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I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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i had 1.02gb before installing any apps. with all my apps i think i got 940mb left but u can do apps2sd if the app supports it lol some wont let me put it on my sd card but some will.
.93gb from the first time I got it..
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i thought there would be more internal memory but i guess not, but still 940mb left is still more the enough for me. plus some big apps can be moved to the sd card.
Ohh okay thank you guys, then thats way better than than the slide, I only get 135mb when I first got it can barely fit all the apps I wanted lol this phone is sure to be mine soon
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I went through all my apps installed and preloaded. Went under the application section and selected every app that was moveable. Went from under 1GB to about 1.2GB. Give or take a bit. Either way still a lot and will be TONS more once we figure out how to remove the bloatware crap. (amazon, twitter, demo video, games, yahoo, you get the point)
s10shane said:
i had 1.02gb before installing any apps. with all my apps i think i got 940mb left but u can do apps2sd if the app supports it lol some wont let me put it on my sd card but some will.
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This is about what anyone should expect available from the factory. It is supposed to have 4GB of internal memory, but it appears that the MT4G has the same hidden NAND partition as the G1.
Fortunately enough, it does come with a class 4 8Gig card though
andrewiz2kewl said:
I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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It's the same as the G2. Their story is they reserve space for Gingerbread, which is horse**** - no Android update is 2gb.
dbiggss said:
This is about what anyone should expect available from the factory. It is supposed to have 4GB of internal memory, but it appears that the MT4G has the same hidden NAND partition as the G1.
Fortunately enough, it does come with a class 4 8Gig card though
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hey that is weird i got a class 2 8Gig sd card with my white mytouch 4g. i heard some people saying some got a class 2 and others got a class 4 memory card, that is soo weird
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It's the same as the G2. Their story is they reserve space for Gingerbread, which is horse**** - no Android update is 2gb.
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hey where did u hear they reserved the space for gingerbread? i cant wait for that update though. i cant find any info, on when its gonna come out
I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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First of all, this should be in the general section, not the devo section. Second, it sounds like a defect. Some phones were reading incorrect memory. Take it back to the store you bought it from and have them swap it out.
Yes, i probably should have posted in the general section, but normally in the general section most smart phone users are just looking for general info such as specs etc..., i kind of figured the all the android guru"s would notice this question and understand it further more under android devo, than someone would in the general section!
Im sure their will be further discussion on the issue, as I have already noticed in a few other forums.
most users have ~500 megs available memory for apps stock. the phone only has 1gig internal memory vs the 3g vibrants 8 or 16 gigs. Because we have such a cluster F****ed stock rom right now I would imagine that is the reason why the average available is only 500 megs. Phones only been out like a week or two, give it time memory issues will be worked out.
As far as where this post goes, def in wrong section; needs a boot to the general disc forum as it post nothing about the development of the phone.
flyinbird93 said:
most users have ~500 megs available memory for apps stock. the phone only has 1gig internal memory vs the 3g vibrants 8 or 16 gigs. Because we have such a cluster F****ed stock rom right now I would imagine that is the reason why the average available is only 500 megs. Phones only been out like a week or two, give it time memory issues will be worked out.
As far as where this post goes, def in wrong section; needs a boot to the general disc forum as it post nothing about the development of the phone.
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how's the memory issue will work out? get a new phone?
I talked to Samsung and apparently the "missing memory" is not an issue. I hope I made my self clear as possible since I think having less than 200mb available for apps should not be correct. Samsung told me that they are relying on us to download apps and then switching them to the SD card. Most popular apps at this moment cannot be moved from phone to SD card.
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So were getting nowhere with this topic, all I have been suggesting is that are we dealing with some faulty t959v phones or is this 256mb app space "Right out of the box" normal?also what it is supposes to be? Along with no visible internal storage space.
I just wanted to.know... so if my phone is faulty i can get it replaced with the 12 days left I have.
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I talked to Samsung and apparently the "missing memory" is not an issue. I hope I made my self clear as possible since I think having less than 200mb available for apps should not be correct. Samsung told me that they are relying on us to download apps and then switching them to the SD card. Most popular apps at this moment cannot be moved from phone to SD card.
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You can move popular apps to SD card using Titanium backup. I have done this with all my apps and even the pre-installed apps/bloatware.
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So were getting nowhere with this topic, all I have been suggesting is that are we dealing with some faulty t959v phones or is this 256mb app space "Right out of the box" normal?also what it is supposes to be? Along with no visible internal storage space.
I just wanted to.know... so if my phone is faulty i can get it replaced with the 12 days left I have.
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Your phone is not faulty, that is just the way it is. Exchanging it won't get you any additional internal memory. Our only hope is for some custom ROM. Through a custom ROM they can pull out alot of the bloat and free up some space.
Maybe this will help
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I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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I posted this in the general area, Where it belongs. If you haven't found it yet this should give you a better idea about the 4G phone. I did my own research.
If my understanding of the Galaxy S 4G is correct, you get a 1 GB internal memory (ROM) that's complemented by an included 16 GB microSD memory card, and you can upgrade to optional 32 GB microSD card. Both the 3G and 4G have an additional 512MB of system RAM. Once ClockworkMod is working properly and giving access to modify the internal ROM, the 1GB internal memory will be more than enough to allow the Galaxy S 4G to operate just as well as the current Vibrant 3G with upgraded ROMs. The only downside is the loss of the larger 16GB internal SD memory storage the Vibrant 3G has to 1GB on the 4G.
Using links2sd I have moved 100% of all user apps, 106 currently, to the SD. Even so, I have 104 mb available - phone is working great, no problems to report.
Even though an app can be moved to the sd card, some should not. I use Poweramp and smooth calender, both, have widgets I use, If moved to the sd card the widgets can't load, so they need to exist on the internal memory. After all apps I I have 113 megs left.
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I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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I just had a long talk with both T-MO and Samsung. I was told by Samsung that the SGS 4G still has 16GB of internal ROM, in addition to the 16GB external SD chip that it ships with. They were very tight lipped about why you cannot see the internal memory the way you can with the former 3G model. Just a thought, but can you say encryption? What they were saying doesn't jive with what I've read other places. If you want to look you can compare how they list the specs here in their FAQs.
3g
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=301560
4G
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=369849
I have continued to move apps that were on the SD from Apps2SD back to phone and then utilizing links2sd to move them back. My memory is now 154 mb available. I have removed move2sd and apps2sd so that anything I download in the future goes to internal memory and then I move it with links2sd. Amazing application!
Thay is weird the spec shows 16 gb but 270 for apps.
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same issue with vibrant 3g - app space vanishing
I've had the same issue with a rooted vibrant 3g. I've removed dozens of programs - bloatware and apps - using Titanium.
The phone never recovers app space. When it drops to 145mb a warning pops up in the task bar at the top left of the screen. It's really annoying.
I ended up rebuilding the phone - and the same damn issue has returned. BTW, I didn't root the phone for fun, but to fix it. I'm ready for a new phone, but not Android.
You going to sell your phone? Pm me is you do. Since you don't like it, how about 100-150?
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I got same problem, when I go to "storage settings" look like;
total space : unavailable
available space: unavailable
mount sd card : insert SD card
format sd card; faded
system storage
available space
414 mb
pls someone help me , I am going driving crazy...
even pc wouldnt regocnize internal storage neither..
To start with the basic troubleshooting - try wiping your caches and fixing permissions.
Reboot into CWM Recovery -
Go to [wipe cache partition] and select, then select [Yes -- Wipe Cache].
When it is finished - navigate down to [advanced], select [Wipe Dalvik Cache], then select [Yes -- Wipe Dalvik Cache].
When finished - navigate down to [Fix Permissions] and select.
When finished - navigate to [*****Go Back*****] and select [reboot system now].
After reboot - do not touch your phone for 10 minutes to give your caches time to properly rebuild.
Go in and check to see if your problem still persist. If it does - my recommendation is a Factory Reset. You can do a Factory Reset by going to [Settings], select [Privacy], then select [Factory data reset]. As it says when you do this on the [Factory data reset] selection - by doing this you will be erasing all data on your phone.
If these methods do not work let me know and I can help you try fixing the problem with some flashing methods.
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minimalist83 said:
i got same problem, when i go to "storage settings" look like;
total space : Unavailable
available space: Unavailable
mount sd card : Insert sd card
format sd card; faded
system storage
available space
414 mb
pls someone help me , i am going driving crazy...
Even pc wouldnt regocnize internal storage neither..
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I counted FIVE posts regarding this in FIVE different threads!
Do not post the same question multiple places!
I had your other posts deleted.
Nothing worked, this is probably serious problem, after hitting "factory reset" it was stuck boot screen and saw this message says "E:format_volume: rfs format failed on /dev/block/stl11 continuing bunch of like this, all of them starting with failed , cant ....
Thanks
I'm using a DroidX. What is the suggested ratio for free space to used storage? Should more free space be available on the phone's memory?
Should all apps be moved to card?
Thanks for your time.
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I always like to keep some space free on the SD card for making backups and stuff, but that's partly because I switch ROM's quite a bit, so I need to make backups rather a lot.
The Droid X has a decent amount of internal storage, more than the Desire S, anyway. You'd probably be OK keeping the apps on the phone's internal storage, but if you have a good sized SD card (16gb +, I'd say), I'd probably move all the apps to the SD card.
I always try to keep at least 10% storage free, so if I'm away anywhere and want to take a bunch of pictures or HD videos, I'll know I have enough space.
I hope I've helped!
its better to move all your Apps If you have class 4/6/10 sd card then there will no performance issues and your internal memory will use less memory. try have atleast 50-200mb free of your internal memory for good performance..
Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.
Mafiatounes said:
Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.
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the same ordeal with the SGS3, so might as well get the 32GB
I believe that it is possible but only if you root your tablet. I am not positive on this so wait for someone else to verify what I am saying. However it seems that the difference between 16gb and 32gb is only $50 and that ain't bad in my opinion.
I have heard it's not possible with ICS. I hope I'm wrong.
There is no option to move apps to the SD card anymore.
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It's one of tablets thing.
Even with ICS you can't do that. Form side it better for fast and safe replacing of sdcards.
I have the note 5.3 with it I can add apps to the sdcard.
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How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?
Entropy512 said:
How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?
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Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.
Mafiatounes said:
Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.
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Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...
Entropy512 said:
Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...
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No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.
Mafiatounes said:
No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.
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There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.
Entropy512 said:
There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.
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I know that since ICS the memory layout has changed, in previous (GB) devices you had multiple partitions on the internal SD now this is gone and so is apps (data) to SD.
I'm not so sure about the term "broken apps" because in that case it means all apps are broken cause of all my 100 apps and games there is not a single one that can allocate data anywhere except internal sd. Google messed with this since ICS, it isn't a problem on the Galaxy Nexus or One X because they don't have memory expansion.
After thinking about getting the 32GB with a unknown wait time, i decided to for the 16GB Wifi/3G version i will skip Sygic on the Note since i don't see myself with a tablet on the windshield driving.
This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.
demandarin said:
This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.
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Yes, there is a way. Use Apps 2 SD and GL to SD apps. I moved a lot of the huge downloads for my games using those apps.
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this is one advantage ios has over android. you can actually download the games on your computers and sync later. or you can sync, delete and reinstall later without having to redownload everything (unless there's an update). you can kinda do this in android, but it's not as automated.
Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...
TweakerL said:
Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...
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Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.
Apps to Extsd
Use Root Explorer The paid version, works very well.
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Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.
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Could you guide me on how to do this? I got the 16gb note and a 32gb microSD card plugged in.
Oh and another note: how exactly does the storage work on this thing?
I hear all this about internal storage, internal SD and then the external SD (which I assume is the SD card I plugged in myself.
Thanks
Edit: this was supposed to quote the guy I quoted, quoted. Isn't used to this application
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Tried this app. Every. APk got a *FAILED INSUFFICIENT STORAGE" error. I have plenty of available space. Do I need to set up and ext4 for it to work?
Thanks.
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There have been several posts recently on various threads suggesting making partitions on the SD card. Question: What is the purpose of this and what are the benefits?
At present, I'm running CM11 with few, if any, problems. Am currently only using about 1 GB of space on my SD card. I have 55 apps installed.
Thanks.
Well, apps and games are different. Games (and I play just a small few of the very many available) take up much more space. The other Galaxy S devices have only 512Mb flash, while ours has 1G. The problem is the other Galaxy S devices also have an internal SD card, where as SGS4G only has external SD card. Considering the fact that SDXC (SD cards capable of >=64GB) is supported (and I tested it the other day), we can move partitions like the data partition to the SD card.
The current used space on your SD card is expected to be low. Check the internal storage used on your phone.
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Well, apps and games are different. Games (and I play just a small few of the very many available) take up much more space. The other Galaxy S devices have only 512Mb flash, while ours has 1G. The problem is the other Galaxy S devices also have an internal SD card, where as SGS4G only has external SD card. Considering the fact that SDXC (SD cards capable of >=64GB) is supported (and I tested it the other day), we can move partitions like the data partition to the SD card.
The current used space on your SD card is expected to be low. Check the internal storage used on your phone.
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Depending on usage, I generally have about 150-160 mb of free space in internal memory. If I make a partition, what should I push to it and should I expect increases in speed and/or performance?
Thanks.
DickyG said:
Depending on usage, I generally have about 150-160 mb of free space in internal memory.
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That's about what I expected.
DickyG said:
If I make a partition, what should I push to it and should I expect increases in speed and/or performance?
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Well, first of all, both the kernel and the android system image would need some changes made to support moving the data partition from the internal storage to the sdcard.
I think @FBis251 made a test image and reported that it might not have been as fast as he thought it would have been.
Many people have reported success with Link2SD app, and here is a link to one by @Rebel_X.
bhundven said:
That's about what I expected.
Well, first of all, both the kernel and the android system image would need some changes made to support moving the data partition from the internal storage to the sdcard.
I think @FBis251 made a test image and reported that it might not have been as fast as he thought it would have been.
Many people have reported success with Link2SD app, and here is a link to one by @Rebel_X.
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Good input.....thanks. Probably not going to create one since I'm satisfied with my phone's performance. If it ain't broke....