Is it really worth upgrading from the amaze to the one s??!!
Probably not unless you REALLY have to have ICS right away and the upgraded camera hardware. I'd say wait until you're upgrade eligible, unless you are now, in which case I'd probably upgrade cause I really like this phone.
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Is it really worth upgrading from the amaze to the one s??!!
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When you call it an UPGRADE then yes it's worth it
It's a lot more future proof than the Amaze IMO, probably going to have a lot more development as well.
How can a such high caliber HTC One S lacks a microSD slot? Don't know about you guys but the available ~12Gb or so just AIN'T enough.
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How can a such high caliber HTC One S lacks a microSD slot? Don't know about you guys but the available ~12Gb or so just AIN'T enough.
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why should u bet all your music collection in your phone, when u wont listen to all of it anyway?
ATM I have 8gb sdcard, and still 1gb left + alot of music I dont even listen to. I could easy free up even more space...
Just dont take "all the ****s" with you, Change music in your phone time by time instead of taking it all with you and just "skip -> skip -> skip -> 5x skip -> ok this is nice song"
if you bought premium navigation, 16GB is not enough.
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if you bought premium navigation, 16GB is not enough.
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from name I understand its some kind of GPS where maps are saved on your sdcard?
If so, Im using mapdroyid which also saved maps on my sdcard, still have free space.
Im wondering, with no sd card, how will rooting and installing roms/backups and what not work now.
I mean, when you have to wipe the phone, youre gonna have to copy all that stuff on the phone to a PC and then move it back later?
Thats one of the things that made me iffy on the one s.
Storage isnt an issue... it comes with 25gb drobox space, You can take all your stuff with you..
And are you really gunna need 12gb worth of pics and music and whatever on your phone ?? As said above its easy to just swap stuff over, Load it back to dropbox and download something else. Keep it fresh
And i think its silly they dont have an SD slot, But look how thin this device is ! its soo slim, compromises had to be made..
And when you do a wipe, Unless you wipe internal SD card, (which you dont need to when doing a 'wipe') all your media will remain, Only the partition that keeps apps and data will be wiped. So again, Its no big deal..
Look at the potential this phone has, when development starts, nothing is gonna keep this bad boy down
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azzledazzle is wright, but you can also wipe the sd partition and then mount usb storage to copy files on it (rom...gapps) from cwm recovery. I did that on Nexus S last night.
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And when you do a wipe, Unless you wipe internal SD card, (which you dont need to when doing a 'wipe') all your media will remain, Only the partition that keeps apps and data will be wiped. So again, Its no big deal..
Look at the potential this phone has, when development starts, nothing is gonna keep this bad boy down
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Im wondering, with no sd card, how will rooting and installing roms/backups and what not work now.
I mean, when you have to wipe the phone, youre gonna have to copy all that stuff on the phone to a PC and then move it back later?
Thats one of the things that made me iffy on the one s.
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I think people are getting too much of a hard on for Krait. Yes, the S4 soc is amazing. But there are plenty of downers to this phone already.
1) HTC's amazing track record with batteries... Don't get me wrong, love HTC... but omg I've had to replace batteries on several phones after a year. Much nicer when you can just pay $20 for a chinese battery off amazon that works wonders as opposed to having to get the phone serviced.
I mean, honestly, why couldn't the phone have been build like the Sensation/Amaze and lift off that awesome aluminum back?
2) T-Mobile's coverage and the 25 GB of cloud storage - Depending on where you live, this 25gb is gonna SUCK because you can't access it worth a damn.
Though to be fare, everyone who's said "Just swap out your data" is completely right. You don't NEED 32gb of storage on your phone unless you want to be all "Hey, look at all the **** I've got." Which is something the cult of Apple has nurtured in a lot of people through iTunes.
3) Bottleneck - The parts are better than the software they run on. Honestly, this isn't a gaming PC. This isn't a PC at all. You can't just keep throwing higher and higher end parts into a phone expecting it to work better, you hit a performance plateau. Beyond benchmarks, we are starting to see android's limits at this point in standard use. I honestly feel that the HTC Sensation and Amaze are the best Gingerbread and ICS will offer in phones. Everything else is just stylish masturbation.
4) The Micro Arc Oxidation treatment has been shown to not be as durable on some phones as it should be. I've seen a couple blogs and several owners attest to this. If I can't have my HTC One S with that kickass plasma treatment and red accents without it flaking off I don't want it at all
Really guys, the Amaze (and it's lil bro the Sensation) are both great phones. If you don't mind taking the time to upgrade the sensation to a sensation xe rom you can get a very stable 1.5-1.7 ghz overclock and the Amaze battery fits in it, leaving you with one very very nice piece of machine. I got one to replace a busted Amaze and it runs very nice and I almost don't want to use my Amaze again now that it's fixed...
But back on to the One S... It's pretty, but it's really just HTC's one up of the Galaxy Nexus and Razr MAXX. Don't give in to the stylistic oneupmanship, just hold off and get the next monster they put out. I guarantee you we will see a monster of a phone in a few months that will basically be the next Amaze.
It's small and stylish. Feels great to hold in the hand as opposed to the other giants HTC has released during the years. Why all so called "flagship" models must have ridiculous screen sizes is beyond my understanding - the One S fits right in where it belongs and I think the upgrade is more on the aesthetic side than anything...
Like the above poster, I don't think that the storage space is an issue at all. (Coming previously from a Galaxy S 8gb model which I never really maxed out) and use the cloud if you need the space, hell it's even recommended why wouldn't you want your stuff sync'd all the time? I don't really see the point in having on board storage that I can't backup 24/7 anyway and with today's free data plans, most of us don't care for storing things locally.
But that's just my 2c.
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Storage isnt an issue... it comes with 25gb drobox space, You can take all your stuff with you..
And are you really gunna need 12gb worth of pics and music and whatever on your phone ?? As said above its easy to just swap stuff over, Load it back to dropbox and download something else. Keep it fresh
And i think its silly they dont have an SD slot, But look how thin this device is ! its soo slim, compromises had to be made..
And when you do a wipe, Unless you wipe internal SD card, (which you dont need to when doing a 'wipe') all your media will remain, Only the partition that keeps apps and data will be wiped. So again, Its no big deal..
Look at the potential this phone has, when development starts, nothing is gonna keep this bad boy down
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What about when you're somewhere where theres no service or limited service. Viewing, transferring or downloading from dropbox will be impossible.
Or how about this senerio, starting to have to start saving our best, most intimate photos, important files to dropbox because you're already out of space in internal storage and dropbox crashes. Everything lost, forever.
No SD card slot for expandable storage is ridiculous.
For me it makes perfect sense. All my music is streamed through our Subsonic server, pictures auto update to a private G+ album, docs are on Gdocs.
If I'm going to the mountains I just preload some music and I'm good to go.
Physical storage is dying; long live the cloud
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What about when you're somewhere where theres no service or limited service. Viewing, transferring or downloading from dropbox will be impossible.
Or how about this senerio, starting to have to start saving our best, most intimate photos, important files to dropbox because you're already out of space in internal storage and dropbox crashes. Everything lost, forever.
No SD card slot for expandable storage is ridiculous.
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For me it makes perfect sense. All my music is streamed through our Subsonic server, pictures auto update to a private G+ album, docs are on Gdocs.
If I'm going to the mountains I just preload some music and I'm good to go.
Physical storage is dying; long live the cloud
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I agree wholeheartedly. I get why people don't like the cloud but I have never had any issues with cloud storage. I also use Subsonic to stream my music and it works great. The Subsonic app also caches music on my phone so if I have a bad connection I still have tunes. Also, I have no problem uploading my pictures and everything to Dropbox. Honestly, the lack of storage doesn't concern me at all.
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What about when you're somewhere where theres no service or limited service. Viewing, transferring or downloading from dropbox will be impossible.
Or how about this senerio, starting to have to start saving our best, most intimate photos, important files to dropbox because you're already out of space in internal storage and dropbox crashes. Everything lost, forever.
No SD card slot for expandable storage is ridiculous.
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surely you wont need 8GB+ storage for one day ?? you must have access to a computer where you can swap files and remove some stuff you wont be using ?
if the storage is such a problem for you... dont get the One S.. get something else
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surely you wont need 8GB+ storage for one day ?? you must have access to a computer where you can swap files and remove some stuff you wont be using ?
if the storage is such a problem for you... dont get the One S.. get something else
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My device is my computer. Why would I need to be around a PC to swap files back and forth. Why go through that hassle with a mobile device? Then what would be that point of a mobile device?
Yea, you're right. I won't be going for the one s for sure. Amaze will be a better choice.
Mobile devices suppost to help by having data with you, but it cannot replace PC if u want all ur things with u then it wont be so mobile anymore, thats why ppl make cloud storage and cloud computing
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Hey everybody, i have a mytouch 3g for a couple months now and i'm noticing that the keyboard in landscape is sluggish sometimes. Maybe thats because i have too many apps or what not. But i was thinking (for a while now), maybe i should just root it to get apps to sd. But i'm afraid to brick it or damage it. I also have the standard 4 gig card it came with and i'm not sure about if its enough or about the whole partition thing. Plus, i don;t want to lose my contacts, and pictures, and videos, etc. What do you guys think?
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Hey everybody, i have a mytouch 3g for a couple months now and i'm noticing that the keyboard in landscape is sluggish sometimes. Maybe thats because i have too many apps or what not. But i was thinking (for a while now), maybe i should just root it to get apps to sd. But i'm afraid to brick it or damage it. I also have the standard 4 gig card it came with and i'm not sure about if its enough or about the whole partition thing. Plus, i don;t want to lose my contacts, and pictures, and videos, etc. What do you guys think?
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contacts are stored on your google account in the cloud, pictures and videos can be backed up to the pc. Rooting with cyanogen or super d would be a good idea. the best guide in my opinion is on: theunlockr.com
But is the standard card that came with it good enough for root, and why do i need to partition it? I'm just scared about ruining the phone and not getting a new one under warranty. ?
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But is the standard card that came with it good enough for root, and why do i need to partition it? I'm just scared about ruining the phone and not getting a new one under warranty. ?
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don't worry about the sd card side of things for the moment. it's totally optional and the two extra partitions are for moving your apps to the sd card to free up space - shouldn't actually be an issue on a mt3g as it has more storage than the g21 anyway, and adding a swap partition to 'increase' the ram - only used on some roms, mainly hero ones, and not strictly necessary. i would recommend, folloing the many guides on here and theunlockr to get a custom recovery and flashing either WG or superD - don't worry about the talk of danger spl or upgrading your radio - again, that's just for g1 users.
you should see a massive speed increase without the need to partition your card. if you then feel the need to do it anyway, make sure you're using a fast one (ideally class 6, but class 4 will do at a push) and use the amon RA recovery (remember to flash the mt3g one on your phone and not the g1 one) - there's an option on there that will do it all for you.
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Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
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Ok, so i did search before i posted this and i even looked through all 5 of the similar threads that popped up when i wrote the title for this one but none of them answers my question so i'm posting...
Background:
I'm pretty new to Android, got a Dell Streak back in Oct '10, and loved it. Rooted, put DJ_Steve's StreakDroid on yada yada... Broke my streaks screen and got an Inspire from my Best Buy warranty.
Now, to root this Inspire it seems its a LOT more involved... Making a gold card etc.
My question:
When you reformat the SD card, what happens to all the folders that are on it? Do they get recreated or are they gone for good? Are they even that important? I noticed some Adobe, Yahoo folders, which i assume can be re-created easily once the apps are reinstalled/opened back up but others on there like dcim, Android, Data, etc etc that look to be more important. Do i need to do anything special or just hit reformat? I'm looking at making my included SD card the gold card and taking my Streaks old 16GB card and using it for day-to-day use. So i guess i'm just looking for any "gotchas".
Thanks in advance to anyone who offers their help.
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If any important data is in those folders, you should save them on your computer. For example, pictures in DCIM folder, music, videos.... or documents that you created..
While creating the gold card, the sd card will be formatted and you will lose all data.
After the phone is rooted, you can then format the card using the phone's "Format SD card" tool, and then use the card as normal.
All those folders will be recreated once those apps are installed.
Edit: Also, if you look in the Dev's section, there are tools that will help you with the whole process of rooting your phone.
Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
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Thanks Kirk! Yeah i've been reading up on the SuperOne Click and the Hacker Kit. Just trying to read and reread the stuff so i know what to expect. I'd like to watch the tutorial video for Super One Click but i'm at work and Youtube is blocked so i'll watch it at home tonight.
Just looking to see what one is easier and would give me the best chance of not royally screwing up my phone. I kinda get the gold card thing and what it does but seems so silly at the same time that i have to use an SD card and then put it away to use it for later if i decide i wanna go back to stock...
I guess the ease of hacking the Streak kinda spoiled me. Especially for my first Android phone
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Use a proxy site to be able to watch the video at your work place. Something like this --> http://www.proxeasy.com/webclient.aspx EDIT: Scratch that... This proxy site doesn't allow flash content unless you subscribe. Sorry. You can try other proxy sites
The inspire is my second android phone. I had the captivate and it was very easy to root. Prior to the captivate, I had the eyephone. So glad I went with an android phone. Sick and tired of the same UI with iphones.
Although the entire rooting process for the inspire seems overwhelming, it's actually pretty straight forward when you follow the instructions.
I haven't heard anyone "bricking" their inspire yet and if you get stuck in the rooting process, search the forums and you will most likely find your solution.
What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
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What route did you decide to use? The Hacker Kit or SuperOneClick?
Yeah i had a Captivate for about a month, it was just a loaner from AT&T until the Streak Come out. Previous to that i had the iPhone 3g as well. Hated playing in Steve's sandbox... and i abhor iTunes. I can't think of a bigger POS software.
I guess the Streak had its moments trying to root. I used the QDL tool which needed to be run through Fastboot with a couple commands. It was getting the damn Dell ABD driver running correctly on the PC which took the longest time.
Anyway, thanks for the info Kirk. I'll see if i can't get this thing cooked up tonight. I really wanna try CoreDroid, and get the battery life on this phone to a respectable level. If its just sitting in standby its ok, but as soon as you use it the percentages just tick away quite quickly.
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I used the hack kit. Went ok. Had some slight issue when i tried to use a 1GB SD card that apparently is too small for a gold card. So, then I decided to just use the SD card that came with the phone and all went well!
I also have to agree with hating itunes... They keep cramming useless features and just makes the whole user experience a little less interesting.
Im glad that with android devices, you don't need any specific program to sync your stuff to the phone... Just plug in and done!
I understand this device has a rather limited amount of available space. I was wondering if anyone could give me an estimate to how much data is available after factory startup. Thank you!
Also, is all memory included as part of this '16gigs', such as sd card stuff, apps, and the ROM? Thanks again! Just want to find out what EXACT space I am working with here when I get this device
4 gb reserved for system, 2 gb for apps. Available storage = 10 gb. Yeah its that bad.
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Damn that is bad! Really making me reconsider but I would rather have this than GSiii. Thanks, from a fellow Chicagoan
I have no use for MORE than 10 gigs in a phone. Quite frankly, I utilize some minor space on Dropbox as well.
If I need more space than 10gigs, I have a couple hard drives for that.
I'm sure we'll have easy access to USB host at some point, which will work for me. I mainly want the extra space for nandroids, app backups and pictures without using Dropbox for everything. I don't use my phone for movies (all on my tablet) and no storage needed for Google Music, but still worried that I'll fill up the 10gigs. Had 16 gb card in my HD2 and that was pretty much always full.
Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've been pretty regular on the forums and searched a few times now and not found anything. When I had the HTC Desire which had limited internal memory, with S Off the partitions could be changed to suit what rom you were using, so space wasn't wasted which originally was used for the huge stock rom.
The main reason I sold my first htc one s almost a year ago was that I used up the 9gb of available space very fast. I've always had just a 16gb sd card in the rest of my phones and never ran out of space so far. I waited until the HTC One S got s off before I considered getting it again. Now I got a $100 used One S which I'm really happy with, rooted and S off and it's working great, but it looks like there is no possibility of ever getting that wasted space in the memory card so I can fit more music and pictures/videos on here.
Can someone confirm that there is no way, or chance at some time being a way to do this? I'm going to stick with the One S anyway because I love it otherwise, maybe I will have to get a usb otg cable and small flash drive and store extra music that way?
Thanks.
Theoretically, it can be done but it has not (yet) been done.
It is a dangerous thing to experiment with; you can realistically only play around with that if you have the means to revive a brick. Also, in case of the One-S it doesn't make as much sense as on the Desire. (I have a Bravo-PVT-1 as well.)
The Desire had waaay too little space for apps and app data. Moving relatively little space from system and cache to data made a lot of difference and was a huge benefit.
The One-S has enough space for apps and app data. The extra space we could theoretically move from system and data to sdcard would be well under 2G. Much less of a benefit.
9.6G is not much but neither is 11G, so not much of an incentive. But no, I can not confirm that there is no way never ever.
-Jobo
That's too bad. For me personally there is way more space than I will ever need for apps. Not sure but I assume even the sense based Roms like the viper Rom I've got now use less space than stock.
I think this phone needs the repartitioning more than the desire did.
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Maybe you can try this.
It's not really partitioning, but can give you more space.
I'm trying to find out how you guys manage without a sdcard...do you carry a otg cable and usb stick always with you... Just asking if I should trade in my HTC ONE M8...for a OpP...Can you please explain....
I use air droid / es file manager to access file wireless.
I'm talking about your nandroids backups...and personal stuff incase I wanted to change roms.... My SdCard holds all my personal stuff and when I flash other roms to test ....my sdcard does not get touched...
^^ the one plus one has a "virtual" SDcard... which all data stays perstiant on between flashing...IIRC
So your saying is that this Virtual SDCard...uses up the 64gig that the unit comes with.???
not all 64...looking at my phone it says 54gb total
64 - UsedBySystem = More than enough
For Nandroid backups I use a USB Stick and then store it on the server, for pictures or so I use Airdroid.
Ok guys thanks...now the question...do I trade..my M8..to 1+1... Or wait for 1+2..
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I'm trying to find out how you guys manage without a sdcard...do you carry a otg cable and usb stick always with you... Just asking if I should trade in my HTC ONE M8...for a OpP...Can you please explain....
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I'm talking about your nandroids backups...and personal stuff incase I wanted to change roms.... My SdCard holds all my personal stuff and when I flash other roms to test ....my sdcard does not get touched...
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So your saying is that this Virtual SDCard...uses up the 64gig that the unit comes with.???
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As previously stated, your personal data is never wiped unless you actually do it yourself, this is standard for any device that doesn't use an external sd card. The 64gb overall storage is partitioned in such a way that you end up with about 55gb for yourself, with the rest taken up by the ROM and other system needs. And yes, I'd ditch the HTC for this phone in a heartbeat.
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Now to trade up thanks
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Thanks needed that extra explanation...
Now to trade up thanks
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Like everyone else stated, your files will remain untouched while flashing a new rom (unless and until u manually wipe them from recovery). I keep my nandroid on my phone itself, but i actually prefer having my OTG pendrive along with me all the time. i have made a backup of all my important files on it as well. reg jumping from M8 to the One, 1+2 is still some time away from us (late Q2 or maybe Q3 of 2015), so 1+1 is still your best bet. I had a nexus 5, sold it off to get 1+1. no regrets! heck, the lollipop roms here are as stable as the nexus 5 ones.
I had the S4, then M8, then nexus 5 (16gb). Didn't have the nexus that long, and sort of missed having the extra storage. But didn't miss the SD card coming to OPO as theres plenty with the 64gb version. If anything I'm more put off by 16 GB phone models even with the sd card. The nexus isn't too bad as it's pretty bloat free but with the 16gb S4 or M8 I was still mindful of the internal storage as you lose a fair amount for the OS and you can't move all apps to the SD. Hopefully manufacturers ditch the 16gb models soon. Even a 32gb model with and external SD would be fine, but 16gb feels a bit stingey these days.
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I had the S4, then M8, then nexus 5 (16gb). Didn't have the nexus that long, and sort of missed having the extra storage. But didn't miss the SD card coming to OPO as theres plenty with the 64gb version. If anything I'm more put off by 16 GB phone models even with the sd card. The nexus isn't too bad as it's pretty bloat free but with the 16gb S4 or M8 I was still mindful of the internal storage as you lose a fair amount for the OS and you can't move all apps to the SD. Hopefully manufacturers ditch the 16gb models soon. Even a 32gb model with and external SD would be fine, but 16gb feels a bit stingey these days.
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Absolutely. My last device was the 16gb HTC One XL and in reality you only end up with under 10gb user-accessible space, which gets used up pretty quickly.