So i have heard ups and downs about this tablet but i have heard best way to get its max performance is but installing a rom i was wondering if i install a rom can i just return the tablet to stock and the store not know? they have a 30 day return policy in case i don't like the tablet i can return it. But if they can tell its been rooted then they probably wont take it back
kittyslasher said:
So i have heard ups and downs about this tablet but i have heard best way to get its max performance is but installing a rom i was wondering if i install a rom can i just return the tablet to stock and the store not know? they have a 30 day return policy in case i don't like the tablet i can return it. But if they can tell its been rooted then they probably wont take it back
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If you just rooted, yes you can undo, but to install custom rom, you need to unlock and NO, you can't undo this. If you unlock and decided to return, if the guy is looking for it, YES they would know. It will shows "device is unlock" right on the screen during boot up and unlock will void your warranty, but not root.
buhohitr said:
If you just rooted, yes you can undo, but to install custom rom, you need to unlock and NO, you can't undo this. If you unlock and decided to return, if the guy is looking for it, YES they would know. It will shows "device is unlock" right on the screen during boot up and unlock will void your warranty, but not root.
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UGH damn it, well its either this or the google nexus 10. Would you recommend the tablet? i like the processor i like the gpu just hate the 1 gb of ram and apparently it runs sluggish and like hell
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I did the easy unroor because my usb port is broke. But the superuser app is still there and I cant get rid of it. Need to rma. Any ideas?
I know of a guaranteed way to return to stock, but it's done through NVFlash in which you will need your usb port. You could either...
1. Look into other ways to return to stock which doesn't involve using your usb port (not likely)
2. Go to asus's website and download the firmware and place onto an sd card and see if you can do it that way. Even still, I'm not sure if that will just update, or wipe and update.
3. Shut down your TF and boot up by holding the volume down + power until you get to the option to wipe data and see if that does the trick. Once you get to that option, you only have like 5 10 seconds to select to wipe. If you don't select to wipe, then it will timeout and reboot
cavsoldier19d said:
I know of a guaranteed way to return to stock, but it's done through NVFlash in which you will need your usb port. You could either...
1. Look into other ways to return to stock which doesn't involve using your usb port (not likely)
2. Go to asus's website and download the firmware and place onto an sd card and see if you can do it that way. Even still, I'm not sure if that will just update, or wipe and update.
3. Shut down your TF and boot up by holding the volume down + power until you get to the option to wipe data and see if that does the trick. Once you get to that option, you only have like 5 10 seconds to select to wipe. If you don't select to wipe, then it will timeout and reboot
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I already installed the original stock rom. And also flashed the stock recovery. I wiped everything each time. But after all that superuser is still there.
Well that sucks. I know of a way to do a full wipe of everything by using a full wipe utility that is flashed by clockworkmod recovery. But then you would have to find a way to restore the stock recovery in order to flash the stock rom. If you do a full wipe without reflashing a rom, then you will have soft bricked it. You might be SOL on that.
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Well that sucks. I know of a way to do a full wipe of everything by using a full wipe utility that is flashed by clockworkmod recovery. But then you would have to find a way to restore the stock recovery in order to flash the stock rom. If you do a full wipe without reflashing a rom, then you will have soft bricked it. You might be SOL on that.
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So you think if I wipe it so its in the initial setup. That asus will set it up and see superuser. I mean can they even prove anything just cause theres an app there.
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So you think if I wipe it so its in the initial setup. That asus will set it up and see superuser. I mean can they even prove anything just cause theres an app there.
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Not sure about that. Ideally, when doing rma returns, to be on the safe side, you want to make it completely transparent that it was ever rooted/rom'ed. I've read posts where some people were successful with returns/exchanges while the device was rooted, without repercussions. It's all up to the return policies of where you bought it, as well as asus. Considering that asus has gone out of their way to change and lock down the bootloader on newer revisions, apparently asus does not want to be development friendly at this time, and may penalize you for returning a modified system.
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Not sure about that. Ideally, when doing rma returns, to be on the safe side, you want to make it completely transparent that it was ever rooted/rom'ed. I've read posts where some people were successful with returns/exchanges while the device was rooted, without repercussions. It's all up to the return policies of where you bought it, as well as asus. Considering that asus has gone out of their way to change and lock down the bootloader on newer revisions, apparently asus does not want to be development friendly at this time, and may penalize you for returning a modified system.
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Yah I know man thats what I'm afraid of. I mean anyone can install superuser. But I guess though it wouldn't be there on a clean install
Kind of stuck here. Its too late to return tot he store. But I don't want to be stuck with a bad usb port forever. I guess the worst that can happen is they refuse it.
Or if they accept it at first, then asus realizes that its been rooted, they could send u a bill for full price of the replacement. Although I've never heard of that happening. Another extreme measure u could look into is seeing if u could order a motherboard or replacement parts and fix it yourself.
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Or if they accept it at first, then asus realizes that its been rooted, they could send u a bill for full price of the replacement. Although I've never heard of that happening. Another extreme measure u could look into is seeing if u could order a motherboard or replacement parts and fix it yourself.
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Ouch that would suck, as far as doing it myself I really don't want to mess with popping it open. It still charges, but I can't hook it to a pc. So I would rather have it like that then broken because I opened it.
I guess I'll just put it off a little more.
True. If I were u, I would take my chances with returning it. Just make sure u have the cash just in case they decide to be dicks about it.
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Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
lardo5150 said:
Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
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DrADP said:
yes
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Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
lardo5150 said:
Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
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Yes. Samsung devices can usually be fully returned to stock.
The bootloader is fully unlocked, with the exception of the flash counter which tracks how many times you've flashed custom recoveries or kernels in download mode. However, on most other devices it is now known how to reset that counter - fairly sure we'll be able to reset this one as well. It's top of my priorities list.
Officially rooting voids your warranty, but that policy may be illegal in the United States due to the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act.
I'm really liking the looks of this! :good:
So glad I returned my TF700 for this beauty. It's supposed to be here by UPS within the next hour. :fingers-crossed:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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And if you really mess something up I've heard that 5 seconds in a microwave oven is enough so that the repair center won't be able to tell if the device have been rooted or not...
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iamchocho said:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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Counter reset is a go - I'm going to release tonight since that's a critical feature, although until I fix the wifi derpiness people will probably want to flash back to a stock kernel afterwards. (e.g. flash custom recovery, flash custom kernel, reset counter, flash stock kernel, keep custom recovery.)
I believe on the TF300 its not possible, but I am curious if it is possible on this device? I would honestly love to install custom ROMs, but after spending an hour on the phone with squaretrade today if I purchased a warranty through them, unlocking would void their warranty as well, so I would really hate to spend $450 and lose all hope of getting it serviced if it breaks a week later.
Thanks for the help guys, currently stuck if I want to spend the extra $150 on this or just keep my TF300. I mainly want to use it as a game machine and sadly need to root to use a controller (I don't have the dock).
Thanks!
Edit: This is guessing that the device will come with JB rom, I see it can be rooted unlocked with ICS.
You can root without having to be unlocked, yes.You need to be sure that you're NOT on JB, though. Firmware .30 or earlier on ICS can be rooted with the debugfs method listed on this forum. You will lose root once you upgrade to JB again, though. Unless you use OTA Rootkeeper to backup the root. There is currently no way to root the tablet on JB without being unlocked or downgrading.
Firebrazer said:
You can root without having to be unlocked, yes.You need to be sure that you're NOT on JB, though. Firmware .30 or earlier on ICS can be rooted with the debugfs method listed on this forum. You will lose root once you upgrade to JB again, though. Unless you use OTA Rootkeeper to backup the root. There is currently no way to root the tablet on JB without being unlocked or downgrading.
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I did read about that and was rather happy to see it. Then its just a matter of hoping mine comes with the right firmware. Just curious as i've never had to do it before. Is it easy to unroot if it is needed to be sent in for repair? I know SuperSU has an option that removes root files to switch superuser apps, just not sure if thats thorough enough.
Thanks!
Yes, unrooting is fairly easy. You can always reset it using the stock recovery. I don't actually think you will have to unroot it, though. You'll lose your warranty if you unlock the bootloader, not if you just root, afaik.
Firebrazer said:
Yes, unrooting is fairly easy. You can always reset it using the stock recovery. I don't actually think you will have to unroot it, though. You'll lose your warranty if you unlock the bootloader, not if you just root, afaik.
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Yeah, thats why I am looking into just rooting for now.
Thank you so much for the help, gonna go snag this up while its on sale for $449. Hopefully I can put up with the stock lag and everything people complain about
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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You could unroot the device. What is done can be undone.
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You could unroot the device. What is done can be undone.
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I think he's saying it because the recovery on this phone actually says if you have rooted the phone or not, if that's the case then yeah you lost your warranty like me
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So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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Correct, but I believe they would actually NEED the phone to tell this. So if you are rooted, the best thing to do would be to "lose" your phone....
christian5916 said:
I think he's saying it because the recovery on this phone actually says if you have rooted the phone or not, if that's the case then yeah you lost your warranty like me
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Technically correct.
But Motorola / Verizon will never go through the trouble of proving an unroot for purposes of denying warranty.
The reason is because it is cheaper and faster to just process a warranty request, than to spend the time investigating reasons why they should deny a warranty.
kent1146 said:
Technically correct.
But Motorola / Verizon will never go through the trouble of proving an unroot for purposes of denying warranty.
The reason is because it is cheaper and faster to just process a warranty request, than to spend the time investigating reasons why they should deny a warranty.
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That's true, ClaroPR just send the phone to the technicians and if they don't find anything funny they exchange it
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thanks, it was really helpful
xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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There actually are two bits that gets set in the rom when you root the device that is displayed when you go into recovery. If the phone is currently rooted both bits show as true. Even if you unroot, one bit acts as a history bit so you get a 0 for current root and a 1 for previously rooted. The only way to clear the history bit is to reflash the stock rom with RSDLite. If you do this everything goes back to original state. I've personally done this and it works.
When to root...
I've been considering updating to JB but it is when to root is the question. Right now I'm rooted on stock ICS and it was a really simple process. However, I've read that after JB, in order to root you need to unlock the bootloader and install CWM. It is the bootloader unlocking that will void your warranty since you have to basically ask Motorola permission to do it.
I'm hoping that somehow someone will find a method of upgrading to JB and keeping root, or upgrading and getting root again without unlocking the bootloader. I've only had my XT925 for less than a week, so I'm not ready to void my warranty.
biKF said:
I've been considering updating to JB but it is when to root is the question. Right now I'm rooted on stock ICS and it was a really simple process. However, I've read that after JB, in order to root you need to unlock the bootloader and install CWM. It is the bootloader unlocking that will void your warranty since you have to basically ask Motorola permission to do it.
I'm hoping that somehow someone will find a method of upgrading to JB and keeping root, or upgrading and getting root again without unlocking the bootloader. I've only had my XT925 for less than a week, so I'm not ready to void my warranty.
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Woah woah, all you need it the OTA RootKeeper, and then you should be able to OTA to JB and keep root. You shouldn't have to mess with the bootloader at all, unless the 925 is significantly different from the 926, but I don't think it is.
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Woah woah, all you need it the OTA RootKeeper, and then you should be able to OTA to JB and keep root. You shouldn't have to mess with the bootloader at all, unless the 925 is significantly different from the 926, but I don't think it is.
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Unfortunately, OTA Root Keeper did not keep the root after my JB upgrade.
So I'm running into difficulties updating to jellybean.
I'm rooted on stock 4.04,with the bootloader unlocked, and have vodoo ota installed.
When installing the update, it prompts me in cwm to install the untrusted package. So I click ok to continue.
A quarter way through it fails and reboots, then continues to reboot continously after it powers up to the home screen.
What am I doing wrong, what should I disable to install this ota update.
Thanks in advance
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What haven't I done?
I have a developer xt926 razr hd that is unlocked at the bootloader. What do I need to complete a root?
Got it with running layers of exploits alternating them. Lost it upgrading a few times. Its fairly easy once you get use to the operating system.
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ok, well the first time i tried install cyanogenmod to my tf300t it didn't go so well and so i ordered another motherboard and installed it and it's a go
but this time i need your help, i just want to make sure i cover all my bases and that nothing goes wrong
right now my tf300t's firmware is 4.2.1, the tablet is still locked and i'm wondering if i'm still able to back everything up with nflash before i do anything else, and i would also like to know what is the best recovery i should install CWM or TWRP and should i even go with Cyanogenmod or is there anything else out that that is better or should i just stay with stock, thanks very much.
ok well it seems i can't unlock the bootloader on this used ebay motherboard, stock firmware it is then i guess
mikeseguin said:
ok well it seems i can't unlock the bootloader on this used ebay motherboard, stock firmware it is then i guess
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i think you need to phone up asus and tell you want to unlock your bootloader