Hey there!
I was wondering if rooting via towelroot would affect OTA updates? Someone told me you don't get OTA if the system files, bootloader or kernel have been changed. I am completely on stock now. Will apps like Droidwall, Titanium Backup or Greenify make any changes to the system files, hence rendering my phone not eligible for OTA?
Thanks
Read the OTA helpdesk thread about OTA. Link in my signature. Those apps should be fine but you should root properly and use a custom recovery of you're going to be rooted and forget about OTAs.
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I agree! Being rooted without a custom recovery and/or not knowing how to use adb/fastboot is almost asking for trouble.
@rootSU gave you the best info.
You have a Nexus. You can flash stock in minutes when you need to do an ota. Or forget that and flash the update through fastboot. I've never taken an OTA on any device.
Thanks for the replies folks. I just dont feel like unlocking my bootloader at this very moment since there's stuff to backup and I am at the peak of my laziness ( and also very busy to do stuff with my phone)
Edit: Yeah, I sideloaded the 4.4.4 update. Can I sideload any update like this in the future even if I don't receive automatic updates? (i.e doesn't sideload verify that all original files are intact?)
Probably best avoid root in that case then.
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Nice. You relax and we'll figure it out? That's not how XDA works my friend. Ask for help, put some effort in after you get answers. That's how it works.
I'd leave the phone as is and call it a day.
The question has been answered and the thread is going the wrong direction, so I'm going to stop it here.
@Moonheart All the info about OTA's are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217
It outlines what you need to do and how to prepare your phone for updates.
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Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
MANTI5 said:
Just got a Sensation this last Sat, my first Android phone, and am interested in rooting it. Never done this on any phone and am a little confused as many guides are for people who want to flash roms. For now, I would just like to root in order to get rid of some preinstalled apps. Is there a guide that has the minimal steps needed to just root? Also, does rooting do anything to my settings or apps that are there now?
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Follow steps one to three on the first post of this.. and that is it
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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Hello and welcome to the forums.
To property receive OTA updates you need a stock recovery - that's a must! We cannot predict what HTC is going to update next so if you delete a package that is going to be updated - yeah, this may cause troubles. So deleting kinda anything as root may cause a OTA update to fail. I suggest that you buy a application that does a backup when uninstalling a package. I'm using Root Uninstaller Pro to "freeze" some apps just in case HTC releases a OTA that needs one of those disabled apps.
In case you have any other questions feel free to ask.
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If you are running the stock ROM you can just update OTA right? I'm not running a stock ROM so i dont have any OTA at all, but just curious...
I'm running stock rom, nothing changed except it's rooted. Are you saying I won't get any OTA updates from HTC? Would I get them if I took the phone in to a T-Mobile store, say when ICS is released or would it still not update because it's rooted?
MANTI5 said:
Ok, didn't quite understand the guide here but found a video that made it easy and now I'm rooted. Will this keep me from receiving updates? When I get updates will this unroot the phone? Also, which apps are safe to remove without messing anything up?
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what video did you follow?
Not sure of it's exact location because I didn't bookmark it, but it was on youtube.
Anyone know the answer to my last question?
to find your answer boot into recovery on your phone, if you see it orange or blue with lots of options and on top it says CWM custom recovery, then no you will not receive OTA's, but to be honest thats ok, usually we root users get OTA leaks before its even released, expamle ICS some one is already working on ICS port so we will see ICS before even official release is even out
and if your rooted i found best way to remove bloat is to use titanium backup
back up the apps you want to remove in there and from the same app there is an option to uninstall it
Ok, got TB. Is there a list somwhere of apps that are safe to remove from the sensation? Also, when ICS is released, will putting it on my phone myself erase anything I currently have or not work at all if I start removing apps? Sorry for all the questions, this is my first smartphone.
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
No you dont need to be unrooted to update your android version.
You need to have the stock recovery and rom. The update isnt available for everyone yet
you will get a update notification just wait
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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You technically voided your warranty when you rooted. But no big deal.
You can download the update and sideload on your own, or wait for the OTA to come to you. If all you have is root, stock recovery and no system mods it will update on its own.
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Hi do not worry. Those posts really do not apply to you yet. You have a phone that is stock meaning, you bought it and using it. If you keep it like that you never have to worry about update. Google will automatically push the update to your phone by next week. Incidentally the phone is also a developer phone, so people usually play around with it. Root, custom roms, kernels etc. Now for these enthusiasts to get the update, they have to unroot, ,to stock just like your phone. After getting the update they will start messing with it again:laugh: this forum being the developers forum of the Internet is the reason why you are seeing all those posts.
Now you are sitting on a Ferrari phone, using it as a Honda. Some day in the future you will let it run at indy500
ayush88 said:
hi guys,
i read somewhere in this site that you have to unroot to get the 4.4.1 OTA... does this mean that stock android will never get updated?...or is this update not officially launched by google to the masses but just to the developers? pls im new to android and would like to know what the deal is here.
also i have no problem unrooting but i heard that you will stop getting OTA's and will have to side load all new updates everytime and you will also void your warranty...which im in two minds about
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Did you mean to ask "do you need to root to get the 4.4.1 OTA"?? If not, your question doesn't seem to add up....
You definitely do NOT need to root to get the OTA. You can wait for the update to be pushed out, or, if you are impatient, you can sideload using ADB or install from recovery.
If you are rooted, as the other folks explained, you may need to get back to stock before you can install 4.4.1
To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
I'm quite happy with everything stock and don't plan on doing any mods.
Also, I sideloaded 4.4.1, but would I have gotten the OTA with TWRP?
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To add to this, I only rooted my Nexus 5 so I could use BetterBatteryStats and some other monitoring apps. Is there any way to go back from TWRP to stock recovery without wiping data/losing root?
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Yes, get the recovery.img from the factory image and: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img. That'll put the stock recovery back on your device
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thnks alot you guys!!
this really helped me out!
i know i am new to android right now and dont know the ins and outs of this os completely... i really liked a reply which said i am sitting on a ferrarri and using it like a honda..lol...i will run it like a veyron in some time but for now my car comes with a "L" sign and a speed limiter on it
thnks again you guys!
Sorry if I am no expert. But I rooted my phone on 4.4.2, today I got the 4.4.3 update, so I downloaded it. I use SuperSU, so I turned on the survival mode, which was meant to keep my phone rooted through the update.
I run stock rom with franco kernel. Now from what I understand, I can install OTA's but that usually would overwrite the root privileges and stuff. Anyways, so I turned on survival mode on SuperSU and ran the update. I was installing, and then got the Error Android icon, the phone eventually started back up after few minutes of that screen.
When I check my root access it's still there, however, under the version of the system it's still 4.4.2 and I don't see anymore updates.
Sorry if I am new to this, but can someone explain rather or not the update pushed through, if not is my system currently messed up in anyways? And what should I do from here in order to get 4.4.3 kitkat.
Thanks!
CIarkness said:
Sorry if I am no expert. But I rooted my phone on 4.4.2, today I got the 4.4.3 update, so I downloaded it. I use SuperSU, so I turned on the survival mode, which was meant to keep my phone rooted through the update.
I run stock rom with franco kernel. Now from what I understand, I can install OTA's but that usually would overwrite the root privileges and stuff. Anyways, so I turned on survival mode on SuperSU and ran the update. I was installing, and then got the Error Android icon, the phone eventually started back up after few minutes of that screen.
When I check my root access it's still there, however, under the version of the system it's still 4.4.2 and I don't see anymore updates.
Sorry if I am new to this, but can someone explain rather or not the update pushed through, if not is my system currently messed up in anyways? And what should I do from here in order to get 4.4.3 kitkat.
Thanks!
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Your answer can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217. It is a Stickied Thread in the General section. Short answer: You need to flash the stock kernel or else the update will fail everytime. Give that thread a read (or at least the first post), and please search next time prior to posting.
charesa39 said:
Your answer can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/info-nexus-5-ota-help-desk-t2523217. It is a Stickied Thread in the General section. Short answer: You need to flash the stock kernel or else the update will fail everytime. Give that thread a read (or at least the first post), and please search next time prior to posting.
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Thanks, and sorry new to the forum. But I will make sure to ready all the stickies.
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Thanks, and sorry new to the forum. But I will make sure to ready all the stickies.
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No worries. :good: You'd be surprised how many times I've done a search and realized there were plenty of other people that had been in the same exact type of sticky situation I had been in at the time. You can definitely learn a lot from the stickies. That's how I learned all the basics about ADB and Fastboot, which is why I prefer to flash everything manually instead of using toolkits. There are some pretty knowledgeable people roaming these here forums.
Welcome to XDA!
Just flash it as a flashable zip in recovery (found in development forum by vomer)
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I'm running KitKat 4.4.2 rooted. Two days ago, Verizon started trying very aggressively to push a system update onto my phone, and they don't say what it is. Does anyone know what they're trying to force into my phone? I do not want to lose root.
Also, is there any way to stop the aggressive update prompts? If I don't manually set a time to be prompted again, it will push the update without my consent. Is there an Xposed Framework module that can help?
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I'm running KitKat 4.4.2 rooted. Two days ago, Verizon started trying very aggressively to push a system update onto my phone, and they don't say what it is. Does anyone know what they're trying to force into my phone? I do not want to lose root...
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It's this (VZW pdf-file). Also see here. Even if you downloaded the OTA, the installation would fail, because your device is rooted.
permutations said:
Also, is there any way to stop the aggressive update prompts? If I don't manually set a time to be prompted again, it will push the update without my consent
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See here. Posts # 4 and #8
Please post your questions in the question and answer section
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Please post your questions in the question and answer section
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Is it in the right place now? I get confused about where to post here, sorry.
I can see why they updated the messaging app. It was completely unusable. Is it still KitKat 4.4.2?
Most importantly, if I were to install it, would I still be able to root using the towelroot app?
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See here. Posts # 4 and #8
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I have Titanium Backup (Pro), but I don't see the update app anywhere on my phone. I'll post my question in the other thread. Thanks for the link.
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Is it in the right place now? I get confused about where to post here, sorry.
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Yes, I moved it to the Q&A section.
As a good rule. If you are asking a QUESTION and you want an ANSWER post it in the QUESTION and ANSWER section.
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Hi, I have the Droid Razr Maxx HD xt926 as well and have never done anything with android before in terms of software modification. I first learned how to root my phone and unlock the bootloader in June via the towelroot exploit. I've been wandering around this website wondering how to get this ota update without losing root. I've seen some posts regarding flashing an fxz file, but have also had a hard time understanding what it all means. I have not installed a custom ROM (yet), but when I try to take the ota, it fails because I am obviously rooted. What do I do from this point out? Do I still need to flash a stock image file? Should I just not take the update/is it worth it?
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Hi, I have the Droid Razr Maxx HD xt926 as well and have never done anything with android before in terms of software modification. I first learned how to root my phone and unlock the bootloader in June via the towelroot exploit. I've been wandering around this website wondering how to get this ota update without losing root. I've seen some posts regarding flashing an fxz file, but have also had a hard time understanding what it all means. I have not installed a custom ROM (yet), but when I try to take the ota, it fails because I am obviously rooted. What do I do from this point out? Do I still need to flash a stock image file? Should I just not take the update/is it worth it?
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If you decide to install a custom ROM, you won't have to waste another minute pondering the OTA. If you decide to stay on stock, and want to get VZWs latest firmware on your device, I strongly suggest that you triple-read and follow the instructions in this thread to the T. You will then not have to worry about another OTA nag, because this is the last Moto/VZW update for the XT926.
Okay thanks. I saw that thread on the general forum, but wasn't to sure if I should proceed. I'm going to follow the directions on the original post as I had been planning to do, but was too worried about any consequences. I will report back if I have any problems, given that I can follow instructions. I'll probably just go ahead and try to install the most recent stable release of CM when done. Fingers crossed.
I know there's still speculation about whether we're even getting the images today, but I want to be prepared.
I'm wondering about the best way for me to upgrade to lollipop. I've been searching the Internet all morning but I've been getting conflicting answers, so I want to clarify once and for all here...
I'm currently running kitkat 4.4.4 with the bootloader unlocked, clockworkmod installed, and root access gained. I'd like to avoid using toolkits if possible, and I'd hopefully like to avoid wiping all my data. I don't mind rerooting if I lose root, since that should be easy enough on a nexus device. I've read that rooted phones won't get an ota update, which is fine because I'd rather get it sooner than that anyways from Google's developer download page. I've also read that an upgrade from kitkat to lollipop definitely requires a wipe, but I figure there has to be a way around that. Can I use adb or fastboot? Or clockworkmod? Will these wipe the device? What are my options?
Thanks so much!
if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted version, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!
simms22 said:
if you want to keep your data and root then wait several hours after source is released and flash a rooted versiin, dirty. or you can flash the factory img. but you can not install an ota.
@rootSU its starting..!
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I'll write a thread tonight.
Please use the dedicated android L thread
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