Is there any way to remove all the bloatware without voiding the warranty,rooting, and so I can update when ICS EVENTUALLY comes out? thanks
motez23 said:
Is there any way to remove all the bloatware without voiding the warranty,rooting, and so I can update when ICS EVENTUALLY comes out? thanks
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Not that I am aware of. But if you still want to update via kies just use titanium and freeze the bloat. But I am not aware of any way to root without voiding warranty. I know there is the back to stock using Odin, along with the flash counter reset
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LiveFaster said:
Not that I am aware of. But if you still want to update via kies just use titanium and freeze the bloat. But I am not aware of any way to root without voiding warranty. I know there is the back to stock using Odin, along with the flash counter reset
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Yeah theres no way of doing it without rooting your phone. But, you are not necessarily voiding your warranty by rooting your phone. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act lets you root your phone and not void your warranty. Just root it, install a custom ROM, enjoy the hell out of it until ICS comes out (IF it ever comes out and T-Mobile decides to get off their lazy butts and do something productive). And IF it does come out, just use Odin to return to stock, and reset the flash counter. You'll be good to go.
Please post questions in the Q&A/General section. This section is for development (roms, kernel, recovery, etc.).
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crazydrummer95 said:
Yeah theres no way of doing it without rooting your phone. But, you are not necessarily voiding your warranty by rooting your phone. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act lets you root your phone and not void your warranty. Just root it, install a custom ROM, enjoy the hell out of it until ICS comes out (IF it ever comes out and T-Mobile decides to get off their lazy butts and do something productive). And IF it does come out, just use Odin to return to stock, and reset the flash counter. You'll be good to go.
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Alright cool, and I know how to return to stock but what is this flash counter business lol.
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Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
lardo5150 said:
Dumb question.
Rooting still voids warranty here correct?
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yes
DrADP said:
yes
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Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
lardo5150 said:
Can root be obtained on a sumsung device without unlocking?
My tf700 could be rooted, and then unlocked if you wanted. THis would be nice, cause you could root, but if needing to send it in, you could remove the root.
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Yes. Samsung devices can usually be fully returned to stock.
The bootloader is fully unlocked, with the exception of the flash counter which tracks how many times you've flashed custom recoveries or kernels in download mode. However, on most other devices it is now known how to reset that counter - fairly sure we'll be able to reset this one as well. It's top of my priorities list.
Officially rooting voids your warranty, but that policy may be illegal in the United States due to the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act.
I'm really liking the looks of this! :good:
So glad I returned my TF700 for this beauty. It's supposed to be here by UPS within the next hour. :fingers-crossed:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
iamchocho said:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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And if you really mess something up I've heard that 5 seconds in a microwave oven is enough so that the repair center won't be able to tell if the device have been rooted or not...
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iamchocho said:
Because Samsung devices have Odin you can almost always return to 100% stock unless u really mess something up. If entropy figures out the counter reset for us then we will really be set. Then if you need to go back to stock for a warranty claim you should be OK as long as it powers on and can get to download mode.
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Counter reset is a go - I'm going to release tonight since that's a critical feature, although until I fix the wifi derpiness people will probably want to flash back to a stock kernel afterwards. (e.g. flash custom recovery, flash custom kernel, reset counter, flash stock kernel, keep custom recovery.)
I am not aware of this, so please help. Will rooting my Tab 2 7.0 end my warranty? I don't want to unlock my bootloader. If not, what's the best rooting method? And also will I be able to get back to my factory default absolutely original ROM?
Thanks all.
aqshyt said:
I am not aware of this, so please help. Will rooting my Tab 2 7.0 end my warranty? I don't want to unlock my bootloader. If not, what's the best rooting method? And also will I be able to get back to my factory default absolutely original ROM?
Thanks all.
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Yes it will end your warranty
But you can restore warranty by using triangle away app 1.95 in these forums (free) or google play (paid) to reset counter to zero
Then flash stock firmware via pc odin from www.samfirmware.com then you can claim warranty as you like and you will I be able to get back to my factory default absolutely original ROM
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So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
jayjr1105 said:
So I had a Galaxy S1 Captivate for about 2 year and my wife has a Fascinate and I rooted/flashed them both like it was my job for the last couple years. I never once hard bricked either and for the most part knew what I was doing. I have a couple home made jigs so DL mode or (soft bricks) were never an issue. My question to you guys is I'm trying to gauge how difficult/risky is it to root and rom the GS3 (Verizon model specifically). The reason I'm wondering this info is because I personally don't own my GS3, it is property of my company and I don't want to chance bricking or not being able to easily flash back to stock unless it has gotten easier or less risky since the original Galaxy lineup. I mean if you had 2.3 bootloaders on your GS1 and you had access to a jig, there was pretty much a 0% chance of hard bricking unless you do something really stupid. Sorry for rambling on!
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I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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Deliquified said:
I came from the Fascinate and this phone is just as easy to flash. Just make sure you read the OP and only flash things made for the US versions and you'll be fine. If something gets hosed, you can always odin back. Here is a great guide to get you started.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
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I haven't checked that link out yet but how easy is it to go back to the Verizon stock ROM if need be?
Does the ROM procedure go something like this?...
Power Off, DL mode with jig, ODIN a CWM or Kernel package with CWM, mount SD, drag and drop ROM, Flash, win?
well...
well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
eorly420 said:
well the good news is that you don't have to flash a custom rom for root. I just rooted and unlocked my phone while still running the stock rom. =) i'd post my tutorial but I'm a new member and I have 8 more posts to do before I can post in development.
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There is already an in depth tutorial for that as well as one for those who have the recent OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2046439
The above link is those with the jelly bean OTA.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1762709
This above is the in depth guide I was talking about. It was posted on 7/10/12. So there is no need for another tutorial unless you found a new way to do it. If you are talking about RootDebugFS then there is a tutorial for that here as well as the SuperSU version here as well.
I also came from a fascinate which was super easy to flash. As long as you read up on your homework this phone is cake to flash.
You shouldn't have many problems. If you need help, PM me. I'm glad to help.
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So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
jayjr1105 said:
So I'm wondering one last thing. I hear about a "flash counter" on the GS3... anything I need to be really careful about to not trip this "counter"? Will Verizon void the warranty if tripped?
Thanks again guys!
Also, I'm going to be using this phone a lot for work and I ported my old personal number to Google Voice so this will be my personal phone as well, so I need the phone to be pretty solid and stable, should I be looking to flash Original ROMs or from the regular development section?
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Once your rooted, you can download Triangle Away from the App Store and that will restore the counter to 0.
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Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
jayjr1105 said:
Thanks! Do you need to run the app every time you flash or just right before you would need to take it in to Verizon for warranty/service?
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If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
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If you unlock bootloader before you flash recovery you will not trip flash counter. If counter is tripped must use Triangle Away while still on stock rom. That being said flash counter does not affect anything except warranty and requires you to Odin stock root, run triangle Away then Odin full stock so best to fix as soon as you root and unlock to avoid extra work at time of return to Verizon.
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Is there a way to just see if you tripped the flash counter without Triangle Away?
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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You could unroot the device. What is done can be undone.
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You could unroot the device. What is done can be undone.
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I think he's saying it because the recovery on this phone actually says if you have rooted the phone or not, if that's the case then yeah you lost your warranty like me
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xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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Correct, but I believe they would actually NEED the phone to tell this. So if you are rooted, the best thing to do would be to "lose" your phone....
christian5916 said:
I think he's saying it because the recovery on this phone actually says if you have rooted the phone or not, if that's the case then yeah you lost your warranty like me
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Technically correct.
But Motorola / Verizon will never go through the trouble of proving an unroot for purposes of denying warranty.
The reason is because it is cheaper and faster to just process a warranty request, than to spend the time investigating reasons why they should deny a warranty.
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Technically correct.
But Motorola / Verizon will never go through the trouble of proving an unroot for purposes of denying warranty.
The reason is because it is cheaper and faster to just process a warranty request, than to spend the time investigating reasons why they should deny a warranty.
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That's true, ClaroPR just send the phone to the technicians and if they don't find anything funny they exchange it
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thanks, it was really helpful
xxaimbkstarxx said:
So i take it that if i root theres no way of getting my warranty back with this phone.
So once rooted they will forever no that i have rooted my device?
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There actually are two bits that gets set in the rom when you root the device that is displayed when you go into recovery. If the phone is currently rooted both bits show as true. Even if you unroot, one bit acts as a history bit so you get a 0 for current root and a 1 for previously rooted. The only way to clear the history bit is to reflash the stock rom with RSDLite. If you do this everything goes back to original state. I've personally done this and it works.
When to root...
I've been considering updating to JB but it is when to root is the question. Right now I'm rooted on stock ICS and it was a really simple process. However, I've read that after JB, in order to root you need to unlock the bootloader and install CWM. It is the bootloader unlocking that will void your warranty since you have to basically ask Motorola permission to do it.
I'm hoping that somehow someone will find a method of upgrading to JB and keeping root, or upgrading and getting root again without unlocking the bootloader. I've only had my XT925 for less than a week, so I'm not ready to void my warranty.
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I've been considering updating to JB but it is when to root is the question. Right now I'm rooted on stock ICS and it was a really simple process. However, I've read that after JB, in order to root you need to unlock the bootloader and install CWM. It is the bootloader unlocking that will void your warranty since you have to basically ask Motorola permission to do it.
I'm hoping that somehow someone will find a method of upgrading to JB and keeping root, or upgrading and getting root again without unlocking the bootloader. I've only had my XT925 for less than a week, so I'm not ready to void my warranty.
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Woah woah, all you need it the OTA RootKeeper, and then you should be able to OTA to JB and keep root. You shouldn't have to mess with the bootloader at all, unless the 925 is significantly different from the 926, but I don't think it is.
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Woah woah, all you need it the OTA RootKeeper, and then you should be able to OTA to JB and keep root. You shouldn't have to mess with the bootloader at all, unless the 925 is significantly different from the 926, but I don't think it is.
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Unfortunately, OTA Root Keeper did not keep the root after my JB upgrade.
So I'm running into difficulties updating to jellybean.
I'm rooted on stock 4.04,with the bootloader unlocked, and have vodoo ota installed.
When installing the update, it prompts me in cwm to install the untrusted package. So I click ok to continue.
A quarter way through it fails and reboots, then continues to reboot continously after it powers up to the home screen.
What am I doing wrong, what should I disable to install this ota update.
Thanks in advance
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What haven't I done?
I have a developer xt926 razr hd that is unlocked at the bootloader. What do I need to complete a root?
Got it with running layers of exploits alternating them. Lost it upgrading a few times. Its fairly easy once you get use to the operating system.
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thinking of using the non-bootloader root method.
if i do this, is there an easy way to go back to non-root? i'm slightly paranoid about getting my warranty flagged if i ever bring my expensive new phone into a sprint store to be serviced. like some kind of factory reset, or an app?
thanks
bonus: is there a bricking risk with the rooting process like there is for flashing an image?
You should be able to simply remove the su binary to "go back". Various root applications can do that for you or you could manually delete the binary yourself.
As far as risk of bricking from this I would say No. Never heard of it happening but anything could be possible I guess.
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