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[Q] Updating a rooted phone?

Hey.
My phone: Htc One X is rooted, and a software update just arrived, if i update, will i loose the root?
Or will it in worst chase get bricked?
I regulary update over the air.
Will this remove the root? and must i unlock bootloader and all that stuff i messed with over again if i need to root again?

I wouldn't do that if I were you, you could loss root and have to start all over, and maybe brick your phone, I would wait and see if a dev for this phone could make the update into a Rom, that would be the safe way to go
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Ok, but if i want to unroot, and i manage to unroot it, would it then be able to update? or will it then brick?
Cause i like to have my devices up to date.

andsa said:
Ok, but if i want to unroot, and i manage to unroot it, would it then be able to update? or will it then brick?
Cause i like to have my devices up to date.
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Then you should be fine
Sent from my HTC_A510c using XDA

Ok, what is the most simple way to unroot?
Is it just to delete SU folders and root folders? or must i do alot of CMD flashing?

Superone click, or flash a ruu wich is a completly stock Rom with stock recovery
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So wait...let me get this straight. You got a $600 phone and decided to root it. You had no clue what you can and can't do with root up to and including an update. And you rooted your phone without knowing how to get back to stock. I am guessing you don't know how to get back to stock because you used a one click root method. WTF would you root $600 phone for if you had no clue what you were doing, and obviously incapable of reading how to reverse what you have done? This is the problem with one click root methods. You get no understanding of the Android system at all. Can I ask, what was the reason you decided to root??

i did not use oneclickroot, but the tool that xda has as an all in one tool for one x.
I rooted to get the fraps smiliar app screencast but it does not have support for tegra 3...
So yes, if i get it back to its original state, i will not attend any more root anymore.
So please, help me get it back to stock painless

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-hSF9oPgfY

Ok, so to get it back to the state when i got the phone and to be able to update painlessly, i have to flash it with a backup stock ROM?

Bump.

[Q] Rooting without unlocking?

I believe on the TF300 its not possible, but I am curious if it is possible on this device? I would honestly love to install custom ROMs, but after spending an hour on the phone with squaretrade today if I purchased a warranty through them, unlocking would void their warranty as well, so I would really hate to spend $450 and lose all hope of getting it serviced if it breaks a week later.
Thanks for the help guys, currently stuck if I want to spend the extra $150 on this or just keep my TF300. I mainly want to use it as a game machine and sadly need to root to use a controller (I don't have the dock).
Thanks!
Edit: This is guessing that the device will come with JB rom, I see it can be rooted unlocked with ICS.

You can root without having to be unlocked, yes.You need to be sure that you're NOT on JB, though. Firmware .30 or earlier on ICS can be rooted with the debugfs method listed on this forum. You will lose root once you upgrade to JB again, though. Unless you use OTA Rootkeeper to backup the root. There is currently no way to root the tablet on JB without being unlocked or downgrading.

Firebrazer said:
You can root without having to be unlocked, yes.You need to be sure that you're NOT on JB, though. Firmware .30 or earlier on ICS can be rooted with the debugfs method listed on this forum. You will lose root once you upgrade to JB again, though. Unless you use OTA Rootkeeper to backup the root. There is currently no way to root the tablet on JB without being unlocked or downgrading.
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I did read about that and was rather happy to see it. Then its just a matter of hoping mine comes with the right firmware. Just curious as i've never had to do it before. Is it easy to unroot if it is needed to be sent in for repair? I know SuperSU has an option that removes root files to switch superuser apps, just not sure if thats thorough enough.
Thanks!

Yes, unrooting is fairly easy. You can always reset it using the stock recovery. I don't actually think you will have to unroot it, though. You'll lose your warranty if you unlock the bootloader, not if you just root, afaik.

Firebrazer said:
Yes, unrooting is fairly easy. You can always reset it using the stock recovery. I don't actually think you will have to unroot it, though. You'll lose your warranty if you unlock the bootloader, not if you just root, afaik.
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Yeah, thats why I am looking into just rooting for now.
Thank you so much for the help, gonna go snag this up while its on sale for $449. Hopefully I can put up with the stock lag and everything people complain about

To root or not

I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.

If is the same old story. If you root, you can customize to your heart's content and have access to new things sooner. However, you void your warranty and can't take OTAs if you root. I wouldn't chance waiting to do it later of you are going to do it, chances are Verizon will close the exploit that is currently used and you may never get the access that you have the opportunity to have right now.
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What are your needs? This is really a question only you can answer.
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If you found your way to XDA, then ROOT, ROOT, ROOT!!!!

All i used root for on my Bionic was to block ads and acess to more of the phones files. The bootlader was still locked so that is all we could do. On my Droid Eris I changed cpu speeds a ton of files. So I am debating.
Is there a way to get back to stock similar to FXZ?

Root. It adds so much more fun to owning the phone, and the variety in ROM's are great for the S3.

You can root and leave it at that to block ads and use wireless hotspot. Two main reasons I root initially. Then I get bored and go the custom roms route.
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waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.

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jellywiz and it's great! It is completely stock. AND ALL of the apps like media hub work. I tired cm 10 and didn't like it. I lost so much like the swipe hand across the screen for screen shot, video while texting, mediahub, nfl mobile here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1853337
Battery was about 90% of stock which I think is great.

buhohitr said:
Why not? this is an easy decision, root it and play with it, for some reason you don't like it, you can go back to factory stock easily. By the way root will not void warranty, unlock will, but you can alway relock or unroot. So there you have it. It's safe, easy and reverable. Go for it!
If you rooted, you still can take the OTA upgrade no problem, just download and install Voodoo OTA root keeper, save root, take the OTA then restore root (take 1min to do so). Now if you unlock, you won't able to take OTA, however the main reason why you unlocked is you want to run custom rom, so if you are using custom rom then you don't care about OTA. Once the new OTA comes out, you just wait a bit and developers here will create a custom rom for the new release OTA.
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Thats what I wanted to know, if it is easy to return to stock. Ill root when i get back to my dorms. I forgot my cord and im in class

If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing

I forgot about that is the official google tether apk in the play store yet?

You can delete failbook, that is REASON enough to root.
Google has a tethering apk? Where is it?

binkies said:
If for wifi tether alone rooting is always worth it as far as I am concerned. That is one of the best features out there, then again I guess you may be able to do that for free anyway after that fcc thing
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You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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jonapunk said:
You already can for free I've been doing since I got Verizon in Aug
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Only people on shared data plans can do it for free

Just use FoxFi or pdaNET... Both work and are free 99!
Sent From The Galaxy via ICS

waffleb051 said:
I just got an S3 from an upgrade. Should I root it (this isnt my first android phone i know what I will be getting into) with the jelly bean update on the rise? If I do root when the update comes out will it matter if I am rooted/ bootloader unlocked, or will the update just erase all the root.
Back when I had my Droid Bionic it DID matter if we where rooted when an update rolled around.
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Root, then download the rooted OTA. I love to tinker with my phone all day
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I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest

ooofest said:
I've rooted and unrooted my phone a few times for specific needs, but will not unlock the bootloader until the weird IMEI issue is clearly found (and made avoidable).
So, will just wait for the official JellyBean OTA update.
- ooofest
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There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.

buhohitr said:
There're 2 Verizon stock Jelly Bean leaks, I'm running it and so forth pretty smooth. This is pure stock, you're going to lose root if you flash them.
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True, but I'm banking on a forthcoming method to obtain root after the OTA hits. Maybe somehow backlevel to a stock ICS build and root from there, etc. Or, maybe I'll never get root back after the OTA hits. Guess we'll see.
- ooofest

New to Moto not rooting

Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using xda app-developers app

hunter82i said:
Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using xda app-developers app
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Unlocking boot loader voids your warranty. That's the only con in my book. The pro is device is rootable for life, without having to wait for hackers to find exploits.
If you want to keep your root (4.1.1 to 4.1.2) without unlocking boot loader, you should look into Voodoo OTA keeper in the store. It essentially lets you do the OTA update and keep your root.

hunter82i said:
Alright guys... Been reading a bunch on the rooting process for maxx HD. I have a few questions that are probably obvious but coming from HTC this device is totally different.
I am currently on stock 4.1.1 not rooted 926 non Dev. Phone came like this I didn't update. Now I have the 4.1.2 update waiting to install but I keep pushing it off because I would like to keep the ability to root.
Am I correct in assuming that if I take the new update it will eliminate the possibility of getting root until a new method is discovered?
Is it true that unlocking the boot loader has some negatives?
What would you recommend I do to keep my options open?
Thanks for any help.
Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using xda app-developers app
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It sounds to me as if the issue isn't so much the need for a new root method, but simply a new way to get the phone back to 4.04 so that it can be rooted using the same method. The utility everyone has been using to go back to 4.04 supposedly won't work after the update.

Megaroad said:
It sounds to me as if the issue isn't so much the need for a new root method, but simply a new way to get the phone back to 4.04 so that it can be rooted using the same method. The utility everyone has been using to go back to 4.04 supposedly won't work after the update.
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Are people generally thinking reverting back to 4.04 will be possible? Probably a hard question to answer I know.
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xdracco said:
Unlocking boot loader voids your warranty. That's the only con in my book. The pro is device is rootable for life, without having to wait for hackers to find exploits.
If you want to keep your root (4.1.1 to 4.1.2) without unlocking boot loader, you should look into Voodoo OTA keeper in the store. It essentially lets you do the OTA update and keep your root.
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OK, so if i use the utility to downgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.0.4, then root and follow the process to protect root... would I need to upgrade back to 4.1.1 first and then to 4.1.2? Thanks again.

hunter82i said:
OK, so if i use the utility to downgrade from 4.1.1 to 4.0.4, then root and follow the process to protect root... would I need to upgrade back to 4.1.1 first and then to 4.1.2? Thanks again.
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I'm kinda in the same boat. I _am_ rooted with voodoo. Now here comes 4.1.2 ota. I postponed to temp unroot with voodoo, but want to make sure I will actually still have root permissions after taking the update. I have read/searched a ton (kw: OTA RAZR HD, etc.) but the only things I think I understand so far are ...
1. Once you take the OTA you cannot go back to ICS.
2. If you have seriously tweaked your phone, say by deleting a bunch of verizonware, you may get an error saying you can't upgrade.
Is that about what you all are getting too.
Anyone rooted on xt926 who voodoo temp unrooted to take the update, can you pls share your experiences? Did you keep root? Did you get any errors during the update? How did you modify your phone from stock?
Thx!
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bwanamarko said:
I'm kinda in the same boat. I _am_ rooted with voodoo. Now here comes 4.1.2 ota. I postponed to temp unroot with voodoo, but want to make sure I will actually still have root permissions after taking the update. I have read/searched a ton (kw: OTA RAZR HD, etc.) but the only things I think I understand so far are ...
1. Once you take the OTA you cannot go back to ICS.
2. If you have seriously tweaked your phone, say by deleting a bunch of verizonware, you may get an error saying you can't upgrade.
Is that about what you all are getting too.
Anyone rooted on xt926 who voodoo temp unrooted to take the update, can you pls share your experiences? Did you keep root? Did you get any errors during the update? How did you modify your phone from stock?
Thx!
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Yes that is the feeling I am getting as well. Gotta be on stock 4.1.1 (with all apps/bloat installed). Since the 4.1.2 OTA is out now, will our phones find the 4.1.1 update from 4.0.4?
I don't really care about going back to ICS, but I just don't want to take the update and paint myself in the corner. Likewise, I don't want to downgrade/root/protect and then attempt to upgrade but get stuck.
The other thing to keep in mind is without an unlocked bootloader, kernel controls, radios, etc can't be tweaked or changed anyway. I may just keep this thing stock. Other than debloating/tethering, it is starting to seem like rooting with a locked bootloader isn't gaining you much.
I'll probably just keep lurking until I understand the device better. Motorola really seems like they don't want to have this device unlocked.

hunter82i said:
Yes that is the feeling I am getting as well. Gotta be on stock 4.1.1 (with all apps/bloat installed). Since the 4.1.2 OTA is out now, will our phones find the 4.1.1 update from 4.0.4?
I don't really care about going back to ICS, but I just don't want to take the update and paint myself in the corner. Likewise, I don't want to downgrade/root/protect and then attempt to upgrade but get stuck.
The other thing to keep in mind is without an unlocked bootloader, kernel controls, radios, etc can't be tweaked or changed anyway. I may just keep this thing stock. Other than debloating/tethering, it is starting to seem like rooting with a locked bootloader isn't gaining you much.
I'll probably just keep lurking until I understand the device better. Motorola really seems like they don't want to have this device unlocked.
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I found this xda post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196855
which points to a post on droid life with some info from @mattlgroff
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/18/download-motorola-droid-razr-hd-update-9-16-6-android-4-1-2/
which confirms no back to ICS (so use his win RAZR HD util 1.10 to revert and root first followed by voodoo install & temp unroot) then OTA 4.1.2, but only if 100% stock ROM, so best to do right after rooting and OTA to JB.
So I took the update to 4.1.2, and it worked! And I still have root!! I did temp unroot first, checking with root checker basic. My only fear was I had uninstalled some bloat: NFL, Audible, slacker, etc., but maybe o could've uninstalled those without tibu? (I know, freeze or move, I promise next time I will, but I lucked out this time! Thx moto/vzw.)
So all is good!
So so sorry for those who didn't root 1st or who didn't unroot first. Hopefully the unlock bounty will be accepted and you'll be able to flash cm10 in the future?
To me there isn't really indispensible value in rooting _unless_ you are going to use safe strap to install a custom ROM like batakang. (BTW: I am **super** grateful to Dan and Matt for providing the exploit &utility!!!). You can get WiFi tether w/o root now (see open garden or foxfi) and you can hide (disable) much bloat using stock. Of course tibu is a nice bonus that does require root, so each person will have to decide for themselves, but take heart that if you didn't get root you may not be missing much.
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OK, just to get this straight, was this your process...
1. Revert back to 4.0.4.
2. Temp Unroot
3. OTA Update to 4.1.1????
4. OTA Update to 4.1.2????
5. Restore Root

bwanamarko said:
I found this xda post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2196855
which points to a post on droid life with some info from @mattlgroff
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/18/download-motorola-droid-razr-hd-update-9-16-6-android-4-1-2/
which confirms no back to ICS (so use his win RAZR HD util 1.10 to revert and root first followed by voodoo install & temp unroot) then OTA 4.1.2, but only if 100% stock ROM, so best to do right after rooting and OTA to JB.
So I took the update to 4.1.2, and it worked! And I still have root!! I did temp unroot first, checking with root checker basic. My only fear was I had uninstalled some bloat: NFL, Audible, slacker, etc., but maybe o could've uninstalled those without tibu? (I know, freeze or move, I promise next time I will, but I lucked out this time! Thx moto/vzw.)
So all is good!
So so sorry for those who didn't root 1st or who didn't unroot first. Hopefully the unlock bounty will be accepted and you'll be able to flash cm10 in the future?
To me there isn't really indispensible value in rooting _unless_ you are going to use safe strap to install a custom ROM like batakang. (BTW: I am **super** grateful to Dan and Matt for providing the exploit &utility!!!). You can get WiFi tether w/o root now (see open garden or foxfi) and you can hide (disable) much bloat using stock. Of course tibu is a nice bonus that does require root, so each person will have to decide for themselves, but take heart that if you didn't get root you may not be missing much.
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OK, So after reverting back and temp unroot, did you take both the 4.1.1 and the 4.1.2 updates?

hunter82i said:
OK, So after reverting back and temp unroot, did you take both the 4.1.1 and the 4.1.2 updates?
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Yes essentially. Actually there was about a week in between, during which time I deleted some bloat, but don't do that. Do as I say, not as I do!
Process should be something like:
0. Back up everything!
1. Use @mattlgroff windows RAZR HD utility 1.10 to
(A) revert back to ICS and wipe everything
(B) get root via @djrbliss motofail2go debglug exploit & install su, busybox
(C) install voodoo ota root keeper & protect root
(D) install safe strap
2. Temp unroot
3. Get 6mb update (some say do between 1A &B, but I did it here and lycked out.
4. Get JB update
5. Now here check out matt's post on how to upgrade and keep root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=39497138#post39497138
He's says to install ICS on one of safe straps slots. I skipped this step - think if you needed to you could do it later, but its a good idea b/c we know ICS is rootable, although if you loose root can't boot safe strap. Hm, have to read up on that.
6. Take latest 4.1.2 ota. You cannot ho back to ICS now unless you have it on safe strap.
7. Restore root with voodoo
Enjpy
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[Q] N5 Root, is it a good Idea?

So I have always rooted my phones in the past.
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 because well, it needed KitKat and Samsung is lame...
Now I am faced with the decision to root or not to root. My N5 is awesome it has Full support and is the raw experience I want, rooting would let me have a little more fun in the way of mods and tweaks, but all the problems everyone seems to be having is kinda putting me off so I guess I just need help.
Also there is a difference between unlocking boot loader and rooting, does the unlocking void warranty?

All guides and info threads are linked in my signature and will answer almost all your questions
I'm not sure of all these "problems" you're referring to. Basically, idiots have the most problems. Normal people don't really have any
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rootSU said:
Basically, idiots have the most problems. Normal people don't really have any
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this. i have been rooted since day one and have ZERO problems.

I think this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54746284&postcount=8
Applies here too, what do you think, @rootSU?

Right. Root doesn't modify files that can cause an issue assuming you're doing it right. I'd highly recommend NOT using a toolkit and rooting yourself and unlocking the bootloader yourself, it assures nothing goes wrong and you get some experience.
rootSU's guide are a treasure trove of information, take a looksie.

unlocking the bootloader lets you flash a custom recovery to flash things, it has nothing to do with root. you can flash any roms or kernels you want, without root. all root does is give you permission to change system files. and you would flash the root zip in your new recovery once you unlock the bootloader.

simms22 said:
unlocking the bootloader lets you flash a custom recovery to flash things, it has nothing to do with root. you can flash any roms or kernels you want, without root. all root does is give you permission to change system files. and you would flash the root zip in your new recovery once you unlock the bootloader.
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So would unlocking the boot loader void the warranty?

Spectrys said:
So would unlocking the boot loader void the warranty?
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depending on who you bought it from, yes and no. but anyways, you can lock the bootloader after as well, easily. generally, google will still except warrenty if the bootloader is unlocked for any hardware issue. other companies will void the warrenty, including LG. but again, it can be relocked

simms22 said:
depending on who you bought it from, yes and no. but anyways, you can lock the bootloader after as well, easily. generally, google will still except warrenty if the bootloader is unlocked for any hardware issue. other companies will void the warrenty, including LG. but again, it can be relocked
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So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.

Spectrys said:
So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
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yup. anything that needs to be flashed will go through your custom recovery, which needs an unlocked boitloader to get flashed onto your device. then youll use that recovery to flash things, and make backups.

Spectrys said:
So would unlocking allow me to do things like mods, such as rings and boot screens?
Sorry kinda new to boot loaders.
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Unlocking the bootloader is a requirement in order to use a custom recovery. And most mods are installed by flashable zips in recovery. So yes kind of required.
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Awesome! You guys are great I am going to unlock later today or tomorrow.
Now next question the ota updates will I be able to install those if I keep stock with an unlocked boot loader?

Spectrys said:
Awesome! You guys are great I am going to unlock later today or tomorrow.
Now next question the ota updates will I be able to install those if I keep stock with an unlocked boot loader?
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If you click the link in my signature, theres a thread about ota. All guides and info is there. Every question you've asked today is answered there
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Pretty sure you told me that earlier, thanks.
Looking at it now.

Spectrys said:
Pretty sure you told me that earlier, thanks.
Looking at it now.
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Yepp. Loads of good stuff there
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sure
root is best thing to do . just root and install custom kernel

MohamedHusseinMohamed said:
root is best thing to do . just root and install custom kernel
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you do not need root to install custom kernels
all you need root for is to change system files. well, that's all root does, is give you permission.

Spectrys said:
So I have always rooted my phones in the past.
I rooted my Samsung Galaxy S2 because well, it needed KitKat and Samsung is lame...
Now I am faced with the decision to root or not to root. My N5 is awesome it has Full support and is the raw experience I want, rooting would let me have a little more fun in the way of mods and tweaks, but all the problems everyone seems to be having is kinda putting me off so I guess I just need help.
Also there is a difference between unlocking boot loader and rooting, does the unlocking void warranty?
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You have to unlock the boot loader in order to root. Personally at this time I would not root because of android L around the corner. With rooting, you can longer receive ota's. Yes it fun to tweak but if I were in your position I wouldn't....
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dec1153 said:
With rooting, you can longer receive ota's.
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Not true. You can receive OTA's if rooted (read the OTA help-desk thread) However, what's the big deal about OTA's?
1) You can get a rooted rom flashed based on the latest build BEFORE you get the OTA
2) Much less to go wrong that way than with OTA.
I think too many people put too much importance in OTA updates. Its a poor method of delivery and not even quick

rootSU said:
Not true. You can receive OTA's if rooted (read the OTA help-desk thread) However, what's the big deal about OTA's?
1) You can get a rooted rom flashed based on the latest build BEFORE you get the OTA
2) Much less to go wrong that way than with OTA.
I think too many people put too much importance in OTA updates. Its a poor method of delivery and not even quick
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Personally, I think that if you don't know how to update manually and are completely reliant on OTAs, then you shouldn't have root access in the first place because you don't know what you're doing.