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After trying a couple different soft folio type cases and covers i finally found a perfect HardShell case for my TF700 with the dock.
The Pelican 1075 netbook case with the pluck and pull foam insert.
I realized that I am not that concerned with protection of the tablet while in use, but wanted rock solid protection while in transit. I found that i was constantly cautious when carrying the tablet in either a backpack or bag. Gently putting it down, being careful about what else was in the bag that could bang into it etc.
With this little case once it is closed it is SAFE, i can sit on it, leave it out in the rain, throw it in the trunk of a car and pile bricks on it, what ever. The strap that it comes with is the perfect length to throw over my shoulder (across chest) and when riding the subway open the the case and tablet it stays on my lap.
It takes a bit of glue and double sided carpet tape to keep the foam in place but that's the same with any Pelican case.
I removed all the pluck and pull foam from the center of the piece block of foam, and glued it to the bottom foam sheet with ShoeGoo and once that dried stuck the bottom section in place with double sided carpet tape. The tablet fits perfectly side to side, and has about 5mm of play front to back, which is just the amount of space needed to open the tablet while in the case (the tablet gets deeper dimensionally when opened at the hinge).
Granted it adds a bit of bulk, but when i compare this set up to what i used to carry day to day, a 15" Asus N50 laptop with charger in a notebook bag or back pack the difference is night and day.
I have attached three pics.
This is pretty sweet! Great find!:good:
So, my girlfriend sat on my tablet by accident and well I decided to fix it myself. I found in one forum that they used 3M double sided tape but the kind I got was the foam kind and made it too thick.
Furthermore I ended up cracking the new glass when I was installing it. I was wondering what glue or tape is used on this tablet or which 3rd party glue or tape can I use on the screen to get it sealed flush with the bezel.
digitizer tape
When I fixed one of my tf300t I went on amazon and searched for digitizer tape and got lots of options I went for a 50 yard roll of 2mm double sided tape that was listed for touch screen/ digitizers it worked perfect that would be my choice if I need to order more ever lol I stilln have a few yards
I just used electrical tape to seal the gap for the light bleed. Pressure alone hold fine the parts
Well I really liked this case, I've had it for about 2 months. Yesterday one of the two magnet strips in embedded in the plastic that hold the cover close came out of the plastic and stayed on the lid's metal clip. I figured, well I'll just super glue it in and it'll be fine. But this morning I took a really good look at the case and found two hairline cracks in the plastic, one around each of the magnet pockets. I pulled on the pocket without the magnet in it with my fingernail and it broke the plastic. Very brittle! So I'm still going to try and glue it back together but does anyone else see these hairline cracks in their case? I've never dropped my note with/without the case. The only thing I can think that could even contribute to it would be having it in my truck in the center console in the summer. Never exposed to long direct sunlight, certainly nothing that would cause the case to become brittle.
I have had that case since May. It is my favorite case.
I have had no problems with it, and none of the "magnet problems" that some speak of. That may be because the magnets are strong enough for the job but quite weak in some ways.
When using the case as a stand I find the magnet to case actually weak.
I thought the case was great, until I saw the effect it had on the digitizer. With Artflow, whenever I drew near the left edge, the SPen produced severe scribbles. I was not able to draw a single straight line. I'm worried if it would permanently damage my digitizer, as that is the most important part of this tablet. I'm now looking for a stand-case without a magnet.
I'm planning to sell this case for $10 including shipping. If anybody's interested please contact me.
mankand007 said:
I thought the case was great, until I saw the effect it had on the digitizer. With Artflow, whenever I drew near the left edge, the SPen produced severe scribbles. I was not able to draw a single straight line. I'm worried if it would permanently damage my digitizer, as that is the most important part of this tablet. I'm now looking for a stand-case without a magnet.
I'm planning to sell this case for $10 including shipping. If anybody's interested please contact me.
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One of THESE slim folio cases. I removed the magnet easily, and as it's hidden under the hand strap, you can't even tell.
kmeleon77 said:
Well I really liked this case, I've had it for about 2 months. Yesterday one of the two magnet strips in embedded in the plastic that hold the cover close came out of the plastic and stayed on the lid's metal clip. I figured, well I'll just super glue it in and it'll be fine. But this morning I took a really good look at the case and found two hairline cracks in the plastic, one around each of the magnet pockets. I pulled on the pocket without the magnet in it with my fingernail and it broke the plastic. Very brittle! So I'm still going to try and glue it back together but does anyone else see these hairline cracks in their case? I've never dropped my note with/without the case. The only thing I can think that could even contribute to it would be having it in my truck in the center console in the summer. Never exposed to long direct sunlight, certainly nothing that would cause the case to become brittle.
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My magnets came out too, both of them. I glued them back in, although I figured out that you need to let them sit up a bit so the cover stays closed I see the start of cracks where the magnets are, but no real cracks.
My magnets are fine, no screen issues to note.
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My magnets came out too, both of them. I glued them back in, although I figured out that you need to let them sit up a bit so the cover stays closed I see the start of cracks where the magnets are, but no real cracks.
My magnets are fine, no screen issues to note.
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:crying: That is really suck. I will stay away from this case.
Bandage said:
One of THESE slim folio cases. I removed the magnet easily, and as it's hidden under the hand strap, you can't even tell.
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Are the magnets really doing damage??? They have been using magnets in case for years...
I think that the magnet damage is a myth.
kendive said:
Are the magnets really doing damage??? They have been using magnets in case for years...
I think that the magnet damage is a myth.
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Yeah, I've used them for years without issue as well...the magnets do interfere with s-pen usage, not sure of long term effects to the screen (ie dead spots)tho.
Hello there,
do you guys know if the type cover scratches the surface display? I do know that mine is just a few weeks old and I was good to it, meaning it didn*t fall down or anything like that. Still, I got some scratches in it. I now think that this could be because of the type cover. Do you guys have any experience with that. And: Are there better covers out there, maybe even thinner? I don't need the keys all the time anyway.
The type cover,you mean the keyboard thingy?it never did scratch my surface
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2 covers available at the moment. The type cover and the touch cover. They are being replaced with the type 2 and touch 2 which are slightly slimmer, backlit and in the case of the touch 2 have more sensors so should be more accurate plus support multitouch gestures on the trackpad. There is also the power cover which seems to be a thicker type cover with a battery in it for charging a surface pro, surface pro 2 or surface 2 but *not* the surface RT (where it would just serve as a thicker type cover).
None of those cases should scratch the display. They are plastic, the screen is gorilla glass. Gorilla glass can only really be damaged by very sharp edges, sand/other grit and a few minerals. In your case most likely grit damaged it. Plastic could not scratch it.
It's a hard surface that can grind dust into screen when it's closed up. That goes for anything really, the risk is there. I have a few tiny dot marks on screen after using type cover for a few months and keeping everything clean and in a sleeve when not used. No big damage that I can even notice with screen on, though.
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It's a hard surface that can grind dust into screen when it's closed up. That goes for anything really, the risk is there. I have a few tiny dot marks on screen after using type cover for a few months and keeping everything clean and in a sleeve when not used. No big damage that I can even notice with screen on, though.
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Mine is pretty noticable. I got a new surface RT without scratches and I'm kinda afraid now to use the type cover again...
Sephi said:
Mine is pretty noticable. I got a new surface RT without scratches and I'm kinda afraid now to use the type cover again...
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Is it in an environment with alot of dirt and grit? It wouldnt just have to be the cover, it lying face down, going into a padded sleeve or the touch cover could also rub dirt over the front of your tablet.
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Is it in an environment with alot of dirt and grit? It wouldnt just have to be the cover, it lying face down, going into a padded sleeve or the touch cover could also rub dirt over the front of your tablet.
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No, it's really not. For example, my Galaxy Note, and I really really wasn't good to it and it fell down quite a few times or were together with my keys in my pocket - does not have any noticable scratches. The Surface however has quite some big, deep ones which are clearly noticable even when the screen is on. And I don't know there they are supposed to come from other than the type cover.
OK, the type cover is DEFINITLY scratching the display. I got a few more scratches today after I took it with me in my bag and used the type cover as protection. The scratches all look kinda similiar and they are all in the upper region, I guess there is more contraction there. Horrible, I would NOT use the type cover as an actual display protection.
The strange thing is the scratches are all in the area without keys, the area where the touchpad is but to the sides, so it's no rough surface (no pun intended). I don't know where the scratches are coming from en masse but they are there, it's horrible. I know ordered this bag here: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00D1HQPQC/ref=pe_386171_38075861_TE_item
Any thoughts?
Thats an absolute physical impossibility.
All materials have a hardness (or several hardnesses dependant on the method of measurement but the general principle applies the same).
In order for material A to scratch material B, material A must be harder than material B.
Plastic is not as hard as gorilla glass, nor is it rough edged (a very sharp point of a softer material if forced hard enough will scratch another harder material). Expecting a flat piece of plastic to scratch the glass on the surface is like throwing a ball in the air and expecting it to fall, doesn't happen.
If there is something in between then it can happen. Sand for example, it is harder than gorilla glass, its also a small particle that tends to stick to your screen so when you shut the cover on it the cover will be forcing the sand into the screen, due to the nature of the hinge on the surface the cover can wobble forwards and back a few mm rubbing the sand grain over a small area. Other bits of dirt can do it again, small bits of mud or whatever.
Plastic at most could only transfer the coating of the plastic to the glass which would wipe off, and that I highly doubt would happen.
As for more contraction, that would entirely be down to how you store the device. The touch cover only attaches with a simple flap, its free to drop open or closed at any time, if its stored with slightly more force in one corner then its not going to apply the force terribly equally across the device.
But where is it coming from? Scratches are everywhere and by no chance I got sand in my bag or anywhere else. It's been months since the last time I saw some sand. Living in the middle of germany.
It doesnt necessarily have to be beach sand. Concrete dust, mud, construction sand. All could do it (mud less so). Sand has a tendancy to hide in small spots in bags if there is any (or transfer from other items). Anything could be the cause, i find it highly unlikely to be the cover itself.
One thing you could try, can you find a sheet of soft fabric or foam or something that you could cut to size and wedge between the cover and screen. Might reduce the impact of whatever is going on. Can keep the sheet loose in your bag, stick it in when closing the cover. Or simply fold the keyboard over the back of the unit and put it in a netbook sleeve but that would be leaving the glass exposed to knocks etc
Well, I really looked into my bag but I can't find any sand or anything like that. Dust, obviously, is everywhere all the time. Like I stated before, y my GNOte is basically scratch free after 1,5 years of abusive use. I don't get it.
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Well, I really looked into my bag but I can't find any sand or anything like that. Dust, obviously, is everywhere all the time. Like I stated before, y my GNOte is basically scratch free after 1,5 years of abusive use. I don't get it.
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YES, the type cover WILL scratch the display. I have heard it from other people and I have it myself.
NO, it is not the material, it is any grit that gets trapped in between them. Get a tiny grain of sand in there, you are in trouble.
YES, I use a screen protector now and it is getting trashed.
NOW I carry a large micro fiber cloth in my carrying case. Before putting the Surface away, I wipe off the display and keyboard. That has reduce the amount of damage. I'll still need to replace the screen protector often, but I'm OK with that compared to more glass damage.
I hate screen protectors with a passion. I will just stop using type cover then...
after reading this thread it is very bad news, this is a poor design by microsoft if they did not consider this. no laptop i have ever had scratches the display but many cheaper laptops ive had leave dust imprint around the keys and sometimes the keys even pressed the screen. now that the screens are so hard like glass obviously if little particles get trapped and rub it will scratch it. too bad as this was going to be my first gorilla glass product. i hate scratches so will ignore the type cover. even the touch cover will have the same issue if it is completely flush and pressed against the display.
what a damn shame
Indeed it does. I bought mine on Sunday night. Monday afternoon I noticed a scratch/pit on my screen when I was cleaning it off. I looked at the type cover, and there was a piece of grit/sand stuck in the soft, flat part where my right palm is not supposed to rest.
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willusdun said:
after reading this thread it is very bad news, this is a poor design by microsoft if they did not consider this. no laptop i have ever had scratches the display but many cheaper laptops ive had leave dust imprint around the keys and sometimes the keys even pressed the screen. now that the screens are so hard like glass obviously if little particles get trapped and rub it will scratch it. too bad as this was going to be my first gorilla glass product. i hate scratches so will ignore the type cover. even the touch cover will have the same issue if it is completely flush and pressed against the display.
what a damn shame
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Microsoft likely did consider it, and decided that having a slimmer overall product would generate more revenue.
Some laptops dont have this issue because they have "spacers" around the screen that maintain a small gap between the keys and the screen when closed.
My Thinkpad has markings on its screen from its own keyboard, even though theres a massive 2-3mm gap between the keys and screen when closed. This is because the screen can flex a bit and likely got smushed into my keys (I'm pretty rough with my Thinkpad).
There isnt much you can do about it, almost every product has this issue.
My HTC One sits in my pocket with nothing else in it, and it has markings on it. I haven't been anywhere near a beach since I got the phone.
So like someone else said, all sorts of particles can scratch your screen.
Even Macbooks have this issue, its the reason why people sell specially cut microfiber cloths that are meant to be placed between screen and keyboard when Macbook is closed.
Either get a screen protector, deal with it, or wait a few decades until they make glass strong enough to resist everything.
My HP sleekbook has an imprint from the keys on the screen. I had my laptop bag on the passenger seat of my car, was cut up really badly by someone at 50mph, immediately wished that my car had decent ABS which it doesnt as it made a nice tyre squeal. Laptop bag slammed to floor, opened it up, laptop 100% intact, just has key imprints on the screen which are actually rubbing off (does literally seem to be dirt rather than physical damage).
I have my Surface RT with touch cover. I have been using it for a year. I never put any screen protector and I have scratches on screen. I carry my surface in my bag pretty much every week day. I don't find the scratches affecting any usability or affecting the quality of display. When the screen lights up while using, you are not going to see those scratches that easy. Only when screen off and at certain angle you will be able to see some. It's just a device for use for couple years, relax and enjoy it. Putting screen protector will protect the screen from scratches, but degrade your display color, viewing angle, reflection, brigtness, touch feel, etc.
I got one, the MobilePioneer with beveled edges. My main concern was how to fight the dust getting between the protector glass and the screen. I tried my best to clean the tablet's surface, as instructed. Nevertheless, when I put the protector screen down at some places i saw dust. It's presence results in a small circle where the glass is not attached to the surface and you can't get rid of it by rubbing the area. So I carefully removed the protector and cleaned the tablets surface again. But it did not help. Actually with each reinstall attempt the problem got worse. Then I realized that the dust particles are not on the tablets surface but they got sick to the sticky stuff on the glass. To make things worse i attempted to remove the dust particles from the sticky glue.
The solution came in the form of a four inch wide scotch tape. I turned the glass sticky side up and applied the scotch tape to the areas where I saw dust. After I peeled the tape off I quickly reinstalled the glass. It worked. The new surface feels awesome, smooth, no fingerprints.
I'm ordering one today, and thought this review on amazon was pretty helpful. I've tried the plastic protectors and have the same problem of dust adhering to the protector as soon as I peel of the plastic layer. I will have to try this method.
To help others out, with getting the results that I did, I will share how I put this on. (1st) Go to your bathroom and wipe down an area to use for the installation. (I cleaned around my sink, and placed a laptop, lap pad across the sink to create a table to work on. If you have a table to work on in your bathroom all the better. (2nd) Close the door to your bathroom, and run the shower on hot water for 10-15 minutes. The steam will adhere to all of the dust floating around in the room and zero out the static electricity of that room, essentially making a clean room for you. (3rd) With the door shut allow the steam to settle in your bathroom for 10 minutes or so.(longer does not hurt, **You want to make sure enough steam has cleared and it has cooled down enough, so as it does not make condensation form on your screen**) Do-not run the bathroom vent fan, they almost always place dust in the air. (4th) Place your tablet on your work area, and wipe down the tablet, with the included alcohol wipe. Wiping with the alcohol wipe first, and then drying with the included microfiber cloth. I did this several times across the tablet. (5th) Now that your tablet is completely clean and free from any smudges and such, use the included sticker that comes with the kit(small white rectangular sticker that says: "Cleaning Paste" on it . And go across the entire tablet several times. This will pick up any lint or dust from the microfiber. I held one end of the sticker in each hand, and pushed the middle of the sticker onto the screen, and then pulled it off the screen, repeating until there was no dust or lint on the screen. (6th) Look at your tablet from different angles, and make sure there is ZERO dust or lint on it. If there is any, use the sticker to remove it. (7th) Now that your tab is perfectly clean(No smudges, ZERO LINT). Peel the protective layer off of the tempered glass. Do this away from the tablet, so no dust or lent, falls onto the tablet screen. Be very very careful, not to touch the sticky side with your fingers. ***Some people stick a couple pieces of tape on the non sticky glass side, allowing the tape to hang over the edge of the glass. This will essentially give you some tabs to hold onto, when trying to lower the glass down in place.*** I did not do this(I've put on many protectors in my day), I just held the glass by the sides, between both hands, without touching the sticky side. But the tape tabs may be helpful to some(look it up online), its all up to you. (8th) Now the hard part, carefully align the glass with the home button, or the camera lens. When you are confident that you have a good alignment, let go of the glass. Simply push once on the center of the glass, and it will adhere across the entire tablet. If there are any bubbles, you can push them towards the outside of the protector. Do not worry about small bubbles, they will go away on there own, in a couple of hours to a day. My bubbles were gone in 4 hours or less
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i always wearing something on my head... like a cap or something... dandruff sometimes hindering with the perfect installation... =_=
Peter234 said:
I got one, the MobilePioneer with beveled edges. My main concern was how to fight the dust getting between the protector glass and the screen. I tried my best to clean the tablet's surface, as instructed. Nevertheless, when I put the protector screen down at some places i saw dust. It's presence results in a small circle where the glass is not attached to the surface and you can't get rid of it by rubbing the area. So I carefully removed the protector and cleaned the tablets surface again. But it did not help. Actually with each reinstall attempt the problem got worse. Then I realized that the dust particles are not on the tablets surface but they got sick to the sticky stuff on the glass. To make things worse i attempted to remove the dust particles from the sticky glue.
The solution came in the form of a four inch wide scotch tape. I turned the glass sticky side up and applied the scotch tape to the areas where I saw dust. After I peeled the tape off I quickly reinstalled the glass. It worked. The new surface feels awesome, smooth, no fingerprints.
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You could also use the tape to secure the edge of the protector, making it like a hinge so it would be easier to install once everything is lined up. Regarding the dust issue. What I do for several years now. I install them inside the washroom. I opened the hot shower until the room is steamy. This way. Any floating dust particles will get caught in the steam.
Or. If you're in a sealed. Airconditioned office with a humidifier. It works the same. I installed my tempered glass in the office. No dust at all
Will give it a try
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You could also use the tape to secure the edge of the protector, making it like a hinge so it would be easier to install once everything is lined up. Regarding the dust issue. What I do for several years now. I install them inside the washroom. I opened the hot shower until the room is steamy. This way. Any floating dust particles will get caught in the steam.
Or. If you're in a sealed. Airconditioned office with a humidifier. It works the same. I installed my tempered glass in the office. No dust at all
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I agree with you but only add two comments. For the dust particles that still appear have several strips of scotch tape ready. Slide the tape sticky side up under the screen protector and the let the dust adhere to the tape then pull the tape out. The other comment is to search on Youtube for a video of a guy using this method (tape on edges) applying a protector to an iPad. The video helped me get it right especially when I also included several strips of tape ready to remove those stubborn lint/dust particles.
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Peter234 said:
I got one, the MobilePioneer with beveled edges. My main concern was how to fight the dust getting between the protector glass and the screen. I tried my best to clean the tablet's surface, as instructed. Nevertheless, when I put the protector screen down at some places i saw dust. It's presence results in a small circle where the glass is not attached to the surface and you can't get rid of it by rubbing the area. So I carefully removed the protector and cleaned the tablets surface again. But it did not help. Actually with each reinstall attempt the problem got worse. Then I realized that the dust particles are not on the tablets surface but they got sick to the sticky stuff on the glass. To make things worse i attempted to remove the dust particles from the sticky glue.
The solution came in the form of a four inch wide scotch tape. I turned the glass sticky side up and applied the scotch tape to the areas where I saw dust. After I peeled the tape off I quickly reinstalled the glass. It worked. The new surface feels awesome, smooth, no fingerprints.
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Once you install it, let us know how I turned out. I want to buy one for me as well, just don't know which one is the best.
For installation, what I did when installing in other tablets was, turn the hot water on in your bathroom, close the door and let it get humid. Clean screen well and apply screen protector. The humidity in the air won't allow dust to get set on the screen. Works every time for me.
With many practices you will get better at it, with a tab it's much harder than a phone due to the size of the display, sometimes it only takes me one try and I get a perfect dust free fit, and sometimes it takes me like over 20 times to get it done.