i tried few pens, two different noname from China and Bamboo Stylus, but always the same problem.
i have to press quite hard on screen to get response.
on my phone sgs i9000 i just put the pen on screen and dragin it through screen i get one line, as i should. but on p5100 i have to press pen down and still if i don't press enough, i get no response.
well it's ok for typing, but for drawing i'm afraid to scratch screen in a short time.
anybody else have bad experience with pen on p5100?
could it be software issue?
I don't think the screen is made for use with a pen. The Galaxy Note is good for that. But I believe you can modify touch sensitivity in some way.
Send from my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
Joery360 said:
I don't think the screen is made for use with a pen. The Galaxy Note is good for that. But I believe you can modify touch sensitivity in some way.
Send from my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
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if there are pens made for captive screens and if it works perfect on i9000... just wanted to know what experience other have with their pens on p5100..
and regarding note: it uses wacom technology and my next tablet i think will have it
thanks anyway
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Dear developers,
This is my first post in xda and I apologize in advance if I posted this question in the wrong place.
I searched a lot in the internet to find a way to allow me to use the digitizer stylus (the same one available in Galaxy Note) on the screen of my galaxy tab 7 plus, but unfortunately with no luck.
The digitizer stylus is available in the market as a replacement of lost or damaged Galaxy Note stylus. Therefore, the stylus is not an issue. I really believe that the stylus should work on any capacitive touch screen of any android tablet if we succeed in extracting the Wacom driver, or software, from a Galaxy Note and install it to the tab.
I searched in Wacom website, but found drivers for windows and Mac only, nothing for android.
I also tried to locate the Wacom in Galaxy Note, with no success :'(
I hope anyone tried such thing and looking for someone to share the experience.
Thanks!
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hackoor said:
I really believe that the stylus should work on any capacitive touch screen of any android tablet if we succeed in extracting the Wacom driver, or software, from a Galaxy Note and install it to the tab.
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If the Galaxy Note is anything like the conventional Wacom tablets, the hardware is primarily in the phone/tablet itself and not in the pen. If this is the case, your idea will not work.
You can, however, buy many styluses (styli?) that support capacitive touchscreens.
This is actual Wacom technology
Hello, you cannot use the S-Pen on non-Wacom screens because the stylus is not capacitive, but electromagnetic.
Using your finger, try pressing an UI element (like a widget, or a ListView item) so that you successfully select it. While the item is selected, slowly move the stylus down towards the screen. When it will be 1 cm away (or less) from the screen, the item you selected with your finger will get unselected. It is because the electromagnetic stylus has priority over your (“capacitive”) finger.
The fact that the stylus priority thing occurs even though the screen is not pressed with it, is a proof that the usual Wacom electromagnetic magic is in use in the Note.
I found a german page saying it does:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixm0zPvBLsY&feature=player_embedded
page http://allaboutsamsung.de/2012/08/s-pen-funktioniert-auch-am-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-10-1-video/
Is that right ?
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I found a german page saying it does:
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixm0zPvBLsY&feature=player_embedded
page http://allaboutsamsung.de/2012/08/s-pen-funktioniert-auch-am-samsung-galaxy-tab-2-10-1-video/
Is that right ?
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Though it works in the video, its clearly not working the same. Clearly he should be able to see this. Its just working like a capacitive stylus. The pressure sensitivity is not working.
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Though it works in the video, its clearly not working the same. Clearly he should be able to see this. Its just working like a capacitive stylus. The pressure sensitivity is not working.
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Even if that is the case, that's excellent because the spen has a very small nib for precision as opposed to the fat capacitive ones.
I didn't watch the video, but it certainly does not work as a capacitive stylus. It has a plastic tip. The screen doesn't even detect the tip touching it. It only detects where it is near the screen and uses the pressure sensor. For example, if you bring the pen near and push the tip with your finger, it will think that it touched the screen.
Could anyone try who have both Tablets ?
I have both. It doesn't work. If you look into the technology that makes the s pen it's obviously it won't work. That's why your s pen won't work with capacitive touch screens like the iPhone. The device needs to have an active digitizer.
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The display on the Note is inductive. The earlier Tabs are conductive. A conductive display won't recognize an inductive stylus. An inductive display will recognize a conductive stylus.
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The display on the Note is inductive. The earlier Tabs are conductive. A conductive display won't recognize an inductive stylus. An inductive display will recognize a conductive stylus.
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I hoped they build some of the new screens with s-technology also into the TAB 2 for some reasons...
So its only a coincident, or not true...
Thanks you for your answers
Actually Galaxy Notes have capacitive AND inductive touch screens - capacitive is for finger touch while inductive (Wacom) is for the pen.
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Actually Galaxy Notes have capacitive AND inductive touch screens - capacitive is for finger touch while inductive (Wacom) is for the pen.
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Actually it seems I misread the topic of the linked website
On the website they say its the Galaxy TAB 10.1 N which does use the active stylus too,
This page asked samsung an they said it true...
http://tblt.de/2012/08/galaxy-tab-2-10-1-funktioniert-s-pen-wacom-digitizer/
Well, but would be a bit slow compared to the quad core...
Wow, this is interesting. Maybe all Samsung tabs will have Wacom from now on?
Hey guys,
thanks for sharing my article and video, I am happy to find my content on xda.
As splotz clarified, this is a Tab 10.1N which is a special version for the German market, since Apple successfully banned the original 10.1 here. Unfortunately, other users cannot reproduce the S-Pen working with the 10.1N nor the Tab 2.
I contacted the developer (it's his Tab) and asked for screenshots of the Software version.
I got a silly question and it's probably because I'm an illiterate tech freak. On the new galaxy note 2, 5.5, is the screen a regular touch screen also, or do you have to use the stylus for all the inputting. I never have had a device with a stylus and don't really want to have to keep up with one or give up the convenience of the touchscreen.
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I got a silly question and it's probably because I'm an illiterate tech freak. On the new galaxy note 2, 5.5, is the screen a regular touch screen also, or do you have to use the stylus for all the inputting. I never have had a device with a stylus and don't really want to have to keep up with one or give up the convenience of the touchscreen.
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I have the note one, its a normal touch screen, but then has a special layer that picks up the input from the S pen.
So you dont need to use the stylus but the Spen gives better accuracy but drawing etc
I'm supposed to be thrilled by this tablet, in fact I still am (not with mine). A family member traveled to U.S and I ordered a White Note 10.1 and my auncle told me it didn't came with the S Pen which instantly put me in a sad mood all day. I can't find not even 1 site in my country that is selling the spen for the Note 10.1. The main reason I bought this tablet was because I wanted to have the S pen function.. I still does not have the tablet, mostly I'll be getting it tomorrow since they are arriving today, and tomorrow in my city.. I wanted to know just in case if The S Pen of the Galaxy notes 1 and 2 (phones) works good on the tablet? I'm not even excited anymore.. :crying:
I'm just hoping they didn't realize the S pen comes inside the tablet, even tho it's explained in an image in the back of the tablet..
thats very odd, did your uncle buy a 2nd hand tablet thats missing a pen? anyway im sure you can buy an S-pen on ebay, or buy the s-pen from international websites.
also i dont think the pen for note 1 and 2 will work.
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I'm supposed to be thrilled by this tablet, in fact I still am (not with mine). A family member traveled to U.S and I ordered a White Note 10.1 and my auncle told me it didn't came with the S Pen which instantly put me in a sad mood all day. I can't find not even 1 site in my country that is selling the spen for the Note 10.1. The main reason I bought this tablet was because I wanted to have the S pen function.. I still does not have the tablet, mostly I'll be getting it tomorrow since they are arriving today, and tomorrow in my city.. I wanted to know just in case if The S Pen of the Galaxy notes 1 and 2 (phones) works good on the tablet? I'm not even excited anymore.. :crying:
I'm just hoping they didn't realize the S pen comes inside the tablet, even tho it's explained in an image in the back of the tablet..
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The note comes with the pen, its inside the corner. I bought a spare for 40 bucks.
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thats very odd, did your uncle buy a 2nd hand tablet thats missing a pen? anyway im sure you can buy an S-pen on ebay, or buy the s-pen from international websites.
also i dont think the pen for note 1 and 2 will work.
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No! I even bought it from Amazon as a New. It cost me 450$ .. That's why I don't understand. I'm just really hoping that they didnt notice that spen is coming in the corner inside the tab
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The note comes with the pen, its inside the corner. I bought a spare for 40 bucks.
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Yes I know, that chilled me a little bit, I still hope it's there and they didnt notice..
If you don't mind saying ......... How did they get it from Amazon and do you have an email with the part number that you ordered. and what country are you in now?
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If you don't mind saying ......... How did they get it from Amazon and do you have an email with the part number that you ordered. and what country are you in now?
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Yes, I ordered online and they delivered in the hotel. I do have everything. I'm living in Venezuela right now..
Chuts said:
I'm supposed to be thrilled by this tablet, in fact I still am (not with mine). A family member traveled to U.S and I ordered a White Note 10.1 and my auncle told me it didn't came with the S Pen which instantly put me in a sad mood all day. I can't find not even 1 site in my country that is selling the spen for the Note 10.1. The main reason I bought this tablet was because I wanted to have the S pen function.. I still does not have the tablet, mostly I'll be getting it tomorrow since they are arriving today, and tomorrow in my city.. I wanted to know just in case if The S Pen of the Galaxy notes 1 and 2 (phones) works good on the tablet? I'm not even excited anymore.. :crying:
I'm just hoping they didn't realize the S pen comes inside the tablet, even tho it's explained in an image in the back of the tablet..
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Are you sure you bought the Galaxy Note 10.1? Because there's no Galaxy Note 10.1 being sold without the S-Pen. So in my point of view maybe you mistook and bought something like Galaxy Tab (2 or 10.1), such there's no S-Pen coming on those.
If you ordered a Galaxy Note 10.1 from amazon and you received a different one, you can challenge them to be refunded or to change it to the correct ordered product.
Also, FYI, the S-Pen won't work on Galaxy Tab series, it only works on Galaxy Note series because there's an active detection panel on the capacitive screen which locates the S-Pen indication/touch (If you bring the S-Pen closer than 3mm the panel locates the S-Pen approximation without touching it on the screen). And this panel is only present on Galaxy Note Series
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Are you sure you bought the Galaxy Note 10.1? Because there's no Galaxy Note 10.1 being sold without the S-Pen. So in my point of view maybe you mistook and bought something like Galaxy Tab (2 or 10.1), such there's no S-Pen coming on those.
If you ordered a Galaxy Note 10.1 from amazon and you received a different one, you can challenge them to be refunded or to change it to the correct ordered product.
Also, FYI, the S-Pen won't work on Galaxy Tab series, it only works on Galaxy Note series because there's an active detection panel on the capacitive screen which locates the S-Pen indication/touch (If you bring the S-Pen closer than 3mm the panel locates the S-Pen approximation without touching it on the screen). And this panel is only present on Galaxy Note Series
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Yes I ordered the Galaxy Note 10.1, I know the concept and all, he sent me a picture and it is the note.., but it seems the s pen is missing somehow didn't came in the tablet (maybe problem of furbished or idk), it's brand new, I'm about to receive it.. I hope everything is fine..
So.. I just receive the Galaxy note 10.1 and.. It has the Spen inside My auncle told me he had no idea it was there cause he actually open the box and putted right on the leather case backwards (wrong side) so he couldnt see the S pen lol. I love it! My only question is about the Spen, is normal to push it into the screen to actually use it? I feel its not like feeling the touch like my finger which is very smooth
Great to hear that you got the full package. enjoy!
"Push it into the screen"... did you mean you have to write hard? the tip the S Pen comes with (black tip) is a relatively soft one. if you want smoother feeling you can change to the white tip, which is harder. Personally I feel that the white one is too smooth...
Also, some screen protector make the S Pen black tip hard to use. I used to have an anti-glare screen protector on my note 10.1 and it doesn't feel good to write on with black tip.
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Great to hear that you got the full package. enjoy!
"Push it into the screen"... did you mean you have to write hard? the tip the S Pen comes with (black tip) is a relatively soft one. if you want smoother feeling you can change to the white tip, which is harder. Personally I feel that the white one is too smooth...
Also, some screen protector make the S Pen black tip hard to use. I used to have an anti-glare screen protector on my note 10.1 and it doesn't feel good to write on with black tip.
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Yeah sorry if u didnt understand, sometimes is hard for me to explain some things cause my main language is spanish
Well I feel like I have to push the spen hard in the screen for it to write which I dont really like lol I thougut its supposed to touch the screen and works just like your fingers.. and that kinda bothers me.. how can I change that you are saying. I did notice it came a few black and white sticks but I have no idea how that workx? Thank you
Im not ussing any screen protector..
Use the metal ring that came with tips to pull the black tip out. Theres a little hole where the tip is gripped. Now get a white tip and insert it with the metal ring. Just make sure you insert with the rounded end out....
Cheers....:laugh:
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Use the metal ring that came with tips to pull the black tip out. Theres a little hole where the tip is gripped. Now get a white tip and insert it with the metal ring. Just make sure you insert with the rounded end out....
Cheers....:laugh:
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Yes I just checked that, I don't really note much difference about the black one and the white one.. Is it normal that It doesn't recognize the sensitive when it's touching the screen and not pushing it?
The screen is pressure sensitive, like with a pen, the harder you press down the more "ink" is released and the thicker the line. Even using the finger can take a bit of pressure sometimes, especially when plugged into power...
EDIT: Model is SM-P850
So i feel like the S pen is too thin for me, what would be some recommendations for a third party stylus?
Offset it my main concern with a third party stylus
Lol no. S pen is the only thing that can make use of hardware features of your tablet
Wysłane z mojego SM-T585 przy użyciu Tapatalka
There are stylus pens that are compatible with S-pen tablets, I want to try one but I don't want to spend the money.
https://us-store.wacom.com/Product/Bamboo-Smart-for-Samsung-Galaxy-Note-S01?sku=CS310UK#/undefined1
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EDIT: Model is SM-P850
So i feel like the S pen is too thin for me, what would be some recommendations for a third party stylus?
Offset it my main concern with a third party stylus
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There is a builtin contradiction in what you are asking. Any "thicker" stylus would not be compatible because in wouldn't fit in the tablet. So any stylus you find advertised as being compatible with the S-Pen is, by definition, going to be thin.
edit: You might ask if anyone has tried the Wacom Gen 3 stylus with the P850. It is said to work with *some* Galaxy Note tablets.
Can we use note 10 s pen for it? It's pen size so it will be comfortable
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Can we use note 10 s pen for it? It's pen size so it will be comfortable
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Can you give a link to the pen? I had an SM-P600 Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and it had the same skinny pen as the P580. It has to in order to fit into the slot of a skinny tablet.
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Can you give a link to the pen? I had an SM-P600 Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and it had the same skinny pen as the P580. It has to in order to fit into the slot of a skinny tablet.
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http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-full-size-s-pen-with-eraser-page-7
I use the Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 pen with my Tab A 10.1 with S pen. The pen goes for anywhere from $30 to $70 (US Dollars). It feels better in the hand, since I'm not writing with a toothpick (pulled out s pen). The button on the pen cannot be disabled... , but I manage it by turning the pen around to avoid accidentally pressing it with my thumb. Tab S3 pen's tip is more finer like a mechanical pencil vs. a ball point pen (pulled out s pen). You could replace the tip on the pulled out s pen with the Tab S3's tip, but it's not design to hold it correctly. You can write with it, but it will be very wobbly and it may also break.
Bought the staedtler noris digital from Amazon cause in my country the tab S3 pen was not sold separately and it's almost half the cost of the s3 pen. Fantastic pen(cil?) than the built in stylus, smaller tip and more fun to use. The downside is the lousy pencil cap and no clip whatsoever so you need to think a way to store it (I resolve this issue by using velcro around the pencil and stick it to the case).
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I use the Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 pen with my Tab A 10.1 with S pen. The pen goes for anywhere from $30 to $70 (US Dollars). It feels better in the hand, since I'm not writing with a toothpick (pulled out s pen). The button on the pen cannot be disabled... , but I manage it by turning the pen around to avoid accidentally pressing it with my thumb. Tab S3 pen's tip is more finer like a mechanical pencil vs. a ball point pen (pulled out s pen). You could replace the tip on the pulled out s pen with the Tab S3's tip, but it's not design to hold it correctly. You can write with it, but it will be very wobbly and it may also break.
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I just bought the S Pen from the Tab S3 and it works perfectly on my p580. I purchased it the through Google, they sourced it from Fry's and included next day delivery at no charge. $39.99 plus sales tax. Its the only replacement that will work with the extended functionality of your tab AFAIK.
I also have galaxy tab a 10.1 P 585 but i lost my s pen :crying: and just cannot find affordable replacements, are there any other devices s pens that can be used as a replacement and can fit into that slot?? Thanks in advance
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I just bought the S Pen from the Tab S3 and it works perfectly on my p580. I purchased it the through Google, they sourced it from Fry's and included next day delivery at no charge. $39.99 plus sales tax. Its the only replacement that will work with the extended functionality of your tab AFAIK.
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Hi, Does the tab s3 s pen really works with the tab a s pen? the p580 is the tab a6 10.1 inches right?