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My brain is about to explode i cant'd decide!!!

I just purchased a tf700 2days ago and i love it but always wishing it to have a pen digitizer , now that the galaxy note 10.1 is already available at bestbuy , the same place where i purchase my tf700 i'm going to return it and get the samsung. I really like the resolution on the asus but the productivity samsung offers using the digitizer is something thats hard to resist. I'm also using an ipad3 so i know how hard to go back to a low resolution like the samsung.
Is it a good move to replace it or just keep it?

mywingtophone said:
I just purchased a tf700 2days ago and i love it but always wishing it to have a pen digitizer , now that the galaxy note 10.1 is already available at bestbuy , the same place where i purchase my tf700 i'm going to return it and get the samsung. I really like the resolution on the asus but the productivity samsung offers using the digitizer is something thats hard to resist. I'm also using an ipad3 so i know how hard to go back to a low resolution like the samsung.
Is it a good move to replace it or just keep it?
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Well, I think the Infinity with the keyboard dock (and a wireless mouse) is a super productivity device. I can't really see making that much use of the pen digitizer, so for me it's a no brainer...I would keep the Infinity. But it depends on what you think you'd get more use out of.
Good luck.

I am in the same position as the OP except I have both of them sitting next to me at home. What to do, What to do!

why not read thru the thread thats about 2 threads down from this one which is about the Infinity v. The Note?
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mtunender said:
I am in the same position as the OP except I have both of them sitting next to me at home. What to do, What to do!
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Since you have both....what do you prefer, screen resolution or battery life? Digitizer pen or a keyboard attachment? Plastic or aluminum shell? Use the devices and see which one preforms better.
You'll need to make the choice.

A box of 10 capacitive stylus is available at Ebay for $3, problem solved!

I say go with the Infinity, Samsung's update track record is horrible, and the plastic build quality is lacking compared to the Aluminum shell on the Infinity.

timrock said:
why not read thru the thread thats about 2 threads down from this one which is about the Infinity v. The Note?
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Read them all. Probably twice.

tedr44 said:
A box of 10 capacitive stylus is available at Ebay for $3, problem solved!
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You guys really need to do some research. You're comparing apples to oranges.
I traded my Nexus for the Note on Friday and immediately fell in love. Of course, there are a few things I would change about the Note – there are a few things I would change about every smartphone. Aside from being stuck on Gingerbread (with TouchWiz no less), though, I have very little to complain about. And after spending just shy of a week with the phablet, I'm surprised by how much I actually find myself using what I thought to be the least notable feature of the Note, the S Pen (stylus).
Being a stylus, granted it is far better than your typical capacitive stylus and comes with additional functionality (the button), I honestly never thought I would use it all that much. I had no reason to hate it, like most people do, but I figured it would stay in its slot in the back of the phone. I've had my fair share of capacitive styluses (styli?) and found them to be no better than a shaky, inaccurate finger.
I knew the S Pen was different, but I doubted it could be that much different or better. I had tried it in passing (with a few demo units at CES and with Aaron's Note during his challenge), but a few minutes with it really doesn't do the S Pen any justice or give the users the full scope of its abilities.
So what makes it so much better than your average stylus? For one, it isn't capacitive; it's inductive. Using a capacitive stylus, if you touch your hand to the display while trying to write, your palm may also make marks on the display or cause the application to zoom in or out. Since the S Pen is inductive, when it is in use, capacitive input is shut off entirely until the S Pen is lifted from the screen, so you can rest your palm on the display without worrying. But it also has a tiny point about the size of the tip of a ballpoint pen, like resistive styluses of yesteryear. Capacitive styluses come with either felt or rubber tips, making them big and inaccurate.
Like I said, I literally thought I would never use the S Pen. But the Note has replaced the Nexus as my primary device, and I have noticed that I'm using the S Pen almost every time I turn the device on – which is very often. Even if I don't use it, I pull the S Pen out when I flip the cover (I'm using the Samsung Flip Cover on my Note, pictured above) around back and have it ready to go if I need it for a screen shot or a quick note.
http://www.phonedog.com/2012/03/21/...re-useful-and-fun-than-i-thought-it-would-be/
http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_definitions_active_digitizer_guide.html

mywingtophone said:
I just purchased a tf700 2days ago and i love it but always wishing it to have a pen digitizer , now that the galaxy note 10.1 is already available at bestbuy , the same place where i purchase my tf700 i'm going to return it and get the samsung. I really like the resolution on the asus but the productivity samsung offers using the digitizer is something thats hard to resist. I'm also using an ipad3 so i know how hard to go back to a low resolution like the samsung.
Is it a good move to replace it or just keep it?
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Returning it is a dumb idea imo.. but hey it's you're choice
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yumms said:
Since you have both....what do you prefer, screen resolution or battery life? Digitizer pen or a keyboard attachment? Plastic or aluminum shell? Use the devices and see which one preforms better.
You'll need to make the choice.
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"Resolution or battery life" those sont fit because the tf700 has a longer battery life with the dock
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yumms said:
Since you have both....what do you prefer, screen resolution or battery life? Digitizer pen or a keyboard attachment? Plastic or aluminum shell? Use the devices and see which one preforms better.
You'll need to make the choice.
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I am charging them both to 100% before I really get into it with them.
What one do you think would have the better battery life?
The pen is a nice thing to have once and a while.
I will never buy the dock for the ASUS. I want a tablet not a mini computer.
The shell does not really matter to me. The Samsung does not really feel cheap or like it would break easily. If you drop one of them and it is damaged i am sure the other one would would not be in great shape either.
Is there a difference in the screen material?

Isn't having a Samsung and an Apple in the same household against the law or something...

Best S-pen replacement for long writing sessions?

What is the best S-pen replacement for long writing sessions? I did a good test drive with the S-pen today in a lecture, and while it was good, my little finger is cramped! I don't think this is a good thing in the long run. So, any suggestions on replacements. I'd like it if it is fairly inexpensive (around $30 is ok).

litetaker said:
What is the best S-pen replacement for long writing sessions? I did a good test drive with the S-pen today in a lecture, and while it was good, my little finger is cramped! I don't think this is a good thing in the long run. So, any suggestions on replacements. I'd like it if it is fairly inexpensive (around $30 is ok).
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I found this to work best:
http://www.amazon.com/Original-Sams...e=UTF8&qid=1380751991&sr=8-1&keywords=8pi+pen
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How is it in comparison with: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Samsung-Windows-Tablets/dp/B00BVUQZZ2
Is the 8pi pen heavier and thicker than the original? I think I need the pen to be a bit thicker and lot longer for my hand to be comfortable when writing with it.

How is it in comparison with: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Samsung-Windows-Tablets/dp/B00BVUQZZ2
Is the 8pi pen heavier and thicker than the original? I think I need the pen to be a bit thicker and lot longer for my hand to be comfortable when writing with it.

litetaker said:
How is it in comparison with: http://www.amazon.com/Wacom-Bamboo-Samsung-Windows-Tablets/dp/B00BVUQZZ2
Is the 8pi pen heavier and thicker than the original? I think I need the pen to be a bit thicker and lot longer for my hand to be comfortable when writing with it.
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The 8pi is thicker than the built in pen, but may not be any heavier, it's still very light. I can't use the built in pen, it feels like writing with a toothpick. But I am comfortable using the 8pi.
The Bamboo pen is thicker and heavier than the 8pi, however most of the extra weight is in the cap, so I did not find it more comfortable. It does look better, and could be more comfortable if you have very big hands. I actually find the 8pi more comfortable. I live in the US, and the Bamboo Feel pen models sold on this side of the pond are different than those sold in Europe. Apparently you can get a Bamboo Feel Pen made to work with the Note 8 in Europe and have no offset. The Bamboo Feel models available in the US (even if they say they work with Samsung tablets), have a significant offset. By offset, I mean the pen doesn't write exactly where the tip touches the tablet. This offset can be reduced by shortening the plastic tip, but I was not able to eliminate it. Others (in Europe), report that a different model is sold there without this issue.
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kisrita said:
The 8pi is thicker than the built in pen, but may not be any heavier, it's still very light. I can't use the built in pen, it feels like writing with a toothpick. But I am comfortable using the 8pi.
The Bamboo pen is thicker and heavier than the 8pi, however most of the extra weight is in the cap, so I did not find it more comfortable. It does look better, and could be more comfortable if you have very big hands. I actually find the 8pi more comfortable. I live in the US, and the Bamboo Feel pen models sold on this side of the pond are different than those sold in Europe. Apparently you can get a Bamboo Feel Pen made to work with the Note 8 in Europe and have no offset. The Bamboo Feel models available in the US (even if they say they work with Samsung tablets), have a significant offset. By offset, I mean the pen doesn't write exactly where the tip touches the tablet. This offset can be reduced by shortening the plastic tip, but I was not able to eliminate it. Others (in Europe), report that a different model is sold there without this issue.
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Thanks! That is very valuable information. I was checking the dimensions of the built in S-pen vs the 8pi S-pen and they seem very similar right? I think the built in one is just 0.1 inch thinner and 0.1 inch shorter. And I am guessing identical in weight. Is the 8pi really an upgrade?

litetaker said:
Thanks! That is very valuable information. I was checking the dimensions of the built in S-pen vs the 8pi S-pen and they seem very similar right? I think the built in one is just 0.1 inch thinner and 0.1 inch shorter. And I am guessing identical in weight. Is the 8pi really an upgrade?
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Hm, I thought there was a bigger difference than that. Maybe that's the difference from the built in pen included with the Note 10? That pen is bigger than the one in the Note 8.
I will post a picture of the Note 8 built in pen and the 8pi and Bamboo Feel side by side tomorrow after I get to work. I don't recall the 8pi being any shorter than normal pen, but it is slightly thinner. The Bamboo is slightly thicker than my typical pen at work. I guess it might help to include a pen and pencil in the pic for comparison.
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kisrita said:
Hm, I thought there was a bigger difference than that. Maybe that's the difference from the built in pen included with the Note 10? That pen is bigger than the one in the Note 8.
I will post a picture of the Note 8 built in pen and the 8pi and Bamboo Feel side by side tomorrow after I get to work. I don't recall the 8pi being any shorter than normal pen, but it is slightly thinner. The Bamboo is slightly thicker than my typical pen at work. I guess it might help to include a pen and pencil in the pic for comparison.
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I would be delighted to see the comparison picture! I am in no hurry to buy the 8pi so I'll wait till you get the time to upload! In the meantime, I will try to learn the ropes of my newly acquired Note 8!

litetaker said:
I would be delighted to see the comparison picture! I am in no hurry to buy the 8pi so I'll wait till you get the time to upload! In the meantime, I will try to learn the ropes of my newly acquired Note 8!
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Here you go. I guess the 8pi is shorter than I remembered. I didn't have a longer pencil for comparison, sorry. I think it should still help to see it.
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Bamboo stylus feel
For anyone still looking for a replacement, the bamboo stylus feel works perfectly (link below) without any offset. IMO it works much better than the built in stylus, both in terms of holding/gripping it and in terms of sensitivity and precision and also the button is much easier to press and has a better tactile feel.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel-samsung-galaxy-note
The one sold on amazon is a different model(SKU:CS300UK) whereas the link above( SKU:CS300UK2) is the one for the galaxy note 8. This is the one that is 2mm shorter than the amazon or bestbuy version. And it comes in a blue and white box(as opposed to the black and white one for the former).
I had earlier bought the one from amazon too and that version has the offset everyone is talking about, but this one I bought directly from Wacom does not. Couldn't find this version sold anywhere else though( looked at bestbuy/ office depot)..
Hope this helps.

I have a few pens and I like two above the rest, because they are heavier and feel more like a real pen. I also have the 8pi and while the top end works as an eraser (a nice feature) overall it is just as light and flimsy as the included pen. Samsung released a stylus holder for the original Note (you might have to look for that on eBay now) that comes with an original stylus that you inser into the holder. You need to be a bit careful so the click buttons align up, but once it is installed it has a very nice feeling and you can easily use it for note taking during a few hours without your fingers cramping. A nice bonus is that you can use the small stylus as a replacement in a Note, if you have that model and would need it. It is then easy to replace that with an original stylus from Samsung.
The other pen is a BT stylus, hence you can use it for phone conversations, or Skype/Line as well. This one is a bit more expensive due to the BT feature, but it is also heavier and bigger, hence even more easy to use for long periods of Writing. I have actually used it for a six hour session once and neither my hand nor my fingers ever cramped. This is also a Samsung original, and you may have to get it from eBay because, while I'm not certain, I do believe that Samsung only released it for the Asian markets.

Has anyone tested HM5100 Bluetooth pen?
Has anyone tested HM5100 Bluetooth pen?

xclub_101 said:
Has anyone tested HM5100 Bluetooth pen?
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Yes, I have one, it is very comfortable and the phone support is quite good.
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Kumabjorn said:
Yes, I have one, it is very comfortable and the phone support is quite good.
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Thank you!
Is it detected even if the original pen is stored in the phone? And what happens when you have two pens near the screen?

xclub_101 said:
Thank you!
Is it detected even if the original pen is stored in the phone? And what happens when you have two pens near the screen?
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Never tried using two pens, not ambidextrous. You need to change your setting for pen so it detects even if you have the original in the silo. This draws a little more battery, but not that I have noticed it.
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I picked up the Bamboo Stylus Feel (model: CS300UKSP, blue white box, labeled as Bamboo Stylus Feel for Samsung Galaxy Note), and at least on CM11 and Civ5, there is at least a 1mm-2mm offset when the pen is tilted. More or less, it's present when using the stylus at diagonal rotations/angles, and is not present or is minimal enough to not matter when the stylus is rotated parallel to the tablet (or tablet's bezels, if that makes sense). It's not much of an annoyance in normal use, but it does bother with I'm doing some drawing/sketching/painting.
Image attached of how offset it is.

I have the BT S Pen HM5100 that has the bluetooth feature - you can have your phone linked to the BT and use the stylus on the tablet and answer your phone while writing on your tablet, the pen is comfortable if a little top heavy, but the bonus is that it has a greater range of sensitivity and you can draw a really thin line and increase pressure till it is thick, much better than the included s pen, you have to change settings so that the pen is recognised without the included s pen being removed so you can use it while the orignbal is docked, there is also a setting IIRC so that the power consumption is reduced whilei n this mode but dont quote me on that - all in all it is a useful extra - i was going to put mine on ebay as it came with my tablet but after using it , I decided to keep it I really like it

sdfghi said:
For anyone still looking for a replacement, the bamboo stylus feel works perfectly (link below) without any offset. IMO it works much better than the built in stylus, both in terms of holding/gripping it and in terms of sensitivity and precision and also the button is much easier to press and has a better tactile feel.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/everyday/bamboo-stylus-feel-samsung-galaxy-note
The one sold on amazon is a different model(SKU:CS300UK) whereas the link above( SKU:CS300UK2) is the one for the galaxy note 8. This is the one that is 2mm shorter than the amazon or bestbuy version. And it comes in a blue and white box(as opposed to the black and white one for the former).
I had earlier bought the one from amazon too and that version has the offset everyone is talking about, but this one I bought directly from Wacom does not. Couldn't find this version sold anywhere else though( looked at bestbuy/ office depot)..
Hope this helps.
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Just wanted to say thanks for this advice and share that I recently purchased this from the Wacom website. As you stated in your OP, the model ending in UK2 is NOT available on Amazon and I couldn't find it anywhere else besides the Wacom website. Now I can't say whether the model ending in 'UK' still has issues or not, but I didn't want to even take the chance.
So far, I love this. The accuracy is dead on, but most importantly the 'feel' is SO MUCH BETTER than the stylus that comes with the Note. I feel much more comfortable actually taking notes, and as a result my handwriting is easier to read. Consequently, I'm using the writing features more than ever.
It came with two replacement tips, but limited/no instructions. One is 'hard' and the other 'soft'; I'm not sure if the tip that was already installed is 'medium' or same as the 'hard' replacement, I haven't tested and I'm happy with the default, so probably won't anytime soon.
Only improvement suggestion would be to add an eraser, I really like that idea on one of Wacom's other styluses.
Only issue for me is figuring out how to store the stylus so it's always with the tablet. The stylus has a clip but I wouldn't take a chance clipping onto my case for fear of scratching the screen (somewhere someone posted about a holder they built, but unfortunately I don't have time for that).

Thanks for posting the pics, I ended up getting an 8pi and have been very happy with it. The Wacom models are probably even better if you don't mind the price, but for me the 8pi is a great value and a big improvement over the default stylus. I like how much larger diameter the 8pi is compared to the default, here is an image to help show the difference:

MikeChelen said:
Thanks for posting the pics, I ended up getting an 8pi and have been very happy with it. The Wacom models are probably even better if you don't mind the price, but for me the 8pi is a great value and a big improvement over the default stylus. I like how much larger diameter the 8pi is compared to the default, here is an image to help show the difference:
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Is this stylus accurate?
I've bought same stylus. However, there is 1 mm offset when I use it in S-Note. There is no such problem when I use stylus that comes with Note 8

Alternative pens for Note 8

I have been going in circles trying to find a compatible pen for my Note 8. Many that claim compatibility have an offset when in use. Pens that I have tried:
Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel CS300UK from Best Buy - 2mm offset & reported by many.
On order Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel CS300UK2 - said to be compatible.
Samsung S Pen and Holder Kit. <2mm offset.
The supplied pen & a replacement Galaxy Note 8 stylus work fine with no offset.
There is a good thread at xda regarding the same issues with the Galaxy Note 10.1. I am not sure if the information pertaining to the Note 10.1 can be applied to the Note 8.
BTW The offset is present with the 4 app that I have tried.
It would be nice to see a chart of compatible pens, listing various tablets & the cross platform compatibility of the pens. Many products are listed as "compatible with Samsung Galaxy Note", but there appears to be some variance between the Galaxy Note products related to this offset. Otherwise they work fine.
Thanks,
kev

I have just received a chinese replica I ordered a few days ago.
I wanted to have a replacement Spen which could fit the built-in hole, and of course It does fit. In fact is basically the same stylus without branding. The only issue with this Spen is the offset you mentioned above. All in all, mine doesn't have such a big offset, may be less than 1mm. The gap is so small that is very difficult to measure. I don´t regret the purchase, beside the fact that It only cost 6,19$.
I have attached some photos of the replica.

Abudabilibre said:
I have just received a chinese replica I ordered a few days ago.
I wanted to have a replacement Spen which could fit the built-in hole, and of course It does fit. In fact is basically the same stylus without branding. The only issue with this Spen is the offset you mentioned above. All in all, mine doesn't have such a big offset, may be less than 1mm. The gap is so small that is very difficult to measure. I don´t regret the purchase, beside the fact that It only cost 6,19$.
I have attached some photos of the replica.
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I got the same non-branded pens & they too suffered with too much offset for me. They also had a wobbly tip. I ended up with a Wacom Bamboo Stylus Feel. Had to order it from Wacom directly to get the version that works with the Note 8. The model number is CS300UK2. It must have the "2" to work with the Note 8. The ones at Best Buy & most other retailers are CS300UK. The "K" is for black, so the white one would be CS300UW2.
Cheers,
kev

I also bought a Chinese duplicate. However, my experience with it is not as great.
It is not a perfect fit into the slot. You hage to apply alot more pressure than you would for the Official pen to get it to fit fully snuggly.
It has also broke for me after about a month and is now completely unusable.
Am considering just getting a the Wacom Feel for Note devices. Please let me know how you are finding it!
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chzyken said:
I also bought a Chinese duplicate. However, my experience with it is not as great.
It is not a perfect fit into the slot. You hage to apply alot more pressure than you would for the Official pen to get it to fit fully snuggly.
It has also broke for me after about a month and is now completely unusable.
Am considering just getting a the Wacom Feel for Note devices. Please let me know how you are finding it!
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The Feel works well for me. As I mentioned, I had to get the right one. It feels better in the hand than the stock stylus & the tip (soft) is very smooth on the screen without feeling too slippery. Haven't tried the hard replacement supplied.
Kev

[Q] DirectStylus Drawing/Sketching Experience?

Greetings! I am simply wondering if this tablet provides a decent drawing experience when compared to, say, the Galaxy Note line of products. I owned a Galaxy Note 8.0 which was wonderful, but after an unfortunate mishap, it's been rendered useless. I've been waiting for a tablet that is somewhat small, has an included stylus, and is very powerful (Stock Android is certainly another plus!). This seems to be the only device that fits the bill. I just want to know if actually feels like a pencil on paper from (hopefully) unbiased owners. I mainly intend to use ArtFlow and LayerPaint HD.

So nice to hear that there are people noticing that feature of the shield Tablet. So generally after some trys with different apps, Imo it works pretty well. But it can't be compared to an device with an active digitiser.
So you have your main focus on drawing. I would say you can have the same results as with an Spen for example. But you have to learn how to use the Direct Stylus.
In many reviews and threats & posts you will read about pressure sensitivity.
That not the truth. Direct stylus recognise the size of the tip touching the surface. There are two ways to achieve a bigger surface with this kind of stylus :
1. Press real hard on the display
That would be the normal "use" of an pen and an stylus with digitiser.
That is the reason you will read about flimsy tips of the stylus.
2. Twist the stylus while Drawing
When you take a look at the Tip of the stylus you can imagine, how the developers intend to use this kind of stylus .
For example when you want a decent line with a fine start, getting bigger till the end you have to start with the small tip and turn the stylus to a bigger spot.
l know it sounds unfamiliar, specially, when you are used to the Spen of Samsung, but after some tries it works quiet well.
As Nvidias CEO said during presentation , it depends on your personal skill..
Another important thing is the palm recognition.
It works most the time but it uses the same technique as pressure sensitivity. So it sometimes happen that when you lift or move your palm, You are giving an input. The best workaround is to activate the "stylus only mode " in the Menubar.
The annoying thing is, that you can't use pinch to Zoom or your Finger to move your workingsheet.
Hope I could give you a little clou on using the Direct Stylus on the shield Tablet.
If you got some more questions feel free to ask or pm me
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I use artflow on SHIELD and its ok. I love the stylus and it feels nice to draw with. Not sure if its the tablets senors or ArtFlow but sometimes it isnt accurate, where you think you're touching isn't what the tablet detects. I've only noticed this really with ArtFlow, Dabbler seems to be more accurate so I'm assuming its just the app itself. ArtFlow has rolled out updates for the Tegra k1 since I've downloaded it, so hopefully it gets better. I havn't tried Layer Paint yet.
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The annoying thing is, that you can't use pinch to Zoom or your Finger to move your workingsheet.
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Pinch Zoom works fine for me in Stylus only mode for ArtFlow. It is a tad buggy, sometimes instead of zooming/moving it acts as an eraser...which is odd. But the undo button fixes it. Its not perfect but it works for me.

Thank you so much guys! Could either of you test a pencil on the display? It works with the Tegra NOTE 7 and some other devices like the Galaxy S4/ S5. Make sure it's dull so you don't destroy your screen if you do try it.

What about small curls?
Hi, stylus lovers!
I have a question to owners of Shield Tablet.
Some time ago I've tested my colleague's Tegra Note 7 tablet (EVGA branded).
That tablet has Direct Stylus too. And it's stylus "engine" has an distressing flaw: it "eats" small curles. For example if I'm writing small handwritten letter "b" (the upper oval first and then the lower oval) the upper oval will be drawn in very reduced size, almost to dot. But the lower oval will be almost normal. It applies other letters with upper curls like handwritten "f", "h", "k" and "l" too.
(I hope, my explanation and my English is not very ugly.)
So, the question is how Shield Tablet's stylus behave in such situation? Can you just write some handwritten phrase in any drawing app and check out if small curles of letters were "eaten"?
Thanks!

That's a thing I noticed too. But I think I can explain a little bit about that.
First of all, what you experienced there is also to see when you are writing with for example an Spen. You just really have to take a close look.
To make the input look cleaner the software kind of renders the detected input and round it up to make it look more fluid.
The picture I posted is out of the App "Write ". There you have a setting where you can choose how much the input gets rounded.
l turned up the setting from No 1 to No 5. The movement on the screen was the same in every line.
So you can see how much influence an App setting can make .
So you can't say yes or no to your question. For me the standard Android handwriting recognition makes a really good job in terms of showing what's been written on the Display without the chicken influence
OneNote is imo an negative example for that.
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the software kind of renders the detected input and round it up to make it look more fluid
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Thank for quick reply!
I fully understand that moment. I've spent a lot of time with S-Pen (Note 8 and Note 10.1 2014) and Tegra Note 7 too.
And I can state: S-Pen is more laggy but it don't eats small curls as Tegra Note 7 stylus does.
I played with several drawing apps on Tegra Note 7 and all of them behaves similarly in curl eating.
There is one stylus sensivity setup option in Tegra Note 7 and it doesn't give any good effect for my interest.
I've forgot to say clearly: my interest is not in handwriting recognition. I just want to have precise drawing and handwriting.
So, the question is: does Direct Stylus in Shield Tablet eat curls less than in Tegra Note 7?
Obviously my question sounds whimsy. But I can't do anything with it. I want precise stylus.

No you don't. I really can understand you. Had the same headache.
On shield tablet l can't find a setting like you mentioned.
I really would like to post some examples but the App won't let me do this for you. So I would say order it and try it on your own. Maybe you find a shop with an good return policy?
I can make thinks look like been eaten up but with the same app l can write the best texts. There it really depends on the kind of pencil & brush and thickness you choose ...
Really sorry mate
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So the stylus in the shield isn't active? It's just like any other capacitive stylus that emulates a finger, maybe a bit better?

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So the stylus in the shield isn't active? It's just like any other capacitive stylus that emulates a finger, maybe a bit better?
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It's way way better.
Due to some Tegra's digitizing magic the Direct Stylus 2 performs like an active stylus. The most valuable advantage of Direct Stylus 2 over other capasitive stylus digitizers is very high sensivity and selectivity.
Here is good video on it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaRT0E-RTPQ
And here is a video on older Tegra Note 7 (with an older Direct Stylus digitizer) digitizer comparison with S-Pen digitizer on Galaxy Note 8 and capasitive sensor of Nexus 7:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtZz4PjcAUk

@Kirrrr Thanks for the videos. It seems to me like they optimized the ability for the touchscreen digititzer to pick up the size of a touch. The soft tip of the pen changes its size depending on the way you hold it and the pressure. Reporting of touch size is actually build in to android. I tested it and different fingers report different sizes. My pinky 1 - 2, forefinger 2 - 4 and thumb 3 - 5. I think that lots of drawing apps don't take advantage of this because the variance is so small when using the same finger. It seems like they where using a customized version of sketchbook that actually takes the touch size into account. I doubt the tip is going to last long and it didn't look like the tip is replacable. Software wise what they did is impressive, but I think I'm going to skip this tablet.

Stylus for Galaxy S6?

Hi everyone. I noticed there aren't any threads like this one so I decided to create it.
I'm interested if there are any good styli for this device but not those chinese ones for any phone that are waaay too thick. You'd be better off using your nose for precision. :laugh:
Something like a S Pen but for Galaxy S6?
Also, would you replace your phone for the Note5 now that it's out?
(Personally, it's way too big for me)

The normal cheap stylus work but won't give you the response or sensitivity of the spen. On another note I've heard good things about bluetooth stylus but I never have bought one. I'm curious to see what everyone comments on this topic.
Sent from my rooted Verizon Galaxy s6

lujki1 said:
Hi everyone. I noticed there aren't any threads like this one so I decided to create it.
I'm interested if there are any good styli for this device but not those chinese ones for any phone that are waaay too thick. You'd be better off using your nose for precision. :laugh:
Something like a S Pen but for Galaxy S6?
Also, would you replace your phone for the Note5 now that it's out?
(Personally, it's way too big for me)
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Here's a nice article with good options: http://heavy.com/tech/2015/03/whats-the-best-stylus-ipad-tablets/

from shawnpuerto's post maybe you can search "Point Stylus" on Amazon, this kind of Stylus is thin

I made a DIY stylus from cigarette foil like a guy did in a Youtube video. It really worked great, but after a while falls apart :/
I searched Point Stylus, but I'm not really sure. Do you know what's that circle on them?
I'm probably going to give up the idea of a nice stylus for this phone. Only one idea left. Does anyone know if LG Stylo's stylus works on other devices? I asked on a forum but no one answered.
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why doesnt Samsung offer a stylus pen for S line? what a pity.

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why doesnt Samsung offer a stylus pen for S line? what a pity.
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Oh, it did. But it was a fail. C-Pen for Galaxy S3 (probably works on S6 too).
But as you can see from a quick Google search it was impractical and again thick. And for the price it doesn't offer anything a 0.2€ chinese stylus offers.
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Just bumping this thread. I am looking into efficient notes taking, and so I am looking into using evernote to take notes. My laptop, however, is not touchscreen, so I can't use evernote to draw diagrams. I don't own a tablet either. The only touchscreen device I have is my GS6.
So I was looking into getting a fine stylus pen to use for notes taking.

A metal pen with a rounded rear end works fine. Something that you get from banks...

My fingers work well.

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My fingers work well.
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Yep, and probably with anything a bit thicker than your finger (you know what I mean) you can type too. But the thing is that nor OP, nor most watchers of this thread, want to use any of our body's appendix to type/draw/pulse the screen of our phones. It is also highly probable that we have already tried those round-rubber-tap metal cylinders that you can buy for 0.15 cts at ebay, so we are looking for a more "proffesional" solution.
Seriously, it is not a problem if you cannot help in the thread, but it is way better to keep sylent than posting "help" like "try one of these cheap rubber taps from ebay" or "try with any of your body's appendix.

lujki1 said:
I made a DIY stylus from cigarette foil like a guy did in a Youtube video. It really worked great, but after a while falls apart :/
I searched Point Stylus, but I'm not really sure. Do you know what's that circle on them?
I'm probably going to give up the idea of a nice stylus for this phone. Only one idea left. Does anyone know if LG Stylo's stylus works on other devices? I asked on a forum but no one answered.
Sent from my SM-T230 using XDA Free mobile app
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I made one a while back for an iPad. Honestly, since the features for spen are built into touchwiz, they just need to include a Wacom screen in the S series.
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My fingers work well.
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HOLY CRAP! I forgot I had those! Innovative suggestion!

Illogi.xbone said:
I made one a while back for an iPad. Honestly, since the features for spen are built into touchwiz, they just need to include a Wacom screen in the S series.
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HOLY CRAP! I forgot I had those! Innovative suggestion!
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What would be the different between the Galaxy Sx and the Note (x-1) ?
What I would like is an active stylus that I could use with my phone and with my tablet, regarding being or not Samsung.

glaudrem said:
What would be the different between the Galaxy Sx and the Note (x-1) ?
What I would like is an active stylus that I could use with my phone and with my tablet, regarding being or not Samsung.
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Look up Wacom. There is a film on the back of the Note screen that is not present in the Galaxy series. This is what is used by the pen. It is a different screen. If all OEMs put Wacom screens in you could take an active stylus, like the Spen, and use it on any device. My question still remains. If Samsung doesn't weed out the software for Spen why not put a Wacom screen in the Galaxy line?

Illogi.xbone said:
I made one a while back for an iPad. Honestly, since the features for spen are built into touchwiz, they just need to include a Wacom screen in the S series.
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HOLY CRAP! I forgot I had those! Innovative suggestion!
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Look up Wacom. There is a film on the back of the Note screen that is not present in the Galaxy series. This is what is used by the pen. It is a different screen. If all OEMs put Wacom screens in you could take an active stylus, like the Spen, and use it on any device. My question still remains. If Samsung doesn't weed out the software for Spen why not put a Wacom screen in the Galaxy line?
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You got me wrong. I know the Wacom layer. What I mean is that if you put a Wacom layer in the Galaxy S series, there is no difference between a Galaxy Note and a Galaxy S. You will lose a bussiness line with a more specific market.
There is an intermediate solution. Bluetooth active styli aren't as powerful as S-Pen, but are way more useful than the rubber-tip cheap styli you find in ebay. question is: did someone tried one? They are a bit in the expensive part (50-100 USD) so I wouldn't go for one without a good Android review (most of them are already tested in iPads)

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HOLY CRAP! I forgot I had those! Innovative suggestion!
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take care, apple may sue you for the use of the at word

I'm using one cheap-o, from aliexpress, bought it for 4$. Satisfied so far

And what did you buy ?

Aluminium from a Chips will be makes at DIY Pen' (somes metal capactive are be pass for touch too') or Try with at "TouchScreenTune" (forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1336464 - for Galaxy Tab 10.1,but I don't tested it anyway whatever...)