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Extract Wacom driver from Galaxy Note and install the same in other Android tabs?

Dear developers,
This is my first post in xda and I apologize in advance if I posted this question in the wrong place.
I searched a lot in the internet to find a way to allow me to use the digitizer stylus (the same one available in Galaxy Note) on the screen of my galaxy tab 7 plus, but unfortunately with no luck.
The digitizer stylus is available in the market as a replacement of lost or damaged Galaxy Note stylus. Therefore, the stylus is not an issue. I really believe that the stylus should work on any capacitive touch screen of any android tablet if we succeed in extracting the Wacom driver, or software, from a Galaxy Note and install it to the tab.
I searched in Wacom website, but found drivers for windows and Mac only, nothing for android.
I also tried to locate the Wacom in Galaxy Note, with no success :'(
I hope anyone tried such thing and looking for someone to share the experience.
Thanks!
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hackoor said:
I really believe that the stylus should work on any capacitive touch screen of any android tablet if we succeed in extracting the Wacom driver, or software, from a Galaxy Note and install it to the tab.
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If the Galaxy Note is anything like the conventional Wacom tablets, the hardware is primarily in the phone/tablet itself and not in the pen. If this is the case, your idea will not work.
You can, however, buy many styluses (styli?) that support capacitive touchscreens.

This is actual Wacom technology
Hello, you cannot use the S-Pen on non-Wacom screens because the stylus is not capacitive, but electromagnetic.
Using your finger, try pressing an UI element (like a widget, or a ListView item) so that you successfully select it. While the item is selected, slowly move the stylus down towards the screen. When it will be 1 cm away (or less) from the screen, the item you selected with your finger will get unselected. It is because the electromagnetic stylus has priority over your (“capacitive”) finger.
The fact that the stylus priority thing occurs even though the screen is not pressed with it, is a proof that the usual Wacom electromagnetic magic is in use in the Note.

pen problem on p5100

i tried few pens, two different noname from China and Bamboo Stylus, but always the same problem.
i have to press quite hard on screen to get response.
on my phone sgs i9000 i just put the pen on screen and dragin it through screen i get one line, as i should. but on p5100 i have to press pen down and still if i don't press enough, i get no response.
well it's ok for typing, but for drawing i'm afraid to scratch screen in a short time.
anybody else have bad experience with pen on p5100?
could it be software issue?

I don't think the screen is made for use with a pen. The Galaxy Note is good for that. But I believe you can modify touch sensitivity in some way.
Send from my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1

Joery360 said:
I don't think the screen is made for use with a pen. The Galaxy Note is good for that. But I believe you can modify touch sensitivity in some way.
Send from my Galaxy Tab 2 10.1
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if there are pens made for captive screens and if it works perfect on i9000... just wanted to know what experience other have with their pens on p5100..
and regarding note: it uses wacom technology and my next tablet i think will have it
thanks anyway

(Q) Bamboo Stylus Feel For Galaxy Note Series

Good evening guys.
Today I received my Bamboo Stylus Feel specially for the Note Series in the mail today. 48 bucks including taxes, shipping. However I read the instructions carefully but I encountered an issue. The pen does not have that instant response compared to the S Pen. With the Bamboo stylus, I have to press much harder on the screen in order to get it to do something.
Am I doing something wrong? Am I missing something? If this really the way the Bamboo stylus behaves? I would love the community's help on this regard because I am ready to return this pen. It has disapointed me.
Thanks.

Robles23 said:
Good evening guys.
Today I received my Bamboo Stylus Feel specially for the Note Series in the mail today. 48 bucks including taxes, shipping. However I read the instructions carefully but I encountered an issue. The pen does not have that instant response compared to the S Pen. With the Bamboo stylus, I have to press much harder on the screen in order to get it to do something.
Am I doing something wrong? Am I missing something? If this really the way the Bamboo stylus behaves? I would love the community's help on this regard because I am ready to return this pen. It has disapointed me.
Thanks.
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I have one that I bought for the 10.1, and it works flawlessly for me. Never had a problem on my Note 2 either. Haven't tried it with my Note 4, though I would assume it works the same, unless it isn't updated to take advantage of the newer screen?

Robles23 said:
Good evening guys.
Today I received my Bamboo Stylus Feel specially for the Note Series in the mail today. 48 bucks including taxes, shipping. However I read the instructions carefully but I encountered an issue. The pen does not have that instant response compared to the S Pen. With the Bamboo stylus, I have to press much harder on the screen in order to get it to do something.
Am I doing something wrong? Am I missing something? If this really the way the Bamboo stylus behaves? I would love the community's help on this regard because I am ready to return this pen. It has disapointed me.
Thanks.
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I could be wrong but you might need to recalibrate the stylus for the Note 4. Google can help or someone might be able to add details or correct me

sefrcoko said:
I could be wrong but you might need to recalibrate the stylus for the Note 4. Google can help or someone might be able to add details or correct me
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Thank you guys for your responses. I will do some research in case i have to recalibrate the stylus. But like I said, it's very weird.. Because i have to press really hard on the screen to get it to do the desired action. If someone else has anything to add please contribute to this thread, otherwise I will report back here if I find any info on the Internet.

Sokudoningyou said:
I have one that I bought for the 10.1, and it works flawlessly for me. Never had a problem on my Note 2 either. Haven't tried it with my Note 4, though I would assume it works the same, unless it isn't updated to take advantage of the newer screen?
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The product page for the Bamboo Stylus Feel for Note Series has the Note 4 as a tested and compatible device.

Have you contacted Wacom? (Or Bamboo or whoever... I forget who the company is right now)
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (sm-910a) using Tapatalk

I have this pen and use it with no issues.

I don't have that pen specifically, but I do have a couple of frequency-compatible Tablet PC pens.
There are three things I've noted when using them on the Note 4:
-The calibration is off, way off, and I can't just recalibrate it like I can a tablet PC or even the tablet-size Galaxy Note products.
-Tilt sensitivity works on the tablet PC pens. Good luck taking advantage of that with the amount of cursor shift you'll have, though.
-The first 20-25% of the pressure sensitivity curve, as measured in Clover Paint settings, is effectively wasted on the stock S-Pen. The pressure value just skips from zero right into that range, then ramps up like you'd expect. None of my Tablet PC pens do this; they start from 0% at initial activation force like you'd think they would.
That last point is probably why you have to bear down so hard with the Bamboo Stylus to get it to work like it's supposed to. Too bad Samsung doesn't just give us a proper settings panel like Wacom does on a proper computer.

I am getting my own pen in the mail soon as well
I hope that things will work well
I wonder if changing ROM's would help with the Bamboo pen performance.

Note 5 force touch?

Hi, does the Note 5 able to use force touch? Because it has the Spen and I'm thinking it should. Note 5 can sense the pressure of the Spen so it should be able? I dont know. Anyone more knowledgeable can tell us?

samomamo said:
Hi, does the Note 5 able to use force touch? Because it has the Spen and I'm thinking it should. Note 5 can sense the pressure of the Spen so it should be able? I dont know. Anyone more knowledgeable can tell us?
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no no no no. spen has pressure sensitive setting.

Brava27 said:
no no no no. spen has pressure sensitive setting.
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Doesn't the Note have spcial screen to use with the spen? Because thr spen doesnt work with galaxy s6

samomamo said:
Hi, does the Note 5 able to use force touch? Because it has the Spen and I'm thinking it should. Note 5 can sense the pressure of the Spen so it should be able? I dont know. Anyone more knowledgeable can tell us?
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The Note has a 2 way communication in a sense... screen "talks" to the S-pen and S-Pen "talks" to the screen... "talks" meaning sends little pulses of sorta back and forth.
The S-pen is what controls "pressure" not the screen, technically. You can hover the S-Pen above the screen and press in the tip with your finger and the Note will think you have the S-pen on the screen. With your finger on the tip of the S-pen, if you move closer to the screen the thickness/darkness of the line will increase.. making the screen think you are applying pressing down on it... this is really only reducing the "talk" time which mimics pressure.
So the while the type of screen on the Note is slightly different than most, its not actually "detecting" the S-Pen touch... and the screen is not detecting the "pressure" of the S-pen, just how close it is to the lower layer of the screen.
(this is kinda a crappy way to explain it, but I'm fighting off a 3 day cold/flu and dope up on DayQuil)
If you are hoping for or wishing for the "3D touch" (which apple probably put a patient on) then It's not going to happen.
There is a SDK for the S-pen provided by Samsung; so if someone wanted to they could make apps, that had "3D Touch" effects...
but it would be more so detecting the distance the S-pen is...
when X (S-pen) == Y (distance from screen) then display contact details, when Y <= Z callcontact

link pls
Please send me that file for 3d touch for note 4

Between Spen 2 and Spen 4 which one has plastic tip? (spen help for lenovo yoga 2)

Might not be the best place to post but if anyone knows about all the spen in the world it might be you guys.
The question is which spen has the plastic tip?
Long story version is:
I like to draw digitally, hence I got a samsung galaxy note and later switched to a lenovo yoga 12.2 inch for drawing.
I used to use my original samsung galaxy note 10.1 spen for my lenovo yoga laptop because their stylus just sucked. After that one got lost, I have decided to buy a galaxy note 4's stylus to use with my lenovo yoga, the accuracy was good but a bit draggy.
And that one got lost..(i know)
So I took a chance and bought a fujiutsi lifebook stylus, which was smooth...but the accuracy was off, the cursor followed underneath the stylus and I just couldnt calibrate the thing to work.
So I went back to buying a galaxy note 4 spen which i got for a bit cheaper. the accuracy was great, the pressure senestivity was harder but I managed to fix it. It was then I noticed that the thing was draggy because it had a rubber tip.
...I fiddled with the rubber tip...and It came off...I cant superglue it back..I also noticed without the rubber tip the accuracy is a bit off.
So before I go and buy the same thing..I was wondering if I should buy an spen with plastic tip. I looked around the XDA threads and it seems that samsung provides different tips for their galaxy note 3 users(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2478825). I don't think I should buy the tips separately not knowing which one is plastic or rubbery. I think I can get the spen 2(with the thought that spen 2 has a plastic nib) in the same price as the set of spen 3 nibs. But I am not sure if they are gonna have the same accuracy without that rubber tip...or if spen 2 does have a plastic nib.
Or maybe I should just buy a bamboo feel (though that needs battery)
So..help?

Spen which comes with note 3 and note 4 comes with various replaceable tips and it has plastic tips too.
Cant say about note 5 as i dont own it.
But spen with note 3 and note 4 having plastic tip is confirmed.

I'm surprised that the S-Pen actually works on a non Note device! As from what I have heard Samsung's S-Pen uses electromagnetic technology to interact with the screen on Note devices.

DarkGuyver said:
I'm surprised that the S-Pen actually works on a non Note device! As from what I have heard Samsung's S-Pen uses electromagnetic technology to interact with the screen on Note devices.
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Yeah and the technology is implemented on the screens rather than on spen.

sushant1thakran said:
Yeah and the technology is implemented on the screens rather than on spen.
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Exactly! I've watched a teardown video of the S-Pen, which also explains how the S-Pen functions on the screen. Which uses a electromagnetic grid underneath or in the screen to pinpoint the position of the S-Pen when it's in use. This technology is different from the technology used in traditional capacitive touchscreens.

sushant1thakran said:
Spen which comes with note 3 and note 4 comes with various replaceable tips and it has plastic tips too.
Cant say about note 5 as i dont own it.
But spen with note 3 and note 4 having plastic tip is confirmed.
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Thanks, I uhmmm...I already sort of ordered the note 2's spen >_>" It hasnt arrived yet so..
From where I have ordered they only seem to give me one spen with no extra tips, and the one I got had that stupid rubber tip, which was really draggy...which is why I got myself a nexus instead of a the latest galaxy note..plus that galaxy note was pricey...And I already have a galaxy note 10.1.

mercuryraven said:
Thanks, I uhmmm...I already sort of ordered the note 2's spen >_>" It hasnt arrived yet so..
From where I have ordered they only seem to give me one spen with no extra tips, and the one I got had that stupid rubber tip, which was really draggy...which is why I got myself a nexus instead of a the latest galaxy note..plus that galaxy note was pricey...And I already have a galaxy note 10.1.
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Samsung started to give interchangeable tips from note 3 only.
So in order to save ur own time and money, cancel the order and buy note 3 or or later device's spen.