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What if apple wins

http://www.todaysiphone.com/2011/05...t-court-orders-samsung-to-hand-over-products/

Probably will make Samsung have to stop using similar designs (to a certain degree) and ford over quite a bit of money to apple.

My device becomes a valuable collectors item!!!!!!
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If Apple makes a curved-glass iPhone (just like Galaxy S) as is currently rumored, they are hypocrites of the highest order.

we went through this in the captivate section. apple is just trying to project an image as an orrigonator andt take credit from those that they have coppied. it has little to do with winning or losing a lawsuit. the galaxy s resembles samsung phones that predate the iphone more than it resembles the iphone., if anything they will have to change the launcher layout a little. the funny thing is that lg and sony have copied many of the features of tw. and lg took it to the point that they also look pretty much like an iphone, but looks almost exactly like a sgs. look at the opimus black. if that doesnt say sgs i dont know what does. apple is only mad because on the international market the sgs is as successful as the iphone.
when it comes to looks apple has never had a style of there own instead they copy the look of an obscure product line from the 1960's and hope nobody notices.
http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future
and as far as the iphone form factor goes
http://techexa.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Apple-vs-Samsung.jpg
so all apple has to stnd on is that the app drawer functions similar to apples home screen. but those arent even the same thing. it is not like the whole user experience is the same. just the scrolling directions and ability to reorganise icons.
there si more to it than that as well samsung is counter suing for infringment on something like 20+ patents in mobile technology. what people dont realize is that samsung is the largest patent holder in mobile technology and is a much larger company than apple, also apple purchases many parts from samsung, the iphone 4 and ipad use basically hummingbird processors with a lesser gpu. they may be using new suppliers now but im sure it cant help them to have messed up that business deal.

New interface at the most...

I like how Samsung has to show apple upcoming phones like the infuse I already own!
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Funny, Samsung supply's chips for Apple products. Apple shot themselves in the foot one to many times.

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Funny, Samsung supply's chips for Apple products. Apple shot themselves in the foot one to many times.
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I would LOVE for Samsung to drop them as a customer.
There are other companies that can produce the parts, but Samsung is actually big enough to keep up with the orders.
Anyways, they make the most money from Sony, so Sony is more precious to them then Apple.
(if they did get dropped, that iPhone 5 delay would go from September to July of 2012)

People still want Iphones?

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People still want Iphones?
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lol, you know the day I saw an Apple employee discreetly use her Android I switched.
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lol, you know the day I saw an Apple employee discreetly use her Android I switched.
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Funny, I saw an apple employee with a android device as well. "Shhh, don't tell."

Just when you thought apple was pathetic enough....

Apple lawsuit victory on HTC gone to their head and now they're suing samsung to to stop the release of the galaxy s 3 in the u.s, but i guessing apples motto now for competition is if u cant beat em, then sue them and try to get a ban on the product lmao
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57449407-37/apple-may-seek-u.s-ban-of-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-today/

Oh man dont get me started i will get kicked off this fourm but yeah that is old news the judge decided that he has more real world issues to deal with first so the case is being delayed but yea they arw trying.

I really can't stand apple! I have never and WILL never own an apple product! And if my kids ever bring an apple product into the house... their grounded lol!
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Business world is a dog eat dog world. But this news did leave a disdain taste in my mouth about apple. I do own an ipod because its like a monoply now when it comes to mp3 devices but thats as far as im going with apple products.
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Yeah I believe they're not going to try to ban the S3 as was their initial plan, they're just going to sue for patents. At the end of the day, Apple does rely heavily on Samsung for parts..
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F**k Apple, I refuse to own anything from them. Like, seriously...suing others because you have no innovation left. As for iPods, I use my Galaxy S2 for that...hense my really big sd card.
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I have a galaxy s2 with 32gb of storage and am soon to be getting a galaxy s3 with 80gb of storage ( 16internal + 64gb sd card) AND another 50gb of dropbox on top of that..to make 130gb of storage totaling... why in the world would I need an ipod? One device that does all
Btw I'm also very anti-apple. I will never own another product of theirs and one will not be brought into my house by wife or kids
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I'm not anti-apple but apple throwing out lawsuits left and right because they don't want competition seems childish.

Well when Samsung uses some of apples patented material what do you expect to happen? And their galaxy tab looked EXACTLY like the iPad and it comes in the exact same box with the exact same charger and you expect them not to sue? I'm not saying I hate Samsung and im an apple fanboy because I obviously own one a gsii and not an iPhone and will probably get the gsiii but don't go around yelling f**k apple when you probably don't even know what its about or because you just don't like them. They only sue because they are trying to protect their patented materials and they most likely won't win anyway.
Also this forum is for SGH-T989 discussions not GSIII and apple discussions btw.
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Well when Samsung uses some of apples patented material what do you expect to happen? And their galaxy tab looked EXACTLY like the iPad and it comes in the exact same box with the exact same charger and you expect them not to sue? I'm not saying I hate Samsung and im an apple fanboy because I obviously own one a gsii and not an iPhone and will probably get the gsiii but don't go around yelling f**k apple when you probably don't even know what its about or because you just don't like them. They only sue because they are trying to protect their patented materials and they most likely won't win anyway.
Also this forum is for SGH-T989 discussions not GSIII and apple discussions btw.
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because apple is the first to make square phones/tablets with rounded edges! such innovation! everyone elseshould make phones that are shaped like a circle!
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JPOKeefe said:
Well when Samsung uses some of apples patented material what do you expect to happen? And their galaxy tab looked EXACTLY like the iPad and it comes in the exact same box with the exact same charger and you expect them not to sue? I'm not saying I hate Samsung and im an apple fanboy because I obviously own one a gsii and not an iPhone and will probably get the gsiii but don't go around yelling f**k apple when you probably don't even know what its about or because you just don't like them. They only sue because they are trying to protect their patented materials and they most likely won't win anyway.
Also this forum is for SGH-T989 discussions not GSIII and apple discussions btw.
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I agree with this. With the announcement of the SGS3 Sammy debuted "S-Voice" which of course a direct rip off of Siri. And the original touch wiz tried to look like iOS.
I hate Apple as much as the next guy. I disdain their devices, I hate OSX with a passion(seriously the most illogical annoying piece of software ive ever used). But Samsung does copy them, and Samsung needs to stop or pay the price.

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because apple is the first to make square phones/tablets with rounded edges! such innovation! everyone elseshould make phones that are shaped like a circle!
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Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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JPOKeefe said:
Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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Its pretty hard to detract from a black bezel and aluminum back. There's a dozen different tablet manufacturers out there and I can't see a dozen clearly defined designs being made for something so simple. There's a million different pencil makers too and guess what they all look the same so someone better start suing someone
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JPOKeefe said:
Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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You have a link for that or any source?
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I will say f**k Apple, or did we all just forget the Foxconn issue like Apple did.(rhetorical)
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JPOKeefe said:
Its not because its rounded its because it looked EXACTLY the same. Apple even asked a Samsung lawyer that was defending Samsung if he could tell them apart when he held both of them up during a court trial and he couldn't tell them apart. You can tell an iPad apart from a blackberry Playbook or the Sony tablet or the nook or kindle because they didn't completely copy the design.
Again I'm not an apple fanboy and love Samsung phones I just don't like people flaming, especially when its in the wrong place, when they don't seem to know what they're talking about and just like to diss apple whenever they can.
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Without a link to your source I call BS. A Samsung lawyer defending Samsung would NEVER say he couldn't tell the difference between a Tab and an iPad. While there may similarities, the single button on the face of an iPad (that looks like no other button on any other tablet) is enough to tell them apart. Or, if looking at them from the back, the Apple logo is enough.
It's not about Apple protecting their legitimate IP, it's Apple abusing a broken patent system and getting patents granted that never should have been allowed, then turning around and suing every company that is in competition with them, using those patents as justification.
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Never have and never will own an Apple product.
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Hmm, whilst I have a strong dislike of the iPhone and the Macs there's no denying that the iPad is the king of tablets and the iPod is the king of MP3 players (although why you would buy an iPod over a mid-range Android phone I don't know).

That is one reason why I will never own anything from Apple!!

Oskiee said:
I agree with this. With the announcement of the SGS3 Sammy debuted "S-Voice" which of course a direct rip off of Siri. And the original touch wiz tried to look like iOS.
I hate Apple as much as the next guy. I disdain their devices, I hate OSX with a passion(seriously the most illogical annoying piece of software ive ever used). But Samsung does copy them, and Samsung needs to stop or pay the price.
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Leaving aside previous products looking similar this news is about S3 which is not similar to iphone as it was designed to circumvent previous apple patent claims so in this case it is wrong of them to try banning it.
S voice is not a Siri rip off, its an assistant app and there are many such apps which also existed before Siri but we don't say Siri copied them anymore than we say a ford copies a ferrari because they can do the same thing and besides I don't think Siri is patented.
I agree Samsung have made similar looking products to apple but S3 is not one of them and apple just seem scared of the competition from it.
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yay more Apple attacking HTC

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2012/06/26/htc-apple-mistatements/
They want another import ban.

*facepalm*
This is just ridiculous. Apple can't just be a normal corporation that tries to make the best product?
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Google should go after Apple and seek an import ban for the notifications pull down that they blatantly ripped off of Android. That would put an end to this nonsense real quick.
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Android is open source and publishes their code. (which I'm thankful for)
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Oh yeah, let's bash HTC for googles own application.

This is freaking ridiculous. Also, get ready for Apple to start suing every ultrabook manufacturer too since they got the patent for a "vaguely sorta wedge shaped notebook that has any sort of hinge"
See here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ent-problems-ahead-for-ultrabook-makers/20732

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This is freaking ridiculous. Also, get ready for Apple to start suing every ultrabook manufacturer too since they got the patent for a "vaguely sorta wedge shaped notebook that has any sort of hinge"
See here: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ent-problems-ahead-for-ultrabook-makers/20732
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I don't think apple would do that. IMO if apple did companies like ASUS Sony and Samsung would be able to say but in ours is the most up to date state of the art tech. Which would cause apple to admit they're between a year and two years behind the competition. Which could result in a price fixing lawsuit. Just my guess and two cents. But my order for the Samsung galaxy tab 10.1 was cancelled because of the new ITC ban against it. But it freed me to order the nexus tablet
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Samsung will destroy apple in lawsuit war at the end. trust me..

I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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What kills me is on one hand Apple sues the crap out of samsung all the time, and on the other, gets lots of components for their products from them.
And I wonder if the new iPhone will be powered by a Snapdragon S4.

k4p741nkrunch said:
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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They buy them because you pretty much take it out of the box, turn it on, and use it. There's really no remotely complex setup stuff required. I mean, give an average user an iPhone and they will be up and running with most thing up and running within a few minutes. Android is a bit more complicated for the average user (and I don't think too many people will disagree with me, the emphasis was on AVERAGE, ie not most of us here on these forums).
Different people want different things out of their devices, that's just how it goes.
Apple's legal team, however, screw them.

k4p741nkrunch said:
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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Gonna have to disagree with overpriced. The resale value of their products is worth the extra upfront premium alone, not to mention their hardware is always top quality. Specs aren't everything.
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You can have my 21.5 inch iMac when you pry it from my cold dead hands. However I despised the iPhone. Android is an awesome mobile platform, only one I like as much is WebOS and it's dead.

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You can have my 21.5 inch iMac when you pry it from my cold dead hands. However I despised the iPhone. Android is an awesome mobile platform, only one I like as much is WebOS and it's dead.
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I feel the same way about my MBP. Best investment I ever made.
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thank god the man who invented the wheel didnt have a legal team like this. His great great great great......grand kids would still be making us use hexagon wheels cars they didn't manufacture. Even then, if the corners were to soft, they would still sue

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What kills me is on one hand Apple sues the crap out of samsung all the time, and on the other, gets lots of components for their products from them.
And I wonder if the new iPhone will be powered by a Snapdragon S4.
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Yeah, that bothers me as well. I don't understand why Samsung et al aren't playing hardball.
My only hope is that Apple goes back down the tubes. When Steve initially retired, they went down, and didn't rise until he returned. Unfortunately, I think they're too big and broad to fail like they did before.
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k4p741nkrunch said:
I just don't get it. At this point why does anyone buy apple products?? Locked down software, overpriced hardware, stolen ideas, and to top it off they're spearheaded by a collection of the most stuck-up fartknockers on the planet.
I for one vow to never purchase another apple product for as long as I live. Who's with me?
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+1 to that

Google seeks US ban on iPhones, iPads, Macs

I have some beer and chips left from the Samsung vs Apple case. But I'll buy a new couch for this one!
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/08/18/0647242/google-seeks-us-ban-on-iphones-ipads-macs
Article: http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...les-new-patent-case-against-apple-at-itc.html

I really hope Google puts them in their place.
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I like apple products and I doubt that there will ever be a ban on them but..If they lose this it would serve them right for going and suing companies over extremely broad patents
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Time to fight back the apple monster

With crApple's barrage of bogus patent infringement lawsuits, it was only a matter of time before it was going to get ugly with Google firing back. No matter who wins, in the end, we all lose.

I was having a really bad day. I read this and now really good day!

rotten apple, anyways one must admit, it has been doing great in the past few years. their market value tops 600 billion atm！
i once swore never would i buy an apple product to use myself. except someone gives it to me or as gifts to others, too bad most people love it. sad irony.
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I have some beer and chips left from the Samsung vs Apple case. But I'll buy a new couch for this one!
http://apple.slashdot.org/story/12/08/18/0647242/google-seeks-us-ban-on-iphones-ipads-macs
Article: http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/20...les-new-patent-case-against-apple-at-itc.html
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+1 Go Google!!!!

I really hope apple gets what they deserve after all the unnecessary suing they've been doing -____-
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Agreed, GO GOOGLE!
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Forums for an Android phone supporting Google in their lawsuit pursuits? Who would've guessed?
Although I'm guilty too.

Two words ****ing awesome
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I'm looking forward to see that happening
It'll be fun for the short while it last

Haha, well, taste of own medicine I suppose? But really this needs to stop, it's especially against Google's outlook. Two wrongs don't make a right... Just makes everything even worse than before.
I'm hoping this is to make an example, not to actually get this stuff banned, cause we should be honouring the people who pioneered this whole thing. I mean doesn't taking somebody's 'idea', running with it and then crushing them with it kind of even more douchey than what Apple have been doing lately?
It's the perfect counterclaim though, it could get the whole thing thrown out of court, which would be nice.

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Haha, well, taste of own medicine I suppose? But really this needs to stop, it's especially against Google's outlook. Two wrongs don't make a right... Just makes everything even worse than before.
I'm hoping this is to make an example, not to actually get this stuff banned, cause we should be honouring the people who pioneered this whole thing. I mean doesn't taking somebody's 'idea', running with it and then crushing them with it kind of even more douchey than what Apple have been doing lately?
It's the perfect counterclaim though, it could get the whole thing thrown out of court, which would be nice.
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I completely agree. I think its pointless scooping to there level
Plus there's no chance there getting banned
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I completely agree. I think its pointless scooping to there level
Plus there's no chance there getting banned
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Granted the chances of a ban are slim at best, and stooping down to their lvl is unnecessary, but it feels really really good
Also a good preventive measure, cuz the next thing you know Apple will try suing Alexander Bell for copyright infringement...

What next for samsung?

My only hope for Samsung is that they take a huge risk with the next phone, they have the tech to blow any phone away and I hope they set a new level far beyond other phones.
As we have seen Samsung are sitting on some very nice processor/gpu chips, add to that the whole flexible screen tech and other stuff we have yet to see.
They can bring it out when they like but as with most companies they give it to you in little stages, I mean look at the PS3 Xbox360, both have been around far too long, the new machines should have been out a year or so ago, the problem was/is us, we kept buying the machines, there was no reason for the companies to bring out new tech as we are happy to spend money on these ones, most firms will not move on if the old product is selling well.
Its kind of like this for our phones, why jump from say a 1mp camera to a 10mp when people will be happy with a 3mp, then the year later do a 5mp, if you jump to the extreme early on you soon run out of new things to help sell a product (Look at the Iphone3/3g/3gs and its little changes that were wow to so many and yet really were “are you kidding me my i8910 does that and more”)
Anyway point been Samsung can bring out a phone that will blow us all away, it would really screw other firms as it would force them to use tech they were dripping out to us, this is not something they want to do as it puts production costs up and it means they have to get creative, all these things cost a company a load of money.
If Samsung could afford to do this it would sort a lot of issues out, it would help show the world just how bad Apple really are, it would put an end to Samsung having to conform to Apple lawyers and turn it all around.
Maybe its just a silly thought but they can do this, it all comes down to cost, but I think the loss/maybe loss on the next tech would be worth it just to put them way ahead of the game.

Could you divide that text up in paragraphs to make it easier to read?

I thought it was divided into paragraphs.
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It's all up to Apple, ask them what is allowed..
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Apple are pathetic and i had a feeling they (would pay the judges off) win this case, mind you even though 1 billion is a serious amount of money to most to Samsung it's a drop in the ocean and if anything they will come out of this better as the hype surrounding their new flagship phone to replace the Galaxy S3 most probably next year will be huge and ive a feeling it will be a masterpiece.

Surely enough is enough! I cannot believe how corrupt the US Courts are.

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Surely enough is enough! I cannot believe how corrupt the US Courts are.
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It is not the court, but started in patent office that allowed all those bull**** patents to be registered and them the jury that has no idea about patents and yet decides about their validity.

Its been said already but look at a few facts.
America vs Korea
Case held in America, Held in California which is Apples home state....and the 12 random people? well at a guess its their home state=not a chance in hell.
There is a interview with one of the 12 and he even shows how fake it all was, he says that within the first day they all agreed that Apple was in the right, and yet a few lines later he says that they took the full amount of time given to look at the evidence and come to a decision=eh? you just said it was agreed on the 1st day?
Funny how over in Korea the case was 50/50 both pay up and both behave....state side Samsung please bend over while we shaft up.

Guys accept it! We lose the battle, we don't have any creativity, we are copying instead of innovating. Now is the time to say that I really regret buying this phone. Well I got an Xperia S so I'm still happy

LokiDemi said:
Guys accept it! We lose the battle, we don't have any creativity, we are copying instead of innovating. Now is the time to say that I really regret buying this phone. Well I got an Xperia S so I'm still happy
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Sony is not innovating either
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LokiDemi said:
Guys accept it! We lose the battle, we don't have any creativity, we are copying instead of innovating. Now is the time to say that I really regret buying this phone. Well I got an Xperia S so I'm still happy
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accept what? apple will sue sony one day for the very same multi touch patent and then you will how poor it is
anyway this topic is nowhere related to s3....

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Sony is not innovating either
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You're wrong kid, in fact Google is experimenting Xperia S for AOSP. Read the news. Sony is "Quiet but Deadly"!

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You're wrong kid, in fact Google is experimenting Xperia S for AOSP. Read the news. Sony is "Quiet but Deadly"!
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You called that innovating?
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bala_gamer said:
accept what? apple will sue sony one day for the very same multi touch patent and then you will how poor it is
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No, Sony will not be sued by apple for the very same multi touch patent, it's an Android feature. Google will be sued, this means all android 2.2 and up will be affected.

LokiDemi said:
No, Sony will not be sued by apple for the very same multi touch patent, it's an Android feature. Google will be sued, this means all android 2.2 and up will be affected.
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Then tell me why it didn't happen? Though its android feature with the likes of company like apple you don't have any surety for net getting sued.
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You called that innovating?
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Just watch and see kid. Just watch and see
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bala_gamer said:
Then tell me why it didn't happen? Though its android feature with the likes of company like apple you don't have any surety for net getting sued.
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Because Sony designed the iphones

What's next for Samsung? I know consorting with chip manufacturers stopping giving chips to Apple, iPhone fails and Samsung stops selling phones in America.
Then Apple has personally screwed all Americans over and they will call for blood and Apple dies.
I think that's reasonable.
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What's next for Samsung? I hope finally a phone without a physical home button. They'll presumably stop copying iPhone after this, so there'll be no reason for that button.

Yeah wonder how long the deal is with them to sell them chips, just wonder if they will pass when deal runs out.
I dont think the US knows just how fu%&ed they will be if Android phones were pulled from their shops.
But I guess the deal is worth a load of money as around 30% of the iphone4s was made by Samsung.
After all this I would think Apple are not well liked in Asia now?
I know it will not happen but I would love to see Samsung bring out a big leap in tech for their phones and not be sold in US, might wake people up to what they are missing.
As for Sony, they will do their thing, they have some nice looking phones but they always seem like a year behind most others.

@OP ( didn't wanna quote your whole post), first, ps3 and Xbox360 are fine, I think next year is when they should introduce the new generation. Second, Samsung will be just fine. They already have hardware power for decades, they just need to work on their designs. I'm sure they will innovate and do very well, they are just getting started. It sucks but it's normal that Apple is coming this hard at Samsung cause Sammy is really a threat to Apple. This whole patent thing is bogus and gives too much power to Apple and no room to innovate for the other OEMs. This is why I don't respect Apple, they don't want any competition they just want to monopolize everything. Google and it's partners need to take some sort of action against Apple to prevent things like that dumb trial from happening.
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