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Discussion by Newbs for Newbs. SGS4g Only.

Ok guys So you own a SGS4g now what? Well lets just air out a few thing that get Devs absolutely fired up.
1) Requesting ROM features.
2) Ordering them to do something.
3) Repeatedly asking the same question.
4) Demanding
5) Complaining
6) Asking for a ETA on Alphas
7) Harassing
8) Threatening
I could keep going on about what makes them mad but there is already a thread about that. This thread is to Distract Noobs away from bugging the Devs by discussing ROMS with each other and answering each others questions that would normally bug Devs. Yes Devs are welcome here, but mainly this is thread to prevent Noobs from pestering the Devs about things that can be answered by other Noobs (or Google). Noobs feel free to ask, discuss, and converse away. Just remember flaming is bad so just don't do it. If you honestly don't understand the difference between positive criticism and negative then just don't criticise anyone. Better yet lets keep negativity to ourselves.
Lets get a few Questions out of the way.
Q) Does the SGS4g have an ICS ROM yet.
A) Yes There are several
Q) Who's fault is it if I brick my SGS4g?
A) YOURS, Obviously you failed to follow instructions.
Q) What's the difference between a soft brick and a hard brick.
A) One is ceramic and one is foam!! JK

DEFINITIONS you need know as a NOOB
NOOB A person only intent in serving on their own self interest.
Newb Person new to XDA
Member A person who has joined XDA
Dev Developer
RD recognised developer
MOD Modification/Moderator
ROM Read only memory
WIP work in progress
CWM Clock work mod recovery

Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha

erikmm said:
Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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True Enough LOL, Now only if people would use this thread. There Is something disturbing about a forum By noobs for noobs and first comment is from a DEV Oh well we will see if it works.

Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members

erikmm said:
Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Fare Enough Lol.

Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Port. I wouldn't hold my breathe for Samsung to release it.

gabrielshaste said:
Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Of course it will be a port dude ^^ and be patient and enjoy GB roms as I know team acid and kickass are doing perfect jobs on more even bigger things for us <3
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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bot42 said:
on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasnt none of them would have agreed to it.

Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.

FBis251 said:
Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Nice catch FB.
(off topic) I've been on IRC on and off all week and haven't found you FB lol.

FBis251 said:
Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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I was going to say, it's kind of funny a guy starting a thread for "noobs" and he can't even spell discussion. Lol.
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There you go thanks. I tend to be a little sleep deprived when I can get a chance to steal the computer away from the kids.

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eollie said:
Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasn't none of them would have agreed to it.
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True but it's all about sales, if they feel that upgrading your phone will prevent you from buying the competitor, especially if the competitor releases a phone that is cheaper then their current market topper. It only makes perfect business sense if you can't sell them something new, prevent them from buying from someone else. If you have noticed that's why updates tend to always be released/leaked around the same time as a new competitors phone is released.

I would like to apologize to Lumin and fb I made and guide that was based off incorrect info, they stuck by there guns in correcting me. I was wrong as happens sometimes. The guide should be removed soon.
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No need to apologize. Just glad you finally listened

I am not about to let someone brick their phone. Just because I was stubborn.
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For those now on ICS
I have found an awesome new version of the XDA app, no I didn't develop it I found it.
It is an ICS themed blue XDA Developers APK Developed by Whiskey103.
It is the free version but if you are OCD and love colors to match then here you go.
Click here:laugh:

Good bye, friends !!

I am totally ****ed up and my phone is screwd.. My warranty got over. Still gave it in the service centre. Replaced the motherboard.. i had to pay 5000 rs.. Still problem persists.. Now they are asking to change the touch screen panel.. It costs rs 7000.. I cnt afford it.. :crying::crying::crying:
Just wanna thank everyone for all the help..Skin1980, Namalass, Vishal, GM, Codeworkx, Dhiru, Tarunagg, Ganesh, krazy, blaqkarma.. Hav enjoyed their works tremendously.. If i left anyones name, forgive me..
Hav been enjoying xda more than fb for the past 1 year.. Hope the development works go on.. Hope we will hav a CM7, CM9 AND CM10.. Hope dhiru will try making a perfect cm7 while we are waiting for kernel 3.. Hillbeast, good luck..
To Vishal and Dhiru : Apologies.. I wanted to donate to the project.. But i cudnt.. WAs busy with rural medical camps that month.. When i got back, it was over..
Now i hav to depend on my rock solid nokia 1200.. Hav fun, my brothers !!

hope to see you back soon on xda.

Bye bye friend

All the best man. Hope you get back on board soon.

Good luck buddy. Nice to have met u

Bye Bro, we were all unlucky to have used this phone, which is so problematic for many. Get a better phone which doesn't have so many bugs
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bscraze said:
Bye Bro, we were all unlucky to have used this phone, which is so problematic for many. Get a better phone which doesn't have so many bugs
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sorry bro but i loved my sl when i saw it first n my still in love with it.Samsung firmware has made it crap.I think many will agree
Sorry for off topic n OT

I think this is an awesome phone and Samsung is quite good as well. They are doing what makes good business sense for them, without breaking any rules or laws.
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I see too much yawning here, and exaggeration...
Stock Latest UAE firmware is stable and smooth, but yes, it's Gingerbread.
Today CM9 alpha 10 was released, with noticeable improvements, and dhiru said CM10 will follow.
I had no problems whatsoever with the phone except lately when i dropped it from a window (1st floor) to concrete, this caused the plastic back to crack, it dropped straight so there was no screen damage.
So, it's a great phone, but YOU are not lucky.
Of course i have an S3 as a daily device, but i am still quite happy with the SL.

did they make you pay Rs 5000 for motherboard even though the problem wasn't fixed ?

neojith said:
I am totally ****ed up and my phone is screwd.. My warranty got over. Still gave it in the service centre. Replaced the motherboard.. i had to pay 5000 rs.. Still problem persists.. Now they are asking to change the touch screen panel.. It costs rs 7000.. I cnt afford it.. :crying::crying::crying:
Just wanna thank everyone for all the help..Skin1980, Namalass, Vishal, GM, Codeworkx, Dhiru, Tarunagg, Ganesh, krazy, blaqkarma.. Hav enjoyed their works tremendously.. If i left anyones name, forgive me..
Hav been enjoying xda more than fb for the past 1 year.. Hope the development works go on.. Hope we will hav a CM7, CM9 AND CM10.. Hope dhiru will try making a perfect cm7 while we are waiting for kernel 3.. Hillbeast, good luck..
To Vishal and Dhiru : Apologies.. I wanted to donate to the project.. But i cudnt.. WAs busy with rural medical camps that month.. When i got back, it was over..
Now i hav to depend on my rock solid nokia 1200.. Hav fun, my brothers !!
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Buy new bugless phone...
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@ neojith
Its really sad that ur phone is really screwed in a bad way. I dont know but my doubt is that samsung is charging u more than actual price.
Also no need to apolgise buddy for not donating. Money is only not a parameter to measure anyone's contribution for sgsl. You have always helped many members. I dont think so that u should leave this community because u dont have this phone anymore. Still u can help members & enjoy dhiru & other developer's work
So please dont leave this community. We all need good experienced members here

I agree with vishal.
Though your hands on experience with sgsl would have ended, but still you'd be possessing a lot of knowledge about procedures to be followed, issues that pop up and their solution.
Keep sharing, and helping other users.
Even I'm a temporary user as my phone has been exchanged for 2-3 months. As the time for leaving this phone is coming near, I DON'T PLAN TO LEAVE THIS COMMUNITY, will keep helping others with the small deal of knowledge I've gathered from other members. Just developed a liking for it, so continue if you please.

My turn to ask you a question, n00bs.

Ok, Some people new to the XDA forums hate being called n00bs. But if your post count is less then 100 posts... You're a n00b.
It's ok. We love you
But riddle me this... Why do you want to root your phone or install a custom rom? Most roms posted to the developer section are unstable and not ready enough for normal phone users to use. Most roms in there are for advanced users. And I really don't think everyone in the sgs4g forum are advanced. (I know who you are if you're advanced, or I might not if you don't post at all...). You could brick your phone, you could make your phone un-returnable. You WILL void your warranty.
A lot of n00bs have problems installing roms or rooting their phones, but why do it in the first place?
Are you doing it to install a root required application?
Are you doing it to update your rom to a newer version?
Not getting the support you expected from t-mo/samsung? Do you really think we are going to continue to support you for the next 5+ years? (cause I know I wont )
Vote and post here. I really want to understand not just what you want, but why!?

For fun muahahah...(I can still be counted as a n00b, rite? )
Heh, jk, me, just because I love all WIP of team acid, kickass/fah-q and unknown hehe...and I am trying to brick my phone to see just how strong it is lol muahahaha...(and only have root and CMW or TWRP that I can brick it hehe)
P/s: love all of u devs
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daothanhduy1996 said:
For fun muahahah...(I can still be counted as a n00b, rite? )
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No, You are def not a n00b. Sorry... NEXT!
daothanhduy1996 said:
Heh, jk, me, just because I love all WIP of team acid, kickass/fah-q and unknown hehe...and I am trying to brick my phone to see just how strong it is lol muahahaha...(and only have root and CMW or TWRP that I can brick it hehe)
P/s: love all of u devs
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Oh yea You know I love releasing WIP and watching n00bs squirm in their mom's computer chair...
There are two ways to brick the phone...
create a blank file that is any size smaller then 256k... heimdall it to the sbl partition. BAM! YOU ARE HARD BRICKED
raise your phone way up over your head, and throw your phone on the ground as hard as you can (TOUCH DOWN!!!)
Otherwise, you can still get into download mode, and you are just soft-bricked. This phone is amazing that way

Soo if this is my first post what that mqkes me ?!!
Anyway ...
I rooted my phone so i can use an app (yes one app is enough reason for me )
And befor anyone asks ... I just bought the XDA app to support this group of helpfull and nice people .
And i will NEVER use a rom till atleast i buy a new phone and turn this one into experiment field xD
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shbear said:
Soo if this is my first post what that mqkes me ?!!
Anyway ...
I rooted my phone so i can use an app (yes one app is enough reason for me )
And befor anyone asks ... I just bought the XDA app to support this group of helpfull and nice people .
And i will NEVER use a rom till atleast i buy a new phone and turn this one into experiment field xD
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Sounds promising... what was the App you needed root for?
BTW, welcome to voided warranty land
(btw, please remember to vote on the poll at the top!)

Surely less than 100 posts makes you a noob...silly noobs!
But on the other hand I think having more than 1000 posts only proves how lonely you must be...maybe you need a girlfriend?
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Titanium backup pro
I wold definitely marry the guy who made it if i were a girl hehe
And with all respect to other devs who made SU and Busybox i know that i needed them but i don't know what for yet ... You know l'm not a scientist
P.S: ofc i did installation of some of the must be rooted but they weren't my motivation .
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m4127440 said:
But on the other hand I think having more than 1000 posts only proves how lonely you must be...maybe you need a girlfriend?
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Unless that 1000 has nearly half is useful then what made u think a troll needs a gf lmfao...that 1000 posts just for some cookies muahahahaha
P/s: Crappyyyyyy Support...yay \m/...I miss the [email protected]!ng boy said to my face about garbage WIPs of all of our devs now =]]

I personally screwed up my very first T-Mobile G1. The first time I flashed a from I was able to get the HTC Hero Rom... Somewhere along the line I became unsatisfied (the same night) and tried to force sd-ext, which was said to be possible using adb... Lack of sleep turned my phone into a paper weight. Anyway, one of my biggest fascinations was being able to get around carrier and manufacturer rules: expanding limited storage, removing apps considered system by force... But once you pop, you just can't stop... Now I'm happy to have a nearly complete OS people from T-Mobile say the phone can't handle. For now having the smoothest and most responsive phone I could have on the latest OS does it for me. I don't want jelly bean. I'm happy to have what I got.
I also built my first computer when I was 13 and I haven't yet stopped being fascinated by technology.
Oh and as for warranty voided, a bricked phone is the same as one dropped in the pool, ran over by your truck and eaten by your dog... Easily replaced if you say it is stolen. I think my deductible is like $140, not terribly bad for the clear cut instructions.
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Hey Mr Bryan (yeah Mr Bryan and I'm Mr Carlos lol) will you call a noob for somebody who open 1000 threads just for only one question, somebody who ask and persist for an ETA and for somebody who gives bad opinions of a rom without even testing?
Edit ohh btw will you call a noob for somebody who doesn't read the instruction and rules and start crying because he/she screw his/her phone ?
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Well whether or not you want to call me a n00b is up to you. But as for the question...
I needed root to run FB's unlocker, so I could unlock the phone from T-Mo and move it to my current provider. Requires root, and custom ROMs are always nice to have, as well as the improved performance, battery life, overall change in aesthetics, and the ability to use ICS on the SGS4G, with all the yummy features that it includes, unlocking the full potential of the device, and overall as a hobby.
So what should I check as my answer for the poll if I'm a noob?

Im a noob
This is my first post on this forum but ive been rooting phones an installing custom roms since i was 10

daothanhduy1996 said:
For fun muahahah...(I can still be counted as a n00b, rite? )
Heh, jk, me, just because I love all WIP of team acid, kickass/fah-q and unknown hehe...and I am trying to brick my phone to see just how strong it is lol muahahaha...(and only have root and CMW or TWRP that I can brick it hehe)
P/s: love all of u devs
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LMAO.

I love it when people get butt hurt for being called a noob. Noobs!

First off this Blaze is not mine....I have way better phones I'm just broke and have no wifi...don't even get me started on the tethering...anyway when I rooted my Vibrant some years back I thought I needed root to unlock it...then when I rooted it I started learning about [email protected]&! and completely forgot about unlocking it...performance. Im still learning...soft brick on Odin cause I'm impatient and stuff. Most people I see using phones barely know how to turn them on and don't use them for much more than facebook...giving them a flashed overclocked joint is like given a gun to 2 year old..sorry for the rant..long story short I root cause if I want ICS or JB on my $&[email protected] I'm gonna get it and if it ain't 1.4 GHz minimum I don't want it. Stay motivated
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No butt hurting here... I don't mind being called one. Its a learning process. We were all once one unless you created the first android. :sly:
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I think for the most part it was because I knew the phone would not get further support from t-mo or Samsung. And no I don't expect 5+ yrs of support. I'll be happy with what I get till I can upgrade phones.
And, yes I am a senior member but I thought I'd chime in anyway since my senior member status is still fairly new.
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You can call me an escalated noob. I'm going to get help from team unknown which I am part of now and my Java mentor who taught me Java flawlessly. I'm going to be developing a heavily themed ics rom. But don't worry tuk I'm not going to bother you by asking every question I have, I shall self teach myself about android with the help of my mentor. So you can call me a developing noob.

powser

My profile says I've been a member since 2007 with 130 posts. I'm pretty sure I've been a member longer than that. Anyway..... Custom roms is my reason. Back in my WinMo days, I created a few roms.
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Joelz developing ROM for S3?

I read a couple months back that Joelz was starting to develop ROM's for the S3. I haven't seen anything as of yet and was just wondering. I was a big fan of his when I had my Droid Incredible.

Lol. In b4 the lock. He took the phone and never did any developing for it. He should be banned from here
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he posted a pic
it was retweated, by someone , i forgot who , he has 4.2.1 booting on his s3.
here is the link
https://twitter.com/joelz9614/status/275617082744381440/photo/1
However, please lets try to be civil about this . Lets not throw a bash party again.
I think it was Dmeadows but i can be really wrong. He said ETA would be two weeks after its stable.

jmichaels1982 said:
it was retweated, by someone , i forgot who , he has 4.2.1 booting on his s3.
here is the link
https://twitter.com/joelz9614/status/275617082744381440/photo/1
However, please lets try to be civil about this . Lets not throw a bash party again.
I think it was Dmeadows but i can be really wrong. He said ETA would be two weeks after its stable.
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The date on that ROM is this past Monday. Is he uploading to another site other than here? Or is he still working on things for the time being?

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Crossxcalibur said:
The date on that ROM is this past Monday. Is he uploading to another site other than here? Or is he still working on things for the time being?
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I am no where near Joelz' spokesman but from the twitter messages i gather that : 1- no he has not released it yet, and he will not release it till 2 weeks post it being 100 % stable ( i am not sure when will that be )
2- no he is not working on any other sites, but if we keep harassing him , he will He is a part of team venom and teambamf. I periodically check both , but he usually releases on XDA in the same time he release on either one of those sites.

jmichaels1982 said:
I am no where near Joelz' spokesman but from the twitter messages i gather that : 1- no he has not released it yet, and he will not release it till 2 weeks post it being 100 % stable ( i am not sure when will that be )
2- no he is not working on any other sites, but if we keep harassing him , he will He is a part of team venom and teambamf. I periodically check both , but he usually releases on XDA in the same time he release on either one of those sites.
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Thanks for the info. I am completely out of the loop with regards to what he is up to now.
I used to test for him back in the day. I got excited about the possibility when I read what I did some time ago but got caught up in life and randomly thought about it today.
If you have any links to stay informed on things it would be appreciated.

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Lol. In b4 the lock. He took the phone and never did any developing for it. He should be banned from here
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For one: didn't mean to thank your post. Two: people like you need banned for your twelve-year old mentality of "lololol he sucks.". Because it has taken him awhile (ever heard of real life issues? Matter more than developing) he should be banned? He did amazing work on the Rez and i will gladly stand behind him. I'll laugh when he drops the first 4.2 ROM
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For one: didn't mean to thank your post. Two: people like you need banned for your twelve-year old mentality of "lololol he sucks.". Because it has taken him awhile (ever heard of real life issues? Matter more than developing) he should be banned? He did amazing work on the Rez and i will gladly stand behind him. I'll laugh when he drops the first 4.2 ROM
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His viperrez was and still is jaw dropping experience on the rezzy
I think he mentioned he is very busy with school and projects , which every educated and reasonable person can understand.
and dont be all upset about the guy knocking him , Joelz and Scott are both devs that dont give a crap about what users think, they drop roms and their dedication is is evident regardless of what people say.
here is my thing with the whole device donations issue, donate to the developer only if u like him , whether he produces or not. Other wise dont donate. When i donated to protek for him to have a rezzy , i didn't care for his production , i just wanted ot thank the dude for what he did on the tbolt and used the opportunity to donate .
WHat I expect from the developer : respect ! is all , dont hate the community for one or few man's action , we will always have babies around tht cry and moan about every thing .
Joelz fit that category very well. he didnt get riled up when ppl accused him of just " stealing " the phone lol , which was donated to him.
Anyway, i think i am going to report my own post and to try to get this thread closed , not sure if we need another Joelz flaming thread.

No we don't. Once he releases his ROM, you should be able to find in the Development section.
Thanks to all.
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Clearing the air...

Now im a big fan of Edgehood and his roms and i just want to say on my behalf that if anyone is talkn s#*t because he didnt come out with Envy(one of his roms) then get smacked! Edgehood is a great dev and stuff happens in life! His phone broke, he has a family and a girlfriend and hes a student...another words he HAS A LIFE! Obviously those hating on Edgehood dont have a life because all they do is hate...from what i know he is coming out with a new rom and i already know its gonna be the shiznit and i can already bet that those hating and tlkn s#*t will be downloading his new rom under the table and loving it because your punks like that. Enough said. Thanks to all devs that put their own time and effort into creating awesome roms for us to have! Stay Avid!
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Now im a big fan of Edgehood and his roms and i just want to say on my behalf that if anyone is talkn s#*t because he didnt come out with Envy(one of his roms) then get smacked! Edgehood is a great dev and stuff happens in life! His phone broke, he has a family and a girlfriend and hes a student...another words he HAS A LIFE! Obviously those hating on Edgehood dont have a life because all they do is hate...from what i know he is coming out with a new rom and i already know its gonna be the shiznit and i can already bet that those hating and tlkn s#*t will be downloading his new rom under the table and loving it because your punks like that. Enough said. Thanks to all devs that put their own time and effort into creating awesome roms for us to have! Stay Avid!
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well put, that's the best part, they troll and hate, but then still use the work!
it's hilarious

Opinions and users passion of work/product/developers are nice, but they are not part of actual development and/or furthering of said development.
This thread being created is also not in accordance with XDA posting rules. Therefore, it is closed.