Samsung Lost, Owes Apple over 1 Billion Dollars - AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL

Apple won the case against Samsung and now Samsung owes 1.05 Billion. This is really bad news for this industry. Patenting a rectangle with curved edges is ridiculous! Karma, I hope Apple gets theirs one day. Here's a link. http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/24/apple-v-samsung-decision/
I wonder what this really means for Samsung. Taking a Billion Dollar hit isnt going to be easy I dont care who you are, a Billion will hurt ya! (cept maybe gunny) Isnt HTC and Apple still fighting over One X Links? Hox is still pretty much HTC's Flagship phone. For some reason the talk about HTC/ATT being scared of Apple..(and that's why our bootloader is locked) makes a little more sense now. I dismissed it originally. HTC will be settling out of court i betcha lol. And doing whatever Apple asks. Scary stuff!

This really should go in the Android general discussion.
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This really should go in the Android general discussion.
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Then report it.

There are already several threads in android general section for this.

Samsung was pretty blatant in their copying of several of those patents tho. Not 1.5 bil. Worth but hey. Dont copy, its that simple:beer:
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The hox physical design should be safe, don't think that even Apple can claim that the appearance is even remotely similar. Sadly Sense uses a green icon with rounded corners and a white phone inside so we may soon be treated to a blue icon with rounded corners and a yellow phone inside Pinch to zoom and multi touch are probably the most serious issue and as much as I dislike Apple products you have to admit that these are somewhat non trivial aspects of their functionality. However that is probably an Android thing and Apple will have to go after Google for it. And that is where it gets interesting because Google will claim that it makes no money from Android directly and one has to wonder if they have something in the Motorola pile of patents to sue Apple over.

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What if apple wins

http://www.todaysiphone.com/2011/05...t-court-orders-samsung-to-hand-over-products/
Probably will make Samsung have to stop using similar designs (to a certain degree) and ford over quite a bit of money to apple.
My device becomes a valuable collectors item!!!!!!
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If Apple makes a curved-glass iPhone (just like Galaxy S) as is currently rumored, they are hypocrites of the highest order.
we went through this in the captivate section. apple is just trying to project an image as an orrigonator andt take credit from those that they have coppied. it has little to do with winning or losing a lawsuit. the galaxy s resembles samsung phones that predate the iphone more than it resembles the iphone., if anything they will have to change the launcher layout a little. the funny thing is that lg and sony have copied many of the features of tw. and lg took it to the point that they also look pretty much like an iphone, but looks almost exactly like a sgs. look at the opimus black. if that doesnt say sgs i dont know what does. apple is only mad because on the international market the sgs is as successful as the iphone.
when it comes to looks apple has never had a style of there own instead they copy the look of an obscure product line from the 1960's and hope nobody notices.
http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future
and as far as the iphone form factor goes
http://techexa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Apple-vs-Samsung.jpg
so all apple has to stnd on is that the app drawer functions similar to apples home screen. but those arent even the same thing. it is not like the whole user experience is the same. just the scrolling directions and ability to reorganise icons.
there si more to it than that as well samsung is counter suing for infringment on something like 20+ patents in mobile technology. what people dont realize is that samsung is the largest patent holder in mobile technology and is a much larger company than apple, also apple purchases many parts from samsung, the iphone 4 and ipad use basically hummingbird processors with a lesser gpu. they may be using new suppliers now but im sure it cant help them to have messed up that business deal.
New interface at the most...
I like how Samsung has to show apple upcoming phones like the infuse I already own!
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Funny, Samsung supply's chips for Apple products. Apple shot themselves in the foot one to many times.
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Funny, Samsung supply's chips for Apple products. Apple shot themselves in the foot one to many times.
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I would LOVE for Samsung to drop them as a customer.
There are other companies that can produce the parts, but Samsung is actually big enough to keep up with the orders.
Anyways, they make the most money from Sony, so Sony is more precious to them then Apple.
(if they did get dropped, that iPhone 5 delay would go from September to July of 2012)
People still want Iphones?
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People still want Iphones?
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lol, you know the day I saw an Apple employee discreetly use her Android I switched.
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lol, you know the day I saw an Apple employee discreetly use her Android I switched.
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Funny, I saw an apple employee with a android device as well. "Shhh, don't tell."

Just when you thought apple was pathetic enough....

Apple lawsuit victory on HTC gone to their head and now they're suing samsung to to stop the release of the galaxy s 3 in the u.s, but i guessing apples motto now for competition is if u cant beat em, then sue them and try to get a ban on the product lmao
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57449407-37/apple-may-seek-u.s-ban-of-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-today/
Oh man dont get me started i will get kicked off this fourm but yeah that is old news the judge decided that he has more real world issues to deal with first so the case is being delayed but yea they arw trying.
I really can't stand apple! I have never and WILL never own an apple product! And if my kids ever bring an apple product into the house... their grounded lol!
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Business world is a dog eat dog world. But this news did leave a disdain taste in my mouth about apple. I do own an ipod because its like a monoply now when it comes to mp3 devices but thats as far as im going with apple products.
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Yeah I believe they're not going to try to ban the S3 as was their initial plan, they're just going to sue for patents. At the end of the day, Apple does rely heavily on Samsung for parts..
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F**k Apple, I refuse to own anything from them. Like, seriously...suing others because you have no innovation left. As for iPods, I use my Galaxy S2 for that...hense my really big sd card.
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I have a galaxy s2 with 32gb of storage and am soon to be getting a galaxy s3 with 80gb of storage ( 16internal + 64gb sd card) AND another 50gb of dropbox on top of that..to make 130gb of storage totaling... why in the world would I need an ipod? One device that does all
Btw I'm also very anti-apple. I will never own another product of theirs and one will not be brought into my house by wife or kids
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I'm not anti-apple but apple throwing out lawsuits left and right because they don't want competition seems childish.
Well when Samsung uses some of apples patented material what do you expect to happen? And their galaxy tab looked EXACTLY like the iPad and it comes in the exact same box with the exact same charger and you expect them not to sue? I'm not saying I hate Samsung and im an apple fanboy because I obviously own one a gsii and not an iPhone and will probably get the gsiii but don't go around yelling f**k apple when you probably don't even know what its about or because you just don't like them. They only sue because they are trying to protect their patented materials and they most likely won't win anyway.
Also this forum is for SGH-T989 discussions not GSIII and apple discussions btw.
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Well when Samsung uses some of apples patented material what do you expect to happen? And their galaxy tab looked EXACTLY like the iPad and it comes in the exact same box with the exact same charger and you expect them not to sue? I'm not saying I hate Samsung and im an apple fanboy because I obviously own one a gsii and not an iPhone and will probably get the gsiii but don't go around yelling f**k apple when you probably don't even know what its about or because you just don't like them. They only sue because they are trying to protect their patented materials and they most likely won't win anyway.
Also this forum is for SGH-T989 discussions not GSIII and apple discussions btw.
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because apple is the first to make square phones/tablets with rounded edges! such innovation! everyone elseshould make phones that are shaped like a circle!
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JPOKeefe said:
Well when Samsung uses some of apples patented material what do you expect to happen? And their galaxy tab looked EXACTLY like the iPad and it comes in the exact same box with the exact same charger and you expect them not to sue? I'm not saying I hate Samsung and im an apple fanboy because I obviously own one a gsii and not an iPhone and will probably get the gsiii but don't go around yelling f**k apple when you probably don't even know what its about or because you just don't like them. They only sue because they are trying to protect their patented materials and they most likely won't win anyway.
Also this forum is for SGH-T989 discussions not GSIII and apple discussions btw.
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I agree with this. With the announcement of the SGS3 Sammy debuted "S-Voice" which of course a direct rip off of Siri. And the original touch wiz tried to look like iOS.
I hate Apple as much as the next guy. I disdain their devices, I hate OSX with a passion(seriously the most illogical annoying piece of software ive ever used). But Samsung does copy them, and Samsung needs to stop or pay the price.
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because apple is the first to make square phones/tablets with rounded edges! such innovation! everyone elseshould make phones that are shaped like a circle!
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Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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JPOKeefe said:
Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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Its pretty hard to detract from a black bezel and aluminum back. There's a dozen different tablet manufacturers out there and I can't see a dozen clearly defined designs being made for something so simple. There's a million different pencil makers too and guess what they all look the same so someone better start suing someone
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Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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You have a link for that or any source?
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I will say f**k Apple, or did we all just forget the Foxconn issue like Apple did.(rhetorical)
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JPOKeefe said:
Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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Without a link to your source I call BS. A Samsung lawyer defending Samsung would NEVER say he couldn't tell the difference between a Tab and an iPad. While there may similarities, the single button on the face of an iPad (that looks like no other button on any other tablet) is enough to tell them apart. Or, if looking at them from the back, the Apple logo is enough.
It's not about Apple protecting their legitimate IP, it's Apple abusing a broken patent system and getting patents granted that never should have been allowed, then turning around and suing every company that is in competition with them, using those patents as justification.
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Never have and never will own an Apple product.
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Hmm, whilst I have a strong dislike of the iPhone and the Macs there's no denying that the iPad is the king of tablets and the iPod is the king of MP3 players (although why you would buy an iPod over a mid-range Android phone I don't know).
That is one reason why I will never own anything from Apple!!
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I agree with this. With the announcement of the SGS3 Sammy debuted "S-Voice" which of course a direct rip off of Siri. And the original touch wiz tried to look like iOS.
I hate Apple as much as the next guy. I disdain their devices, I hate OSX with a passion(seriously the most illogical annoying piece of software ive ever used). But Samsung does copy them, and Samsung needs to stop or pay the price.
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Leaving aside previous products looking similar this news is about S3 which is not similar to iphone as it was designed to circumvent previous apple patent claims so in this case it is wrong of them to try banning it.
S voice is not a Siri rip off, its an assistant app and there are many such apps which also existed before Siri but we don't say Siri copied them anymore than we say a ford copies a ferrari because they can do the same thing and besides I don't think Siri is patented.
I agree Samsung have made similar looking products to apple but S3 is not one of them and apple just seem scared of the competition from it.
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yay more Apple attacking HTC

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/26/htc-apple-mistatements/
They want another import ban.
*facepalm*
This is just ridiculous. Apple can't just be a normal corporation that tries to make the best product?
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Google should go after Apple and seek an import ban for the notifications pull down that they blatantly ripped off of Android. That would put an end to this nonsense real quick.
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Android is open source and publishes their code. (which I'm thankful for)
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Oh yeah, let's bash HTC for googles own application.
This is freaking ridiculous. Also, get ready for Apple to start suing every ultrabook manufacturer too since they got the patent for a "vaguely sorta wedge shaped notebook that has any sort of hinge"
See here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ent-problems-ahead-for-ultrabook-makers/20732
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This is freaking ridiculous. Also, get ready for Apple to start suing every ultrabook manufacturer too since they got the patent for a "vaguely sorta wedge shaped notebook that has any sort of hinge"
See here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ent-problems-ahead-for-ultrabook-makers/20732
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I don't think apple would do that. IMO if apple did companies like ASUS Sony and Samsung would be able to say but in ours is the most up to date state of the art tech. Which would cause apple to admit they're between a year and two years behind the competition. Which could result in a price fixing lawsuit. Just my guess and two cents. But my order for the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 was cancelled because of the new ITC ban against it. But it freed me to order the nexus tablet
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Samsung will destroy apple in lawsuit war at the end. trust me..
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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What kills me is on one hand Apple sues the crap out of samsung all the time, and on the other, gets lots of components for their products from them.
And I wonder if the new iPhone will be powered by a Snapdragon S4.
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I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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They buy them because you pretty much take it out of the box, turn it on, and use it. There's really no remotely complex setup stuff required. I mean, give an average user an iPhone and they will be up and running with most thing up and running within a few minutes. Android is a bit more complicated for the average user (and I don't think too many people will disagree with me, the emphasis was on AVERAGE, ie not most of us here on these forums).
Different people want different things out of their devices, that's just how it goes.
Apple's legal team, however, screw them.
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I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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Gonna have to disagree with overpriced. The resale value of their products is worth the extra upfront premium alone, not to mention their hardware is always top quality. Specs aren't everything.
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You can have my 21.5 inch iMac when you pry it from my cold dead hands. However I despised the iPhone. Android is an awesome mobile platform, only one I like as much is WebOS and it's dead.
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You can have my 21.5 inch iMac when you pry it from my cold dead hands. However I despised the iPhone. Android is an awesome mobile platform, only one I like as much is WebOS and it's dead.
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I feel the same way about my MBP. Best investment I ever made.
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thank god the man who invented the wheel didnt have a legal team like this. His great great great great......grand kids would still be making us use hexagon wheels cars they didn't manufacture. Even then, if the corners were to soft, they would still sue
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What kills me is on one hand Apple sues the crap out of samsung all the time, and on the other, gets lots of components for their products from them.
And I wonder if the new iPhone will be powered by a Snapdragon S4.
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Yeah, that bothers me as well. I don't understand why Samsung et al aren't playing hardball.
My only hope is that Apple goes back down the tubes. When Steve initially retired, they went down, and didn't rise until he returned. Unfortunately, I think they're too big and broad to fail like they did before.
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I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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+1 to that

Android R.I.P. - The Grips of Jobs' Dead Hands

Android, and every other touchscreen OS, (besides iOS) you might as well say goodbye to...
Apple now has the power to destroy Android, Windows Phone, and any other iOS Touchscreen Competitor... Steve Jobs wins this round (for now anyways...)
How long before Apple has the S3 Pulled? This is the top iPhone competitor besides the DROID RAZR Series, with the S3 far ahead...
Check this out:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
This could spell the end for Android and this phone, and I will not be a happy camper if I can't upgrade because of Apple... I will throw a major tantrum!
Google, act & appeal fast and fix this mess!!!!
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I am not saying this will happen, but is quite possible if the government doesn't block Apple in their tracks from doing so... (I think once Google Appeals, these parents will be made standard for touchscreens...)
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Android, and every other touchscreen OS, (besides iOS) you might as well say goodbye to...
Apple now has the power to destroy Android, Windows Phone, and any other iOS Touchscreen Competitor... Steve Jobs wins this round (for now anyways...)
How long before Apple has the S3 Pulled? This is the top iPhone competitor besides the DROID RAZR Series, with the S3 far ahead...
Check this out:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
This could spell the end for Android and this phone, and I will not be a happy camper if I can't upgrade because of Apple... I will throw a major tantrum!
Google, act & appeal fast and fix this mess!!!!
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If this ever happens i would rather go back to a flip phone or have none at all. I would never give apple any of my money.
I refuse to get an Apple device, but this won't effect available devices in stock or on eBay, so good Android devices will be very rare if this goes the way Apple wants... I'll tell you one thing, eBay prices for Android Devices will go sky high.... (used or not...)
Edit: I miss flip phones anyways, so I'll go old school if I have to...
i have an ipad, and this makes me want to smash it. Apple, you do not own the world, you were not the first to create a "list" on an electronic device. If your so afraid of Samsung, then just build a darn phone with a bigger screen, i wont buy it, but tons of other people would. Fair competition is good for business, it keeps ingenuity alive and keeps engineers pushing the limits of what can be done. Competition is THE ONLY REASON we have the superphones we have now. If apple owns all the rights to make anything that even resembles a smartphone, we will have the iphone 4s renamed and sold as a new product for the next decade.
Whoever the judge is that granted that patent, is an idiot.
it will never happen. Nothing to add.
Well some of what this says they currently have rights to like list view is bs because before the first iPhone was released I was able to use list view on Windows mobile for years. So unless I've miss read, something isn't right or maybe my aging memory is wrong.
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it will never happen. Nothing to add.
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I know you said nothing to add, but my point is Apple had been on a wining streak, so hopefully the government fixes this and makes these touch screen parents standard...
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it will never happen. Nothing to add.
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I have an ipad, and this makes me want to smash it.
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Do a factory reset, sell it, buy a Galaxy Tab, then shove it in your Apple Store representatives face showing features that the iPad doesn't have... No reason to smash something worth hundreds, (although the company who makes it is pure evil...) But I agree with what you were saying completely...
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Whoever the judge is that granted that patent, is an idiot.
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I wanted to say that in my article, but couldn't so I said the judge made a "very poor decision".
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Do a factory reset, sell it, buy a Galaxy Tab, then shove it in your Apple Store representatives face showing features that the iPad doesn't have... No reason to smash something worth hundreds, (although the company who makes it is pure evil...) But I agree with what you were saying completely...
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I was actually thinking of doing this over the past few weeks, i had an android tablet a few years ago, but the number and quality of apps was underwhelming, how is it now?
tjb433 said:
I was actually thinking of doing this over the past few weeks, i had an android tablet a few years ago, but the number and quality of apps was underwhelming, how is it now?
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I have the HTC EVO View, while I am not a fan of HTC, nor the EVO Series, I don't regret the purchase... Now there is wayyy more support for tablets and specialized tablet UIs.... Now just make sure you get a high end one that will be upgraded to Jelly Bean... (It's not worth getting one on a data contract, as you can tether from your phone to your tablet...)
Note: The EVO View nor HTC Flyer will NOT Get ICS nor JB so don't even bother...
This is utterly ridiculous google needs to stop sitting on their hands and be more aggressive.
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This is utterly ridiculous google needs to stop sitting on their hands and be more aggressive.
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You couldn't have put it any better... This happened around the 17th of this month... and we (the public) have yet to hear of any response from Google...
This is for USA only other countries won't tolerate this bs. Only in the USA. Where they're are so proud of apple for outsourcing jobs that Americans badly need smucks.
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Android is here to stay. Google and samsung have some pretty good lawyers too. It's total BS that this kinda stuff even goes on. The only people getting rich on this are the lawyers. If they were smart, they'd sit across from each other at a conference table and make a truce and move on.
Now that Jobs is dead, it's just a matter of time before Apple slips into irrelevance. Nobody there has the passion he had about his company, and nobody is gonna defend it like he did.
That 40 billion they have will be squandered away on bogus patent law suits. Money that could have been spent on more cutting edge development. Everybody knows that patents are crap. Your better off not even applying for a patent and get the thing to market first. By the time they figure out what you did, you come up with something new. A patent application is an invitation and a headstart for everybody else to steal your idea. The company thats ahead of the development curve, and gets it to market fast and furious, makes the money.
Boo hoo...they stole my idea:crying:
Apple is a joke. This is what happens when they feel threaten by a competitor. I will give it to Apple the iPhone was a brake through, but since then Android came out and is user friendly with developers willing to make the devices better and faster more customizable. Making the Android OS just better period. Apple needs to realize there are other players in this game so step up as Android HAS. They know Android IS the future and their scared they will be left behind. Lol I laugh a Apple, I'm going to tell them like I do any young kid with a bad attitude grow up.
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I wanted to say that in my article, but couldn't so I said the judge made a "very poor decision".
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The court should get sued for taking away our right to choose what we want to purchase. I will rather NOT have a phone or an old crappy phone than own a crapple device. I will order my phones through China or Japanese manufactures. but owning a crappy device I will not!
Good read here as well arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/if-android-is-a-stolen-product-then-so-was-the-iphone/
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Oh and just to add a good question shouldn't someone sue Apple for using someone else's technology like LCD, LED screens, let them have the right to the patents a lot it would do them with a device with no screen.
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Surprised about the Apple vs Samsung verdict?

Well I figured since this is a Samsung phone forum I could post this here... Anyways mod delete if you feel like...
My point is I am not surprised about the verdict today at all...
Let's face it.. this doesn't make sense to me.. Apple is a huge American company, Samsung is from Korea.. so for a case so big shouldn't it happen in some international country or something? And plus guess what... the jury is 9 American citizens. Seriously? They probably have some iStuffs, their wives,husbands,kid,friends probably do.. so which side do you think they would be on?
Anyways this is what I think, and why I am not surprised Apple won on all counts..
What do you think?
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Hopefully Google/Motorola will avenge Samsung's US lost to crApple.
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Well I figured since this is a Samsung phone forum I could post this here... Anyways mod delete if you feel like...
My point is I am not surprised about the verdict today at all...
Let's face it.. this doesn't make sense to me.. Apple is a huge American company, Samsung is from Korea.. so for a case so big shouldn't it happen in some international country or something? And plus guess what... the jury is 9 American citizens. Seriously? They probably have some iStuffs, their wives,husbands,kid,friends probably do.. so which side do you think they would be on?
Anyways this is what I think, and why I am not surprised Apple won on all counts..
What do you think?
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Oh I knew it was gonna turn out like this. About 75% of the population here see a smartphone and label it a iPhone, they see a tablet and label it a iPad. Who did you think the American public was going to side with. That's the power of advertisement Apple controls over all smartphones & tablets. When you are able to replace the generic name of a product with your brand name for that same product and have the whole population calling it that way you are in control. (Q-tip, Vaseline, Band-Aid, ChapStick, Windex, iPod, etc.)
Really when you think about it, the ruling isn't surprising at all. Apple wants to get rid if their competitors and lawsuits are just one way to do it. In my mind, a really cheap and almost disgraceful way to do it, but, that's politics for you! No one remembers Tucker (old car company) but i was wiped out by the Detroit 3 through a lawsuit as well. Only 50 cars were ever produced because of it.
I hate politics, but this is how things go down... Hopefully, up here in Canada we don't have repercussions from the American trial, but who knows right? All three of my phones have been Samsung, and I want my fourth to be one as well, even if I have to buy international.
Apple... Great products, however they need to stop suing about everything. But that's politics, and I hate them.
Samsung... Best of luck to you. I want another great phone... Maybe make it in the shape of a circle so Apple can't sue about the shape (how can you patent a shape anyway!? I might as well patent the sphere and sue all the ball makers in the world. )
May the force be with you Sammy
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I'm not surprise with the verdict. I expected crApple to win, not because of the patent infringement claims, but due to their huge advantages. Basically, Samsung was the underdog in this case. Keep in mind that crApple's headquarter is just a mere 10 miles away from the courthouse and the jurors were picked from the heart of Silicon Valley, where Steve Jobs was from.
It could be that they let Apple win because Apple's a really big company that supports the American Economy
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saywhatt said:
It could be that they let Apple win because Apple's a really big company that supports the American Economy
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Rigggghhht...
All those 'Designed in California, Made in China' fine print is really that hard to understand... it says California in there so it must be good for America?
Not to mention they are really good at dodging local/state/federal taxes. They have a good army of lawyers doing just that outside of the litigation ones that fought Samsung.
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Rigggghhht...
All those 'Made in China' print must be missed on all their products.
Not to mention they are really good at dodging local/state/federal taxes.
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[BREAKING NEWS] Apple files infringement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.......
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[BREAKING NEWS] Apple files infringement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.......
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The interesting part about this situation is that Samsung makes apple's proccessors... I wonder if this will piss Samsung off enough to call it quits... Apple is Samsung's number one customer, so I doubt they will be able to cut ties without losing a major amount of income
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What goes around comes around.. Apple will get theirs soon enough.
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Google needs to step up and revenge for Samsung. Apple is going after all android phones manufacture after this. Even Nexus lineup.
Oh yeah. F##k Apple. I will never buy their products again. Period.
I hope that google does step up and do something about this. Most likely their probably not wich upsets me to see crApple winning.
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I was kind of surprised since the jury got to use some of the Samsung devices to compare. Usually when I'm around someone who is messing with their iPhlop I let them mess around with my phone and 90% of the time am asked if I have any for sale.
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Its sad really. Do you see Bentley and Mercedes suing Hyundai for making their cars look like ripoffs? Designer clothes stores suing old navy for clothes that look exactly the same? A third grader for drawing a rounded rectangle??
I just couldn't help at Tim cook's release to his employees about how they were reluctant to sue and how they want to protect innovation for all. Bunch of goddamn money hungry elitist assholes. If they really cared about innovation and technology they would be a little more concerned with moving the whole segment forward, not hoarding everything to themselves.
That being said, some things Samsung did really are ridiculous copies (the charger cube for our phone looks exactly like the iPhones...)...and they should have partially lost.
They won't make it very long after people don't think their **** is so hot anymore and they burn all their cash on stupid lawsuits...watch out in the near future for a bombed product upgrade...could come as early as the iPhone 5 I bet.
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I don't see how Apple won in a business sense.. Samsung had already established themselves as the number one smartphone manufacturer in the world by focusing on territory. Now they can focus more on design. It was a billion dollar gamble that paid of nicely. They don't need to do anything but but put out a bunch of vanilla Android devices with top of the line hardware and a physical design that doesn't look like an iPhone. There are many possibilities. This was a win for Samsung and us since we will get less iOS look and feel and better functionality.
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The fact and the matter is... apple only sues Samsung because it s scared of how Samsung has become #1 and wants to destroy it...
Like I don't think Samsung is the maker of phone with rectangle and round corners, how come apple only sues Samsung? That's cause Samsung is the most successful one
My only hope is for Motorola/Google wins against Apple
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As much as I love android I do remember shopping for a phone and picking up the galaxy s fascinate and thinking to myself "wow this really looks like an iphone".. Samsung really should have done something to better differentiate the 2 phones.. However I never for one second got it confused with an iphone.. I love Samsung phones but some of their phones did look like blatant copies.. I agree that a rectangle should not be patented but i also think that Apple has a right to not have their products copied so closely... That is why they won their case..
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rymanh said:
As much as I love android I do remember shipping for a phone and picking up the galaxy s fascinate and thinking to myself "wow this really looks like an iphone".. Samsung really should have done something to better differentiate the 2 phones.. However I never for one second got it confused with an iphone.. I love Samsung phones but some of their phones did look like blatant copies.. I agree that a rectangle should not be patented but i also think that Apple has a right to not have their products copied so closely... That is why they won their case..
I'll probably get flamed for this post lol but its my opinion and I ain't afraid of it
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They should re try the case with better court circumstances, Americans don't know apple is bolting their opportunities to the floor with dead bolts using iPhone and iPad ios closed source software.
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If nothing else... It may be end of touchwiz. Time for Samsung to ship cm roms standard.
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