Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
lardo5150 said:
Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
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DrADP said:
yes
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Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
lardo5150 said:
Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
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Yes. Samsung devices can usually be fully returned to stock.
The bootloader is fully unlocked, with the exception of the flash counter which tracks how many times you've flashed custom recoveries or kernels in download mode. However, on most other devices it is now known how to reset that counter - fairly sure we'll be able to reset this one as well. It's top of my priorities list.
Officially rooting voids your warranty, but that policy may be illegal in the United States due to the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act.
I'm really liking the looks of this! :good:
So glad I returned my TF700 for this beauty. It's supposed to be here by UPS within the next hour. :fingers-crossed:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
iamchocho said:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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And if you really mess something up I've heard that 5 seconds in a microwave oven is enough so that the repair center won't be able to tell if the device have been rooted or not...
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iamchocho said:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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Counter reset is a go - I'm going to release tonight since that's a critical feature, although until I fix the wifi derpiness people will probably want to flash back to a stock kernel afterwards. (e.g. flash custom recovery, flash custom kernel, reset counter, flash stock kernel, keep custom recovery.)
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so i have a friend who works for this company who gave them the skyrocket. technically speaking the company owns the phone not the employee and the phone can be monitored by this company. is he at risk if he wanted to root the company owned phone??
It would depend on the company he works for and their policy. The company I work for is small (one man IT dept) and no one would care. Bigger corporations, however, might not take so kindly to it.
Also depends on if the company installed custom software on the phone for work purposes. If so rooting might not be a good idea.
But if it's just an out-of-the-box Skyrocket, he could root it and install custom roms, etc., and if he ended up leaving the company and had to return the phone he could just flash back to stock with them being none the wiser (provided that he doesn't trip the flash counter--the safest way to be sure not to trip the counter is to use a jig to get into download mode, by the way).
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It would depend on the company he works for and their policy. The company I work for is small (one man IT dept) and no one would care. Bigger corporations, however, might not take so kindly to it.
Also depends on if the company installed custom software on the phone for work purposes. If so rooting might not be a good idea.
But if it's just an out-of-the-box Skyrocket, he could root it and install custom roms, etc., and if he ended up leaving the company and had to return the phone he could just flash back to stock with them being none the wiser (provided that he doesn't trip the flash counter--the safest way to be sure not to trip the counter is to use a jig to get into download mode, by the way).
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Jig doesn't work for the flash counter.
mimart7 said:
Jig doesn't work for the flash counter.
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I just rooted my replacement phone yesterday, used a jig to get into download mode. Flash counter was at 0 and it said Custom rom: No
When I rooted my previous phone that got borked I used the Odin method listed in the dev section, and contrary to the directions in that thread it did trip the counter.
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I just rooted my replacement phone yesterday, used a jig to get into download mode. Flash counter was at 0 and it said Custom rom: No
When I rooted my previous phone that got borked I used the Odin method listed in the dev section, and contrary to the directions in that thread it did trip the counter.
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I tried with mine, and flash count didn't change, but it won't reset the flash counter.
mimart7 said:
I tried with mine, and flash count didn't change, but it won't reset the flash counter.
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Ah, I get what you're saying. I too noticed on my previous phone that the jig wouldn't reset the counter, but with my replacement I made sure to use the jig first.
the company is at&t haha. i feel like its risky
mic.mayorga said:
the company is at&t haha. i feel like its risky
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Ha! Oh yeah, that's risky. You might want to warn him about CIQ being on the Skyrocket. I'd be scared to do anything on the phone given what at&t could use that for!
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Is there any way to remove all the bloatware without voiding the warranty,rooting, and so I can update when ICS EVENTUALLY comes out? thanks
motez23 said:
Is there any way to remove all the bloatware without voiding the warranty,rooting, and so I can update when ICS EVENTUALLY comes out? thanks
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Not that I am aware of. But if you still want to update via kies just use titanium and freeze the bloat. But I am not aware of any way to root without voiding warranty. I know there is the back to stock using Odin, along with the flash counter reset
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LiveFaster said:
Not that I am aware of. But if you still want to update via kies just use titanium and freeze the bloat. But I am not aware of any way to root without voiding warranty. I know there is the back to stock using Odin, along with the flash counter reset
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Yeah theres no way of doing it without rooting your phone. But, you are not necessarily voiding your warranty by rooting your phone. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act lets you root your phone and not void your warranty. Just root it, install a custom ROM, enjoy the hell out of it until ICS comes out (IF it ever comes out and T-Mobile decides to get off their lazy butts and do something productive). And IF it does come out, just use Odin to return to stock, and reset the flash counter. You'll be good to go.
Please post questions in the Q&A/General section. This section is for development (roms, kernel, recovery, etc.).
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crazydrummer95 said:
Yeah theres no way of doing it without rooting your phone. But, you are not necessarily voiding your warranty by rooting your phone. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act lets you root your phone and not void your warranty. Just root it, install a custom ROM, enjoy the hell out of it until ICS comes out (IF it ever comes out and T-Mobile decides to get off their lazy butts and do something productive). And IF it does come out, just use Odin to return to stock, and reset the flash counter. You'll be good to go.
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Alright cool, and I know how to return to stock but what is this flash counter business lol.
So i have heard ups and downs about this tablet but i have heard best way to get its max performance is but installing a rom i was wondering if i install a rom can i just return the tablet to stock and the store not know? they have a 30 day return policy in case i don't like the tablet i can return it. But if they can tell its been rooted then they probably wont take it back
kittyslasher said:
So i have heard ups and downs about this tablet but i have heard best way to get its max performance is but installing a rom i was wondering if i install a rom can i just return the tablet to stock and the store not know? they have a 30 day return policy in case i don't like the tablet i can return it. But if they can tell its been rooted then they probably wont take it back
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If you just rooted, yes you can undo, but to install custom rom, you need to unlock and NO, you can't undo this. If you unlock and decided to return, if the guy is looking for it, YES they would know. It will shows "device is unlock" right on the screen during boot up and unlock will void your warranty, but not root.
buhohitr said:
If you just rooted, yes you can undo, but to install custom rom, you need to unlock and NO, you can't undo this. If you unlock and decided to return, if the guy is looking for it, YES they would know. It will shows "device is unlock" right on the screen during boot up and unlock will void your warranty, but not root.
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UGH damn it, well its either this or the google nexus 10. Would you recommend the tablet? i like the processor i like the gpu just hate the 1 gb of ram and apparently it runs sluggish and like hell
So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
jayjr1105 said:
So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
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I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Deliquified said:
I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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I haven't checked that link out yet but how easy is it to go back to the Verizon stock ROM if need be?
Does the ROM procedure go something like this?...
Power Off, DL mode with jig, ODIN a CWM or Kernel package with CWM, mount SD, drag and drop ROM, Flash, win?
well...
well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
eorly420 said:
well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
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There is already an in depth tutorial for that as well as one for those who have the recent OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
The above link is those with the jelly bean OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
This above is the in depth guide I was talking about. It was posted on 7/10/12. So there is no need for another tutorial unless you found a new way to do it. If you are talking about RootDebugFS then there is a tutorial for that here as well as the SuperSU version here as well.
I also came from a fascinate which was super easy to flash. As long as you read up on your homework this phone is cake to flash.
You shouldn't have many problems. If you need help, PM me. I'm glad to help.
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So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
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So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
jayjr1105 said:
Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
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If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
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If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
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Is there a way to just see if you tripped the flash counter without Triangle Away?
When Odin back to stock will it lock the bootloader? Specifically from a unlocked firmware and then Odin to 4.3 image.
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jl2222 said:
When Odin back to stock will it lock the bootloader? Specifically from a unlocked firmware and then Odin to 4.3 image.
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I should imagine that if you Odin using an OTA or stock tar from your provider then yes, you will lock your bootloader. AFAIK (which, mind you could be in error) the bootloader in the 4.3 OTA locks and deploys KNOX.
To save root I would ODIN stock root ROM or the like from XDA. Better yet install a custom recovery and then install rooted stock.
HTH
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I should imagine that if you Odin using an OTA or stock tar from your provider then yes, you will lock your bootloader. AFAIK (which, mind you could be in error) the bootloader in the 4.3 OTA locks and deploys KNOX.
To save root I would ODIN stock root ROM or the like from XDA. Better yet install a custom recovery and then install rooted stock.
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Ok thanks. Yeah it may sound weird but my goal is to get one of my phones completely back to stock. Stock recovery, Knox, Bootloader locked etc. I believe I have achieved my overall goal but cannot tell if I have a lock or unlocked bootloader still. When I first started my phone after Odin it showed a splash screen that said custom with an unlock symbol which threw me off. After booting the phone the custom lock splash screen during boot up went away. Kinda weird.
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Ok thanks. Yeah it may sound weird but my goal is to get one of my phones completely back to stock. Stock recovery, Knox, Bootloader locked etc. I believe I have achieved my overall goal but cannot tell if I have a lock or unlocked bootloader still. When I first started my phone after Odin it showed a splash screen that said custom with an unlock symbol which threw me off. After booting the phone the custom lock splash screen during boot up went away. Kinda weird.
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Yeah. That is odd. Which is why we all take chances of borking our devices when we flash. Crazy stuff can happen. The Custom reference and unlock to me implies you still have a custom recovery and unlocked BL. Either way with the KNOX trip your phone is out of warranty. But then perhaps the person at VZW won't check.
Something I've started to do (suggestion from prdog1) is when I flash I wipe System along with Dalvik and Data. Clears out any "leftovers" from previous flashes it seems.
Just a thought.
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Yeah. That is odd. Which is why we all take chances of borking our devices when we flash. Crazy stuff can happen. The Custom reference and unlock to me implies you still have a custom recovery and unlocked BL. Either way with the KNOX trip your phone is out of warranty. But then perhaps the person at VZW won't check.
Something I've started to do (suggestion from prdog1) is when I flash I wipe System along with Dalvik and Data. Clears out any "leftovers" from previous flashes it seems.
Just a thought.
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Yea I was unaware of KNOX until after I Odin to 4.3. So a little worried I tripped it in the process. Also I never Triangled Away before either. Im wondering if I should saferoot her then use triangle away and then Odin one more time.
Yea I also like to wipe system sometimes too. I've noticed most every Rom will wipe system during installation anyways tho.
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Yea I was unaware of KNOX until after I Odin to 4.3. So a little worried I tripped it in the process. Also I never Triangled Away before either. Im wondering if I should saferoot her then use triangle away and then Odin one more time.
Yea I also like to wipe system sometimes too. I've noticed most every Rom will wipe system during installation anyways tho.
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Well, IMHO it's immaterial resetting with Triangle Away. Since KNOX is tripped and cannot be reversed any VZW employee who happens to looks and discovers the KNOX trip can reject the phone (AFAIK).
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Well, IMHO it's immaterial resetting with Triangle Away. Since KNOX is tripped and cannot be reversed any VZW employee who happens to looks and discovers the KNOX trip can reject the phone (AFAIK).
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Well cross my fingers it passes and they don't check it. Thank for the help.
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Well cross my fingers it passes and they don't check it. Thank for the help.
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You're welcome. Good luck