability to install the update, but get rid of them prior just to make sure there's no unforseen comlications. Also, if you have the Atrix 2 Bootstrap and CWM Recovery installed, you'll need to delete those files as well -the logwrapper, andy CWM files, etc...
Apex_Strider said:
Just make sure you are completely stock, meaning that no system files are touched, and if they have been, make sure you restore them to stock. As for the root apps, just delete them and their files. Applications such as Ad Blocker, JD, and TiB won't hinder your ability to install the update, but get rid of them prior just to make sure there's no unforseen comlications. Also, if you have the Atrix 2 Bootstrap and CWM Recovery installed, you'll need to delete those files as well -the logwrapper, andy CWM files, etc...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it more advantageous just to backup with titanium, FXZ to stock, then update and root?
Also, I saw that some people who had an mount_ext3.sh edit were getting soft bricks :/ since I edited this before the 2.3.6 update, would that hurt this process? I am honestly thinking that FXZing back to 2.3.5 might be my best option at this point to minimize problems.
toastthemost said:
Is it more advantageous just to backup with titanium, FXZ to stock, then update and root?
Also, I saw that some people who had an mount_ext3.sh edit were getting soft bricks :/ since I edited this before the 2.3.6 update, would that hurt this process? I am honestly thinking that FXZing back to 2.3.5 might be my best option at this point to minimize problems.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I can give you my opinions, which can be taken however you choose. TiB isn't something I recommend to people, since it has been known to cause more headaches than it does good. If you're worried about your apps being re-installed easily, just make sure before you update that you back up with Google's servers (everything), so that if you have a WiFi connection at home or at the office or wherever, you can install the OTA, and once it has installed you can re-enter your Google account info, go to the Play Store, and in a few minutes your perviously installed applications will re-install.
I haven't looked into the issues with the mount_ext3.sh, but if I were doing this, I would just FXZ back to 2.3.6 (however seen best to do so) so that I have the assurance that when installing the OTA I won't run into any problems. Now, you can do whatever you are most comfortable with, and that would be my recommendation, but again it's all up to you. Whatever you do, and however you choose to go about updating, it is probably safer to be "safe" than sorry. I wish I could be of more usefulness, but my Atrix 2 is currently in the hands of Mototola after the whole 'leak #2 to GB' test FXZ, which I worked with the dev team to some great lengths to get this resolved, but opted to send out for warranty before my time expired to do so.
My point in saying all of that is this, you're dealing with the official OTA, regardless of whatever you've installed, tweaked, modded, etc., so all you need to worry about is that you're bone stock, and then you can worry with everything else afterward -unlike many of us that tested the leaks only to find that we just didn't know enough about this to avoid bricks, as in some situations...
Just wanted to thank you again for the extra knowledge. Just FYI, it would not upgrade, even after removing all of those tweaks, so I had to FXZ down to 2.3.5 and start over. Not sure why, but it was probably a tweak I did at some point that I forgot about.
Related
So i rooted my phone, and deleted like 3 or 4 system apps, forgeting to backup. Now I'm afraid if I try to do a software update or something of the sort (after unrooting), or when if I have to bring it in to fix (have to unroot for that too) it'll brick my phone. What should I do? Any help would be appreciated.
HTC Evo 4g
Bkbitar said:
So i rooted my phone, and deleted like 3 or 4 system apps, forgeting to backup. Now I'm afraid if I try to do a software update or something of the sort (after unrooting), or when if I have to bring it in to fix (have to unroot for that too) it'll brick my phone. What should I do? Any help would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It would make it a little easier if we knew what phone you are working with. I saw you look in the Captivate section, but I don't know for sure. If it is for that phone then this would be your last resort
http://fonefrenzy.com/2010/12/19/how-to-revert-your-captivate-to-stock-with-odin3-one-click/
Most of the time the needed files can be found in custom roms. Just let us knew what phone and we can point you in a more positive direction.
Also what files are you looking for?
Sorry, HTC Evo
Also, the Sprint ones I deleted before I stopped were Blockbuster, Amazon mp3, and kindle, which are all available from the marketplace. The only htc one i deleted was the Peep. Does any of this matter?
Bkbitar said:
Sorry, HTC Evo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
To get back to stock you would download the RUU file, and run it from windows. It will completely erase everything, and take you back to stock.
http://shipped-roms.com/index.php?category=android&model=Supersonic
As for the missing files, most files you can be found if you do a search for system dumps. You might have a hard time finding one that is not already deodexed.
Bkbitar said:
Sorry, HTC Evo
Also, the Sprint ones I deleted before I stopped were Blockbuster, Amazon mp3, and kindle, which are all available from the marketplace. The only htc one i deleted was the Peep. Does any of this matter?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Their should not me any problem with removing those files, your phone should still run as normal.
The phone runs fine now, what I'm worried about is when Gingerbread comes and I want to update, since I don't have all the stock apps I'm worried I might screw up my phone.
Bkbitar said:
The phone runs fine now, what I'm worried about is when Gingerbread comes and I want to update, since I don't have all the stock apps I'm worried I might screw up my phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There should be no problem when gingerbread comes out. Most people that root the phone will run a custom rom, and that rom will include any and all needed files. Also most of the time leaked gingerbread roms will come out before the real one that you can go ahead and flash.
I understand I can flash blah blah blah, but I don't like to flash in fear of bricking my phone, so I want the OTA.
Bkbitar said:
I understand I can flash blah blah blah, but I don't like to flash in fear of bricking my phone, so I want the OTA.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, I understand you don’t want to flash and that is fine. It is almost impossible to brick it when running Unrevoked S-OFF and having a RUU file as a backup. The RUU can be used to un-brick the phone.
If you used Unrevoked to root your phone, then it installed ClockworkMod Recovery, and this will stop the OTA from being installed. If you used SuperOneClick or one of the other’s out there, you will still have your stock recovery and be able to install the OTA upgrade. The upgrade will most likely undo your root, and you will have to do it again.
When I temp-root my Shift, I go in and delete apps like nascar and sfl (NFL app), wait a bit, and they come back. I'd like them permanently gone to save space and CPU.
1) How do I delete them for good until reboot?
2) How do I delete them for good even after I reboot?
I guess my technical question is, there must be a script somewhere that's restoring these nuisance apps - where do I find it?
Links to people who have already asked this/existing solutions welcome. Sprint MIGHT release one more patch to this phone, so I'd ideally like to avoid going so far down the custom ROM route that I can't take advantage of that update - but it's not a must.
For the curious, I temp rooted using this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1185243
I have 2.3.3. Most of the posts regarding permanent root and custom ROMs focus on using 2.2 and Visionary, which only works on 2.2, so it's hard to sift through for threads that apply to my phone.
hi. download titanium back up. then temp root. then delete those stock apps from there. BUT MAKE SURE YOU DO A REGULAR DELETE. DONT DO THE DELETE THAT REQUIRES A RESTART BECAUSE THOSE STOCK APPS WILL COME RIGHT BACK. Hope this helps!!
Not sure why your so hesitant to Full Root. I sort of understand the whole waiting for the next Sprint update thing. But keep in mind when and if there is another update it will be full of bloatware. If you Full Root you will have more control over your phone. Plus if and when there is another update, I'd still wait for the Devs here to get their hands on it. It will just be better IMO
TEAM MiK
Mik Roms Since 3/13/11
With temp root they will keep coming back upon a reboot. Gotta perm root to fully delete them. And I wouldn't worry about any future Sprint OTAs, you'll be able to grab a rooted version from here. The 2.3 OTA that Sprint put out was available here, already rooted, within about 3hrs of release
I believe if you freeze the apps using titanium backup they won't come back even after reboot. If I'm wrong someone please correct me but I thought I had read that somewhere
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
Bump for answers.
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Jackos said:
Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.
Hello everyone - Please apologize if this is not the right place to ask this and feel free to move this thread where it belongs. So I have finally decided to root my HTC Inspire (Desire) - primarily to get rid of the bloatware and improve the battery life. I had a question before I do it - do I need to make any kind of backup before I proceed? Also, how easy/hard is it to go back to stock after you root? When you get an official software update, you need to be in the stock mode before you can get that update, correct?
I am planning to use the titanium backup pro after I root to freeze the bloatware - is there a better option available to do that or would you guys recommend titanium? Thanks much!
After you root, you won't want to have any "official" updates. We're not getting official ICS anyway. The ace hack kit does include a method to return to stock if you really needed to, say for warranty purposes. Rooting won't erase anything on your phone, but make sure all your contacts and everything are synced before you flash a new ROM. You need to wipe everything before that.
Titanium backup is the way to go for freezing/removing bloatware. Just be careful what you remove. I suggest freezing something before removing it to make sure the it doesn't make the phone act wierd. I made the mistake of removing a system app that I thought I had no need for, and it made my sync stick. Always had to manually cancel it or it would run forever. I ended up having to reflash to fix it.
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
jkm2282 said:
Thanks a bunch. Could you clarify what you mean when you say that there is no need for the "official" updates after I root the phone? Won't I need the software updates from AT&T or HTC in the future? Let's say an upgrade to Android in the coming days or something similar?
For only rooting purposes, I don't need to make any backups, correct? I am under the impression that I need to make a backup only if I need to flash a ROM. Is that a correct assumption?
If I freeze a bloatware, does it still hog the system resources (CPU/memory)? Or is it just a way to hide it from the app drawer?
Thanks for your help.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There will be no more updates from AT&T or HTC for the Inspire. Your only choice for updates will be to use a custom rom. They are much better than anything "official".
A back up is recommended before you start making changes once you have root. It is easier to restore a nandroid than to flash a RUU file.
Apps that have been frozen do not use CPU or ram but are still using storage.
Sent using the power of the dark side
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25822169
I had posted something for the user in this thread maybe the info I made could help you out or give you the idea
My Inspire
to ease you mind, I just rooted my Inspire using aace.. its totally easy basically plug and play, just read the directions and make sure you followed the prereq' directions.. Its not hard at all and very worth it, can belive i didnt do it sooner, just flased CM7 today and it AWESOME!!!! do and dont look back!!
I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simplest way is to use RSD Lite to send your device back to stock 4.1.2 -- then you can use the recently posted root method to gain root back. It should take < 15 minutes to do, most of that spent flashing with RSDLite. It'll actually take longer to download all the ADB drivers, Moto drivers, etc -- if you don't have them already.
triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
I bought a used XT925 today. While the previous owner did go to some trouble to clean it, it still has a bunch of apps and some settings that I really don't want. Also, as a privacy paranoiac, I'm worried that there may be something malicious (however slight the possibility).
The device is rooted and running JB 4.1.2. I would love to factory reset it but having read a few reports of people losing root or worse (here, here, here and here, to list just a few) that plan seems ill-advised.
I've been toying with trying to script some kind of fs compare against a fs from a rom, but I'm not sure if this is even feasible. So far the only other thing I can think of to do is uninstall all the apps and manually sift through and delete all the other junk in the filesystem.
Does anyone have any suggestions on returning my device to the most "virgin" state possible while retaining root?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whats up,
Cpudan80 is right, your best bet is to flash stock 4.1.2, and to reroot. And it does take about 15 minutes if you don't already have drivers and stuff, but I can help you out, by linking you to my utility, which essentially does the heavy lifting of finding all of the programs and stuff, and puts it together into one convenient package.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2241788
Cpudan80 said:
Simplest way is to use RSD Lite to send your device back to stock 4.1.2 -- then you can use the recently posted root method to gain root back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Mr.Parkinson said:
Cpudan80 is right, your best bet is to flash stock 4.1.2, and to reroot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the replies! Would you link me to that root method, Cpudan80? All of the root methods I've been able to find say that you must flash 4.0 or CWM first in order to root, then protect root and upgrade to JB again. Is there a new better way which doesn't require downgrading?
triplexdoubledadevelopers said:
Thanks for the replies! Would you link me to that root method, Cpudan80? All of the root methods I've been able to find say that you must flash 4.0 or CWM first in order to root, then protect root and upgrade to JB again. Is there a new better way which doesn't require downgrading?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's a thread on here somewhere -- but here's the thread I followed (after using RSDLite to go back to clean 4.1.2). No hard steps at all, just run a bat file - press enter and viola - you're rooted.
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/15208-root-motochopper-yet-another-android-root-exploit/
Cpudan80 said:
There's a thread on here somewhere -- but here's the thread I followed (after using RSDLite to go back to clean 4.1.2). No hard steps at all, just run a bat file - press enter and viola - you're rooted.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Amazing, thanks! I had seen that exploit at one point when I was considering getting an earlier RAZR version and was looking into how easy it was to root it. I thought that exploit didn't work with the XT925 since there was no link to it in the forum (and searches only revealed many tales of failed root attempts and downgrades). Thanks again!