I found a german page saying it does:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixm0zPvBLsY&feature=player_embedded
page http://allaboutsamsung.de/2012/08/s-pen-funktioniert-auch-am-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-10-1-video/
Is that right ?
splotz said:
I found a german page saying it does:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixm0zPvBLsY&feature=player_embedded
page http://allaboutsamsung.de/2012/08/s-pen-funktioniert-auch-am-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-10-1-video/
Is that right ?
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Though it works in the video, its clearly not working the same. Clearly he should be able to see this. Its just working like a capacitive stylus. The pressure sensitivity is not working.
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Though it works in the video, its clearly not working the same. Clearly he should be able to see this. Its just working like a capacitive stylus. The pressure sensitivity is not working.
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Even if that is the case, that's excellent because the spen has a very small nib for precision as opposed to the fat capacitive ones.
I didn't watch the video, but it certainly does not work as a capacitive stylus. It has a plastic tip. The screen doesn't even detect the tip touching it. It only detects where it is near the screen and uses the pressure sensor. For example, if you bring the pen near and push the tip with your finger, it will think that it touched the screen.
Could anyone try who have both Tablets ?
I have both. It doesn't work. If you look into the technology that makes the s pen it's obviously it won't work. That's why your s pen won't work with capacitive touch screens like the iPhone. The device needs to have an active digitizer.
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The display on the Note is inductive. The earlier Tabs are conductive. A conductive display won't recognize an inductive stylus. An inductive display will recognize a conductive stylus.
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The display on the Note is inductive. The earlier Tabs are conductive. A conductive display won't recognize an inductive stylus. An inductive display will recognize a conductive stylus.
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I hoped they build some of the new screens with s-technology also into the TAB 2 for some reasons...
So its only a coincident, or not true...
Thanks you for your answers
Actually Galaxy Notes have capacitive AND inductive touch screens - capacitive is for finger touch while inductive (Wacom) is for the pen.
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Actually Galaxy Notes have capacitive AND inductive touch screens - capacitive is for finger touch while inductive (Wacom) is for the pen.
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Actually it seems I misread the topic of the linked website
On the website they say its the Galaxy TAB 10.1 N which does use the active stylus too,
This page asked samsung an they said it true...
http://tblt.de/2012/08/galaxy-tab-2-10-1-funktioniert-s-pen-wacom-digitizer/
Well, but would be a bit slow compared to the quad core...
Wow, this is interesting. Maybe all Samsung tabs will have Wacom from now on?
Hey guys,
thanks for sharing my article and video, I am happy to find my content on xda.
As splotz clarified, this is a Tab 10.1N which is a special version for the German market, since Apple successfully banned the original 10.1 here. Unfortunately, other users cannot reproduce the S-Pen working with the 10.1N nor the Tab 2.
I contacted the developer (it's his Tab) and asked for screenshots of the Software version.
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Hey!
I really hope that this haven´t been asked already...I haven´t found an answer yet. Tell me, is there any possibility to get a digitizer working on this touchpad? I do not have any knowledge about the technical requirements for these active pens...
Y dont you just get a ipad pen type of pen?
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Hey!
I really hope that this haven´t been asked already...I haven´t found an answer yet. Tell me, is there any possibility to get a digitizer working on this touchpad? I do not have any knowledge about the technical requirements for these active pens...
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Do you mean a capacitive stylus? The screen is capacitive so only a capacitive stylus will work. Just check out ebay. Any stylus that works with an ipad, transformer, or iconia will work on the touchpad.
If you are thinking of something more like a Wacom tablet type 'active' digitizer, then no, they cannot work with a standard (capacitive only) device. They operate using a radio frequency system which has to be present both on the pen and on the tablet itself.
The bonus is improved accuracy and sensitivity for the device, the drawback being cost, a *screenless* wacom tablet using that technology is already a hundred dollars or more, and to combine it with a screen wacom charges a thousand dollars handily.
HTC has a compromise of a sort with the flyer tablet, but again thats a two part system, part of it is in the pen and part is engineered into the tablet itself.
Thats´what I meant (an active digitizer)...okay, thank you all for your help!!! In this case I have to find out, if such a capacitive pen runs well, but I´ve heard that the are not that good...
Thanks!
Dear developers,
This is my first post in xda and I apologize in advance if I posted this question in the wrong place.
I searched a lot in the internet to find a way to allow me to use the digitizer stylus (the same one available in Galaxy Note) on the screen of my galaxy tab 7 plus, but unfortunately with no luck.
The digitizer stylus is available in the market as a replacement of lost or damaged Galaxy Note stylus. Therefore, the stylus is not an issue. I really believe that the stylus should work on any capacitive touch screen of any android tablet if we succeed in extracting the Wacom driver, or software, from a Galaxy Note and install it to the tab.
I searched in Wacom website, but found drivers for windows and Mac only, nothing for android.
I also tried to locate the Wacom in Galaxy Note, with no success :'(
I hope anyone tried such thing and looking for someone to share the experience.
Thanks!
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I really believe that the stylus should work on any capacitive touch screen of any android tablet if we succeed in extracting the Wacom driver, or software, from a Galaxy Note and install it to the tab.
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If the Galaxy Note is anything like the conventional Wacom tablets, the hardware is primarily in the phone/tablet itself and not in the pen. If this is the case, your idea will not work.
You can, however, buy many styluses (styli?) that support capacitive touchscreens.
This is actual Wacom technology
Hello, you cannot use the S-Pen on non-Wacom screens because the stylus is not capacitive, but electromagnetic.
Using your finger, try pressing an UI element (like a widget, or a ListView item) so that you successfully select it. While the item is selected, slowly move the stylus down towards the screen. When it will be 1 cm away (or less) from the screen, the item you selected with your finger will get unselected. It is because the electromagnetic stylus has priority over your (“capacitive”) finger.
The fact that the stylus priority thing occurs even though the screen is not pressed with it, is a proof that the usual Wacom electromagnetic magic is in use in the Note.
i tried few pens, two different noname from China and Bamboo Stylus, but always the same problem.
i have to press quite hard on screen to get response.
on my phone sgs i9000 i just put the pen on screen and dragin it through screen i get one line, as i should. but on p5100 i have to press pen down and still if i don't press enough, i get no response.
well it's ok for typing, but for drawing i'm afraid to scratch screen in a short time.
anybody else have bad experience with pen on p5100?
could it be software issue?
I don't think the screen is made for use with a pen. The Galaxy Note is good for that. But I believe you can modify touch sensitivity in some way.
Send from my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
Joery360 said:
I don't think the screen is made for use with a pen. The Galaxy Note is good for that. But I believe you can modify touch sensitivity in some way.
Send from my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
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if there are pens made for captive screens and if it works perfect on i9000... just wanted to know what experience other have with their pens on p5100..
and regarding note: it uses wacom technology and my next tablet i think will have it
thanks anyway
Hello,
I was wondering what would be the best stylus to wrtite down notes with. I am looking for some decent performance,as I will be writing Chinese characters with it so accuracy matters. Never had a tablet so I really have no experience with this...
shaizil said:
Hello,
I was wondering what would be the best stylus to wrtite down notes with. I am looking for some decent performance,as I will be writing Chinese characters with it so accuracy matters. Never had a tablet so I really have no experience with this...
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I'm actually looking for a stylus too but since we don't have the ability to support active pens using hardware I'm also stuck in a pinch like you since I want to take notes using it. I'm planning on kickstarting
DotPen. I removed the link since I don't know if I'm allowed to post it here but do a quick search on kickstarter website or google and it should pop up (by Dot-Tec).
hopefully it turns out well. I considered getting the adonit ones but their support emailed me back saying they built it with apple products in mind and cannot tell me how well it would be on an android tablet
Well, I came acroos a company called Dagi, they seem to make products very similar to Adonit, only they work with android as well.... see here
and here
It seems like the Dagi is on par with its counterpart and even slightly better.
It makes way less noise when writing, which is important. The Adonit makes so much noise its ridiculous... it sounds like someone is doing the dishes. the Adonit Jot script also has this metal tip which makes too much noise when wrting,
Dagi is a bit cheaper as well.
Anyway, I would really rather have a soft tip stylus purely due to the noise factor and "feel". I don't want to feel like I am about to harm the screen.... maybe when a glass screen protector comes out.
I am also looking for a stylus for writing and drawing and I have taken a look at the Dagi and Adonit. While they both seem to work very well my fear for buying either is the multiple reviews from many different sites about them scratching the screen... I thought about getting a Zagg screen protector but then there are reviews stating that they do not work well with those and I don't want to risk reducing the screen quality using one.
Are these reviews unfounded or does anyone have any other suggestions?
Thank you,
Grev
I'm having good results with an inexpensive Targus metal-barreled capacitive stylus. It has the big rubber tip but I've adjusted to it. I would like to try one of the 3mm capacitive stylus.
I use an ikross which can be found on either ebay or Amazon for about $8.00 and come packs of two. Also check the Samsung c-pen which also works really well. The great thing about these tablets, is that they use the same screens as the galaxy s5, s4, s3 rather than led screens which are very temperamental on which capacitive stylus work.
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i defo recommend an adonit jot pro - gunmetal!
ladaqiyah said:
i defo recommend an adonit jot pro - gunmetal!
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Are you using that stylus on the "S"? I only ask as my next question is to find out if it is scratching the screen?
Well, this sucks. One of my favorite features of the s5 is being able to write on the screen with a normal pencil, pen, whatever I have handy. Despite having the same "increase touch sensitivity" option in the tab s display settings it really doesn't work at all. Not sure what the technological difference is...
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No Wacom = crap, no matter what stylus you use.
Samsung C Pen
I've been looking for an option with a fine tip myself and noticed that Samsung offered a C Pen for the Galaxy S3. Well, I decided to get it and try it on my Tab S 8.4. I can say that it works well on the screen straight up, meaning no screen protector. I added an Illumishield Blue Light screen protector on it and it works but not quite as well as without. There seems to bee a little bit of "sticking" instead of gliding smoothly across the screen. This is of course the screen protectors issue and not the pen. I will swap it out once there is a tempered glass version available.
I can use it as a pointer and tap to launch and do things. In S Note, it works very well. I'd even say it works better in S Note than it does in Evernote at this point.
I think this is going to work out well. After all, it does have just a 3mm tip so you can see what you're actually doing and it's not nearly as expensive as most styli that are available.
-Cyber
3M Smart Pen
Wacom bamboo stylus solo 2
But still hope for new galaxy note 8.4 with an amoled screen.
I am using a simple capacitive stylus from Hama for EUR 4,99. Seems to be similar to the Bamboo solo. Works perfektly for taping. I had to set touch sensitivity to high in settings to use it reliably at quick swyping. Works like a charm then. Much better for my needs than inductive pens (have several other Tablets with those).
Disk stylus are fine for precise constructing and diagramming. For scribbling and most other regular work a simpler soft end stylus such as bamboo is better, imho.
there are many active stylus out there.
Apple_nut said:
I just ordered the Dart stylus which has a 2 mm fine tip and works with all the latest Windows, Android and Apple devices. It has ultra-precise tips to produce a fine line for drawing or sketching.
I need to take a lot of notes during the day as a physician and reading the online reviews of this stylus sold me hands down.
You can find it by googline the DART STYLUS FROM PRECISION TOUCH
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Samsung Galaxy S3 Galaxy C-Pen Stylus Pen works perfectly
The Samsung Galaxy S3 Galaxy C-Pen Stylus Pen works perfectly with the 8.4" Tab S. Though the product specs say it works only on S3, I tried it with the Tab S and it just glided.
The pen looks premium with a metal body and a hard tip. The hard tip gives it a nice feel while writing as compared to the usual hollow rubber tips.
http://www.ebay.com/gds/Samsung-ETC-...5756258/g.html
I found it lying in the corner in a mobile accessory shop and the shopkeeper was happy to get rid of the old stock for $15. Look around and you may find one.
It seems 'active stylus' is the future for all non-wacom devices.
Search for 'active stylus for ipad'. Add 'for ipad' for filtering out many wacom like products.
shaizil said:
Hello,
I was wondering what would be the best stylus to wrtite down notes with. I am looking for some decent performance,as I will be writing Chinese characters with it so accuracy matters. Never had a tablet so I really have no experience with this...
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http://hex3.co/products/nota
vulcanvillalta said:
That is a nice stylus, but a little overpriced, don't you think?
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No, I don't. If you want cheap, you can go out and buy a standard stylus with a huge nib that won't let you draw (or write) with any real precision. There are plenty of those available on the market.
If you want quality, you have to pay for it. That's what you did buying this tablet, right?
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Like another poster previously suggested, a cheaper (but still good) alternative would be Samsung's C-Pen. You can get one for about $25-$30 on eBay.
Anyone else have experience with this pen on the Tab S?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/251599913793?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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GenghisKhan67 said:
http://hex3.co/products/nota
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This will be another option to consider and a nice one. Thanks for posting it.:highfive:
Hi, I bought the Lenovo precision pen 2. It works fine but it doesn't capture in an accurate manner what I write or paint. When I try to do the shape of an eye for example, the line isn't smooth and curved (see photo). Is this a problem with the tablet or the pen?
I thought it's Wacom fault.
Mine has similar problem and makes writing difficult.
When I use the pen for scrolling, I notice it's like stop and go
However, Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus doesn't have such problem with P11 Pro
mingkee said:
I thought it's Wacom fault.
Mine has similar problem and makes writing difficult.
When I use the pen for scrolling, I notice it's like stop and go
However, Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus doesn't have such problem with P11 Pro
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Sorry, basically you said that the lenovo precision pen gives you trouble? In all other fields the pen functions well, just not in writing or painting
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Sorry, basically you said that the lenovo precision pen gives you trouble? In all other fields the pen functions well, just not in writing or painting
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I don't have Precision Pen 2 because it's not available in US
I bought Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus instead.
I thought it doesn't fully compatible with P11+ and Yoga Tab 11, but now I suspect Precision Pen 2 and Bamboo Ink Plus are the same
mingkee said:
I don't have Precision Pen 2 because it's not available in US
I bought Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus instead.
I thought it doesn't fully compatible with P11+ and Yoga Tab 11, but now I suspect Precision Pen 2 and Bamboo Ink Plus are the same
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Theres a video in youtube suggesting that the nibs (tips) are the same. Sorry theres some info missing on your prior message i think. you ment that you have both the p11 plus and pro and you only had a problem on the plus? Im replacing the pen so well se. Its a pitty to return the tablet, its pretty nice
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Theres a video in youtube suggesting that the nibs (tips) are the same. Sorry theres some info missing on your prior message i think. you ment that you have both the p11 plus and pro and you only had a problem on the plus? Im replacing the pen so well se. Its a pitty to return the tablet, its pretty nice
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I have just found Precision Pen 2 and I ordered it, but it may take 2-3 weeks to ship.
Stay tuned for update.
Besides pen, P11+ is actually a good tablet for the price and there's a Motorola version as well (G70).
I suspect it's firmware issue can it can be corrected. If same problem happens on my forthcoming Precision Pen 2, I will tell the issue to Lenovo support to correct it.
Yes, Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus works 100% with P11 Pro. You should switch to Pro if writing does matter.
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I have just found Precision Pen 2 and I ordered it, but it may take 2-3 weeks to ship.
Stay tuned for update.
Besides pen, P11+ is actually a good tablet for the price and there's a Motorola version as well (G70).
I suspect it's firmware issue can it can be corrected. If same problem happens on my forthcoming Precision Pen 2, I will tell the issue to Lenovo support to correct it.
Yes, Wacom Bamboo Ink Plus works 100% with P11 Pro. You should switch to Pro if writing does matter.
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Good luck. Ill probably replace to xiaomi pad 5 because of the pwm in the pro.
Edit: the problem was the screen glass protector
sltwtrr said:
Good luck. Ill probably replace to xiaomi pad 5 because of the pwm in the pro.
Edit: the problem was the screen glass protector
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Glad I found this thread...
I bought a Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 7, it comes with the Precision Pen 2... Since the very first moment I put a screen protector, and when tried the pen for the first time I realized that when drawing diagonals lines they were all "wavy" (as the red lines in the screenshot attached), the weird thing is that only for diagonals, the "straight" ones are drawn well, the same happened to you? I wanna believe it's the screen protector and not a faulty screen or pen... I should remove the screen protector to test but I had a hard time getting one for this model here in Spain haha.
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Glad I found this thread...
I bought a Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 7, it comes with the Precision Pen 2... Since the very first moment I put a screen protector, and when tried the pen for the first time I realized that when drawing diagonals lines they were all "wavy" (as the red lines in the screenshot attached), the weird thing is that only for diagonals, the "straight" ones are drawn well, the same happened to you? I wanna believe it's the screen protector and not a faulty screen or pen... I should remove the screen protector to test but I had a hard time getting one for this model here in Spain haha.
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Lol. Keep us updated. Good luck
markoscc said:
Glad I found this thread...
I bought a Lenovo Yoga 9i Gen 7, it comes with the Precision Pen 2... Since the very first moment I put a screen protector, and when tried the pen for the first time I realized that when drawing diagonals lines they were all "wavy" (as the red lines in the screenshot attached), the weird thing is that only for diagonals, the "straight" ones are drawn well, the same happened to you? I wanna believe it's the screen protector and not a faulty screen or pen... I should remove the screen protector to test but I had a hard time getting one for this model here in Spain haha.
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You're not alone
Mine (both P11+ and Yoga Tab 11) have similar issue while the pen works perfectly with Yoga Tab 13
I have a p11 plus and the precision pen 2. My lines are all slightly wavy, unless I make the line very fast! I suspect the firmware needs to be worked out.
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I have a p11 plus and the precision pen 2. My lines are all slightly wavy, unless I make the line very fast! I suspect the firmware needs to be worked out.
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I few days ago I removed a screen protector I had since day one on my Lenovo Yoga (9i Gen 7)... I it turned out that the screen protector was causing the wavy lines, now it works lovely, as it should.
I have no screen protector. The wavyness is bad as the OP. Just annoying.
I have a p11 and the precision pen 2
writing and drawing is difficult because the lines are not following my strokes
will remove the screen protector to see if the situation improves...
... so yes, on Bamboo Paper (Notes) the capturing of my strokes dramatically improved.
With Paper Draw the capturing of my strokes is less accurate ...
So, it looks as if there is also a difference is results, depending what app is used...
PS: Sketchbook on Lenovo p11 with Precision Pen2 -> very good results
I saw this thread earlier and decided to remove my glass screen protector and now the pen works great, but I was thinking to put a plastic screen protector will the pen freak-out again ?