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Does the type cover scratch the surfaces display?

Hello there,
do you guys know if the type cover scratches the surface display? I do know that mine is just a few weeks old and I was good to it, meaning it didn*t fall down or anything like that. Still, I got some scratches in it. I now think that this could be because of the type cover. Do you guys have any experience with that. And: Are there better covers out there, maybe even thinner? I don't need the keys all the time anyway.

The type cover,you mean the keyboard thingy?it never did scratch my surface
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2 covers available at the moment. The type cover and the touch cover. They are being replaced with the type 2 and touch 2 which are slightly slimmer, backlit and in the case of the touch 2 have more sensors so should be more accurate plus support multitouch gestures on the trackpad. There is also the power cover which seems to be a thicker type cover with a battery in it for charging a surface pro, surface pro 2 or surface 2 but *not* the surface RT (where it would just serve as a thicker type cover).
None of those cases should scratch the display. They are plastic, the screen is gorilla glass. Gorilla glass can only really be damaged by very sharp edges, sand/other grit and a few minerals. In your case most likely grit damaged it. Plastic could not scratch it.

It's a hard surface that can grind dust into screen when it's closed up. That goes for anything really, the risk is there. I have a few tiny dot marks on screen after using type cover for a few months and keeping everything clean and in a sleeve when not used. No big damage that I can even notice with screen on, though.

johnchad14 said:
It's a hard surface that can grind dust into screen when it's closed up. That goes for anything really, the risk is there. I have a few tiny dot marks on screen after using type cover for a few months and keeping everything clean and in a sleeve when not used. No big damage that I can even notice with screen on, though.
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Mine is pretty noticable. I got a new surface RT without scratches and I'm kinda afraid now to use the type cover again...

Sephi said:
Mine is pretty noticable. I got a new surface RT without scratches and I'm kinda afraid now to use the type cover again...
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Is it in an environment with alot of dirt and grit? It wouldnt just have to be the cover, it lying face down, going into a padded sleeve or the touch cover could also rub dirt over the front of your tablet.

SixSixSevenSeven said:
Is it in an environment with alot of dirt and grit? It wouldnt just have to be the cover, it lying face down, going into a padded sleeve or the touch cover could also rub dirt over the front of your tablet.
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No, it's really not. For example, my Galaxy Note, and I really really wasn't good to it and it fell down quite a few times or were together with my keys in my pocket - does not have any noticable scratches. The Surface however has quite some big, deep ones which are clearly noticable even when the screen is on. And I don't know there they are supposed to come from other than the type cover.

OK, the type cover is DEFINITLY scratching the display. I got a few more scratches today after I took it with me in my bag and used the type cover as protection. The scratches all look kinda similiar and they are all in the upper region, I guess there is more contraction there. Horrible, I would NOT use the type cover as an actual display protection.

The strange thing is the scratches are all in the area without keys, the area where the touchpad is but to the sides, so it's no rough surface (no pun intended). I don't know where the scratches are coming from en masse but they are there, it's horrible. I know ordered this bag here: http://www.amazon.de/dp/B00D1HQPQC/ref=pe_386171_38075861_TE_item
Any thoughts?

Thats an absolute physical impossibility.
All materials have a hardness (or several hardnesses dependant on the method of measurement but the general principle applies the same).
In order for material A to scratch material B, material A must be harder than material B.
Plastic is not as hard as gorilla glass, nor is it rough edged (a very sharp point of a softer material if forced hard enough will scratch another harder material). Expecting a flat piece of plastic to scratch the glass on the surface is like throwing a ball in the air and expecting it to fall, doesn't happen.
If there is something in between then it can happen. Sand for example, it is harder than gorilla glass, its also a small particle that tends to stick to your screen so when you shut the cover on it the cover will be forcing the sand into the screen, due to the nature of the hinge on the surface the cover can wobble forwards and back a few mm rubbing the sand grain over a small area. Other bits of dirt can do it again, small bits of mud or whatever.
Plastic at most could only transfer the coating of the plastic to the glass which would wipe off, and that I highly doubt would happen.
As for more contraction, that would entirely be down to how you store the device. The touch cover only attaches with a simple flap, its free to drop open or closed at any time, if its stored with slightly more force in one corner then its not going to apply the force terribly equally across the device.

But where is it coming from? Scratches are everywhere and by no chance I got sand in my bag or anywhere else. It's been months since the last time I saw some sand. Living in the middle of germany.

It doesnt necessarily have to be beach sand. Concrete dust, mud, construction sand. All could do it (mud less so). Sand has a tendancy to hide in small spots in bags if there is any (or transfer from other items). Anything could be the cause, i find it highly unlikely to be the cover itself.
One thing you could try, can you find a sheet of soft fabric or foam or something that you could cut to size and wedge between the cover and screen. Might reduce the impact of whatever is going on. Can keep the sheet loose in your bag, stick it in when closing the cover. Or simply fold the keyboard over the back of the unit and put it in a netbook sleeve but that would be leaving the glass exposed to knocks etc

Well, I really looked into my bag but I can't find any sand or anything like that. Dust, obviously, is everywhere all the time. Like I stated before, y my GNOte is basically scratch free after 1,5 years of abusive use. I don't get it.

Sephi said:
Well, I really looked into my bag but I can't find any sand or anything like that. Dust, obviously, is everywhere all the time. Like I stated before, y my GNOte is basically scratch free after 1,5 years of abusive use. I don't get it.
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YES, the type cover WILL scratch the display. I have heard it from other people and I have it myself.
NO, it is not the material, it is any grit that gets trapped in between them. Get a tiny grain of sand in there, you are in trouble.
YES, I use a screen protector now and it is getting trashed.
NOW I carry a large micro fiber cloth in my carrying case. Before putting the Surface away, I wipe off the display and keyboard. That has reduce the amount of damage. I'll still need to replace the screen protector often, but I'm OK with that compared to more glass damage.

I hate screen protectors with a passion. I will just stop using type cover then...

after reading this thread it is very bad news, this is a poor design by microsoft if they did not consider this. no laptop i have ever had scratches the display but many cheaper laptops ive had leave dust imprint around the keys and sometimes the keys even pressed the screen. now that the screens are so hard like glass obviously if little particles get trapped and rub it will scratch it. too bad as this was going to be my first gorilla glass product. i hate scratches so will ignore the type cover. even the touch cover will have the same issue if it is completely flush and pressed against the display.
what a damn shame

Indeed it does. I bought mine on Sunday night. Monday afternoon I noticed a scratch/pit on my screen when I was cleaning it off. I looked at the type cover, and there was a piece of grit/sand stuck in the soft, flat part where my right palm is not supposed to rest.
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willusdun said:
after reading this thread it is very bad news, this is a poor design by microsoft if they did not consider this. no laptop i have ever had scratches the display but many cheaper laptops ive had leave dust imprint around the keys and sometimes the keys even pressed the screen. now that the screens are so hard like glass obviously if little particles get trapped and rub it will scratch it. too bad as this was going to be my first gorilla glass product. i hate scratches so will ignore the type cover. even the touch cover will have the same issue if it is completely flush and pressed against the display.
what a damn shame
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Microsoft likely did consider it, and decided that having a slimmer overall product would generate more revenue.
Some laptops dont have this issue because they have "spacers" around the screen that maintain a small gap between the keys and the screen when closed.
My Thinkpad has markings on its screen from its own keyboard, even though theres a massive 2-3mm gap between the keys and screen when closed. This is because the screen can flex a bit and likely got smushed into my keys (I'm pretty rough with my Thinkpad).
There isnt much you can do about it, almost every product has this issue.
My HTC One sits in my pocket with nothing else in it, and it has markings on it. I haven't been anywhere near a beach since I got the phone.
So like someone else said, all sorts of particles can scratch your screen.
Even Macbooks have this issue, its the reason why people sell specially cut microfiber cloths that are meant to be placed between screen and keyboard when Macbook is closed.
Either get a screen protector, deal with it, or wait a few decades until they make glass strong enough to resist everything.

My HP sleekbook has an imprint from the keys on the screen. I had my laptop bag on the passenger seat of my car, was cut up really badly by someone at 50mph, immediately wished that my car had decent ABS which it doesnt as it made a nice tyre squeal. Laptop bag slammed to floor, opened it up, laptop 100% intact, just has key imprints on the screen which are actually rubbing off (does literally seem to be dirt rather than physical damage).

I have my Surface RT with touch cover. I have been using it for a year. I never put any screen protector and I have scratches on screen. I carry my surface in my bag pretty much every week day. I don't find the scratches affecting any usability or affecting the quality of display. When the screen lights up while using, you are not going to see those scratches that easy. Only when screen off and at certain angle you will be able to see some. It's just a device for use for couple years, relax and enjoy it. Putting screen protector will protect the screen from scratches, but degrade your display color, viewing angle, reflection, brigtness, touch feel, etc.

Spigen strong flex case

Has anyone had any issues with this case scratching the metal lining of their phone?

Yeah I just noticed that. It's mainly at the top and bottom by the earpiece and home button. I just don't understand how the case could do that.

Yes, the inside side part of the case is a bit too sharp.

I like the feel I this case tho. I hate that it scratches the metal

Same here, only very small scratching tho and honestly i dont see how you can avoid it with any case. All you need to do is use a small thin piece of electrical tape to cover metal part and no more scratches. Also if you use the heart rate sensor good luck with this case. I dont use it so it didnt matter to me.

Ive also noticed this. I hate it but oh well i guess. It's from taking the case off. So leave the case on or be careful i guess.

Roocase glacier tough

So Ive been trying to decide on a new case for a while since I'm moving away from the otterbox defender that I usually buy for my phones. I came across this one. And it just came in this morning.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=171778123626&alt=web
I don't like really thin cases that aren't good for anything more than scratch proofing.
That being said this case isn't exactly thin, nor is it as bulky as an OB defender. I wanted a case that would protect my phone from falls, and decided this would be worth a try (especially since I got it for 9$+shipping). I wasn't disappointed, the very first thing I did was clean my phone, put it in the case, and drop tested it from 6 feet, into a faceplant and it survived without a scratch.it's got good protection on the corner, and the case looks very nice with the acrylic back that lets you see the phone through it.
I definitely trust this case to protect my M9 from normal, everyday usage and drops. That being said I would not be willing to test throwing my phone across a room like I would with an OBD, since this case has no shock proofing on the back due to the transparent acrylic.
The built in screen protector works great as well. I already had a Zagg scratch proof protector on (not the tempered glass, or the thick HD one and left it on) and I haven't lost any responsiveness to my screen. The built in protector does add a slightly annoying glare though.
Definitely a good case, and like all cases has its share of cons, but for the price, I 100% recommend it. Even if you only find it for the 20$ its usually advertised for.
Edit: I also forgot to mention that the cover for the charging port is somewhat hard to open, and hard to keep open. It will probably wear over time and become easier, but as of right now it is a slight hassle.
Edit2: After using the case for a few weeks, the charging port is no longer an issue. I've gotten rid of my Zagg screen protector, and removed the built in protector from the case. Instead using the Spartan tempered glass screen protector.
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Thank you for your review. It's nice to know that this case can withstand a drop from a few feet. I know that I get nervous with it falling-- I mean, these phones are not just expensive, but they are our "friends" that we take with us everywhere we go. That is pretty sad, huh?

If I could figure out how to get my phone out of this cinder block I'd have it out already. This is essentially an iPhone-shaped case for a not-iPhone. The curvature at the back of the phone is lost (though it does trap dirt between the clear platen and the back of the phone). The cover on the charging port, which is mostly pointless because there are lots of open ports on the case, makes it difficult to connect to my car holder. The plastic isn't a consistent colour between the front and the sides. It was a bastard to get the phone in, and now it's a bastard to get the phone out.
The screen cover is great, and there's every indication that the shock protection is good. The big square plastic buttons are easy to press.
Compared with either Otterbox (which is what I've had on my past HTC phones) this isn't as good.

Damosel said:
If I could figure out how to get my phone out of this cinder block I'd have it out already. This is essentially an iPhone-shaped case for a not-iPhone. The curvature at the back of the phone is lost (though it does trap dirt between the clear platen and the back of the phone). The cover on the charging port, which is mostly pointless because there are lots of open ports on the case, makes it difficult to connect to my car holder. The plastic isn't a consistent colour between the front and the sides. It was a bastard to get the phone in, and now it's a bastard to get the phone out.
The screen cover is great, and there's every indication that the shock protection is good. The big square plastic buttons are easy to press.
Compared with either Otterbox (which is what I've had on my past HTC phones) this isn't as good.
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The case is easiest to take off if you peel the rubber back from the corner right above the buttons.
Based on the fact that its 1/5 the price of the otterbox, for roughly 3/4 of the protection level it offers, I would still recommend this case as a cheaper alternative.
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chaosrde said:
The case is easiest to take off if you peel the rubber back from the corner right above the buttons. Sent from my HTC One M9 using XDA Free mobile app
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chaosrde is right on the money. Using the spudger or guitar pick makes the job that much easier. I received a Glacier Touch case from Roocase for review purposes and ran into this. While the case is tough to take off, it does mean that phone is secure. It's a nice case that allows you to show off the nice metal casing of your phone. I dropped it a few times and neither the case nor phone showed any sign of damage, though due to it being clear and glossy the case does show scratches a lot easier. The case seems a bit bulky even with my large hands, but I think this is due to the box-iness of the case. It's more of a personal gripe than something wrong with the case. The built-in screen protector is nice, but does feel cheap (as most built-in screen protectors do) so if you pop it off and use a glass screen protector I don't blame you.
The only issue I had with it is what Damosel mentioned: Dust and dirt seem to get into the case a bit too easily and ends up collecting on the back side of the case. This is due to the case not being fitted to the back of the phone. This can lead to the metal back getting scratched which is something that bothers me. If there was an insert you could put inside the case that fit snugly behind the back I think it would be a nice improvement.
I agree with chaosrde that for the price point and the protection it offers, the Roocase Glacier Tough case is a nice alternative to the Otterbox Defender.

Problems Caused by Orzly Fusion Bumper Case?

Hi
Does anyone else here own that case?
It seems to me that its a bit too tight on the device, causing problems...
First of all the pressure on the corners when taking the case off made the plastic going around the screen near the metal frame just broke on the top left corner. [I will try to upload a picture later]
Also, tiny dust/sand/others stuck between the case and the device are pressing so hard on it, it leaves marks on the aluminium (which is not very strong..). So now I have two dots on the bottom of the device and 3-4 on the back. I bought a dbrand skin (actually not because of the marks) so these are less a problem, but the plastic that broke is annoying.
I CANT BE SURE ITS CAUSED BY THE CASE!
I'm almost sure, especially the plastic breaking, but I can't be 100% sure.
Thats why I opened this thread... Wanted to know if anyone else owns this case and had similar problems.

I own and use that case too and have no problems whatsoever.

EnterLordVader said:
I own and use that case too and have no problems whatsoever.
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Is it tight and requires some force (compared to other cases, not extreme force..) to take off?

DubelBoom said:
Is it tight and requires some force (compared to other cases, not extreme force..) to take off?
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The Supcase and Speck are very tight fitting cases. Neither case has subjected my phone to any marks or damage.

I also had this case - ended up with lots dents in back of phone from dirt getting in around camera and power cord cut out. Very annoyed and disappointed.

Note 7 edge to edge full adhesive screen protector

I have skimmed through the pages in the other tempered glass screen protector threads. I have yet to find a manufacturer who makes an edge to edge protector that adheres to the entire screen rather than just the top and bottom.
My issue is that with a water proof device, anytime it is exposed to water (every day for me as I place it on the shelf in the shower to listen to music), water becomes trapped underneath the tempered glass.
Anyone picked up a model that would remedy this?

no one currently makes one

Why did you feel the need to open a whole new thread for something that has been discussed at length in many other threads? no, there is no solution yet.

Doesn't the official Samsung one do this ?

The official Samsung one is plastic, not glass.

The official Samsung one is not tempered glass.
I strongly advice against getting curved tempered glass. Or any screen protector with curve protection.
I got my replacement Note 7 and I decided to just use a flat film protector and leave the sides exposed. So much easier to use this way.

which flat one did you get!
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BozQ said:
The official Samsung one is not tempered glass.
I strongly advice against getting curved tempered glass. Or any screen protector with curve protection.
I got my replacement Note 7 and I decided to just use a flat film protector and leave the sides exposed. So much easier to use this way.
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I went nude screen on the explosive n7 because i knew i was going to exchange it and i only managed to get one scratch and it was on the edge. I think i know how it happened.
Be careful

BozQ said:
The official Samsung one is not tempered glass.
I strongly advice against getting curved tempered glass. Or any screen protector with curve protection.
I got my replacement Note 7 and I decided to just use a flat film protector and leave the sides exposed. So much easier to use this way.
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It feels like **** though. I had an IQ Liquid Shield on my old Note 7, and it felt nice in the hand. Barely a bump in feeling, some around the edges but not really noticeable. This current new Note 7 has factory screen protectors, both front and back. But they feel sharp and edgy, they don't cover the curves. I have actual sleeping nightmares about applying a brand new IQ Liquid Shield protector I already have, and it peeling horribly at corners. fEa.r me..?

Yeah. So I got my replacement n7 today. Picked up a Qmadix "first defense" screen protector. Guess what? It's edge to edge and the adhesive goes all the way around the screen. Just got out of the shower (phone got soaked), no water under the glass.
There is no reason to be rude.. Obviously, the other threads "discussed at length" on the subject failed to stumble upon this gem.
Thanks everyone. I'm only 5 hours in but I have no complaints. No halo, sits flush. Thicker than the Verizon branded one I had previously. Has kind of a unique cut out for the Samsung logo. I also purchased a camera, hearbeat sensor, and home button glass.. I'm set lol.
Edit: forgot to mention the Qmadix also comes in all three colors. I purchased black respectively.

filthimoney said:
Yeah. So I got my replacement n7 today. Picked up a Qmadix "first defense" screen protector. Guess what? It's edge to edge and the adhesive goes all the way around the screen. Just got out of the shower (phone got soaked), no water under the glass.
There is no reason to be rude.. Obviously, the other threads "discussed at length" on the subject failed to stumble upon this gem.
Thanks everyone. I'm only 5 hours in but I have no complaints. No halo, sits flush. Thicker than the Verizon branded one I had previously. Has kind of a unique cut out for the Samsung logo. I also purchased a camera, hearbeat sensor, and home button glass.. I'm set lol.
Edit: forgot to mention the Qmadix also comes in all three colors. I purchased black respectively.
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Other threads didn't find this so called gem of yours, then mention it there, that's the whole point of the original tempered glass thread. To discuss solutions. Not make a new thread for the EXACT same thing. It's just annoying to have multiple threads for literally the exact same topic. Surely you get that.
Anyway. Do u have any photos or share so we can see how it looks?
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Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, I don't know if it is full adhesive or not...... http://zerolemon.com/product/case-f...-for-samsung-galaxy-note-7-lifetime-warranty/

probably not full adhered.
Snowleopard1900 said:
Not sure if anyone has seen this yet, I don't know if it is full adhesive or not...... http://zerolemon.com/product/case-f...-for-samsung-galaxy-note-7-lifetime-warranty/
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i tried dozens of them looks just like that, most of them only have adhesive on the sides or the top+bottom. all returned.
i suspect this one will be the same, but its not available to purchase on Amazon yet. Guest i will try this too.
i will report see how it goes. but i have no hope at all.
case friendly and curved too on the design like that..?? dont know thats legit or not.

This will work 100%, even my case won't peel the screen cover.
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https://amzn.com/B01HN2T6YI
you must get this specific version for the full cover. there's a lot of different variations. also let the film completely dry before you even attempt to wrap down the sides. you can use your palms, squeegee, and blow dryer. Remember the water spray is only for help with placement. When this film dries, its very stick and adhesive.
i just hate TPU material, its spongy, soft, leaves imprints and a weird texture. but it does full cover. tempered glass and PET film will never do that.

chillsen said:
This will work 100%, even my case won't peel the screen cover.
http://imgur.com/a/sq0n5
https://amzn.com/B01HN2T6YI
you must get this specific version for the full cover. there's a lot of different variations. also let the film completely dry before you even attempt to wrap down the sides. you can use your palms, squeegee, and blow dryer. Remember the water spray is only for help with placement. When this film dries, its very stick and adhesive.
i just hate TPU material, its spongy, soft, leaves imprints and a weird texture. but it does full cover. tempered glass and PET film will never do that.
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Your case doesn't even go around all the edges.

borijess said:
Your case doesn't even go around all the edges.
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the sides of the case overlap the screen protector with zero lifting. it would obviously work the same way for any case, even those that cover the top and bottom

chillsen said:
the sides of the case overlap the screen protector with zero lifting. it would obviously work the same way for any case, even those that cover the top and bottom
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I have the same protector updated version on my note 7. Did the shrink wrap trick too when i applied it. Came out nice after 12hrs. Once I put my UAG case it started to lift edges. I had to use a credit card to slide case phone in without lifting edges. So I thought I was all good right. Nope a day later it started to lift on the top side and bottom side. I have to smooth it back to down continuously. So either you got lucky or you case does not life the edges.

borijess said:
I have the same protector updated version on my note 7. Did the shrink wrap trick too when i applied it. Came out nice too. Once I put my UAG case it started to lift edges. I had to use a credit card to slide case phone in without lifting edges. So I thought I was all good right. Nope a day later it started to lift on the top side and bottom side. I have to smooth it back to down continuously. So either you got lucky or you case does not life the edges.
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maybe it was the way you put it on? as in one side you will comfortable be able to tuck it under but the other side kinda snapped on and slid/lifted the cover in order for the case to snap on?

mahdibassam said:
Other threads didn't find this so called gem of yours, then mention it there, that's the whole point of the original tempered glass thread. To discuss solutions. Not make a new thread for the EXACT same thing. It's just annoying to have multiple threads for literally the exact same topic. Surely you get that.
Anyway. Do u have any photos or share so we can see how it looks?
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Not sure if you found it yet, but here is the screen protector he was mentioning. Got good reviews (from a handful of people so far) but is pretty pricey at $35 U.S.

ohblindone said:
Not sure if you found it yet, but here is the screen protector he was mentioning. Got good reviews (from a handful of people so far) but is pretty pricey at $35 U.S.
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Just installed this. I think i know why most companies only use glue on the top or bottom. The quality of the product is good. The packaging is great but i would rather get something a little more simple and maybe save on the cost.
I have yet to turn on my replacement N7 so i cant speak on clarity but the fit is decent. It even works with my Seidio Dilex case on even though its "full screen"
Here is my one problem so far (its only been an hour since install) there is a slight clicking sound when you press on some areas. The edges etc. This is the reason why i think most companies dont use glue on the sides. I think this is where the clicking sound is coming from. I think i installed it as best as i could but who knows. Maybe its my fault.
Im going to try to use it for a while to see how well it works and if i can stand the clicking sound. This is my 1st glass screen protector for the N7 and i dont think ill try more in the future. I just wanted to try one out.