I just bought the G Tablet from Sears at lunch. Came home, opened the box and noticed bubbles underneath the screen protector. No biggie I thought since it's only to protect the screen during shipping/packaging. After 4 hours waiting for it to charge, I play with it. Take off the packaging screen protector.
There are bubbles underneath the main screen protector. Found some comments on the interwebs. Peeled off that protector and got out most of the bubbles but some small bubbles remain. Also there are rings of the outlines of where the initial bubbles were. Called him desk. I told them that i re-applied the screen protector and there are rings, etc. Asked if I could just remove the screen protector.
They said no because the glass will easily scratch. Guess it's not made of gorilla glass. Oh well, looks like I'm taking it back. Can't decide if I'm going to exchange for another one or just wait till the other more polished Tegra 2 android tablets are released.
Thoughts?
LOL, just take the screen protector off man. I had bubbles under my too, I took it off when I first got the G Tab.
The screens get greasy easily, but they don't scratch easily. You don't put it in your pocket like a cell phone so no keys, no change, etc. Just remove it and don't worry. That's no reason to return a tablet.
I experienced the same thing, and it is very frustrating. However, I'm not sold on returning it yet. The protector itself is easy to remove and reapply; it uses static to hold on so there isn't any adhesive and you can remove/reattach as many times as necessary. The only problem (and my current problem) is dirt on the screen protector. I took it off to reapply, but then got some dust in the few moments it took me to reapply it. So I removed it, washed it in warm soapy water till it was all shiny and new, but then hit the hard part of how am I supposed to dry this thing? I tried a towel, left lint. Tried a blowdryer, left little dried bubbles. So now I guess I'll try air drying it.
But I wouldn't return it just yet, but that's just me.
There might be dirt under the sticky side of the protector, I've used tape to clean out dust particles or lint that's stuck under the screen protector.
when you guys took off the initial screen plastic was there a bit less glare?
Yesterday i bought the Spigen glass.tr screen protector
it's a dry protector and no wet solution needed
the biggest problem any one can had is the dust under the screen protector
anyway
i installed the protector after cleaning my phone screen very carefully and i was sure that there was no dust there
and of course after the installation there was some dust between the protector and the screen
i was very mad . it's a 30$ protector
i removed the protector and using some alcohol (the white one that u can find in any drug store )
i cleaned the protector
then i made sure that the protector stays wet with the alcohol and i applied it then used the squeegee to remove any small drops of alcohol between the screen and the protector
and now its perfect no dust and no bubbles at all
i wanted to share this with everyone having trouble applying his glass screen protector
thank you! mine is arriving next week I think. BTW, I think the post should go in the Q&A so more people can see the tip Thanks again!
asolram said:
thank you! mine is arriving next week I think. BTW, I think the post should go in the Q&A so more people can see the tip Thanks again!
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i thought i posted it at Q&A
it's a mistake sorry
i hope one of the moderators can move it to Q&A
The spigen glass series comes with an alcoholic cleaner. At least mine did.
Another tip would be that immediately after screen protector is placed, you can still adjust it by firmly nudging it in whatever direction you desire.
Likewise mine was perfect. Am really loving the glass feeling.
Other tips for installing glass screen protection:
1. Turn on your shower with the highest water temperature possible, and let it run for about 3~5 minutes. Then, do the procedure in the bathroom. I find that this helps get rid of dust in the air.
2. First, go to a completely white screen, and remove all the dust you can see. This will get rid of dark colored dust particles.
3. Turn off the phone and remove remaining dust. Since the screen is black when it is off, this will get rid of lighter colored dust.
Glass screen protectors feel amazing. It's difficult to get rid of all the dust, but it's definitely worth it.
totally messed mine up.
On the first go, got a bit of dust under it - it was really noticeable - so decided to remove it and give it another wipe with the alcohol wipe. Didn't work so redid it several times.
Was about to throw the thing away when I read about someone using a lint roller. Used it on the underside of the protector and screen and not only did it remove the dust it "revived" the tackiness of the protector.
It is now (almost) perfect on my phone
saltmine said:
Other tips for installing glass screen protection:
1. Turn on your shower with the highest water temperature possible, and let it run for about 3~5 minutes. Then, do the procedure in the bathroom. I find that this helps get rid of dust in the air.
2. First, go to a completely white screen, and remove all the dust you can see. This will get rid of dark colored dust particles.
3. Turn off the phone and remove remaining dust. Since the screen is black when it is off, this will get rid of lighter colored dust.
Glass screen protectors feel amazing. It's difficult to get rid of all the dust, but it's definitely worth it.
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This. I did this when I got my Glas.TR for my iPhone, by far the easiest and best way I've found to install a screen protector.
Just installed mine and there's a tiny white lint stuck underneath
I wouldn't mind it but it's created a little bubble, hope it goes away or I'll just have to live with it!
Update: took it off and sprayed some soap and water solution to clean it. Reapplied and squeezed out the water and haze, now its almost perfect
thank you! helped me so much!
Like mentioned before:
1. Do it after taking a shower (this is make sure your hands are clean)
2. You can use sellotape (sticky tape) to make sure all dust is gone
3. Make sure you wipe it down with a microcloth (can be wet with water/alcohol) However some alcohol wipes will remove the oleophobic coating and cause smudging!)
Best way to clean screens is wet cloth and dry cloth
I've got bubbles at the edge for weeks. I wonder if I can lift the glass a lil bit to wipe the screen and re-attach it perfectly. If yes, what should I use to lift it? I know my fingernail can do...but I guess I can chip the edge by doing so
Yeah shower trick works. Usually have a perfect glass protector with not even one lint under it.
you guys are all so funny. The best way is to use scotch tape to remove any particles under the protector both on it and on the phone.
1. clean the phone with alcohol swap
2. wipe with non lint cloth (most likely provided with protector)
3. start by separating the protector from backing slightly not removing it fully to avoid any debris and place top half on phone lining up properly.
4. work from top to bottom slowly with credit card or supplied squeegee working bubbles out.
5. if debris are noticed under protector do not try to lift with finger nail use scotch tape to lift the protector and slide another piece under the protector area to catch the debris.
Omg I did the shower thing and I wet my phone completely..slipped into the bath. How I am suppose to put the screen while taking a shower...Omg..just joking..
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you guys are all so funny. The best way is to use scotch tape to remove any particles under the protector both on it and on the phone.
1. clean the phone with alcohol swap
2. wipe with non lint cloth (most likely provided with protector)
3. start by separating the protector from backing slightly not removing it fully to avoid any debris and place top half on phone lining up properly.
4. work from top to bottom slowly with credit card or supplied squeegee working bubbles out.
5. if debris are noticed under protector do not try to lift with finger nail use scotch tape to lift the protector and slide another piece under the protector area to catch the debris.
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Thanks for your advice. I applied the glass protector 2 weeks ago. I tried scotch tape for carton box but the tape wasn't that sticky to lift the protector. Have you got any further advice? Thanks
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Thanks for your advice. I applied the glass protector 2 weeks ago. I tried scotch tape for carton box but the tape wasn't that sticky to lift the protector. Have you got any further advice? Thanks
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I have always been able to lift with Scotch tape. Place the tape on a corner posing it firmly down on the protector leaving the tape extend as a tab. Lift slow just enough to seperate the two (screen protector from screen)
I use the hinge method. You can go on YouTube and find videos. It really helps to get it on straight and helps eliminate bubbles.
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I use the hinge method. You can go on YouTube and find videos. It really helps to get it on straight and helps eliminate bubbles.
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I just looked up a video, and that is definitely sort of brilliant.
I too used the shower trick, and for the most part, worked great. I needed a couple of attempts to line it up just perfectly however. Once I finally got it down, it looked fine. Next day I noticed a small speck of dust in the upper right corner. Just far enough away from the edges that would make lifiting it and using tape a little risky. We will see if my OCD can subside and Ill get used to it in a few days.
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I have always been able to lift with Scotch tape. Place the tape on a corner posing it firmly down on the protector leaving the tape extend as a tab. Lift slow just enough to seperate the two (screen protector from screen)
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Thank you Mapobean. I tried it; however it only works on normal screen protector (the film one). I tried that from my friend's phone. Mine is glass screen protector and no way I can apply you useful tip. :crying:
So I'm on my third screen protector. I bought a cheap $5 3 pack off Amazon and I wasted the first two, to many bubbles and couldn't get them allighned perfectly. Got it okay on third try but they were junk screen protectors.
I bought a Spigen GLAS.tR the other day. Attempted to apply it. I followed the instructions but would misalign the protector and finally by the time I got it right there ended up being a few dust specs under it. Attempted to peel it up and fix it but just made it worse and had to toss the expensive protector...
Tried a third cheap one that came with my battery kit. Got it on aligned but I have tons of bubbles on it.
I've read the instructions a billion times over and followed them as best I could, watching countless youtube videos on how to apply them but I still fail. Any tips on applying the protectors?? Im ordering another Spigen and giving it another go since it seems to be the #1 for glass covers for our phone.
You can wash the glass screen protector. Ive had mine washed twice and everything is fine
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Do the whole process under very good lighting. I take a microfiber cloth and wipe the screen very gently. Sometimes dust or other particles will remain on the screen, so I have a can of compressed air handy to blow away any remaining dust. Then I wash my hands thoroughly and just shake them til they're dry. I peel off the backing, not all the way, but only enough for the screen protector to catch onto the bottom. Once it looks aligned properly, I apply it slowly, smoothing away any air bubbles while I apply the screen protector and peel the backing at the same time. All in all, the key is patience. Hope this helps.
The best application advice I have gotten is to first line up the protector and once it's aligned apply 3 strips of Scotch tape to one long edge of the phone. Think of it as a hinge. Now wipe off all the dust on your screen, peel off the backing on the protector and lay onto screen. Since it's already taped down, it will be perfectly aligned. I've applied 3 ultra crystals this way and all 3 are perfectly aligned, which would have been very difficult because the cutouts don't leave much room for error.
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Wash hands with dishsoap, wear dust-free clothing
I've applied screen protectors to many phones in the past and I've learned a lot about the process. My current S4 has a screen protector on it which has been applied *flawlessly*. Not a single bubble or imperfection in alignment. Here's some tips:
Wash your hands with dish soap: Regular hand/body soaps have oils/lotion that will have you leaving fingerprints on everything. Dish soap, on the other hand is made to wash away such things. Try this as a test: Clean your screen real good, wash with dish soap, and then see if your fingers leave fingerprints when touching the screen--they won't! This won't last long though--your fingers will re-oil themselves within a few minutes.
Turn off any nearby fans: Fans recirculate the dust that naturally exists in the air all around us--especially *your* dusty house (you slob!). Turn them off and wait at least 10 minutes before attempting to apply your screen protector.
You need GOOD lighting: Seriously... You're not going to notice tiny dust particles threatening your perfect application if you can't see them.
Wash your face. Wash it good! Everyone's face/arms are constantly emitting little particles of dust. Something like 97% of household dust is human skin! When you're applying a screen protector it is very likely that your face will shed a bit right down into your application zone. Another benefit of having a slightly-moistened (and cool) face is that it will keep you alert and prevent static electricity buildup (which will transfer right through your fingers into your screen protector while you're applying it--unless it's the wet application kind). Static == dust magnet!
Wear a clean plastic smock: You'll look RIDICULOUS but a trash bag over your arms/chest will prevent a lot of fibers from making their way out of your clothes and under your screen protector. Ever see something like a tiny (usually blue) S-shaped "hair" under a screen protector? It's not a hair; it's a fiber from someone's clothes!
Lay off the caffeine for a while: You don't want to be all jittery while applying the protector. Simple as that!
Alignment is never easy but if you do things right you can always pull it up and try again in mid-application. NEVER press down on that protector to "seal the deal" until you're absolutely 100% certain you're happy with the alignment and that there are no dust particles (which are what create those bubbles we all hate so much).
I love my V30, but I've been agonizing over the best way to protect the screen. Flat glass protectors leave the edges exposed and tend to separate from the corners, while all the curved ones only had adhesive around the edges, so adhesion was weak while touch sensitivity suffered. I'd seen the Whitestone Dome glass, but it wasn't full-coverage. I ended up ordering the InvisShield True fit kit from SGFreshIdea for quite a bit more than the advertised price of $23.37. The cost of the UV light and shipping brought the total $44.09, which was a bit steep and the shipping took almost two weeks. It ended up being a decent kit, but there were a couple things I didn't like. First, the LOCA (Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) came in two clear vials. Considering the fact that this stuff sets when exposed to UV light (such as daylight), this seemed like a really bad idea. Second, the glass had a large cut-out at the top for the earpiece and front camera. I preferred something with more coverage. Long story short, I realized that this was something I could do using cheaper and, in some cases, better components.
First, I ordered a full-coverage glass from a company called dooqi (seriously) off Ebay. It was $8.79 with free shipping and arrived in less than a week. Be sure to order the clear glass, since the black edged one won't allow the LOCA glue to cure. Then I ordered the XFactor Sticky-Icky1000 LOCA glue for $11.99 with free shipping and arrived in two days (gotta love Amazon Prime). There's a LOT of LOCA glue on Amazon, but you need to order the lowest viscosity possible, since the "normal" glue is too thick to work with easily. The InvisShield glue was VERY thin, almost like water, while the XFactor is more like vegetable oil. The thinner glue spread more easily, but I actually preferred the XFactor since small bubbles seemed to push out with less effort. The main difference is that the InvisShield glue requires no pressure during installation (they tell you NOT to press on the glass), while the XFactor has to be pushed to the edges and corners with a squeegee.
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For the UV lamp, I ended up using the one that I purchased with the InvisShield kit. I also tested a UV flashlight I had in the garage for detecting coolant leaks, and it worked great. You can order small UV flashlights on Ebay for around $5 (free shipping) that should work well too, or you can simply let the glue cure by setting it in sunlight. The thing you need to keep in mind is that when the glue sets, it's still sticky. It isn't like epoxy. It cures to a clear, sticky adhesive that's perfect for phone screens. In fact, the LOCA glue is supposed to help fill in and hide cracks in the screen too when sandwiched between the phone and a glass screen protector. I haven't tested it, but it's something to consider if you have a cracked screen.
I strongly recommend watching the InvisShield installation video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCaOeqCH-2o ). It covers the basics well, but there's one thing that they don't mention that is critical. TAPE OVER ALL OF THE OPENINGS ON THE PHONE! When I first installed the InvisShield, a small amount of the glue ran into the hole for the earpiece. I cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol, and thought everything was fine. After the installation, I powered up the phone and discovered that I could barely hear anything, even at the max volume. I just about puked. After a LOT of stress, I managed to clear the excess glue out of the speaker screen with rubbing alcohol, a tiny brush for cleaning electric razors and some compressed air. I can't emphasize this enough... you NEED to be VERY careful about preventing the glue from getting into any of the openings on the phone. If you screw up your device, PLEASE don't complain to me since I feel I've made it abundantly clear that you need to be careful with this stuff. It runs everywhere, and can make a mess even with proper precautions. I used the glass protector as a template to cut a piece of clear packing tape, so I could be sure that the hole was covered without extending under the close-fitting glass.
The dooqi glass has a thin adhesive strip around the outer edge that can be easily pulled off. Just be sure to remove any adhesive residue with something like Goof-Off Professional-Grade. By the way, this stuff also works great for cleaning up cured LOCA. Next, clean the screen and glass with the alcohol wipes included with the dooqi glass. Unlike the InvisShield method of putting a large pool of glue on the bottom and using gravity and capillary action to spread the glue, I applied a heavy strip of glue down the center of the phone. It's better to use more glue than not enough, since removing the glass to add more glue isn't an option.
When doing so, look VERY carefully for even tiny bubbles. If you see one, use something clean (like the corner of the small plastic card in the dooqi kit) to dab out the bubble. Then just line up the glass and lower it gently onto the phone. Don't worry if it's crooked... you'll have plenty of time to straighten it. Let it sit for a couple minutes while the glue spreads. Then take a squeegee ( I used and old gift card) to push the glue to the edges and corners. Work slowly and carefully, wiping the excess glue away with an alcohol soaked cloth. I used to install vehicle wraps, so I learned a long time ago that rushing the job leads to disaster. If you notice air bubble sucking in at the corners, make sure that the glass is perfectly centered on the phone. I noticed that a few bubble kept sucking in from the top, right corner. So, I pushed them back out, and applied a dab of glue on the edge where the glass meets the phone. This way, glue was pulled into the tiny gap instead of air. Also, don't freak out if glue is running off the sides of your phone. Just make sure that you're working on a clean drop-cloth, and have plenty of alcohol soaked cloth wipes for cleaning the excess glue as you work.
Once it's evenly applied, carefully clean up any excess glue and wait a minute or two to be sure that no bubbles suck in from the edge. If glue is covering the front camera hole, don't worry. It will clean off easily once the glue is cured. Then use you lamp, flashlight or sunlight to cure the LOCA glue. I found that about 10 minutes of moving the UV flashlight back and forth around the screen seemed to be sufficient. The InvisShield video warns about over-curing, but I know that my phone will be used frequently in daylight I don't think this is an issue. In fact, I'd feel safer curing it more than not enough, since the last thing you want is for the glass to shift.
Finally, remove the tape and wipe the whole thing down with an isopropyl alcohol moistened cloth. You might have to scrub a bit to get some of the cured LOCA off the edges, but it should clean up pretty easily. And that's it! Mine ended up looking perfect. I'll probably clean around the edges in a couple day to remove any dirt that sticks to the excess glue. Also, check for any gaps that form near the corners. If they appear, use a small dab of glue to fill them and hit it with more UV light. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope that is helpful!
dooqi glass: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooqi-Full...var=541441961034&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
XFactor glue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GY4LL3G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UV flashlight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-LED-U...035402?hash=item5d7a6eb9ca:g:ZHoAAOSwKXdaconH
Thanks. Very nice write up. At 25.77 total, a much better option than the InvisShield True fit kit. I was going to try the Verizon screen protector, but it cost more than this and has terrible reviews. How long did the whole procedure take?
bilbo60 said:
Thanks. Very nice write up. At 25.77 total, a much better option than the InvisShield True fit kit. I was going to try the Verizon screen protector, but it cost more than this and has terrible reviews. How long did the whole procedure take?
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I was stopping to take pictures so that added to the time, but I'd estimate that it took me about 30 minutes from start to finish. I'm also really picky and used a magnifier to check for even the tiniest bubbles.
Whitestone Dome Glass has international patent for LOCA(Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) technology. Different from others, why bother with halo, rainbow and bubbles? Whitestone Dome Glass makes it different. Thanks to LOCA liquid adhesive method and curing process, adhesive is on all areas even on the edges of the screen. Hope you try our Dome Glass next time! For your reference please check to see images on our Twitter or Facebook of LG V30 Whitestone Dome Glass
When Whitestone comes out with glass that's actually curved (in spite of what your Amazon ad incorrectly claims), I'll consider it. Until then, I'll stick with the method I've posted here which costs half as much and exhibits none of the issues you mention. Thanks...
Btw - I did some research and found nothing to suggest that Whitestone has any patents on LOCA glue.
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When Whitestone comes out with glass that's actually curved (in spite of what your Amazon ad incorrectly claims), I'll consider it. Until then, I'll stick with the method I've posted here which costs half as much and exhibits none of the issues you mention. Thanks...
Btw - I did some research and found nothing to suggest that Whitestone has any patents on LOCA glue.
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Do you see any halo, rainbow and bubbles? I think Whitestone's LOCA patent claim is full of it. If so, there would not be InvisibleShield, which is similarly LOCA glued.
I was very careful to check for any bubbles, and I can assure you that there aren't any. As for the other stuff, I have no idea what Whitestone is talking about. It looks just like the unprotected screen, with absolutely no visual defects. It covers the sides of the screen to within 1/32", and is a little over 1/16" short of full coverage on the top and bottom. Also, touch sensitivity is unaffected.
The only thing that worries me - is what will happen when you try to remove it.
Dooqi doesn't ship to Canada... just like InvisShield.
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The only thing that worries me - is what will happen when you try to remove it.
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It removes cleanly. Just slide a thin piece of plastic (like a credit card) under the edge and pop it off. A little bit of alcohol under the edge loosens it nicely. I didn't have any residue, but isopropyl alcohol would remove any if you did. The LOCA glue doesn't harden when it cure. It becomes a tacky adhesive.
I did this. Thanks for the tutorial and links! The only difference is i used the liquid adhesive and UV light that came with my whitestone done glass kit. This is a much cheaper solution for me than buying a replacement glass screen protector.
Thanks again!
p.s. make sure you peel off and get all the adhesive off of the dooqi screen protector and get the air bubbles out or you'll get some air bubbles.
ED2O9, thanks for the write up. I'm now in the process of accumulating the materials to do the full adhesive glass protector.
Just a caveat for anyone doing this. I spent 2 hours going through all of the V30 TG screen protectors on Amazon. All of the clear TG screen protectors without the black borders sold on Amazon ARE NOT FULL COVERAGE protectors, but instead are cut narrower in order to avoid fitting issues over the V30's curved edges. Props to ED209 for doing his homework and pointing the way to the appropriate screen protector that works for the full adhesive application which is the Dooqi TG protector sold on eBay.
However, one caveat: Dooqi offers 2 types of TG screen protectors on eBay. Read the item descriptions before buying. Links are embedded.
1. Dooqi Full Coverage 3D Curved Tempered Glass Screen Protector Saver for LG V30 - This is the one to buy. As mentioned by ED209, the cost is $8.79 for one screen protector. This one has curved edges and provides bezel to bezel screen coverage.
2. 3X Dooqi Premium Ultra Clear Tempered Glass Screen Protector Saver for LG V30 - Avoid this one. This one is cut narrow and covers only the flat surface of the screen, leaving the the curved edges uncovered and exposed. For the cheap price of $7.79 for a 3 pack, it's very easy to be tempted into clicking the Buy It Now button. Don't do it.
Interesting! I just put a whitestone dome on my son's V30+ - quite successfully I might add. He's using a Tech21 Evo Check case, so I knew the whitestone was compatible (see YouTube install video by the "naked" guy). Plus I didn't want to wait 2 weeks for the HongKong based alternative to get here. My son carries his phone in his pocket, and the edge adhesive option wouldn't stay in place for him.
Anyways, I have the extra tube of adhesive from the whitestone, so I might order a piece of glass and try it on mine!
Hey, thanks for the guide.
One thing I also did to help with the process - I used a hair dryer after I put the screen protector on the phone (before the LOCA was fully spread out on the phone).
This helped lower the viscosity and make it easier for the LOCA to move around. I used the hair dryer directly above the middle of the phone. (With the phone off of course).
Edit: Also, you can use the screen protectors with the black borders. Acetone (nail polish remover) does a great job at removing it. The adhesive comes off in one piece just by picking it off with your nails. If there's any residue left, acetone will get that too.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075Y3BBJC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
This is the one with black borders that I used, and it worked great!
Excellent post, thought it would be boring duh ?like. NOT! Very informative. I saw on the page for Dooqi Glass a feature is Anti-UV protection!? I assume this adds more cure time..? I thought 10mins was excessive, but using w cheap light could explain.
I actually bought a kickass (seriously bright) LED uv/black light strip on Amazon for about 20$. Has a USB power source, decent length cable, LOW&HIGHT, and assume a extension port.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075K6NM8F?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
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Excellent post, thought it would be boring duh like. NOT! Very informative. I saw on the page for Dooqi Glass a feature is Anti-UV protection!? I assume this adds more cure time..? I thought 10mins was excessive, but using w cheap light could explain.
I actually bought a kickass (seriously bright) LED uv/black light strip on Amazon for about 20$. Has a USB power source, decent length cable, LOW&HIGHT, and assume a extension port.
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075K6NM8F?psc=1&ref=yo_pop_mb_yo_pop_mb_pd_t2
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I used this one and it cured in about a minute. Did it extra to make sure it would stay though https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MJI8OCW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is it possible to apply your solution to this TGSP
Hi,
Thank you for this detailed procedure.
I'have already ordered a TGSP that cover the maximum of the black front face of the phone since I dont care about case-friendly aspect. But because it have the black edges, do you have a solution to apply the LOCA with this one?
The issue with the edged one is it because the extra glue will not be able to flow outward? Or just because the UV will not work on the edges? If it's because of the UV, is the original glue on the edges PLUS the LOCA glue on the screen should not be an alternative?
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07B2NRTXH/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
ED2O9 said:
I love my V30, but I've been agonizing over the best way to protect the screen. Flat glass protectors leave the edges exposed and tend to separate from the corners, while all the curved ones only had adhesive around the edges, so adhesion was weak while touch sensitivity suffered. I'd seen the Whitestone Dome glass, but it wasn't full-coverage. I ended up ordering the InvisShield True fit kit from SGFreshIdea for quite a bit more than the advertised price of $23.37. The cost of the UV light and shipping brought the total $44.09, which was a bit steep and the shipping took almost two weeks. It ended up being a decent kit, but there were a couple things I didn't like. First, the LOCA (Liquid Optically Clear Adhesive) came in two clear vials. Considering the fact that this stuff sets when exposed to UV light (such as daylight), this seemed like a really bad idea. Second, the glass had a large cut-out at the top for the earpiece and front camera. I preferred something with more coverage. Long story short, I realized that this was something I could do using cheaper and, in some cases, better components.
First, I ordered a full-coverage glass from a company called dooqi (seriously) off Ebay. It was $8.79 with free shipping and arrived in less than a week. Be sure to order the clear glass, since the black edged one won't allow the LOCA glue to cure. Then I ordered the XFactor Sticky-Icky1000 LOCA glue for $11.99 with free shipping and arrived in two days (gotta love Amazon Prime). There's a LOT of LOCA glue on Amazon, but you need to order the lowest viscosity possible, since the "normal" glue is too thick to work with easily. The InvisShield glue was VERY thin, almost like water, while the XFactor is more like vegetable oil. The thinner glue spread more easily, but I actually preferred the XFactor since small bubbles seemed to push out with less effort. The main difference is that the InvisShield glue requires no pressure during installation (they tell you NOT to press on the glass), while the XFactor has to be pushed to the edges and corners with a squeegee.
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For the UV lamp, I ended up using the one that I purchased with the InvisShield kit. I also tested a UV flashlight I had in the garage for detecting coolant leaks, and it worked great. You can order small UV flashlights on Ebay for around $5 (free shipping) that should work well too, or you can simply let the glue cure by setting it in sunlight. The thing you need to keep in mind is that when the glue sets, it's still sticky. It isn't like epoxy. It cures to a clear, sticky adhesive that's perfect for phone screens. In fact, the LOCA glue is supposed to help fill in and hide cracks in the screen too when sandwiched between the phone and a glass screen protector. I haven't tested it, but it's something to consider if you have a cracked screen.
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I strongly recommend watching the InvisShield installation video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCaOeqCH-2o ). It covers the basics well, but there's one thing that they don't mention that is critical. TAPE OVER ALL OF THE OPENINGS ON THE PHONE! When I first installed the InvisShield, a small amount of the glue ran into the hole for the earpiece. I cleaned it with isopropyl alcohol, and thought everything was fine. After the installation, I powered up the phone and discovered that I could barely hear anything, even at the max volume. I just about puked. After a LOT of stress, I managed to clear the excess glue out of the speaker screen with rubbing alcohol, a tiny brush for cleaning electric razors and some compressed air. I can't emphasize this enough... you NEED to be VERY careful about preventing the glue from getting into any of the openings on the phone. If you screw up your device, PLEASE don't complain to me since I feel I've made it abundantly clear that you need to be careful with this stuff. It runs everywhere, and can make a mess even with proper precautions. I used the glass protector as a template to cut a piece of clear packing tape, so I could be sure that the hole was covered without extending under the close-fitting glass.
The dooqi glass has a thin adhesive strip around the outer edge that can be easily pulled off. Just be sure to remove any adhesive residue with something like Goof-Off Professional-Grade. By the way, this stuff also works great for cleaning up cured LOCA. Next, clean the screen and glass with the alcohol wipes included with the dooqi glass. Unlike the InvisShield method of putting a large pool of glue on the bottom and using gravity and capillary action to spread the glue, I applied a heavy strip of glue down the center of the phone. It's better to use more glue than not enough, since removing the glass to add more glue isn't an option.
When doing so, look VERY carefully for even tiny bubbles. If you see one, use something clean (like the corner of the small plastic card in the dooqi kit) to dab out the bubble. Then just line up the glass and lower it gently onto the phone. Don't worry if it's crooked... you'll have plenty of time to straighten it. Let it sit for a couple minutes while the glue spreads. Then take a squeegee ( I used and old gift card) to push the glue to the edges and corners. Work slowly and carefully, wiping the excess glue away with an alcohol soaked cloth. I used to install vehicle wraps, so I learned a long time ago that rushing the job leads to disaster. If you notice air bubble sucking in at the corners, make sure that the glass is perfectly centered on the phone. I noticed that a few bubble kept sucking in from the top, right corner. So, I pushed them back out, and applied a dab of glue on the edge where the glass meets the phone. This way, glue was pulled into the tiny gap instead of air. Also, don't freak out if glue is running off the sides of your phone. Just make sure that you're working on a clean drop-cloth, and have plenty of alcohol soaked cloth wipes for cleaning the excess glue as you work.
Once it's evenly applied, carefully clean up any excess glue and wait a minute or two to be sure that no bubbles suck in from the edge. If glue is covering the front camera hole, don't worry. It will clean off easily once the glue is cured. Then use you lamp, flashlight or sunlight to cure the LOCA glue. I found that about 10 minutes of moving the UV flashlight back and forth around the screen seemed to be sufficient. The InvisShield video warns about over-curing, but I know that my phone will be used frequently in daylight I don't think this is an issue. In fact, I'd feel safer curing it more than not enough, since the last thing you want is for the glass to shift.
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Finally, remove the tape and wipe the whole thing down with an isopropyl alcohol moistened cloth. You might have to scrub a bit to get some of the cured LOCA off the edges, but it should clean up pretty easily. And that's it! Mine ended up looking perfect. I'll probably clean around the edges in a couple day to remove any dirt that sticks to the excess glue. Also, check for any gaps that form near the corners. If they appear, use a small dab of glue to fill them and hit it with more UV light. Let me know if you have any questions and I hope that is helpful!
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dooqi glass: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dooqi-Full...var=541441961034&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
XFactor glue: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GY4LL3G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
UV flashlight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-LED-U...035402?hash=item5d7a6eb9ca:g:ZHoAAOSwKXdaconH
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Almost every curved glass I've seen has a black border. While I haven't tested it, I would think that the black paint would block the UV lamp and prevent proper curing. I've removed the black paint from the glass by using Goof-Off Pro Grade or a similar solvent like acetone. Just be careful around plastics, since these solvents can melt them.
Sticking just with original black band glue on the edges and LOCA on the screen is not a viable solution according to you?
ED2O9 said:
Almost every curved glass I've seen has a black border. While I haven't tested it, I would think that the black paint would block the UV lamp and prevent proper curing. I've removed the black paint from the glass by using Goof-Off Pro Grade or a similar solvent like acetone. Just be careful around plastics, since these solvents can melt them.
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oglaolga said:
Sticking just with original black band glue on the edges and LOCA on the screen is not a viable solution according to you?
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No... why would you do that? The LOCA glue would prevent the adhesive strip from sticking to the screen. Just peel the strip off and use LOCA for the whole screen.