I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
androidddaaron said:
I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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First of all, this should be in the general section, not the devo section. Second, it sounds like a defect. Some phones were reading incorrect memory. Take it back to the store you bought it from and have them swap it out.
Yes, i probably should have posted in the general section, but normally in the general section most smart phone users are just looking for general info such as specs etc..., i kind of figured the all the android guru"s would notice this question and understand it further more under android devo, than someone would in the general section!
Im sure their will be further discussion on the issue, as I have already noticed in a few other forums.
most users have ~500 megs available memory for apps stock. the phone only has 1gig internal memory vs the 3g vibrants 8 or 16 gigs. Because we have such a cluster F****ed stock rom right now I would imagine that is the reason why the average available is only 500 megs. Phones only been out like a week or two, give it time memory issues will be worked out.
As far as where this post goes, def in wrong section; needs a boot to the general disc forum as it post nothing about the development of the phone.
flyinbird93 said:
most users have ~500 megs available memory for apps stock. the phone only has 1gig internal memory vs the 3g vibrants 8 or 16 gigs. Because we have such a cluster F****ed stock rom right now I would imagine that is the reason why the average available is only 500 megs. Phones only been out like a week or two, give it time memory issues will be worked out.
As far as where this post goes, def in wrong section; needs a boot to the general disc forum as it post nothing about the development of the phone.
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how's the memory issue will work out? get a new phone?
I talked to Samsung and apparently the "missing memory" is not an issue. I hope I made my self clear as possible since I think having less than 200mb available for apps should not be correct. Samsung told me that they are relying on us to download apps and then switching them to the SD card. Most popular apps at this moment cannot be moved from phone to SD card.
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So were getting nowhere with this topic, all I have been suggesting is that are we dealing with some faulty t959v phones or is this 256mb app space "Right out of the box" normal?also what it is supposes to be? Along with no visible internal storage space.
I just wanted to.know... so if my phone is faulty i can get it replaced with the 12 days left I have.
ozkerr said:
I talked to Samsung and apparently the "missing memory" is not an issue. I hope I made my self clear as possible since I think having less than 200mb available for apps should not be correct. Samsung told me that they are relying on us to download apps and then switching them to the SD card. Most popular apps at this moment cannot be moved from phone to SD card.
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You can move popular apps to SD card using Titanium backup. I have done this with all my apps and even the pre-installed apps/bloatware.
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So were getting nowhere with this topic, all I have been suggesting is that are we dealing with some faulty t959v phones or is this 256mb app space "Right out of the box" normal?also what it is supposes to be? Along with no visible internal storage space.
I just wanted to.know... so if my phone is faulty i can get it replaced with the 12 days left I have.
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Your phone is not faulty, that is just the way it is. Exchanging it won't get you any additional internal memory. Our only hope is for some custom ROM. Through a custom ROM they can pull out alot of the bloat and free up some space.
Maybe this will help
androidddaaron said:
I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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I posted this in the general area, Where it belongs. If you haven't found it yet this should give you a better idea about the 4G phone. I did my own research.
If my understanding of the Galaxy S 4G is correct, you get a 1 GB internal memory (ROM) that's complemented by an included 16 GB microSD memory card, and you can upgrade to optional 32 GB microSD card. Both the 3G and 4G have an additional 512MB of system RAM. Once ClockworkMod is working properly and giving access to modify the internal ROM, the 1GB internal memory will be more than enough to allow the Galaxy S 4G to operate just as well as the current Vibrant 3G with upgraded ROMs. The only downside is the loss of the larger 16GB internal SD memory storage the Vibrant 3G has to 1GB on the 4G.
Using links2sd I have moved 100% of all user apps, 106 currently, to the SD. Even so, I have 104 mb available - phone is working great, no problems to report.
Even though an app can be moved to the sd card, some should not. I use Poweramp and smooth calender, both, have widgets I use, If moved to the sd card the widgets can't load, so they need to exist on the internal memory. After all apps I I have 113 megs left.
androidddaaron said:
I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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I just had a long talk with both T-MO and Samsung. I was told by Samsung that the SGS 4G still has 16GB of internal ROM, in addition to the 16GB external SD chip that it ships with. They were very tight lipped about why you cannot see the internal memory the way you can with the former 3G model. Just a thought, but can you say encryption? What they were saying doesn't jive with what I've read other places. If you want to look you can compare how they list the specs here in their FAQs.
3g
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=301560
4G
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=369849
I have continued to move apps that were on the SD from Apps2SD back to phone and then utilizing links2sd to move them back. My memory is now 154 mb available. I have removed move2sd and apps2sd so that anything I download in the future goes to internal memory and then I move it with links2sd. Amazing application!
Thay is weird the spec shows 16 gb but 270 for apps.
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same issue with vibrant 3g - app space vanishing
I've had the same issue with a rooted vibrant 3g. I've removed dozens of programs - bloatware and apps - using Titanium.
The phone never recovers app space. When it drops to 145mb a warning pops up in the task bar at the top left of the screen. It's really annoying.
I ended up rebuilding the phone - and the same damn issue has returned. BTW, I didn't root the phone for fun, but to fix it. I'm ready for a new phone, but not Android.
You going to sell your phone? Pm me is you do. Since you don't like it, how about 100-150?
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I got same problem, when I go to "storage settings" look like;
total space : unavailable
available space: unavailable
mount sd card : insert SD card
format sd card; faded
system storage
available space
414 mb
pls someone help me , I am going driving crazy...
even pc wouldnt regocnize internal storage neither..
To start with the basic troubleshooting - try wiping your caches and fixing permissions.
Reboot into CWM Recovery -
Go to [wipe cache partition] and select, then select [Yes -- Wipe Cache].
When it is finished - navigate down to [advanced], select [Wipe Dalvik Cache], then select [Yes -- Wipe Dalvik Cache].
When finished - navigate down to [Fix Permissions] and select.
When finished - navigate to [*****Go Back*****] and select [reboot system now].
After reboot - do not touch your phone for 10 minutes to give your caches time to properly rebuild.
Go in and check to see if your problem still persist. If it does - my recommendation is a Factory Reset. You can do a Factory Reset by going to [Settings], select [Privacy], then select [Factory data reset]. As it says when you do this on the [Factory data reset] selection - by doing this you will be erasing all data on your phone.
If these methods do not work let me know and I can help you try fixing the problem with some flashing methods.
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minimalist83 said:
i got same problem, when i go to "storage settings" look like;
total space : Unavailable
available space: Unavailable
mount sd card : Insert sd card
format sd card; faded
system storage
available space
414 mb
pls someone help me , i am going driving crazy...
Even pc wouldnt regocnize internal storage neither..
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I counted FIVE posts regarding this in FIVE different threads!
Do not post the same question multiple places!
I had your other posts deleted.
Nothing worked, this is probably serious problem, after hitting "factory reset" it was stuck boot screen and saw this message says "E:format_volume: rfs format failed on /dev/block/stl11 continuing bunch of like this, all of them starting with failed , cant ....
Thanks
Dumped my buggy not impressive Galaxy s 4g today> (love Costcos 3 months policy) and picked up G2x. So far extremally impressed!
One question is the Costco phone guy handed my the 16gig micro SD card from the Galaxy as he said he had extras from dead phones. I said THANK YOU! and installed. However when using AppstoSd program it only see's internal mem, and Internal SD 5gs. It does not see or give option to move to my 16g Sd card?
My HD2 and Samsung worked great with AppstoSD. Am I missing something? I mean I guess the 1.2gig and 5gigs of internal is enough. But I like to also use the SD card for programs to not overload internal memory.
I have not rooted yet, will do that so I can get my Titanium backup working to see it I can do it with that.
Thanks!
iceshark said:
Dumped my buggy not impressive Galaxy s 4g today> (love Costcos 3 months policy) and picked up G2x. So far extremally impressed!
One question is the Costco phone guy handed my the 16gig micro SD card from the Galaxy as he said he had extras from dead phones. I said THANK YOU! and installed. However when using AppstoSd program it only see's internal mem, and Internal SD 5gs. It does not see or give option to move to my 16g Sd card?
My HD2 and Samsung worked great with AppstoSD. Am I missing something? I mean I guess the 1.2gig and 5gigs of internal is enough. But I like to also use the SD card for programs to not overload internal memory.
I have not rooted yet, will do that so I can get my Titanium backup working to see it I can do it with that.
Thanks!
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Can't be done, discussed endlessly in the corresponding O2x thread...
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Can't be done, discussed endlessly in the corresponding O2x thread...
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Been all over that thread. This issue and the "phantom AT&T bands are two big issues on this device. However, there may be some hope at the CM end - not this item in the latest CM7 changelog"
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Change I6beb0077: Allow multiple shareable SD Cards by using getShareableVolumes() to get all the volumes that are shareable and allowing sharing/unsharing for all of them rather than just the hardcoded getExternalStorage calls.
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First thank you for responding. I am not a newbie but have been rooting and testing my Hd2's for past year. My first non HTC phone in awhile was the vibrant s4g, it had its own problems with very low internal memory.
So I was excited this phone had 8 gigs plus now my 16 gig card. I have not been on these forums so I did not know it was a known issue Sorry.
So to clarify, there is no workaroud? But can I not just use root explorer and move files to the SD card? I understand apps to sd wont do it automaticly. But I plan to put my music and movies at least on SD... What would even be the use of the manufacturer putting SD slot on phone if you could not use it?
Ira that is what I do. SD card = sdcard/external_SD
Or something to that effect. I plan to keep my apps2sd on internal and SD for straight storage and backups.
From the sound of it, the clockwork mod can access the microsd so at least backups will be off the device.
-sent from my LG 2Gx
iceshark said:
First thank you for responding. I am not a newbie but have been rooting and testing my Hd2's for past year. My first non HTC phone in awhile was the vibrant s4g, it had its own problems with very low internal memory.
So I was excited this phone had 8 gigs plus now my 16 gig card. I have not been on these forums so I did not know it was a known issue Sorry.
So to clarify, there is no workaroud? But can I not just use root explorer and move files to the SD card? I understand apps to sd wont do it automaticly. But I plan to put my music and movies at least on SD... What would even be the use of the manufacturer putting SD slot on phone if you could not use it?
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What I have been doing is the basic copy and paste. I copy the app or video ect. from the sd card and paste it on the ext/sd card. If there is a faster oor easier way please let me know. I am rooted and this is the first phone I ever had with this kind of a set up with the sd card. I prefer the other way much better ala Nexus One.
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Ira that is what I do. SD card = sdcard/external_SD
Or something to that effect. I plan to keep my apps2sd on internal and SD for straight storage and backups.
From the sound of it, the clockwork mod can access the microsd so at least backups will be off the device.
-sent from my LG 2Gx
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That is correct. In a file manager etc. you can locate your SD Card by going to the ExternalSD folder (path: SD Card/ExternalSD). The "SD Card" is actually the internal memory, and the "External SD" is the actual SD Card. When you plug your phone into a PC two different drives come up, one for the internal and one for the SD Card. From what I know you can't put apps on your actual SD Card. However music, pics, etc. all work just fine. I have all my music on my SD Card and everything else on the internal.
P.S. When opening the internal memory in a PC it will still have an ExternalSD folder, but it will be empty. I would advise not deleting it.
There's something like 1.5GB just for apps. What the heck are you doing to "overload" it??
cyberchuck9000 said:
There's something like 1.5GB just for apps. What the heck are you doing to "overload" it??
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GPS maps will easily overload the internal SD card. If they let the map location be set, that would fix it, but most do not (yet).
i am thinking of switching from att to tmobile for the sensation 4g. i currently use a desire and the usable internal memory after fresh reset isn't a lot. i just wanted to know how much usable internal memory do you get when you get it out of the box. since some programs still use the internal memory and programs that are transferrable to the sd card will still use a portion of internal memoyr. i'm not planning to root the device either, even though it's impossible right now.
It's different for a lot of devices. I was only getting about 100-125 megs of free ram out of the box. After I installed Launcher pro plus,I know get 175-210 megs free. Sense hogs everything up. Try a different launcher,you should get better results & a smoother running phone.
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kevinf1990 said:
i am thinking of switching from att to tmobile for the sensation 4g. i currently use a desire and the usable internal memory after fresh reset isn't a lot. i just wanted to know how much usable internal memory do you get when you get it out of the box. since some programs still use the internal memory and programs that are transferrable to the sd card will still use a portion of internal memoyr. i'm not planning to root the device either, even though it's impossible right now.
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The task manager isnt working right on the sensation,, if you go to settings>applications>running services then it should tell you how many memory is being used, I get 300 up free on mine.
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Ok so I just got a SGS4G I had a Vibrant 3g and since the 4g didn't come with an sd card i used my original one from the 3g as we all know that had Avatar on it. I don't care for either movie and I knew Avatar wouldn't work on the 4g so I decided to format it through the phone and now I only have 2gb of memory. But the original sd card seems to be partitioned into 2, one for the movie and the other for files. I can only access the part the movie was on(2gb), so back to my problem how do I retrieve the extra storage space. When in the phone the computer also only detects one part(2gb) instead of the usual 2 drives
Just go to tmobile and ask for a different one
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Have you actually had any luck with that at a T-mobile store, its worth a try but just wondering why i cant access the rest of the storage space
so I just found out that in the 4g inception is in the same root menu as all items stored on the sd card, but on the 3g the avatar movie is in a separate partition. I formated it and now one partition is compleatly gone and i can only access the other which contains only 2gb instead of the 8gb it has
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Have you actually had any luck with that at a T-mobile store, its worth a try but just wondering why i cant access the rest of the storage space
so I just found out that in the 4g inception is in the same root menu as all items stored on the sd card, but on the 3g the avatar movie is in a separate partition. I formated it and now one partition is compleatly gone and i can only access the other which contains only 2gb instead of the 8gb it has
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The vibrant 3g's memory card is only 2gig. The internal memory is 16gig and the external SD is 2gig.
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I was pretty upset when I broke my vibrant and found that the replacement was the 4g.... I have since gotten over it... Between working gb GPS, ffc, hacked Skype, voodoo (thanks again desexton for help), & icbinb ROM... This phone rocks... Buy bigger sd card..
just use Titanium backup and zap the bloat (be careful, "read, read, reread"-desexton) and Odin is our friend.
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Got this new samsung infuse still trying to understand it. According to the specs, the phone is built in 16gb storage? If I download apps to it, it will automatically put that in the phone storage instead of external MircoSim, Somethings I am not sure if really need the external sim for it. Like Rom Manager, if I put the MicroSim, would it install in the External instead of the internal storage. I am confused.
Cause my other HTC inspire has 1 gb memory then the external. This one is little different. Not sure what is store internal and external, should I move things around?
Slightly confused on your post. First off you mean the micro sdcard, not sim. The sim card is what makes your phone work on carrier network. The phone has built in storage and a slot to insert a micro sdcard, it comes with a 2gb which isn't much so I upgraded to a 16gb which gives me a total of 32gb's of storage. As far as where apps and such are placed, I don't worry too much about that, I just leave it where it defaults to.
As far as your inspire with 1gb of memory, that's not actual storage memory, its ram.
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By default, the phone splits the 16GB of "internal" memory into 2 partitions: a 2GB partition for system usage (apps, ROM, data) and 14GB that you can mount and use as a regular SD card for storing music, videos, etc. With an external SD card installed, most apps should still drop themselves in the 2GB internal partition. The rest you can just manually move to phone storage or use TiBu to batch move.
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Slightly confused on your post. First off you mean the micro sdcard, not sim. The sim card is what makes your phone work on carrier network. The phone has built in storage and a slot to insert a micro sdcard, it comes with a 2gb which isn't much so I upgraded to a 16gb which gives me a total of 32gb's of storage. As far as where apps and such are placed, I don't worry too much about that, I just leave it where it defaults to.
As far as your inspire with 1gb of memory, that's not actual storage memory, its ram.
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Sorry my bad, it should be MicroSD.