My only hope for Samsung is that they take a huge risk with the next phone, they have the tech to blow any phone away and I hope they set a new level far beyond other phones.
As we have seen Samsung are sitting on some very nice processor/gpu chips, add to that the whole flexible screen tech and other stuff we have yet to see.
They can bring it out when they like but as with most companies they give it to you in little stages, I mean look at the PS3 Xbox360, both have been around far too long, the new machines should have been out a year or so ago, the problem was/is us, we kept buying the machines, there was no reason for the companies to bring out new tech as we are happy to spend money on these ones, most firms will not move on if the old product is selling well.
Its kind of like this for our phones, why jump from say a 1mp camera to a 10mp when people will be happy with a 3mp, then the year later do a 5mp, if you jump to the extreme early on you soon run out of new things to help sell a product (Look at the Iphone3/3g/3gs and its little changes that were wow to so many and yet really were “are you kidding me my i8910 does that and more”)
Anyway point been Samsung can bring out a phone that will blow us all away, it would really screw other firms as it would force them to use tech they were dripping out to us, this is not something they want to do as it puts production costs up and it means they have to get creative, all these things cost a company a load of money.
If Samsung could afford to do this it would sort a lot of issues out, it would help show the world just how bad Apple really are, it would put an end to Samsung having to conform to Apple lawyers and turn it all around.
Maybe its just a silly thought but they can do this, it all comes down to cost, but I think the loss/maybe loss on the next tech would be worth it just to put them way ahead of the game.
Could you divide that text up in paragraphs to make it easier to read?
I thought it was divided into paragraphs.
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It's all up to Apple, ask them what is allowed..
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Apple are pathetic and i had a feeling they (would pay the judges off) win this case, mind you even though 1 billion is a serious amount of money to most to Samsung it's a drop in the ocean and if anything they will come out of this better as the hype surrounding their new flagship phone to replace the Galaxy S3 most probably next year will be huge and ive a feeling it will be a masterpiece.
Surely enough is enough! I cannot believe how corrupt the US Courts are.
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Surely enough is enough! I cannot believe how corrupt the US Courts are.
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It is not the court, but started in patent office that allowed all those bull**** patents to be registered and them the jury that has no idea about patents and yet decides about their validity.
Its been said already but look at a few facts.
America vs Korea
Case held in America, Held in California which is Apples home state....and the 12 random people? well at a guess its their home state=not a chance in hell.
There is a interview with one of the 12 and he even shows how fake it all was, he says that within the first day they all agreed that Apple was in the right, and yet a few lines later he says that they took the full amount of time given to look at the evidence and come to a decision=eh? you just said it was agreed on the 1st day?
Funny how over in Korea the case was 50/50 both pay up and both behave....state side Samsung please bend over while we shaft up.
Guys accept it! We lose the battle, we don't have any creativity, we are copying instead of innovating. Now is the time to say that I really regret buying this phone. Well I got an Xperia S so I'm still happy
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Guys accept it! We lose the battle, we don't have any creativity, we are copying instead of innovating. Now is the time to say that I really regret buying this phone. Well I got an Xperia S so I'm still happy
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Sony is not innovating either
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Guys accept it! We lose the battle, we don't have any creativity, we are copying instead of innovating. Now is the time to say that I really regret buying this phone. Well I got an Xperia S so I'm still happy
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accept what? apple will sue sony one day for the very same multi touch patent and then you will how poor it is
anyway this topic is nowhere related to s3....
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Sony is not innovating either
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You're wrong kid, in fact Google is experimenting Xperia S for AOSP. Read the news. Sony is "Quiet but Deadly"!
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You're wrong kid, in fact Google is experimenting Xperia S for AOSP. Read the news. Sony is "Quiet but Deadly"!
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You called that innovating?
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accept what? apple will sue sony one day for the very same multi touch patent and then you will how poor it is
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No, Sony will not be sued by apple for the very same multi touch patent, it's an Android feature. Google will be sued, this means all android 2.2 and up will be affected.
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No, Sony will not be sued by apple for the very same multi touch patent, it's an Android feature. Google will be sued, this means all android 2.2 and up will be affected.
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Then tell me why it didn't happen? Though its android feature with the likes of company like apple you don't have any surety for net getting sued.
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You called that innovating?
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Just watch and see kid. Just watch and see
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Then tell me why it didn't happen? Though its android feature with the likes of company like apple you don't have any surety for net getting sued.
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Because Sony designed the iphones
What's next for Samsung? I know consorting with chip manufacturers stopping giving chips to Apple, iPhone fails and Samsung stops selling phones in America.
Then Apple has personally screwed all Americans over and they will call for blood and Apple dies.
I think that's reasonable.
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What's next for Samsung? I hope finally a phone without a physical home button. They'll presumably stop copying iPhone after this, so there'll be no reason for that button.
Yeah wonder how long the deal is with them to sell them chips, just wonder if they will pass when deal runs out.
I dont think the US knows just how fu%&ed they will be if Android phones were pulled from their shops.
But I guess the deal is worth a load of money as around 30% of the iphone4s was made by Samsung.
After all this I would think Apple are not well liked in Asia now?
I know it will not happen but I would love to see Samsung bring out a big leap in tech for their phones and not be sold in US, might wake people up to what they are missing.
As for Sony, they will do their thing, they have some nice looking phones but they always seem like a year behind most others.
@OP ( didn't wanna quote your whole post), first, ps3 and Xbox360 are fine, I think next year is when they should introduce the new generation. Second, Samsung will be just fine. They already have hardware power for decades, they just need to work on their designs. I'm sure they will innovate and do very well, they are just getting started. It sucks but it's normal that Apple is coming this hard at Samsung cause Sammy is really a threat to Apple. This whole patent thing is bogus and gives too much power to Apple and no room to innovate for the other OEMs. This is why I don't respect Apple, they don't want any competition they just want to monopolize everything. Google and it's partners need to take some sort of action against Apple to prevent things like that dumb trial from happening.
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/go...e-attack-2011-04-22?link=MW_story_latest_news
massive attack to androd
u know the saying once ur on top everyone wants to knock u off.. But thanks for that great article.
Everybody suing everyone now days
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u know the saying once ur on top everyone wants to knock u off.. But thanks for that great article.
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yeah man thats all about it
anthonys2r said:
Everybody suing everyone now days
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apple, those whores always tend to do that.... the the main suers ..**** apple
I hope no such thing as shutting down Android happens else Ima bomb the apple building
Android is waaaaaaay better than apple OS, sorry I like saying this again n again lol
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This is old news, regarding Oracle. That article would make you think Android is about to crumble, and that is not the case. At least he points out that re-writing the code, slightly, would make this go away.
Google has way too much power/$ to not fix this for Android, which has exceeded their expectations wildly.
In short, do not fret. Apple just being scared, as they should be.
Just like Jobs said recently via an email that Android is tracking people and that they do not.... ignoring all the articles about apple tracking people lately.
EDIT, haha, just noticed he said Symbian would likely benefit (which is dead).... sad considering how much Nokia stock I own (frown face)
The iphone makes up 50% of Apples revenue stream now so Android is a massive threat to their business. Totally idiotic for a company or that size to have most of their eggs in one basket if you ask me.
Personally i think competition is good and keeps the market honest, but all this patent trolling that's going on is just ludicrous. It's no better than kids fighting over marbles in the playground.
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apple, those whores always tend to do that.... the the main suers ..**** apple
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This is not accurate.
All the big mobile companies sue each other in circles, it is not the fault of a single entity.
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The iphone makes up 50% of Apples revenue stream now so Android is a massive threat to their business. Totally idiotic for a company or that size to have most of their eggs in one basket if you ask me.
Personally i think competition is good and keeps the market honest, but all this patent trolling that's going on is just ludicrous. It's no better than kids fighting over marbles in the playground.
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This also is not really accurate.
How can you compare a hardware/software vendor to a software vendor?
When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
Google and Apple are entirely different beasts. Apple makes money when it sells its hardware, it includes the software "free" with its devices and it has always done this with any of its products.
Google makes software for multiple vendors, and makes zero hardware.
Apple has always been pretty sue-happy, moreso than other phone/computer manufacturers.
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its their way of trying to slow down growth of its competitors. like tripping your opponent in a 100 yard dash as hes about to pass you.
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When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
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Really? So more people buying Android smart phones and the market share slowly tilting to Android's favor is not a threat to the sales of the iPhone?
I guess Windows is not a threat to Apple since Microsoft doesn't make computers then, right?
I sue u
u sue me lol just keeps on going
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This also is not really accurate.
How can you compare a hardware/software vendor to a software vendor?
When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
Google and Apple are entirely different beasts. Apple makes money when it sells its hardware, it includes the software "free" with its devices and it has always done this with any of its products.
Google makes software for multiple vendors, and makes zero hardware.
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Isn't the nexus a Google device?
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i would like to add 1 small piece to this although apple are a hardwar/software vendor it does contract out to people like samsung , so this apple google is also apple samsung writ , android and samsung together is a bigger threat to apple and apple think by sueing (as most companys do and would do in the same situation) both samsung and google may slow them down or as is most likely with the release of all the new smartphones ie galaxy s 2 and new nexus phones will generate a feelling within buyers that apple sell a better product because others are copying , this is not a serious attempt to stop android but with the timing so close to may first release date for sgs2 is more of a marketing exercise , for instance when google lost a case recently they had to pay 5 million $ where as if they had payed for the licence out right may have cost them 50 million $ dont take these figures to seriously but you get the idea this is the way business works and will carry on working as has been said before apple will still buy from samsung google will still develop android licences will be paid for in one form or another and someone will use somebody elses idea to improve their own and tommorrow will be another day
Thank you for the information.
Erra said:
This also is not really accurate.
How can you compare a hardware/software vendor to a software vendor?
When google is able to claim it makes the hardware its software runs on, then you can start saying Android is a "threat" to apple.
Google and Apple are entirely different beasts. Apple makes money when it sells its hardware, it includes the software "free" with its devices and it has always done this with any of its products.
Google makes software for multiple vendors, and makes zero hardware.
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Really? So more people buying Android smart phones and the market share slowly tilting to Android's favor is not a threat to the sales of the iPhone?
I guess Windows is not a threat to Apple since Microsoft doesn't make computers then, right?
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Erra completely misses the point but shinkinrui saves the day by pointing that out for me. Nothing more to say really.
psiops said:
...but you get the idea this is the way business works and will carry on working...and someone will use somebody elses idea to improve their own and tomorrow will be another day
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Well put!
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Isn't the nexus a Google device?
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Sort of, it's powered by google as all android phones are, but it isn't MADE by google, it is made by HTC, and the Nexus S is made by Samsung. Google works with the companies closely for these phones, but the phones themselves are not manufactured by google, and I'd be willing to bet google doesn't design the phones and pic the internal components to them either so much, they probably have some influence, but I'd be surprised if they had complete control when it is the manufacturer who stands to make or lose money on the phone based on sales.
Android, and every other touchscreen OS, (besides iOS) you might as well say goodbye to...
Apple now has the power to destroy Android, Windows Phone, and any other iOS Touchscreen Competitor... Steve Jobs wins this round (for now anyways...)
How long before Apple has the S3 Pulled? This is the top iPhone competitor besides the DROID RAZR Series, with the S3 far ahead...
Check this out:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
This could spell the end for Android and this phone, and I will not be a happy camper if I can't upgrade because of Apple... I will throw a major tantrum!
Google, act & appeal fast and fix this mess!!!!
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I am not saying this will happen, but is quite possible if the government doesn't block Apple in their tracks from doing so... (I think once Google Appeals, these parents will be made standard for touchscreens...)
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Android, and every other touchscreen OS, (besides iOS) you might as well say goodbye to...
Apple now has the power to destroy Android, Windows Phone, and any other iOS Touchscreen Competitor... Steve Jobs wins this round (for now anyways...)
How long before Apple has the S3 Pulled? This is the top iPhone competitor besides the DROID RAZR Series, with the S3 far ahead...
Check this out:
http://www.acsyndicate.net/apple-aw...ts-the-possible-end-of-android-as-we-know-it/
This could spell the end for Android and this phone, and I will not be a happy camper if I can't upgrade because of Apple... I will throw a major tantrum!
Google, act & appeal fast and fix this mess!!!!
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If this ever happens i would rather go back to a flip phone or have none at all. I would never give apple any of my money.
I refuse to get an Apple device, but this won't effect available devices in stock or on eBay, so good Android devices will be very rare if this goes the way Apple wants... I'll tell you one thing, eBay prices for Android Devices will go sky high.... (used or not...)
Edit: I miss flip phones anyways, so I'll go old school if I have to...
i have an ipad, and this makes me want to smash it. Apple, you do not own the world, you were not the first to create a "list" on an electronic device. If your so afraid of Samsung, then just build a darn phone with a bigger screen, i wont buy it, but tons of other people would. Fair competition is good for business, it keeps ingenuity alive and keeps engineers pushing the limits of what can be done. Competition is THE ONLY REASON we have the superphones we have now. If apple owns all the rights to make anything that even resembles a smartphone, we will have the iphone 4s renamed and sold as a new product for the next decade.
Whoever the judge is that granted that patent, is an idiot.
it will never happen. Nothing to add.
Well some of what this says they currently have rights to like list view is bs because before the first iPhone was released I was able to use list view on Windows mobile for years. So unless I've miss read, something isn't right or maybe my aging memory is wrong.
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it will never happen. Nothing to add.
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I know you said nothing to add, but my point is Apple had been on a wining streak, so hopefully the government fixes this and makes these touch screen parents standard...
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it will never happen. Nothing to add.
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I have an ipad, and this makes me want to smash it.
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Do a factory reset, sell it, buy a Galaxy Tab, then shove it in your Apple Store representatives face showing features that the iPad doesn't have... No reason to smash something worth hundreds, (although the company who makes it is pure evil...) But I agree with what you were saying completely...
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Whoever the judge is that granted that patent, is an idiot.
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I wanted to say that in my article, but couldn't so I said the judge made a "very poor decision".
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Do a factory reset, sell it, buy a Galaxy Tab, then shove it in your Apple Store representatives face showing features that the iPad doesn't have... No reason to smash something worth hundreds, (although the company who makes it is pure evil...) But I agree with what you were saying completely...
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I was actually thinking of doing this over the past few weeks, i had an android tablet a few years ago, but the number and quality of apps was underwhelming, how is it now?
tjb433 said:
I was actually thinking of doing this over the past few weeks, i had an android tablet a few years ago, but the number and quality of apps was underwhelming, how is it now?
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I have the HTC EVO View, while I am not a fan of HTC, nor the EVO Series, I don't regret the purchase... Now there is wayyy more support for tablets and specialized tablet UIs.... Now just make sure you get a high end one that will be upgraded to Jelly Bean... (It's not worth getting one on a data contract, as you can tether from your phone to your tablet...)
Note: The EVO View nor HTC Flyer will NOT Get ICS nor JB so don't even bother...
This is utterly ridiculous google needs to stop sitting on their hands and be more aggressive.
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This is utterly ridiculous google needs to stop sitting on their hands and be more aggressive.
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You couldn't have put it any better... This happened around the 17th of this month... and we (the public) have yet to hear of any response from Google...
This is for USA only other countries won't tolerate this bs. Only in the USA. Where they're are so proud of apple for outsourcing jobs that Americans badly need smucks.
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Android is here to stay. Google and samsung have some pretty good lawyers too. It's total BS that this kinda stuff even goes on. The only people getting rich on this are the lawyers. If they were smart, they'd sit across from each other at a conference table and make a truce and move on.
Now that Jobs is dead, it's just a matter of time before Apple slips into irrelevance. Nobody there has the passion he had about his company, and nobody is gonna defend it like he did.
That 40 billion they have will be squandered away on bogus patent law suits. Money that could have been spent on more cutting edge development. Everybody knows that patents are crap. Your better off not even applying for a patent and get the thing to market first. By the time they figure out what you did, you come up with something new. A patent application is an invitation and a headstart for everybody else to steal your idea. The company thats ahead of the development curve, and gets it to market fast and furious, makes the money.
Boo hoo...they stole my idea:crying:
Apple is a joke. This is what happens when they feel threaten by a competitor. I will give it to Apple the iPhone was a brake through, but since then Android came out and is user friendly with developers willing to make the devices better and faster more customizable. Making the Android OS just better period. Apple needs to realize there are other players in this game so step up as Android HAS. They know Android IS the future and their scared they will be left behind. Lol I laugh a Apple, I'm going to tell them like I do any young kid with a bad attitude grow up.
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I wanted to say that in my article, but couldn't so I said the judge made a "very poor decision".
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The court should get sued for taking away our right to choose what we want to purchase. I will rather NOT have a phone or an old crappy phone than own a crapple device. I will order my phones through China or Japanese manufactures. but owning a crappy device I will not!
Good read here as well arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/if-android-is-a-stolen-product-then-so-was-the-iphone/
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Oh and just to add a good question shouldn't someone sue Apple for using someone else's technology like LCD, LED screens, let them have the right to the patents a lot it would do them with a device with no screen.
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Apple sued Sammy: Then G-Nex was banned(later appealed). Then another sue to potentially kill android.
But Apple's A5X processor is made by Samsung.
So Apple should be careful otherwise Sammy could kill all i devices.
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Apple sued Sammy: Then G-Nex was banned(later appealed). Then another sue to potentially kill android.
But Apple's A5X processor is made by Samsung.
So Apple should be careful otherwise Sammy could kill all i devices.
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Samsung will destroy apple, lawsuits or not. Open sources/ freedom always comes out on top. Its this difference that leaves the first generation iPhones still running iOS 3 and the original galaxy s with the latest os jelly bean.
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it's a little more complicated than that. while sammy makes the chips in the current crop of iDevices, They would really not like to lose all that apple business (think of all the millions of samsung parts sold to apple. samsung makes a LOT of money from apple products, and it would be a huge hit to their business if that stopped.
I think apple may be moving away from samsung for the next gen devices anyway, so it may not even matter.
Actually iPad is a5x, made by Sammy, and next iPhone 5 will most likely have the same processor.
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So Apple should be careful otherwise Sammy could kill all i devices.
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Sorry airfluip but there's no way that happens. Sammy makes money off of those chips they sell to Apple. If Sammy decides not to give Apple the chips they would be in breach of contract. Lots of money lost either way. Let's say that Sammy decides not to renew the contract. Well you can bet there are plenty of other chip manufacturers out there who would love the cash from that contract. Did I mention money? It's the bottom line when concerning business. Consumers may have brand loyalty but companies do not.
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You're also not accurate.
Regarding the Retina screen that Sammy manufactures for the idevices, Sammy's the only one in the world that was up for the specifications Apple required, so if Sammy does decide to swallow this pill, Apple really is FCKed. However, it won't happen - the money is too good to let go, Apple pays good money.
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I know I might have been a bit wrong, but really. The company that's holding you up on your feet, and you're hitting it on the head? (Apple sue Sammy)
itzik,
I didn't realize Sammi was also making the display. I was talking about the chipsets. If Apple was really worried about it they would of started to produce their own by now. And they just won there lawsuit against Sammi:
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08/24/jury-reaches-verdict-in-apple-vs-samsung-case/
I heard Apple won the suit.
A simple fact is that only in the US did Apple win that, which raises the possibility that pure patriotism got into considerations. But Sammy is a monster company and Google's Motorola has some real strong suits against Apple including Apple's star - Siri, which was copied from Moto. On the long run, Google's way will win.
And by the way, Apple doesn't have the tools to even get started on making displays. They are completely dependent on Sammy with current specification.
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And by the way, Apple doesn't have the tools to even get started on making displays. They are completely dependent on Sammy with current specification.
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I'd say 10 billion is cash reserves is all the "tools" that they would need. That's just there liquid cash pile. No company in the world even comes close.
http://techcrunch.com/2012/04/24/apple-q2-earnings-apple-now-has-over-110-billion-in-cash-reserves/
Personally...
... I would sooner go back to a motorolla RAZR V3 before buying/accepting an iPhone, so they can pull a few hundred off of their "damages" from me.
I heard/read apple is looking at different manufacturers to make their A6 chip for their future phones. So them suing Sammy might be because they are looking to cut all ties and out source elsewhere.
Either way, Android is here to stay.
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So basically, Samsung is doomed in the android market for now.
I hope Gnex 2 is by Motorola 'Mobility'
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http://www.macrumors.com/2012/03/13/samsung-sole-supplier-for-retina-display-in-new-ipad/
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So basically, Samsung is doomed in the android market for now.
I hope Gnex 2 is by Motorola 'Mobility'
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No not necessarily. Appeals will be filed extensions will be filed to allow them to use the current designs. I have a feeling the next lineup of nexus phones will be from sony, lg, motorola and samsung. However you will not see a Gnex from Motorola the Galaxy line is licensed by Samsung.
yeah you know what I mean.
Next Google "flagship" phone.
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I hope Gnex 2 is by Motorola 'Mobility'
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Motorola and their lock bootloaders? booooo lol
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They have locked bootloaders?
But are they still custom flashable?
Because it'll be AOSP not Motoblur.
But then again G-Nex does have download mode.
Motorola up until recently with the Photon Q has locked the boot loaders.
A Nexus flagship phone has to be unlocked so if Moto wants to be part of the group they need to be prepared to unlock the bootloader out of the gate.
They only won in the US. Samsung is Far too diverse of a company...the apple $ is super nice don't get me wrong but they were a giant before apple and will be more so after. Besides Motorola/Google are reported to be going after apple for knowingly using Moto's wireless connectivity technology(or something like that)without permission or paying royalties and apple refuses to negotiate.... if I understand it correctly All apple devices with wireless connectivity fall under 6 or 7 patent violations...1billion is chump change compared to them apples.
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Well I figured since this is a Samsung phone forum I could post this here... Anyways mod delete if you feel like...
My point is I am not surprised about the verdict today at all...
Let's face it.. this doesn't make sense to me.. Apple is a huge American company, Samsung is from Korea.. so for a case so big shouldn't it happen in some international country or something? And plus guess what... the jury is 9 American citizens. Seriously? They probably have some iStuffs, their wives,husbands,kid,friends probably do.. so which side do you think they would be on?
Anyways this is what I think, and why I am not surprised Apple won on all counts..
What do you think?
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Hopefully Google/Motorola will avenge Samsung's US lost to crApple.
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Well I figured since this is a Samsung phone forum I could post this here... Anyways mod delete if you feel like...
My point is I am not surprised about the verdict today at all...
Let's face it.. this doesn't make sense to me.. Apple is a huge American company, Samsung is from Korea.. so for a case so big shouldn't it happen in some international country or something? And plus guess what... the jury is 9 American citizens. Seriously? They probably have some iStuffs, their wives,husbands,kid,friends probably do.. so which side do you think they would be on?
Anyways this is what I think, and why I am not surprised Apple won on all counts..
What do you think?
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Oh I knew it was gonna turn out like this. About 75% of the population here see a smartphone and label it a iPhone, they see a tablet and label it a iPad. Who did you think the American public was going to side with. That's the power of advertisement Apple controls over all smartphones & tablets. When you are able to replace the generic name of a product with your brand name for that same product and have the whole population calling it that way you are in control. (Q-tip, Vaseline, Band-Aid, ChapStick, Windex, iPod, etc.)
Really when you think about it, the ruling isn't surprising at all. Apple wants to get rid if their competitors and lawsuits are just one way to do it. In my mind, a really cheap and almost disgraceful way to do it, but, that's politics for you! No one remembers Tucker (old car company) but i was wiped out by the Detroit 3 through a lawsuit as well. Only 50 cars were ever produced because of it.
I hate politics, but this is how things go down... Hopefully, up here in Canada we don't have repercussions from the American trial, but who knows right? All three of my phones have been Samsung, and I want my fourth to be one as well, even if I have to buy international.
Apple... Great products, however they need to stop suing about everything. But that's politics, and I hate them.
Samsung... Best of luck to you. I want another great phone... Maybe make it in the shape of a circle so Apple can't sue about the shape (how can you patent a shape anyway!? I might as well patent the sphere and sue all the ball makers in the world. )
May the force be with you Sammy
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I'm not surprise with the verdict. I expected crApple to win, not because of the patent infringement claims, but due to their huge advantages. Basically, Samsung was the underdog in this case. Keep in mind that crApple's headquarter is just a mere 10 miles away from the courthouse and the jurors were picked from the heart of Silicon Valley, where Steve Jobs was from.
It could be that they let Apple win because Apple's a really big company that supports the American Economy
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It could be that they let Apple win because Apple's a really big company that supports the American Economy
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Rigggghhht...
All those 'Designed in California, Made in China' fine print is really that hard to understand... it says California in there so it must be good for America?
Not to mention they are really good at dodging local/state/federal taxes. They have a good army of lawyers doing just that outside of the litigation ones that fought Samsung.
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Rigggghhht...
All those 'Made in China' print must be missed on all their products.
Not to mention they are really good at dodging local/state/federal taxes.
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[BREAKING NEWS] Apple files infringement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.......
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[BREAKING NEWS] Apple files infringement suit against God for creating a fruit based off their logo.......
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The interesting part about this situation is that Samsung makes apple's proccessors... I wonder if this will piss Samsung off enough to call it quits... Apple is Samsung's number one customer, so I doubt they will be able to cut ties without losing a major amount of income
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What goes around comes around.. Apple will get theirs soon enough.
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Google needs to step up and revenge for Samsung. Apple is going after all android phones manufacture after this. Even Nexus lineup.
Oh yeah. F##k Apple. I will never buy their products again. Period.
I hope that google does step up and do something about this. Most likely their probably not wich upsets me to see crApple winning.
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I was kind of surprised since the jury got to use some of the Samsung devices to compare. Usually when I'm around someone who is messing with their iPhlop I let them mess around with my phone and 90% of the time am asked if I have any for sale.
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Its sad really. Do you see Bentley and Mercedes suing Hyundai for making their cars look like ripoffs? Designer clothes stores suing old navy for clothes that look exactly the same? A third grader for drawing a rounded rectangle??
I just couldn't help at Tim cook's release to his employees about how they were reluctant to sue and how they want to protect innovation for all. Bunch of goddamn money hungry elitist assholes. If they really cared about innovation and technology they would be a little more concerned with moving the whole segment forward, not hoarding everything to themselves.
That being said, some things Samsung did really are ridiculous copies (the charger cube for our phone looks exactly like the iPhones...)...and they should have partially lost.
They won't make it very long after people don't think their **** is so hot anymore and they burn all their cash on stupid lawsuits...watch out in the near future for a bombed product upgrade...could come as early as the iPhone 5 I bet.
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I don't see how Apple won in a business sense.. Samsung had already established themselves as the number one smartphone manufacturer in the world by focusing on territory. Now they can focus more on design. It was a billion dollar gamble that paid of nicely. They don't need to do anything but but put out a bunch of vanilla Android devices with top of the line hardware and a physical design that doesn't look like an iPhone. There are many possibilities. This was a win for Samsung and us since we will get less iOS look and feel and better functionality.
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The fact and the matter is... apple only sues Samsung because it s scared of how Samsung has become #1 and wants to destroy it...
Like I don't think Samsung is the maker of phone with rectangle and round corners, how come apple only sues Samsung? That's cause Samsung is the most successful one
My only hope is for Motorola/Google wins against Apple
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As much as I love android I do remember shopping for a phone and picking up the galaxy s fascinate and thinking to myself "wow this really looks like an iphone".. Samsung really should have done something to better differentiate the 2 phones.. However I never for one second got it confused with an iphone.. I love Samsung phones but some of their phones did look like blatant copies.. I agree that a rectangle should not be patented but i also think that Apple has a right to not have their products copied so closely... That is why they won their case..
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As much as I love android I do remember shipping for a phone and picking up the galaxy s fascinate and thinking to myself "wow this really looks like an iphone".. Samsung really should have done something to better differentiate the 2 phones.. However I never for one second got it confused with an iphone.. I love Samsung phones but some of their phones did look like blatant copies.. I agree that a rectangle should not be patented but i also think that Apple has a right to not have their products copied so closely... That is why they won their case..
I'll probably get flamed for this post lol but its my opinion and I ain't afraid of it
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They should re try the case with better court circumstances, Americans don't know apple is bolting their opportunities to the floor with dead bolts using iPhone and iPad ios closed source software.
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If nothing else... It may be end of touchwiz. Time for Samsung to ship cm roms standard.
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http://www.engadget.com/2012/08/31/apple-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-galaxy-note-patent-lawsuit/
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This is ridiculous. Even my don't know anything apple friends know my phone is in no way similar to the iPhone.
Urgh.
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Well apple did invent "the power button" so no one is safe.
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LOL this is getting ridiculous.
LoL apple is going nuts .
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So those f**kers at apple are at it again huh.? It seems like they are not going stop until they wipe android off of the planet. Also how is the S3 similar to the iphone.?
I like Galaxy products though I'm not a big fan of Samsung... But now I hate Apple...
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So those f**kers at apple are at it again huh.? It seems like they are not going stop until they wipe android off of the planet. Also how is the S3 similar to the iphone.?
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I wonder if eve was alive would she have sued apple ?
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So those f**kers at apple are at it again huh.? It seems like they are not going stop until they wipe android off of the planet. Also how is the S3 similar to the iphone.?
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Well as far as I know, it's only the four utility patents that are in question here. I thought universal search was fixed with 4.0 though? I'm pretty sure all of those problems are fixed with 4.1.
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Well as far as I know, it's only the four utility patents that are in question here. I thought universal search was fixed with 4.0 though? I'm pretty sure all of those problems are fixed with 4.1.
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They should be but seriously, the patents that people can have nowadays are utter ****. "We got a patent on the bounce back from a list". In a movie if someone said that, the audience would be like "Wtf..." but in real life I guess thats fine. A patent on clicking on Email and able to call? Its the most mind boggling retarded thing and of course people think its fine.
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A patent on clicking on Email and able to call? Its the most mind boggling retarded thing and of course people think its fine.
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agreed. blackberry had that feature too...don't remember apple trying to sue them.
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agreed. blackberry had that feature too...don't remember apple trying to sue them.
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Unified search is a ridiculous one too. Basically just being able to find a search item locally as well as from the web. They've already sued to block the SGS3 with this.
Google had this feature with Google Desktop in 2004- Apple filed after it existed and got the patent for it in 2011.
This whole thing stinks so bad- basically if everyone did what Apple is doing, you can just look around at ANY good idea in any product made by anyone, do a quick sketch up of the idea and apply for a patent- even though you didn't do JACK but look around and see something someone else made and come up with your own version of it. If you're rewarded the patent, you can then sue the person who actually came up with the idea before you did and take their idea! You just have to be first to file for the patent.
This really sucks for innovation, because before, A company might come out with something like Google Desktop and release it without a thought that someone else would patent just the basic idea right out from under them and eventually take them to court and sue them based on their own innovation! But now, that's exactly the kind of crap any company is going to have to consider before it can release new ideas. And heaven forbid you're a startup without armies of patent lawyers and billions to throw around protecting yourself from patent-troll based lawsuits.
Thanks a lot Apple. A-holes.
I still sctratch my head as to why Samsung still supllies parts to Apple for their iPhone. Sure it might be a different division within Samsung but it still carries the Samasung name.
Just goes to show you as long as you pay us we will always do business with you no matter how you treat us. Man, how money talks.....
I've always been a fan of apple computers
Will stop supporting them in that vein now too, what a desperate underhanded company...
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I blame our judicial system more than I do apple. Look at what the other courts are doing with these lawsuits in other countries. They seem to have common sense.
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I still sctratch my head as to why Samsung still supllies parts to Apple for their iPhone. Sure it might be a different division within Samsung but it still carries the Samasung name.
Just goes to show you as long as you pay us we will always do business with you no matter how you treat us. Man, how money talks.....
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Exactly! Further more why is Google even making apps for IOS? It's as obvious as a huge zit on your nose that this about android more than it is Samsung. If HTC was the leading android OEM it would be them in court instead.
What would happen to apple if Samsung and Google stopped supporting them? They're already lagging behind in innovation. The iphone 5 is going to be a joke. It's clear apple is trying to kill both of them but they are acting just like the general public. Support apple no matter what. Smh
ah just posted this too didn't see your post. I hope the iPhone fails I've got a Mac but I don't think ill every buy a apple product again because of all this.
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Scum sucking blow holes
I don't know if it would do any good but maybe we should start a potetion to tell apple they are losing customers because of there pour behavior.
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