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[Q] Internal Storage Space remaining of the 4GB

I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?

andrewiz2kewl said:
I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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i had 1.02gb before installing any apps. with all my apps i think i got 940mb left but u can do apps2sd if the app supports it lol some wont let me put it on my sd card but some will.

.93gb from the first time I got it..
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i thought there would be more internal memory but i guess not, but still 940mb left is still more the enough for me. plus some big apps can be moved to the sd card.

Ohh okay thank you guys, then thats way better than than the slide, I only get 135mb when I first got it can barely fit all the apps I wanted lol this phone is sure to be mine soon
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I went through all my apps installed and preloaded. Went under the application section and selected every app that was moveable. Went from under 1GB to about 1.2GB. Give or take a bit. Either way still a lot and will be TONS more once we figure out how to remove the bloatware crap. (amazon, twitter, demo video, games, yahoo, you get the point)

s10shane said:
i had 1.02gb before installing any apps. with all my apps i think i got 940mb left but u can do apps2sd if the app supports it lol some wont let me put it on my sd card but some will.
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This is about what anyone should expect available from the factory. It is supposed to have 4GB of internal memory, but it appears that the MT4G has the same hidden NAND partition as the G1.
Fortunately enough, it does come with a class 4 8Gig card though

andrewiz2kewl said:
I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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It's the same as the G2. Their story is they reserve space for Gingerbread, which is horse**** - no Android update is 2gb.

dbiggss said:
This is about what anyone should expect available from the factory. It is supposed to have 4GB of internal memory, but it appears that the MT4G has the same hidden NAND partition as the G1.
Fortunately enough, it does come with a class 4 8Gig card though
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hey that is weird i got a class 2 8Gig sd card with my white mytouch 4g. i heard some people saying some got a class 2 and others got a class 4 memory card, that is soo weird

HamNCheese said:
It's the same as the G2. Their story is they reserve space for Gingerbread, which is horse**** - no Android update is 2gb.
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hey where did u hear they reserved the space for gingerbread? i cant wait for that update though. i cant find any info, on when its gonna come out

Save apps in SD memory card

Hi
Got a Samsung Galaxy i9000 S. I have a 32 Gb memory card. Is it a good idea to save Apps to it? I realise that if something happens to the card I've lost my Apps. However, I have had Smartphones with far less than the 16 Mb flash memory I've got now (I think that's it?) and saving too many programmes and Apps to the internal memory caused the phone to freeze. Since I have 32Gb of memory with nothing else but, songs I thought it may be a good idea. Is that OK?
Thanks

BrianGM said:
Hi
Got a Samsung Galaxy i9000 S. I have a 32 Gb memory card. Is it a good idea to save Apps to it? I realise that if something happens to the card I've lost my Apps. However, I have had Smartphones with far less than the 16 Mb flash memory I've got now (I think that's it?) and saving too many programmes and Apps to the internal memory caused the phone to freeze. Since I have 32Gb of memory with nothing else but, songs I thought it may be a good idea. Is that OK?
Thanks
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If you have sufficient free space on your Internal Memory just leave it be. I would only start thinking of Apps to SD solutions if you are running out of space and really need more.

DirkGently1 said:
If you have sufficient free space on your Internal Memory just leave it be. I would only start thinking of Apps to SD solutions if you are running out of space and really need more.
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yap,,i would thinking of app2sd or a2sd darktremore maybe,,(if internal space like hell)

just got sensation today

just got a Sensation 4g today, coming from the Vibrant. Got a few questions:
1. so im coming from a Vibrant 3G. I am in a 4g area. Just got my sensation 4g in the mail today. I downloaded speedtest app, and am getting about the same download speeds with my sensation 4g as i got with my vibrant 3g....
any ideas?
2. what is the easiest way to transfer files (picture, movies, music, documents) from my vibrant to the sensation? On my Vibrant it had 16 Gb internal and sensation only has one. on my Vibrant most of my stuff was on the internal. Is it to just mount both to my computer as a drive and copy and paste flies from vibrant onto the sensation external sd card?
Im sure I will think of more to ask, thanks

I'd say to pull everything from vibrant into a folder in computer then from the computer over to sensation personally. But welcome I switched back and forth between vibrant and sensation for a couple months before committing to the sensation ha
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lorddart said:
I'd say to pull everything from vibrant into a folder in computer then from the computer over to sensation personally. But welcome I switched back and forth between vibrant and sensation for a couple months before committing to the sensation ha
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thanks.
I was under the impression that the Sensation has 4gb internal and the 8gb external card. when i go under settings>sd and phone storage, it says 1.06gb available on the internal and 7.0gb on the external card....
any ideas why the internal 4gb says 1gb and the 8gb says 7gb?

kboater said:
thanks.
I was under the impression that the Sensation has 4gb internal and the 8gb external card. when i go under settings>sd and phone storage, it says 1.06gb available on the internal and 7.0gb on the external card....
any ideas why the internal 4gb says 1gb and the 8gb says 7gb?
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Around 3 GB of the phones internal storage is reserved for system files and such. And I'm not sure why, but all microSD cards are like that for some reason. They never have the full capacity that they advertise. I think it's because of how it's formatted, but I could be wrong.

kboater said:
just got a Sensation 4g today, coming from the Vibrant. Got a few questions:
1. so im coming from a Vibrant 3G. I am in a 4g area. Just got my sensation 4g in the mail today. I downloaded speedtest app, and am getting about the same download speeds with my sensation 4g as i got with my vibrant 3g....
any ideas?
2. what is the easiest way to transfer files (picture, movies, music, documents) from my vibrant to the sensation? On my Vibrant it had 16 Gb internal and sensation only has one. on my Vibrant most of my stuff was on the internal. Is it to just mount both to my computer as a drive and copy and paste flies from vibrant onto the sensation external sd card?
Im sure I will think of more to ask, thanks
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I think the Vibrant 3G had a radio that was capable of taking advantage of 4G speeds, but not full 4G.

so, should i just take everything from my vibrant (internal and external sd) and copy it to the external SD (8gb) of the Sensation (pictures, videos i taken, apps, games ect...)???
---also, i have titanium backed up all my apps from vibrant. when i root sensation, should i just copy the titanium backup folder onto sensation to restore all? if so, should i copy it only internal or external?
bascially, from what i am trying to understand, there is only 1gb of internal storage to use. Correct?
If the above is correct, (and please correct me if i am wrong), when i download apps, games, take pictures, take videos, download extra content for a game (like how gameloft has you download an extra 75mb of data), ect... do these go to the 1gb of useable internal storage or the external SD?

Only apps and games are stored in the internal storage! Everything else is stored in the sd card ( including games data ) . So i would recomend you let android market restore your apps and then transfer everything else to your sd. Hope i've helped and sorry for my english
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Use titanium backup (free from the market) to backup your apps and games to your Vibrant's SD Card, copy the whole titanium backup folder to your Sensation's sdcard and restore.

so i have trasfered the titanium backup folder from the Vibrant to the Sensation. Also installed Titanium backup app. when i go into the Titanium backup app, and click batch to restore my apps from the vibrant, under the option to restore my backups it does not say i have any apps backed up...
any help?
EDIT: nvm, figured it out. the back up folder was in another folder. i had to move it to the root of the SD card

Hey KB
let me know if that guide I wrote works for you
To answer your questions:
- 3GB of the 4GB internal storage is "reserved" for the system (not including downloaded apps). Seeing as how most ROMs are around 350MB this seems wasteful. You have 1.05GB user accessible storage for Apps.
- You 8GB SD card is actually calculated as 8 billion bytes (base 10), but since your computer uses binary it's actually around 7.5GB. The manufacturer reports it as 8GB out of misrepresentation. It's a longstanding issue with all sorts of storage. You'll be even more pissed off if you buy a 2TB drive
-4G is 3G. Well for most carriers anyway. TRUE 4G is LTE/Wimax, which is a different hardware radio. This is not a TRUE 4G phone. It's actually a 3.5G phone (HSPA+) and that spec reaches "4G speeds" theoretically, according to PR. In reality, you won't get those speeds. More lies.

RoboDan918 said:
Hey KB
let me know if that guide I wrote works for you
To answer your questions:
- 3GB of the 4GB internal storage is "reserved" for the system (not including downloaded apps). Seeing as how most ROMs are around 350MB this seems wasteful. You have 1.05GB user accessible storage for Apps.
- You 8GB SD card is actually calculated as 8 billion bytes (base 10), but since your computer uses binary it's actually around 7.5GB. The manufacturer reports it as 8GB out of misrepresentation. It's a longstanding issue with all sorts of storage. You'll be even more pissed off if you buy a 2TB drive
-4G is 3G. Well for most carriers anyway. TRUE 4G is LTE/Wimax, which is a different hardware radio. This is not a TRUE 4G phone. It's actually a 3.5G phone (HSPA+) and that spec reaches "4G speeds" theoretically, according to PR. In reality, you won't get those speeds. More lies.
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your guide worked great! thanks!
the problem was my computer. finally tried a third computer that worked.
thanks!

Note 10.1 users, Is Apps to SD possible?

Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.

Mafiatounes said:
Hi, i use a Galaxy S3 and have used many roms but it's not possible to move apps to the sd card, is this the same on the Note? The reason i ask is because i need more than 16GB of storage for all my apps, if it is not possible i will buy the 32GB version if yes i will get the 16GB with a 32GB micro sd.
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the same ordeal with the SGS3, so might as well get the 32GB

I believe that it is possible but only if you root your tablet. I am not positive on this so wait for someone else to verify what I am saying. However it seems that the difference between 16gb and 32gb is only $50 and that ain't bad in my opinion.

I have heard it's not possible with ICS. I hope I'm wrong.

There is no option to move apps to the SD card anymore.
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It's one of tablets thing.
Even with ICS you can't do that. Form side it better for fast and safe replacing of sdcards.
I have the note 5.3 with it I can add apps to the sdcard.
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How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?

Entropy512 said:
How the hell are you filling 16GB of space with JUST apps?
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Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.

Mafiatounes said:
Well most (Batman, Amazing Spiderman and so on) games are about 1>2GB in size + many small apps i use + Sygic with maps of countries i have to visit for work on a regular bases (Belgium, The Netherlands, France and Germany), add to that you only get 11.25GB and my S3's memory is almost full.
I will have to wait for the 32GB/3G version it is not available yet here.
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Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...

Entropy512 said:
Sounds like broken apps if they are not able to move their data portion to external storage...
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No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.

Mafiatounes said:
No broken apps, the ability is taken out in devices launched with ICS/JB, devices updated to ICS/JB still have the ability to move apps to SD it seems.
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There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.

Entropy512 said:
There should be no need for an app to be moved to SD. HOWEVER, an app SHOULD be able to have its data relocated - if it can't the app is broken.
No *app* is large enough to justify moving to SD. However, if an app insists on its data being in the same location and can't be moved to external storage, that's a problem.
In fact, most likely, those apps already have their data on the "SD" - the problem is that on devices like this, the internal SD is indistinguishable from /data in terms of storage usage. If the app doesn't support moving data to external SD, that's a broken app.
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I know that since ICS the memory layout has changed, in previous (GB) devices you had multiple partitions on the internal SD now this is gone and so is apps (data) to SD.
I'm not so sure about the term "broken apps" because in that case it means all apps are broken cause of all my 100 apps and games there is not a single one that can allocate data anywhere except internal sd. Google messed with this since ICS, it isn't a problem on the Galaxy Nexus or One X because they don't have memory expansion.
After thinking about getting the 32GB with a unknown wait time, i decided to for the 16GB Wifi/3G version i will skip Sygic on the Note since i don't see myself with a tablet on the windshield driving.

This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.

demandarin said:
This is why I returned my 16gb. I have the 32gb one on the way now. With these Androidand gameloft games, it ddoesn't take long to use up 16gb of memory. Which is really only 11gb out the box. My nova3 alone is like 2gb. So I need larger storage space for all my games n apps. The games are the ones taking up the most space.
But I think the op means moving the data to external SD/memory card. So it'll free up space on internal storage/internal SD..which is really all merged now. So yeah, games store their data to internal SD. But if you have a microsd card installed, there's no way to move the largest part of game data to it to free up space on internal memory. That's my take on moving apps to SD. I know of the older methods. Like on my atrix. Still on froyo. I can move apps from internal storage(which was limited in size) to internal SD(which was larger in size). Or even move it to external. Lmfao I'm confusing myself now.
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Yes, there is a way. Use Apps 2 SD and GL to SD apps. I moved a lot of the huge downloads for my games using those apps.
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this is one advantage ios has over android. you can actually download the games on your computers and sync later. or you can sync, delete and reinstall later without having to redownload everything (unless there's an update). you can kinda do this in android, but it's not as automated.

Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...

TweakerL said:
Get link2sd
Use link2sd to move apps to external sd
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Profit...
Sure it would be nicer if it was all built into the OS, but I think it takes less time to get link2sd and solve than problem than it takes to complain... I have a 16gb pad, and a 64gb MicroSD split half as fat32 and half as ext4... all my large apps go into the ext4 partition... so even though I have more than 16gb worth of apps/games, my internal storage is almost empty...
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Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.

Apps to Extsd
Use Root Explorer The paid version, works very well.

Noxey said:
Can you possibly explain this process in a bit more detail, and maybe provide some pictures? I'm ordering mine today, but if this is true I'll just save some cash (and heartache with the lack of 32s being available) and purchase the 16+ an SD card.
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Could you guide me on how to do this? I got the 16gb note and a 32gb microSD card plugged in.
Oh and another note: how exactly does the storage work on this thing?
I hear all this about internal storage, internal SD and then the external SD (which I assume is the SD card I plugged in myself.
Thanks
Edit: this was supposed to quote the guy I quoted, quoted. Isn't used to this application
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Tried this app. Every. APk got a *FAILED INSUFFICIENT STORAGE" error. I have plenty of available space. Do I need to set up and ext4 for it to work?
Thanks.
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Making Partitions on SD Card

There have been several posts recently on various threads suggesting making partitions on the SD card. Question: What is the purpose of this and what are the benefits?
At present, I'm running CM11 with few, if any, problems. Am currently only using about 1 GB of space on my SD card. I have 55 apps installed.
Thanks.

Well, apps and games are different. Games (and I play just a small few of the very many available) take up much more space. The other Galaxy S devices have only 512Mb flash, while ours has 1G. The problem is the other Galaxy S devices also have an internal SD card, where as SGS4G only has external SD card. Considering the fact that SDXC (SD cards capable of >=64GB) is supported (and I tested it the other day), we can move partitions like the data partition to the SD card.
The current used space on your SD card is expected to be low. Check the internal storage used on your phone.
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bhundven said:
Well, apps and games are different. Games (and I play just a small few of the very many available) take up much more space. The other Galaxy S devices have only 512Mb flash, while ours has 1G. The problem is the other Galaxy S devices also have an internal SD card, where as SGS4G only has external SD card. Considering the fact that SDXC (SD cards capable of >=64GB) is supported (and I tested it the other day), we can move partitions like the data partition to the SD card.
The current used space on your SD card is expected to be low. Check the internal storage used on your phone.
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Depending on usage, I generally have about 150-160 mb of free space in internal memory. If I make a partition, what should I push to it and should I expect increases in speed and/or performance?
Thanks.

DickyG said:
Depending on usage, I generally have about 150-160 mb of free space in internal memory.
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That's about what I expected.
DickyG said:
If I make a partition, what should I push to it and should I expect increases in speed and/or performance?
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Well, first of all, both the kernel and the android system image would need some changes made to support moving the data partition from the internal storage to the sdcard.
I think @FBis251 made a test image and reported that it might not have been as fast as he thought it would have been.
Many people have reported success with Link2SD app, and here is a link to one by @Rebel_X.

bhundven said:
That's about what I expected.
Well, first of all, both the kernel and the android system image would need some changes made to support moving the data partition from the internal storage to the sdcard.
I think @FBis251 made a test image and reported that it might not have been as fast as he thought it would have been.
Many people have reported success with Link2SD app, and here is a link to one by @Rebel_X.
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Good input.....thanks. Probably not going to create one since I'm satisfied with my phone's performance. If it ain't broke....