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I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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i had 1.02gb before installing any apps. with all my apps i think i got 940mb left but u can do apps2sd if the app supports it lol some wont let me put it on my sd card but some will.
.93gb from the first time I got it..
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i thought there would be more internal memory but i guess not, but still 940mb left is still more the enough for me. plus some big apps can be moved to the sd card.
Ohh okay thank you guys, then thats way better than than the slide, I only get 135mb when I first got it can barely fit all the apps I wanted lol this phone is sure to be mine soon
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I went through all my apps installed and preloaded. Went under the application section and selected every app that was moveable. Went from under 1GB to about 1.2GB. Give or take a bit. Either way still a lot and will be TONS more once we figure out how to remove the bloatware crap. (amazon, twitter, demo video, games, yahoo, you get the point)
s10shane said:
i had 1.02gb before installing any apps. with all my apps i think i got 940mb left but u can do apps2sd if the app supports it lol some wont let me put it on my sd card but some will.
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This is about what anyone should expect available from the factory. It is supposed to have 4GB of internal memory, but it appears that the MT4G has the same hidden NAND partition as the G1.
Fortunately enough, it does come with a class 4 8Gig card though
andrewiz2kewl said:
I was wondering about the internal storage space. The specs have showed that it contained 4GB of storage space for the rom, I wonder how much did it took up and how much remained in the settings when first booted up. Also does this phone also include App2Sd? Like other 2.2 Froyo operating systems?
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It's the same as the G2. Their story is they reserve space for Gingerbread, which is horse**** - no Android update is 2gb.
dbiggss said:
This is about what anyone should expect available from the factory. It is supposed to have 4GB of internal memory, but it appears that the MT4G has the same hidden NAND partition as the G1.
Fortunately enough, it does come with a class 4 8Gig card though
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hey that is weird i got a class 2 8Gig sd card with my white mytouch 4g. i heard some people saying some got a class 2 and others got a class 4 memory card, that is soo weird
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It's the same as the G2. Their story is they reserve space for Gingerbread, which is horse**** - no Android update is 2gb.
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hey where did u hear they reserved the space for gingerbread? i cant wait for that update though. i cant find any info, on when its gonna come out
I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
androidddaaron said:
I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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First of all, this should be in the general section, not the devo section. Second, it sounds like a defect. Some phones were reading incorrect memory. Take it back to the store you bought it from and have them swap it out.
Yes, i probably should have posted in the general section, but normally in the general section most smart phone users are just looking for general info such as specs etc..., i kind of figured the all the android guru"s would notice this question and understand it further more under android devo, than someone would in the general section!
Im sure their will be further discussion on the issue, as I have already noticed in a few other forums.
most users have ~500 megs available memory for apps stock. the phone only has 1gig internal memory vs the 3g vibrants 8 or 16 gigs. Because we have such a cluster F****ed stock rom right now I would imagine that is the reason why the average available is only 500 megs. Phones only been out like a week or two, give it time memory issues will be worked out.
As far as where this post goes, def in wrong section; needs a boot to the general disc forum as it post nothing about the development of the phone.
flyinbird93 said:
most users have ~500 megs available memory for apps stock. the phone only has 1gig internal memory vs the 3g vibrants 8 or 16 gigs. Because we have such a cluster F****ed stock rom right now I would imagine that is the reason why the average available is only 500 megs. Phones only been out like a week or two, give it time memory issues will be worked out.
As far as where this post goes, def in wrong section; needs a boot to the general disc forum as it post nothing about the development of the phone.
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how's the memory issue will work out? get a new phone?
I talked to Samsung and apparently the "missing memory" is not an issue. I hope I made my self clear as possible since I think having less than 200mb available for apps should not be correct. Samsung told me that they are relying on us to download apps and then switching them to the SD card. Most popular apps at this moment cannot be moved from phone to SD card.
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So were getting nowhere with this topic, all I have been suggesting is that are we dealing with some faulty t959v phones or is this 256mb app space "Right out of the box" normal?also what it is supposes to be? Along with no visible internal storage space.
I just wanted to.know... so if my phone is faulty i can get it replaced with the 12 days left I have.
ozkerr said:
I talked to Samsung and apparently the "missing memory" is not an issue. I hope I made my self clear as possible since I think having less than 200mb available for apps should not be correct. Samsung told me that they are relying on us to download apps and then switching them to the SD card. Most popular apps at this moment cannot be moved from phone to SD card.
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You can move popular apps to SD card using Titanium backup. I have done this with all my apps and even the pre-installed apps/bloatware.
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So were getting nowhere with this topic, all I have been suggesting is that are we dealing with some faulty t959v phones or is this 256mb app space "Right out of the box" normal?also what it is supposes to be? Along with no visible internal storage space.
I just wanted to.know... so if my phone is faulty i can get it replaced with the 12 days left I have.
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Your phone is not faulty, that is just the way it is. Exchanging it won't get you any additional internal memory. Our only hope is for some custom ROM. Through a custom ROM they can pull out alot of the bloat and free up some space.
Maybe this will help
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I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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I posted this in the general area, Where it belongs. If you haven't found it yet this should give you a better idea about the 4G phone. I did my own research.
If my understanding of the Galaxy S 4G is correct, you get a 1 GB internal memory (ROM) that's complemented by an included 16 GB microSD memory card, and you can upgrade to optional 32 GB microSD card. Both the 3G and 4G have an additional 512MB of system RAM. Once ClockworkMod is working properly and giving access to modify the internal ROM, the 1GB internal memory will be more than enough to allow the Galaxy S 4G to operate just as well as the current Vibrant 3G with upgraded ROMs. The only downside is the loss of the larger 16GB internal SD memory storage the Vibrant 3G has to 1GB on the 4G.
Using links2sd I have moved 100% of all user apps, 106 currently, to the SD. Even so, I have 104 mb available - phone is working great, no problems to report.
Even though an app can be moved to the sd card, some should not. I use Poweramp and smooth calender, both, have widgets I use, If moved to the sd card the widgets can't load, so they need to exist on the internal memory. After all apps I I have 113 megs left.
androidddaaron said:
I just purchased the vibrant 4g, amazing phone, very fast, much faster than the mytouch 4g, I rooted it of course via"superoneclick. My main issue is what in the world is the issue with this phone showing practically no app storage space, only 256mb? And after 10 apps your down to 191mb ...
Also my phone in perticular shows no internal storage space ,unlike the original 3g vibrant shows sd space, internal space, and app space??
I called Samsung tech direct, and they are idiots as well as tmobile!
they say that it has only 256 mb app space, and hd no insight on why it shows no internal storage space, how does this justify the advertised 1gb ram /512mb
Im sure this is a let down to others as well, or do we have defective phones coming through? I have heard reports of others with 800mb app storage and some as low as 190mb right out of the box.
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I just had a long talk with both T-MO and Samsung. I was told by Samsung that the SGS 4G still has 16GB of internal ROM, in addition to the 16GB external SD chip that it ships with. They were very tight lipped about why you cannot see the internal memory the way you can with the former 3G model. Just a thought, but can you say encryption? What they were saying doesn't jive with what I've read other places. If you want to look you can compare how they list the specs here in their FAQs.
3g
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=301560
4G
http://ars.samsung.com/customer/usa...ID=2&PROD_SUB_ID=557&PROD_ID=560&AT_ID=369849
I have continued to move apps that were on the SD from Apps2SD back to phone and then utilizing links2sd to move them back. My memory is now 154 mb available. I have removed move2sd and apps2sd so that anything I download in the future goes to internal memory and then I move it with links2sd. Amazing application!
Thay is weird the spec shows 16 gb but 270 for apps.
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same issue with vibrant 3g - app space vanishing
I've had the same issue with a rooted vibrant 3g. I've removed dozens of programs - bloatware and apps - using Titanium.
The phone never recovers app space. When it drops to 145mb a warning pops up in the task bar at the top left of the screen. It's really annoying.
I ended up rebuilding the phone - and the same damn issue has returned. BTW, I didn't root the phone for fun, but to fix it. I'm ready for a new phone, but not Android.
You going to sell your phone? Pm me is you do. Since you don't like it, how about 100-150?
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I got same problem, when I go to "storage settings" look like;
total space : unavailable
available space: unavailable
mount sd card : insert SD card
format sd card; faded
system storage
available space
414 mb
pls someone help me , I am going driving crazy...
even pc wouldnt regocnize internal storage neither..
To start with the basic troubleshooting - try wiping your caches and fixing permissions.
Reboot into CWM Recovery -
Go to [wipe cache partition] and select, then select [Yes -- Wipe Cache].
When it is finished - navigate down to [advanced], select [Wipe Dalvik Cache], then select [Yes -- Wipe Dalvik Cache].
When finished - navigate down to [Fix Permissions] and select.
When finished - navigate to [*****Go Back*****] and select [reboot system now].
After reboot - do not touch your phone for 10 minutes to give your caches time to properly rebuild.
Go in and check to see if your problem still persist. If it does - my recommendation is a Factory Reset. You can do a Factory Reset by going to [Settings], select [Privacy], then select [Factory data reset]. As it says when you do this on the [Factory data reset] selection - by doing this you will be erasing all data on your phone.
If these methods do not work let me know and I can help you try fixing the problem with some flashing methods.
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minimalist83 said:
i got same problem, when i go to "storage settings" look like;
total space : Unavailable
available space: Unavailable
mount sd card : Insert sd card
format sd card; faded
system storage
available space
414 mb
pls someone help me , i am going driving crazy...
Even pc wouldnt regocnize internal storage neither..
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I counted FIVE posts regarding this in FIVE different threads!
Do not post the same question multiple places!
I had your other posts deleted.
Nothing worked, this is probably serious problem, after hitting "factory reset" it was stuck boot screen and saw this message says "E:format_volume: rfs format failed on /dev/block/stl11 continuing bunch of like this, all of them starting with failed , cant ....
Thanks
just got a Sensation 4g today, coming from the Vibrant. Got a few questions:
1. so im coming from a Vibrant 3G. I am in a 4g area. Just got my sensation 4g in the mail today. I downloaded speedtest app, and am getting about the same download speeds with my sensation 4g as i got with my vibrant 3g....
any ideas?
2. what is the easiest way to transfer files (picture, movies, music, documents) from my vibrant to the sensation? On my Vibrant it had 16 Gb internal and sensation only has one. on my Vibrant most of my stuff was on the internal. Is it to just mount both to my computer as a drive and copy and paste flies from vibrant onto the sensation external sd card?
Im sure I will think of more to ask, thanks
I'd say to pull everything from vibrant into a folder in computer then from the computer over to sensation personally. But welcome I switched back and forth between vibrant and sensation for a couple months before committing to the sensation ha
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lorddart said:
I'd say to pull everything from vibrant into a folder in computer then from the computer over to sensation personally. But welcome I switched back and forth between vibrant and sensation for a couple months before committing to the sensation ha
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thanks.
I was under the impression that the Sensation has 4gb internal and the 8gb external card. when i go under settings>sd and phone storage, it says 1.06gb available on the internal and 7.0gb on the external card....
any ideas why the internal 4gb says 1gb and the 8gb says 7gb?
kboater said:
thanks.
I was under the impression that the Sensation has 4gb internal and the 8gb external card. when i go under settings>sd and phone storage, it says 1.06gb available on the internal and 7.0gb on the external card....
any ideas why the internal 4gb says 1gb and the 8gb says 7gb?
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Around 3 GB of the phones internal storage is reserved for system files and such. And I'm not sure why, but all microSD cards are like that for some reason. They never have the full capacity that they advertise. I think it's because of how it's formatted, but I could be wrong.
kboater said:
just got a Sensation 4g today, coming from the Vibrant. Got a few questions:
1. so im coming from a Vibrant 3G. I am in a 4g area. Just got my sensation 4g in the mail today. I downloaded speedtest app, and am getting about the same download speeds with my sensation 4g as i got with my vibrant 3g....
any ideas?
2. what is the easiest way to transfer files (picture, movies, music, documents) from my vibrant to the sensation? On my Vibrant it had 16 Gb internal and sensation only has one. on my Vibrant most of my stuff was on the internal. Is it to just mount both to my computer as a drive and copy and paste flies from vibrant onto the sensation external sd card?
Im sure I will think of more to ask, thanks
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I think the Vibrant 3G had a radio that was capable of taking advantage of 4G speeds, but not full 4G.
so, should i just take everything from my vibrant (internal and external sd) and copy it to the external SD (8gb) of the Sensation (pictures, videos i taken, apps, games ect...)???
---also, i have titanium backed up all my apps from vibrant. when i root sensation, should i just copy the titanium backup folder onto sensation to restore all? if so, should i copy it only internal or external?
bascially, from what i am trying to understand, there is only 1gb of internal storage to use. Correct?
If the above is correct, (and please correct me if i am wrong), when i download apps, games, take pictures, take videos, download extra content for a game (like how gameloft has you download an extra 75mb of data), ect... do these go to the 1gb of useable internal storage or the external SD?
Only apps and games are stored in the internal storage! Everything else is stored in the sd card ( including games data ) . So i would recomend you let android market restore your apps and then transfer everything else to your sd. Hope i've helped and sorry for my english
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Use titanium backup (free from the market) to backup your apps and games to your Vibrant's SD Card, copy the whole titanium backup folder to your Sensation's sdcard and restore.
so i have trasfered the titanium backup folder from the Vibrant to the Sensation. Also installed Titanium backup app. when i go into the Titanium backup app, and click batch to restore my apps from the vibrant, under the option to restore my backups it does not say i have any apps backed up...
any help?
EDIT: nvm, figured it out. the back up folder was in another folder. i had to move it to the root of the SD card
Hey KB
let me know if that guide I wrote works for you
To answer your questions:
- 3GB of the 4GB internal storage is "reserved" for the system (not including downloaded apps). Seeing as how most ROMs are around 350MB this seems wasteful. You have 1.05GB user accessible storage for Apps.
- You 8GB SD card is actually calculated as 8 billion bytes (base 10), but since your computer uses binary it's actually around 7.5GB. The manufacturer reports it as 8GB out of misrepresentation. It's a longstanding issue with all sorts of storage. You'll be even more pissed off if you buy a 2TB drive
-4G is 3G. Well for most carriers anyway. TRUE 4G is LTE/Wimax, which is a different hardware radio. This is not a TRUE 4G phone. It's actually a 3.5G phone (HSPA+) and that spec reaches "4G speeds" theoretically, according to PR. In reality, you won't get those speeds. More lies.
RoboDan918 said:
Hey KB
let me know if that guide I wrote works for you
To answer your questions:
- 3GB of the 4GB internal storage is "reserved" for the system (not including downloaded apps). Seeing as how most ROMs are around 350MB this seems wasteful. You have 1.05GB user accessible storage for Apps.
- You 8GB SD card is actually calculated as 8 billion bytes (base 10), but since your computer uses binary it's actually around 7.5GB. The manufacturer reports it as 8GB out of misrepresentation. It's a longstanding issue with all sorts of storage. You'll be even more pissed off if you buy a 2TB drive
-4G is 3G. Well for most carriers anyway. TRUE 4G is LTE/Wimax, which is a different hardware radio. This is not a TRUE 4G phone. It's actually a 3.5G phone (HSPA+) and that spec reaches "4G speeds" theoretically, according to PR. In reality, you won't get those speeds. More lies.
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your guide worked great! thanks!
the problem was my computer. finally tried a third computer that worked.
thanks!
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've been pretty regular on the forums and searched a few times now and not found anything. When I had the HTC Desire which had limited internal memory, with S Off the partitions could be changed to suit what rom you were using, so space wasn't wasted which originally was used for the huge stock rom.
The main reason I sold my first htc one s almost a year ago was that I used up the 9gb of available space very fast. I've always had just a 16gb sd card in the rest of my phones and never ran out of space so far. I waited until the HTC One S got s off before I considered getting it again. Now I got a $100 used One S which I'm really happy with, rooted and S off and it's working great, but it looks like there is no possibility of ever getting that wasted space in the memory card so I can fit more music and pictures/videos on here.
Can someone confirm that there is no way, or chance at some time being a way to do this? I'm going to stick with the One S anyway because I love it otherwise, maybe I will have to get a usb otg cable and small flash drive and store extra music that way?
Thanks.
Theoretically, it can be done but it has not (yet) been done.
It is a dangerous thing to experiment with; you can realistically only play around with that if you have the means to revive a brick. Also, in case of the One-S it doesn't make as much sense as on the Desire. (I have a Bravo-PVT-1 as well.)
The Desire had waaay too little space for apps and app data. Moving relatively little space from system and cache to data made a lot of difference and was a huge benefit.
The One-S has enough space for apps and app data. The extra space we could theoretically move from system and data to sdcard would be well under 2G. Much less of a benefit.
9.6G is not much but neither is 11G, so not much of an incentive. But no, I can not confirm that there is no way never ever.
-Jobo
That's too bad. For me personally there is way more space than I will ever need for apps. Not sure but I assume even the sense based Roms like the viper Rom I've got now use less space than stock.
I think this phone needs the repartitioning more than the desire did.
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Maybe you can try this.
It's not really partitioning, but can give you more space.
Hey this problem might have already been solved, but its driving me crazy. My internal memory says it is completely full yet my app storage doesn't equal the amount it is saying. My phones memory is saying I have less than one GB left. I just don't understand. It's been like this for a while. I'm running 4.2.2 dirty unicorn rom btw.
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jwphillips1417 said:
Hey this problem might have already been solved, but its driving me crazy. My internal memory says it is completely full yet my app storage doesn't equal the amount it is saying. My phones memory is saying I have less than one GB left. I just don't understand. It's been like this for a while. I'm running 4.2.2 dirty unicorn rom btw.
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Mine is that way too.... Now I am trying to move stuff to the SD card and it's not letting me... I got all my music and a bunch of other stuff moved over to the SD card and now I have like 65% free space.... BUT there wasn't that much data moved so I don't understand, like you mine didn't equal what it was saying either.
I'm having a problem like this as well. Im guessing whenever I install a new ROM, for some reason it creates a directory on the root of the internal storage that looks like a backup of all my old files (I cant seem to find it now, of course). Regardless, I just got done freeing up around 600MB of data, but cannot for the life of me figure out where all the rest of this 11.4GB of data is being stored. All my music, apps, pictures, videos are all stored on my external SD.
I'm having this issue as well. I just flashed paranoid to my friends phone now internal storage is only using a few hundred meg yet there is only 7gb free. should be almost 12gb free. I will continue looking into this, hopefully someone figures this out if I cant