[Q] at risk to root?? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

so i have a friend who works for this company who gave them the skyrocket. technically speaking the company owns the phone not the employee and the phone can be monitored by this company. is he at risk if he wanted to root the company owned phone??

It would depend on the company he works for and their policy. The company I work for is small (one man IT dept) and no one would care. Bigger corporations, however, might not take so kindly to it.
Also depends on if the company installed custom software on the phone for work purposes. If so rooting might not be a good idea.
But if it's just an out-of-the-box Skyrocket, he could root it and install custom roms, etc., and if he ended up leaving the company and had to return the phone he could just flash back to stock with them being none the wiser (provided that he doesn't trip the flash counter--the safest way to be sure not to trip the counter is to use a jig to get into download mode, by the way).

skrambled said:
It would depend on the company he works for and their policy. The company I work for is small (one man IT dept) and no one would care. Bigger corporations, however, might not take so kindly to it.
Also depends on if the company installed custom software on the phone for work purposes. If so rooting might not be a good idea.
But if it's just an out-of-the-box Skyrocket, he could root it and install custom roms, etc., and if he ended up leaving the company and had to return the phone he could just flash back to stock with them being none the wiser (provided that he doesn't trip the flash counter--the safest way to be sure not to trip the counter is to use a jig to get into download mode, by the way).
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Jig doesn't work for the flash counter.

mimart7 said:
Jig doesn't work for the flash counter.
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I just rooted my replacement phone yesterday, used a jig to get into download mode. Flash counter was at 0 and it said Custom rom: No
When I rooted my previous phone that got borked I used the Odin method listed in the dev section, and contrary to the directions in that thread it did trip the counter.

skrambled said:
I just rooted my replacement phone yesterday, used a jig to get into download mode. Flash counter was at 0 and it said Custom rom: No
When I rooted my previous phone that got borked I used the Odin method listed in the dev section, and contrary to the directions in that thread it did trip the counter.
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I tried with mine, and flash count didn't change, but it won't reset the flash counter.

mimart7 said:
I tried with mine, and flash count didn't change, but it won't reset the flash counter.
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Ah, I get what you're saying. I too noticed on my previous phone that the jig wouldn't reset the counter, but with my replacement I made sure to use the jig first.

the company is at&t haha. i feel like its risky

mic.mayorga said:
the company is at&t haha. i feel like its risky
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Ha! Oh yeah, that's risky. You might want to warn him about CIQ being on the Skyrocket. I'd be scared to do anything on the phone given what at&t could use that for!
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[Q] USB jig to reset flash counter

Any one know how to get the USB jig to reset the flash counter on the Skyrocket? I bought the jig for the I777 and it worked. It does not work on the I727. I can't seem to figure out what is going wrong. All I had to do on the 777 was to shut the phone off and plug the jig in and it did the rest. On the 727 it takes it into download mode, but does not reset the counter. Please help me out.
Bootloader has probably been updated to fix this. Was talk about this on the i9100 forum.
Yes it has the updated bootloader. There are ways to root and flash without tripping the counter or yellow triangle. Search they are there...
Unfortunately I had triggered the flash counter before the method of rooting with out triggering the counter came out. Do we think we will be able to work around this and reset the flash counter?
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Same as OGSII?
shansmi said:
Yes it has the updated bootloader. There are ways to root and flash without tripping the counter or yellow triangle. Search they are there...
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Is this the same approach that worked on OGSII or is there a different way on the SR?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
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con_oner said:
Is this the same approach that worked on OGSII or is there a different way on the SR?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=18576627#post18576627
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Never mind...I found it for the SR. Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1340526
In the SGSII Forum, I found that there was a I777 sbl.tar that made it so my jig would work. Does anyone know of a I727 sbl.tar that will do the same thing for the Skyrocket?
Just to clarify, it made my jig work on the SGSII, not the Skyrocket, after I had flashed a leaked version of 2.3.5. It reset the counter to NO and all was good.
greenlitego70 said:
Just to clarify, it made my jig work on the SGSII, not the Skyrocket, after I had flashed a leaked version of 2.3.5. It reset the counter to NO and all was good.
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Could you link to the relevant thread? I can at least take a look at it if I have some info.
the rooting method I spoke came out for the 777 and still applies to the 727. Actually all I did was root, install ROM manager, flash CWM via the ROM manager Choose the TMO GSII) and then you can flash any ROM from there without tripping the counter...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316726
I had flashed a leaked 2.3.5 version of android through Odin, and had returned the phone to stock ROM, but could not reset the flash counter my SGSII with the jig. I had to this secondary boot loader someone had suggested. After I did that, I used the jig and it removed the yellow triangle and it reset everything back to original. You would have thought I learned my lesson. Learning as I go. Phone is working fine so its not the end of the world. I just want to have options if I ever do need to return it for warranty issues.
from what i heard....i though that even if you reset the flash counter, they have a reset counter as well, so they may not be able to see how many times you flashed but CAN see how many times you Reset the Counter.
i was just browsing and read this on XDA somewhere....forgive me if its old news and has been solved with the Jig as well.
i personally dont care about the counter.
I take it there isn't a solution for resetting the phone to 100% original condition, i.e. flash counter, Official ROM? I am screwed if I have to take this in for warranty. I just figured someone would have been able to figure a way for all of us who may have made the mistake of flashing something we shouldn't have. Just looking for some help. It does me no good to hear that there is a way to root and install ROMs without setting off all that stuff, when it is too late. I just would like to get back to the original condition.
greenlitego70 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316726
I had flashed a leaked 2.3.5 version of android through Odin, and had returned the phone to stock ROM, but could not reset the flash counter my SGSII with the jig. I had to this secondary boot loader someone had suggested. After I did that, I used the jig and it removed the yellow triangle and it reset everything back to original. You would have thought I learned my lesson. Learning as I go. Phone is working fine so its not the end of the world. I just want to have options if I ever do need to return it for warranty issues.
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Has this been tried on the i727 Skyrocket? Works?
Barsky said:
Has this been tried on the i727 Skyrocket? Works?
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My USB jig works perfectly on the skyrocket. I also use it for my i9100 og Sgs2. Ebay 5 bucks.
IshouldntbeHere said:
My USB jig works perfectly on the skyrocket. I also use it for my i9100 og Sgs2. Ebay 5 bucks.
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Actually, using this i777 file provided me with a soft-brick. multiple tries.
Unless there were more steps than just dropping this into the PDA section of odin and letting it rip from download mode, then I am out of luck for now.
No big deal. Reflashed cwm recovery and I am back. Custom Count: 14 still.
As to the jig, yeah. got one. They stopped working on 2.3.5 and up for most Galaxy S II phones. Would be happy to be corrected on this...very happy
Bit of a dumb question, I picked up a Jig from Hong Kong.. Now when you enter Download Mode manually (volume +/- then USB), I noticed on the top is said ODIN Mode.. Now, when you do it via the Jig.. It states Factory Mode.
Now here is my strange observation with this.. I flashed my phone back to stock using ODIN 1.85 & using the Jig (Factory Mode).. Everything successful.. Allowed it to do a full boot.
I put the phone into Download Mode (ODIN).. The counter said NO.
I put the phone into Download Mode (Factory).. The counter said NO.
Did I like find a Jig that wipes the count or does not register the counts ?
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LordGeek said:
Now here is my strange observation with this.. I flashed my phone back to stock using ODIN 1.85 & using the Jig (Factory Mode).. Everything successful.. Allowed it to do a full boot.
I put the phone into Download Mode (ODIN).. The counter said NO.
I put the phone into Download Mode (Factory).. The counter said NO.
Did I like find a Jig that wipes the count or does not register the counts ?
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Which stock file did you use? I just tried with a stock recovery and stock kernel, but no luck. maybe I need to complete the process.
Thanks
Barsky said:
Which stock file did you use? I just tried with a stock recovery and stock kernel, but no luck. maybe I need to complete the process.
Thanks
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I downloaded the full stock 2.3.5 recovery from sampro.pl
You can also get the same recovery file from sammobile.com
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LordGeek said:
Bit of a dumb question, I picked up a Jig from Hong Kong.. Now when you enter Download Mode manually (volume +/- then USB), I noticed on the top is said ODIN Mode.. Now, when you do it via the Jig.. It states Factory Mode.
Now here is my strange observation with this.. I flashed my phone back to stock using ODIN 1.85 & using the Jig (Factory Mode).. Everything successful.. Allowed it to do a full boot.
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Thanks for the tip, LordGeek. I noticed the Factory mode when I used my jig. I'll try a restore later on to see how it goes.
Just to clarify, when you booted into the factory mode with the jig, you just ran the ODIN software normally as if you had booted into download mode manually?
I would like to buy a jig from ebay to reset my flash counter. Which jig should I buy?
I looked on ebay and fine jigs for the SGS and the SGS2.
Help
Would this jig work
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OTG-Cable-D...ccessories&hash=item589129f604#ht_2211wt_1139
I never did the 2.3.6 update and have 2.3.5 got my phone on 1/1/2012
Is there any way to reset the counter?
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greenlitego70 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316726
I had flashed a leaked 2.3.5 version of android through Odin, and had returned the phone to stock ROM, but could not reset the flash counter my SGSII with the jig. I had to this secondary boot loader someone had suggested. After I did that, I used the jig and it removed the yellow triangle and it reset everything back to original. You would have thought I learned my lesson. Learning as I go. Phone is working fine so its not the end of the world. I just want to have options if I ever do need to return it for warranty issues.
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What steps did you follow to flash that to your skyrocket and not soft brick it?
If we can pul a sbl.bin from a skyrocket with no flash counter tripped then we can fix this

ATT RMA - am I back to stock?

My camera crapped on my 7 week old SR. Keeps FCing. ATT is sending me a refurb. Before I took it to my ATT store I ran Odin and think I'm back to stock. I'm a newb, though, so I wanna be sure before I send my phone to them.
I'll wipe again before I send it to remove personal info. Is there any way ATT can know I rooted or flashed to deny warranty coverage?
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That shows u are on 2.3.5 but have the ucla3 2.3.6 modem
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The odin tar does not change your baseband.
If your worried about it. Re root. Get cwm recovery back flash the kj2 moden found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384865
In cwm. Then odin the stock kj2 tar
silver03wrx said:
That shows u are on 2.3.5 but have the ucla3 2.3.6 modem
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The odin tar does not change your baseband.
If your worried about it. Re root. Get cwm recovery back flash the kj2 moden found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1384865
In cwm. Then odin the stock kj2 tar
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yup, silver's right
Nice catch. The ATT store folks first did a soft wipe and when that didn't fix the camera did a USB reinstall. Sounds like they didn't touch the modem though.
It's hard to believe they would hang me on that, but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
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Get the Odin tar from samfirmware.com it restores the phone back to factory including the baseband. But if your flash count went up they might catch that.
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steeven01 said:
Get the Odin tar from samfirmware.com it restores the phone back to factory including the baseband. But if your flash count went up they might catch that.
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everyone is worried about this, but I have yet to see anyone get booked on a return even with a high flash count
Altarocks said:
My camera crapped on my 7 week old SR. Keeps FCing. ATT is sending me a refurb. Before I took it to my ATT store I ran Odin and think I'm back to stock. I'm a newb, though, so I wanna be sure before I send my phone to them.
I'll wipe again before I send it to remove personal info. Is there any way ATT can know I rooted or flashed to deny warranty coverage?
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Where do you think your refurbished phone is coming from
Dollars to donuts.. It's someone else's bricked phone
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shaggyskunk said:
Where do you think your refurbished phone is coming from
Dollars to donuts.. It's someone else's bricked phone
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Probably. It's lame I'm getting a refurb after paying $200 less than two months ago. Refurbs are $50. But as long as I get a working device...
steeven01 said:
Get the Odin tar from samfirmware.com it restores the phone back to factory including the baseband. But if your flash count went up they might catch that.
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So there is a log of flashes that is saved? I woulda thought a wipe and restore wipes everything. Don't like the sound of that.
Altarocks said:
So there is a log of flashes that is saved? I woulda thought a wipe and restore wipes everything. Don't like the sound of that.
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Yeah, there is a flash counter. You will see it when you enter DL mode.
Using a jig to get into download mode will prevent you from tripping the flash counter.
If you've used Odin previously or flashed any custom kernels in cwm your count will be 1 or greater. If not, definitely use a jig and keep the counter at 0.
If you're over 0, don't worry, try anyways. As stated, I've yet to see anyone get called out on the flash counter on a warranty exchange...
skrambled said:
Using a jig to get into download mode will prevent you from tripping the flash counter.
If you've used Odin previously or flashed any custom kernels in cwm your count will be 1 or greater. If not, definitely use a jig and keep the counter at 0.
If you're over 0, don't worry, try anyways. As stated, I've yet to see anyone get called out on the flash counter on a warranty exchange...
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cwm doesnt add to the counter, odin does
xcrazydx said:
cwm doesnt add to the counter, odin does
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That's what I thought until I flashed DaG's custom CM7 kernel. Flashing a custom kernel in cwm can in fact trip the counter.
It appears that most "stock-ish" kernels do not trip the counter however...
Your camera FC'ing, did u ever think of doing a wipe, flash a diff ROM, fix permissions all in one session of using recovery?? That should've fixed it for you. FCin'g almost doesn't have anything to do with hardware failing; hardware fails would probably cause more serious issues like black screens, automatic power offs, overheating, etc.
skrambled said:
That's what I thought until I flashed DaG's custom CM7 kernel. Flashing a custom kernel in cwm can in fact trip the counter.
It appears that most "stock-ish" kernels do not trip the counter however...
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I see, thanks for the info, I didn't know that
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Some Kernel
Speaking of RMA and warranty, would AT&T/Samsung cover you even if you don't have the receipt? I'm thinking of buying a skyrocket for a family member off of eBay and most sellers don't have the receipts or refuse to include it. If the phone prematurely has a hardware failure I would want a replacement within the 1 year warranty period.
Samsung states that you must have the receipt for RMA but that's ridiculous. Don't they have on record when the phone was bought, etc like how Apple does it?
Anyone have experience with warranty dealings with AT&T or Samsung?
Sorry if I posted in the wrong place. I'm still noob at this.
Altarocks said:
Probably. It's lame I'm getting a refurb after paying $200 less than two months ago. Refurbs are $50. But as long as I get a working device...
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I was lucky, got my refurb for $9.99
fongz27 said:
Your camera FC'ing, did u ever think of doing a wipe, flash a diff ROM, fix permissions all in one session of using recovery?? That should've fixed it for you. FCin'g almost doesn't have anything to do with hardware failing; hardware fails would probably cause more serious issues like black screens, automatic power offs, overheating, etc.
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Not all in one session. But both ATT and I wiped and flashed stock with same result.

Samsung's Policy on root

Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
lardo5150 said:
Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
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yes
DrADP said:
yes
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Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
lardo5150 said:
Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
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Yes. Samsung devices can usually be fully returned to stock.
The bootloader is fully unlocked, with the exception of the flash counter which tracks how many times you've flashed custom recoveries or kernels in download mode. However, on most other devices it is now known how to reset that counter - fairly sure we'll be able to reset this one as well. It's top of my priorities list.
Officially rooting voids your warranty, but that policy may be illegal in the United States due to the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act.
I'm really liking the looks of this! :good:
So glad I returned my TF700 for this beauty. It's supposed to be here by UPS within the next hour. :fingers-crossed:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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And if you really mess something up I've heard that 5 seconds in a microwave oven is enough so that the repair center won't be able to tell if the device have been rooted or not...
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iamchocho said:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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Counter reset is a go - I'm going to release tonight since that's a critical feature, although until I fix the wifi derpiness people will probably want to flash back to a stock kernel afterwards. (e.g. flash custom recovery, flash custom kernel, reset counter, flash stock kernel, keep custom recovery.)

i535 Rooting/ROM'ing level of difficulty/risk

So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
jayjr1105 said:
So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
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I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Deliquified said:
I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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I haven't checked that link out yet but how easy is it to go back to the Verizon stock ROM if need be?
Does the ROM procedure go something like this?...
Power Off, DL mode with jig, ODIN a CWM or Kernel package with CWM, mount SD, drag and drop ROM, Flash, win?
well...
well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
eorly420 said:
well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
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There is already an in depth tutorial for that as well as one for those who have the recent OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
The above link is those with the jelly bean OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
This above is the in depth guide I was talking about. It was posted on 7/10/12. So there is no need for another tutorial unless you found a new way to do it. If you are talking about RootDebugFS then there is a tutorial for that here as well as the SuperSU version here as well.
I also came from a fascinate which was super easy to flash. As long as you read up on your homework this phone is cake to flash.
You shouldn't have many problems. If you need help, PM me. I'm glad to help.
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So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
jayjr1105 said:
So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
jayjr1105 said:
Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
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If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
prdog1 said:
If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
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Is there a way to just see if you tripped the flash counter without Triangle Away?

Soft or Hard Bricked?

I have Just bricked Gs3 d2vzw. I am trying to flash via odin, but odin keeps giving me a an pit partition error. What can I do now?
if you can get into ODIN, you're not hardbricked.
you can restore a stock factory image using PDA, not the PIT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114
suchavibrantthang said:
if you can get into ODIN, you're not hardbricked.
you can restore a stock factory image using PDA, not the PIT.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1974114
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I tried that, it won't let me do that. However I installed the pit file and then installed the stock firmware and it worked. I migh have to give Verizon a call however. Good thing I reset the counter. How can I go back to completely stock (the way I bought it)? Lock the downloader and codon back to stock? How is the counter tripped? By unlocking the bootloader or locking the bootloader? Or by flashing a Rom?
Another person abusing the system. You take the risk of bricking your phone when you decide to flash things. Own up to your mistakes and pay for a new one through insurance.
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Well if if the system wouldn't make it so damn difficult to flash roms...
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You do realize that instances such as this are the reason why Verizon doesn't want anyone to be able to flash anything, don't you? I don't like their business practices, as most others on here don't, but I don't think it is their place to replace a phone that has been damaged by user error either. The sad thing is that all of us have to pay for it every month with their inflated pricing to help cover other people's mistakes.
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Soft-bricked is more like Sponged...just waiting to soak up new OS.
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You do realize that instances such as this are the reason why Verizon doesn't want anyone to be able to flash anything, don't you? I don't like their business practices, as most others on here don't, but I don't think it is their place to replace a phone that has been damaged by user error either. The sad thing is that all of us have to pay for it every month with their inflated pricing to help cover other people's mistakes.
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Who said that I was abusing the system? I was talking about to reset the device so I can get a new device because they won't give me a device unless if it is on stock. (I have insurance with them). I am not abusing the system. Also there is also another problem that I need to talk to them about. Could you explain to me how I was abusing the system? I was not going to talk to them and play dumb and get a replacement phone.
If you are using insurance, they could care less about whether it is stock or not. Also, if you are not abusing the system, that is obviously not directed at you. I have not seen anything short of hardware problems that couldn't be fixed with a lot of searching and some work. There are lots of answers out there covering about every type of problem that you can imagine with the exception of hard bricks, hardware failures, etc.
Like I said, if you are not trying to exchange your phone because you flashed something and are too lazy to try and fix it, my comment was not directed at you. However, if that is what you are doing, there is an old saying "if the shoe fits"......
After my second post, I finally fixed it. It was a damn pit file and that booted the ROM with factory test. Then I got that fixed and all is well.
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If you are using insurance, they could care less about whether it is stock or not.
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Interestingly Verizon told be on the phone last night that they charge $199 USD if the software on the phone has been tampered with on an insurance exchange.
Granted if the phone is truly bricked it is unlikely that they can/will bother to tell.
I wounder if this is something new they started doing?

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