Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.
Mafiatounes said:
Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.
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the same ordeal with the SGS3, so might as well get the 32GB
I believe that it is possible but only if you root your tablet. I am not positive on this so wait for someone else to verify what I am saying. However it seems that the difference between 16gb and 32gb is only $50 and that ain't bad in my opinion.
I have heard it's not possible with ICS. I hope I'm wrong.
There is no option to move apps to the SD card anymore.
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It's one of tablets thing.
Even with ICS you can't do that. Form side it better for fast and safe replacing of sdcards.
I have the note 5.3 with it I can add apps to the sdcard.
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How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?
Entropy512 said:
How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?
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Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.
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Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.
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Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...
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Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...
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No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.
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No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.
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There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.
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There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.
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I know that since ICS the memory layout has changed, in previous (GB) devices you had multiple partitions on the internal SD now this is gone and so is apps (data) to SD.
I'm not so sure about the term "broken apps" because in that case it means all apps are broken cause of all my 100 apps and games there is not a single one that can allocate data anywhere except internal sd. Google messed with this since ICS, it isn't a problem on the Galaxy Nexus or One X because they don't have memory expansion.
After thinking about getting the 32GB with a unknown wait time, i decided to for the 16GB Wifi/3G version i will skip Sygic on the Note since i don't see myself with a tablet on the windshield driving.
This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.
demandarin said:
This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.
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Yes, there is a way. Use Apps 2 SD and GL to SD apps. I moved a lot of the huge downloads for my games using those apps.
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this is one advantage ios has over android. you can actually download the games on your computers and sync later. or you can sync, delete and reinstall later without having to redownload everything (unless there's an update). you can kinda do this in android, but it's not as automated.
Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...
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Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...
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Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.
Apps to Extsd
Use Root Explorer The paid version, works very well.
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Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.
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Could you guide me on how to do this? I got the 16gb note and a 32gb microSD card plugged in.
Oh and another note: how exactly does the storage work on this thing?
I hear all this about internal storage, internal SD and then the external SD (which I assume is the SD card I plugged in myself.
Thanks
Edit: this was supposed to quote the guy I quoted, quoted. Isn't used to this application
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Tried this app. Every. APk got a *FAILED INSUFFICIENT STORAGE" error. I have plenty of available space. Do I need to set up and ext4 for it to work?
Thanks.
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Dumped my buggy not impressive Galaxy s 4g today> (love Costcos 3 months policy) and picked up G2x. So far extremally impressed!
One question is the Costco phone guy handed my the 16gig micro SD card from the Galaxy as he said he had extras from dead phones. I said THANK YOU! and installed. However when using AppstoSd program it only see's internal mem, and Internal SD 5gs. It does not see or give option to move to my 16g Sd card?
My HD2 and Samsung worked great with AppstoSD. Am I missing something? I mean I guess the 1.2gig and 5gigs of internal is enough. But I like to also use the SD card for programs to not overload internal memory.
I have not rooted yet, will do that so I can get my Titanium backup working to see it I can do it with that.
Thanks!
iceshark said:
Dumped my buggy not impressive Galaxy s 4g today> (love Costcos 3 months policy) and picked up G2x. So far extremally impressed!
One question is the Costco phone guy handed my the 16gig micro SD card from the Galaxy as he said he had extras from dead phones. I said THANK YOU! and installed. However when using AppstoSd program it only see's internal mem, and Internal SD 5gs. It does not see or give option to move to my 16g Sd card?
My HD2 and Samsung worked great with AppstoSD. Am I missing something? I mean I guess the 1.2gig and 5gigs of internal is enough. But I like to also use the SD card for programs to not overload internal memory.
I have not rooted yet, will do that so I can get my Titanium backup working to see it I can do it with that.
Thanks!
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Can't be done, discussed endlessly in the corresponding O2x thread...
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Can't be done, discussed endlessly in the corresponding O2x thread...
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Been all over that thread. This issue and the "phantom AT&T bands are two big issues on this device. However, there may be some hope at the CM end - not this item in the latest CM7 changelog"
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Change I6beb0077: Allow multiple shareable SD Cards by using getShareableVolumes() to get all the volumes that are shareable and allowing sharing/unsharing for all of them rather than just the hardcoded getExternalStorage calls.
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First thank you for responding. I am not a newbie but have been rooting and testing my Hd2's for past year. My first non HTC phone in awhile was the vibrant s4g, it had its own problems with very low internal memory.
So I was excited this phone had 8 gigs plus now my 16 gig card. I have not been on these forums so I did not know it was a known issue Sorry.
So to clarify, there is no workaroud? But can I not just use root explorer and move files to the SD card? I understand apps to sd wont do it automaticly. But I plan to put my music and movies at least on SD... What would even be the use of the manufacturer putting SD slot on phone if you could not use it?
Ira that is what I do. SD card = sdcard/external_SD
Or something to that effect. I plan to keep my apps2sd on internal and SD for straight storage and backups.
From the sound of it, the clockwork mod can access the microsd so at least backups will be off the device.
-sent from my LG 2Gx
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First thank you for responding. I am not a newbie but have been rooting and testing my Hd2's for past year. My first non HTC phone in awhile was the vibrant s4g, it had its own problems with very low internal memory.
So I was excited this phone had 8 gigs plus now my 16 gig card. I have not been on these forums so I did not know it was a known issue Sorry.
So to clarify, there is no workaroud? But can I not just use root explorer and move files to the SD card? I understand apps to sd wont do it automaticly. But I plan to put my music and movies at least on SD... What would even be the use of the manufacturer putting SD slot on phone if you could not use it?
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What I have been doing is the basic copy and paste. I copy the app or video ect. from the sd card and paste it on the ext/sd card. If there is a faster oor easier way please let me know. I am rooted and this is the first phone I ever had with this kind of a set up with the sd card. I prefer the other way much better ala Nexus One.
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Ira that is what I do. SD card = sdcard/external_SD
Or something to that effect. I plan to keep my apps2sd on internal and SD for straight storage and backups.
From the sound of it, the clockwork mod can access the microsd so at least backups will be off the device.
-sent from my LG 2Gx
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That is correct. In a file manager etc. you can locate your SD Card by going to the ExternalSD folder (path: SD Card/ExternalSD). The "SD Card" is actually the internal memory, and the "External SD" is the actual SD Card. When you plug your phone into a PC two different drives come up, one for the internal and one for the SD Card. From what I know you can't put apps on your actual SD Card. However music, pics, etc. all work just fine. I have all my music on my SD Card and everything else on the internal.
P.S. When opening the internal memory in a PC it will still have an ExternalSD folder, but it will be empty. I would advise not deleting it.
There's something like 1.5GB just for apps. What the heck are you doing to "overload" it??
cyberchuck9000 said:
There's something like 1.5GB just for apps. What the heck are you doing to "overload" it??
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GPS maps will easily overload the internal SD card. If they let the map location be set, that would fix it, but most do not (yet).
Hi
Got a Samsung Galaxy i9000 S. I have a 32 Gb memory card. Is it a good idea to save Apps to it? I realise that if something happens to the card I've lost my Apps. However, I have had Smartphones with far less than the 16 Mb flash memory I've got now (I think that's it?) and saving too many programmes and Apps to the internal memory caused the phone to freeze. Since I have 32Gb of memory with nothing else but, songs I thought it may be a good idea. Is that OK?
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BrianGM said:
Hi
Got a Samsung Galaxy i9000 S. I have a 32 Gb memory card. Is it a good idea to save Apps to it? I realise that if something happens to the card I've lost my Apps. However, I have had Smartphones with far less than the 16 Mb flash memory I've got now (I think that's it?) and saving too many programmes and Apps to the internal memory caused the phone to freeze. Since I have 32Gb of memory with nothing else but, songs I thought it may be a good idea. Is that OK?
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If you have sufficient free space on your Internal Memory just leave it be. I would only start thinking of Apps to SD solutions if you are running out of space and really need more.
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If you have sufficient free space on your Internal Memory just leave it be. I would only start thinking of Apps to SD solutions if you are running out of space and really need more.
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yap,,i would thinking of app2sd or a2sd darktremore maybe,,(if internal space like hell)
I'm using a DroidX. What is the suggested ratio for free space to used storage? Should more free space be available on the phone's memory?
Should all apps be moved to card?
Thanks for your time.
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I always like to keep some space free on the SD card for making backups and stuff, but that's partly because I switch ROM's quite a bit, so I need to make backups rather a lot.
The Droid X has a decent amount of internal storage, more than the Desire S, anyway. You'd probably be OK keeping the apps on the phone's internal storage, but if you have a good sized SD card (16gb +, I'd say), I'd probably move all the apps to the SD card.
I always try to keep at least 10% storage free, so if I'm away anywhere and want to take a bunch of pictures or HD videos, I'll know I have enough space.
I hope I've helped!
its better to move all your Apps If you have class 4/6/10 sd card then there will no performance issues and your internal memory will use less memory. try have atleast 50-200mb free of your internal memory for good performance..
Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good
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Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good
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See post #88 >http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...ablet-otas-t2847116/post55083932#post55083932
john09121 said:
Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good
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If you decide to buy, I would recommend the 32GB. I find myself shuffling games between the SD card and internal storage.
Having said that, if you plan to play tegra games be aware that the tablet still loses charge when plugged in to an outlet. Nvidia has not acknowledged this yet.
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Hello all.
Has anyone used link2sd with the shield tablet and if so does it work and also is it worth getting the 16gb version or just wait for the 32gb, I was looking forward to buying the 32gb today but then found out it has been put back till the 30/09/14:crying: and has anyone used a scandisk 128gb ultra class 10 with the tablet and are they any good
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Yep I used it, and found that it worked. But, I did find that trying to flash updates that clobber root make for a stressful experience when trying to set up the tablet again.
The app puts a config file on your internal sdcard that basically makes the user partition invisible to the tablet until you get the external sdcard relinked again. Then all your apps show up again.
With the baked in solution NVidia offers, you can use the external sdcard for other stuff. With link2sd, your sdcard is your internal card.
I wouldn't mind trying foldermount to see if that differs in features and reliability.
Foldermount is my preference used both.
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Yep I used it, and found that it worked. But, I did find that trying to flash updates that clobber root make for a stressful experience when trying to set up the tablet again.
The app puts a config file on your internal sdcard that basically makes the user partition invisible to the tablet until you get the external sdcard relinked again. Then all your apps show up again.
With the baked in solution NVidia offers, you can use the external sdcard for other stuff. With link2sd, your sdcard is your internal card.
I wouldn't mind trying foldermount to see if that differs in features and reliability.
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Interesting. I have the plus version of both, but have used link2sd as it seems to have more scope of files. I don't really want my 64gb card in 2 partitions though. You think the stock method is the best? What do you then use folder mount for
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Interesting. I have the plus version of both, but have used link2sd as it seems to have more scope of files. I don't really want my 64gb card in 2 partitions though. You think the stock method is the best? What do you then use folder mount for
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Phew, this turned out to be a long post (sorry about that).
Regarding the question about splitting your SD card
If you only want to use your 64gb card specifically as the symlinked device SSD, then you only need to put a small NTFS (from memory) partition as the first partition.
Again, it was a while ago, but I believe it only needs to be 10mb or something miniscule. link2sd then treats that as the "windows/mtp/ptp" directory, and the second partition with the remaining size formatted to EXT4 (again, read the docs: the file system type is explicitly stated) is the symlinked SSD.
Regarding your question about stock method/foldermount
I've been upgraded to an LTE 32GB, so I don't need to use this solution any more. I found that most games with a huge DLC bundle (Anomaly 2/Defenders, Sine Mora) allow you to offload the obb file to the ext sdcard anyhow.
The only advantage that could be worth investigating would be whether implementing link2sd or foldermount would allow you to continue to use the symlinked sdcard when you connect it to a PC. I seem to remember that when I did that with the stock solution, there was a caveat that some apps would stop working correctly because windows would steal the sdcard mountpoint for itself, thereby rendering the apps offloaded to the sdcard unavailable.
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I would not bother unless you have a lot of large games, or heaps of local music or videos stored on your device.
So what do i do to make more than 500mb of free space available on my internal SD again, androids file move system?
Thanks for asking he write up
There have been several posts recently on various threads suggesting making partitions on the SD card. Question: What is the purpose of this and what are the benefits?
At present, I'm running CM11 with few, if any, problems. Am currently only using about 1 GB of space on my SD card. I have 55 apps installed.
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Well, apps and games are different. Games (and I play just a small few of the very many available) take up much more space. The other Galaxy S devices have only 512Mb flash, while ours has 1G. The problem is the other Galaxy S devices also have an internal SD card, where as SGS4G only has external SD card. Considering the fact that SDXC (SD cards capable of >=64GB) is supported (and I tested it the other day), we can move partitions like the data partition to the SD card.
The current used space on your SD card is expected to be low. Check the internal storage used on your phone.
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Well, apps and games are different. Games (and I play just a small few of the very many available) take up much more space. The other Galaxy S devices have only 512Mb flash, while ours has 1G. The problem is the other Galaxy S devices also have an internal SD card, where as SGS4G only has external SD card. Considering the fact that SDXC (SD cards capable of >=64GB) is supported (and I tested it the other day), we can move partitions like the data partition to the SD card.
The current used space on your SD card is expected to be low. Check the internal storage used on your phone.
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Depending on usage, I generally have about 150-160 mb of free space in internal memory. If I make a partition, what should I push to it and should I expect increases in speed and/or performance?
Thanks.
DickyG said:
Depending on usage, I generally have about 150-160 mb of free space in internal memory.
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That's about what I expected.
DickyG said:
If I make a partition, what should I push to it and should I expect increases in speed and/or performance?
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Well, first of all, both the kernel and the android system image would need some changes made to support moving the data partition from the internal storage to the sdcard.
I think @FBis251 made a test image and reported that it might not have been as fast as he thought it would have been.
Many people have reported success with Link2SD app, and here is a link to one by @Rebel_X.
bhundven said:
That's about what I expected.
Well, first of all, both the kernel and the android system image would need some changes made to support moving the data partition from the internal storage to the sdcard.
I think @FBis251 made a test image and reported that it might not have been as fast as he thought it would have been.
Many people have reported success with Link2SD app, and here is a link to one by @Rebel_X.
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Good input.....thanks. Probably not going to create one since I'm satisfied with my phone's performance. If it ain't broke....