Hey everybody, i have a mytouch 3g for a couple months now and i'm noticing that the keyboard in landscape is sluggish sometimes. Maybe thats because i have too many apps or what not. But i was thinking (for a while now), maybe i should just root it to get apps to sd. But i'm afraid to brick it or damage it. I also have the standard 4 gig card it came with and i'm not sure about if its enough or about the whole partition thing. Plus, i don;t want to lose my contacts, and pictures, and videos, etc. What do you guys think?
ilya124 said:
Hey everybody, i have a mytouch 3g for a couple months now and i'm noticing that the keyboard in landscape is sluggish sometimes. Maybe thats because i have too many apps or what not. But i was thinking (for a while now), maybe i should just root it to get apps to sd. But i'm afraid to brick it or damage it. I also have the standard 4 gig card it came with and i'm not sure about if its enough or about the whole partition thing. Plus, i don;t want to lose my contacts, and pictures, and videos, etc. What do you guys think?
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contacts are stored on your google account in the cloud, pictures and videos can be backed up to the pc. Rooting with cyanogen or super d would be a good idea. the best guide in my opinion is on: theunlockr.com
But is the standard card that came with it good enough for root, and why do i need to partition it? I'm just scared about ruining the phone and not getting a new one under warranty. ?
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But is the standard card that came with it good enough for root, and why do i need to partition it? I'm just scared about ruining the phone and not getting a new one under warranty. ?
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don't worry about the sd card side of things for the moment. it's totally optional and the two extra partitions are for moving your apps to the sd card to free up space - shouldn't actually be an issue on a mt3g as it has more storage than the g21 anyway, and adding a swap partition to 'increase' the ram - only used on some roms, mainly hero ones, and not strictly necessary. i would recommend, folloing the many guides on here and theunlockr to get a custom recovery and flashing either WG or superD - don't worry about the talk of danger spl or upgrading your radio - again, that's just for g1 users.
you should see a massive speed increase without the need to partition your card. if you then feel the need to do it anyway, make sure you're using a fast one (ideally class 6, but class 4 will do at a push) and use the amon RA recovery (remember to flash the mt3g one on your phone and not the g1 one) - there's an option on there that will do it all for you.
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I'm in the process of deciding whether I get the Inspire or wait for the Infuse. I'm new to smart phones, but been reading a ton.
My question; is the 4 GB on the Inspire sufficient for the numerous apps I am likely to put on it? I think I've read about apps that let you place apps on the mSD. Is this even a concern I need to worry about?
Thanks for the help. Searched the forum and didn't see this addressed. Probably means it's a dumb question. I'm trying to get smart
Unless your going to have a couple hundred apps you shouldnt really worry to much.
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I've downloaded plenty of apps and never even gotten close to using up the internal memory. I move what I can to the SD card, usually (it's not hard to do, and it's a feature built into the phone now).
Ditto, you'd have to work pretty hard to fill up that space, most programs are pretty small. But remember that many applications now support the A2SD function, so in the unlikely event that you start running out of room, moving them to your SD card is an option. I notice very little performance difference between apps on the card and apps run internally.
Is it really worth upgrading from the amaze to the one s??!!
Probably not unless you REALLY have to have ICS right away and the upgraded camera hardware. I'd say wait until you're upgrade eligible, unless you are now, in which case I'd probably upgrade cause I really like this phone.
Veras1996 said:
Is it really worth upgrading from the amaze to the one s??!!
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When you call it an UPGRADE then yes it's worth it
It's a lot more future proof than the Amaze IMO, probably going to have a lot more development as well.
How can a such high caliber HTC One S lacks a microSD slot? Don't know about you guys but the available ~12Gb or so just AIN'T enough.
xxxman999 said:
How can a such high caliber HTC One S lacks a microSD slot? Don't know about you guys but the available ~12Gb or so just AIN'T enough.
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why should u bet all your music collection in your phone, when u wont listen to all of it anyway?
ATM I have 8gb sdcard, and still 1gb left + alot of music I dont even listen to. I could easy free up even more space...
Just dont take "all the ****s" with you, Change music in your phone time by time instead of taking it all with you and just "skip -> skip -> skip -> 5x skip -> ok this is nice song"
if you bought premium navigation, 16GB is not enough.
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if you bought premium navigation, 16GB is not enough.
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from name I understand its some kind of GPS where maps are saved on your sdcard?
If so, Im using mapdroyid which also saved maps on my sdcard, still have free space.
Im wondering, with no sd card, how will rooting and installing roms/backups and what not work now.
I mean, when you have to wipe the phone, youre gonna have to copy all that stuff on the phone to a PC and then move it back later?
Thats one of the things that made me iffy on the one s.
Storage isnt an issue... it comes with 25gb drobox space, You can take all your stuff with you..
And are you really gunna need 12gb worth of pics and music and whatever on your phone ?? As said above its easy to just swap stuff over, Load it back to dropbox and download something else. Keep it fresh
And i think its silly they dont have an SD slot, But look how thin this device is ! its soo slim, compromises had to be made..
And when you do a wipe, Unless you wipe internal SD card, (which you dont need to when doing a 'wipe') all your media will remain, Only the partition that keeps apps and data will be wiped. So again, Its no big deal..
Look at the potential this phone has, when development starts, nothing is gonna keep this bad boy down
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azzledazzle is wright, but you can also wipe the sd partition and then mount usb storage to copy files on it (rom...gapps) from cwm recovery. I did that on Nexus S last night.
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And when you do a wipe, Unless you wipe internal SD card, (which you dont need to when doing a 'wipe') all your media will remain, Only the partition that keeps apps and data will be wiped. So again, Its no big deal..
Look at the potential this phone has, when development starts, nothing is gonna keep this bad boy down
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potentdro said:
Im wondering, with no sd card, how will rooting and installing roms/backups and what not work now.
I mean, when you have to wipe the phone, youre gonna have to copy all that stuff on the phone to a PC and then move it back later?
Thats one of the things that made me iffy on the one s.
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I think people are getting too much of a hard on for Krait. Yes, the S4 soc is amazing. But there are plenty of downers to this phone already.
1) HTC's amazing track record with batteries... Don't get me wrong, love HTC... but omg I've had to replace batteries on several phones after a year. Much nicer when you can just pay $20 for a chinese battery off amazon that works wonders as opposed to having to get the phone serviced.
I mean, honestly, why couldn't the phone have been build like the Sensation/Amaze and lift off that awesome aluminum back?
2) T-Mobile's coverage and the 25 GB of cloud storage - Depending on where you live, this 25gb is gonna SUCK because you can't access it worth a damn.
Though to be fare, everyone who's said "Just swap out your data" is completely right. You don't NEED 32gb of storage on your phone unless you want to be all "Hey, look at all the **** I've got." Which is something the cult of Apple has nurtured in a lot of people through iTunes.
3) Bottleneck - The parts are better than the software they run on. Honestly, this isn't a gaming PC. This isn't a PC at all. You can't just keep throwing higher and higher end parts into a phone expecting it to work better, you hit a performance plateau. Beyond benchmarks, we are starting to see android's limits at this point in standard use. I honestly feel that the HTC Sensation and Amaze are the best Gingerbread and ICS will offer in phones. Everything else is just stylish masturbation.
4) The Micro Arc Oxidation treatment has been shown to not be as durable on some phones as it should be. I've seen a couple blogs and several owners attest to this. If I can't have my HTC One S with that kickass plasma treatment and red accents without it flaking off I don't want it at all
Really guys, the Amaze (and it's lil bro the Sensation) are both great phones. If you don't mind taking the time to upgrade the sensation to a sensation xe rom you can get a very stable 1.5-1.7 ghz overclock and the Amaze battery fits in it, leaving you with one very very nice piece of machine. I got one to replace a busted Amaze and it runs very nice and I almost don't want to use my Amaze again now that it's fixed...
But back on to the One S... It's pretty, but it's really just HTC's one up of the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX. Don't give in to the stylistic oneupmanship, just hold off and get the next monster they put out. I guarantee you we will see a monster of a phone in a few months that will basically be the next Amaze.
It's small and stylish. Feels great to hold in the hand as opposed to the other giants HTC has released during the years. Why all so called "flagship" models must have ridiculous screen sizes is beyond my understanding - the One S fits right in where it belongs and I think the upgrade is more on the aesthetic side than anything...
Like the above poster, I don't think that the storage space is an issue at all. (Coming previously from a Galaxy S 8gb model which I never really maxed out) and use the cloud if you need the space, hell it's even recommended why wouldn't you want your stuff sync'd all the time? I don't really see the point in having on board storage that I can't backup 24/7 anyway and with today's free data plans, most of us don't care for storing things locally.
But that's just my 2c.
azzledazzle said:
Storage isnt an issue... it comes with 25gb drobox space, You can take all your stuff with you..
And are you really gunna need 12gb worth of pics and music and whatever on your phone ?? As said above its easy to just swap stuff over, Load it back to dropbox and download something else. Keep it fresh
And i think its silly they dont have an SD slot, But look how thin this device is ! its soo slim, compromises had to be made..
And when you do a wipe, Unless you wipe internal SD card, (which you dont need to when doing a 'wipe') all your media will remain, Only the partition that keeps apps and data will be wiped. So again, Its no big deal..
Look at the potential this phone has, when development starts, nothing is gonna keep this bad boy down
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What about when you're somewhere where theres no service or limited service. Viewing, transferring or downloading from dropbox will be impossible.
Or how about this senerio, starting to have to start saving our best, most intimate photos, important files to dropbox because you're already out of space in internal storage and dropbox crashes. Everything lost, forever.
No SD card slot for expandable storage is ridiculous.
For me it makes perfect sense. All my music is streamed through our Subsonic server, pictures auto update to a private G+ album, docs are on Gdocs.
If I'm going to the mountains I just preload some music and I'm good to go.
Physical storage is dying; long live the cloud
coupetastic-droid said:
What about when you're somewhere where theres no service or limited service. Viewing, transferring or downloading from dropbox will be impossible.
Or how about this senerio, starting to have to start saving our best, most intimate photos, important files to dropbox because you're already out of space in internal storage and dropbox crashes. Everything lost, forever.
No SD card slot for expandable storage is ridiculous.
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familiarstranger said:
For me it makes perfect sense. All my music is streamed through our Subsonic server, pictures auto update to a private G+ album, docs are on Gdocs.
If I'm going to the mountains I just preload some music and I'm good to go.
Physical storage is dying; long live the cloud
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I agree wholeheartedly. I get why people don't like the cloud but I have never had any issues with cloud storage. I also use Subsonic to stream my music and it works great. The Subsonic app also caches music on my phone so if I have a bad connection I still have tunes. Also, I have no problem uploading my pictures and everything to Dropbox. Honestly, the lack of storage doesn't concern me at all.
coupetastic-droid said:
What about when you're somewhere where theres no service or limited service. Viewing, transferring or downloading from dropbox will be impossible.
Or how about this senerio, starting to have to start saving our best, most intimate photos, important files to dropbox because you're already out of space in internal storage and dropbox crashes. Everything lost, forever.
No SD card slot for expandable storage is ridiculous.
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surely you wont need 8GB+ storage for one day ?? you must have access to a computer where you can swap files and remove some stuff you wont be using ?
if the storage is such a problem for you... dont get the One S.. get something else
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surely you wont need 8GB+ storage for one day ?? you must have access to a computer where you can swap files and remove some stuff you wont be using ?
if the storage is such a problem for you... dont get the One S.. get something else
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My device is my computer. Why would I need to be around a PC to swap files back and forth. Why go through that hassle with a mobile device? Then what would be that point of a mobile device?
Yea, you're right. I won't be going for the one s for sure. Amaze will be a better choice.
Mobile devices suppost to help by having data with you, but it cannot replace PC if u want all ur things with u then it wont be so mobile anymore, thats why ppl make cloud storage and cloud computing
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I understand this device has a rather limited amount of available space. I was wondering if anyone could give me an estimate to how much data is available after factory startup. Thank you!
Also, is all memory included as part of this '16gigs', such as sd card stuff, apps, and the ROM? Thanks again! Just want to find out what EXACT space I am working with here when I get this device
4 gb reserved for system, 2 gb for apps. Available storage = 10 gb. Yeah its that bad.
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Damn that is bad! Really making me reconsider but I would rather have this than GSiii. Thanks, from a fellow Chicagoan
I have no use for MORE than 10 gigs in a phone. Quite frankly, I utilize some minor space on Dropbox as well.
If I need more space than 10gigs, I have a couple hard drives for that.
I'm sure we'll have easy access to USB host at some point, which will work for me. I mainly want the extra space for nandroids, app backups and pictures without using Dropbox for everything. I don't use my phone for movies (all on my tablet) and no storage needed for Google Music, but still worried that I'll fill up the 10gigs. Had 16 gb card in my HD2 and that was pretty much always full.
Hey this problem might have already been solved, but its driving me crazy. My internal memory says it is completely full yet my app storage doesn't equal the amount it is saying. My phones memory is saying I have less than one GB left. I just don't understand. It's been like this for a while. I'm running 4.2.2 dirty unicorn rom btw.
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jwphillips1417 said:
Hey this problem might have already been solved, but its driving me crazy. My internal memory says it is completely full yet my app storage doesn't equal the amount it is saying. My phones memory is saying I have less than one GB left. I just don't understand. It's been like this for a while. I'm running 4.2.2 dirty unicorn rom btw.
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Mine is that way too.... Now I am trying to move stuff to the SD card and it's not letting me... I got all my music and a bunch of other stuff moved over to the SD card and now I have like 65% free space.... BUT there wasn't that much data moved so I don't understand, like you mine didn't equal what it was saying either.
I'm having a problem like this as well. Im guessing whenever I install a new ROM, for some reason it creates a directory on the root of the internal storage that looks like a backup of all my old files (I cant seem to find it now, of course). Regardless, I just got done freeing up around 600MB of data, but cannot for the life of me figure out where all the rest of this 11.4GB of data is being stored. All my music, apps, pictures, videos are all stored on my external SD.
I'm having this issue as well. I just flashed paranoid to my friends phone now internal storage is only using a few hundred meg yet there is only 7gb free. should be almost 12gb free. I will continue looking into this, hopefully someone figures this out if I cant