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So I come back from my very first day off from work in two weeks and find my thread closed? What gives?
I'm sorry, I do have a life outside of XDA. FYI, I'm an adult with a mortgage, two car payments, a wife, a 15 month old daughter, and a live-in mother-in-law. I've worked everyday for the past two weeks and because you guys haven't had any updates you close my thread?
I was planning on releasing the update I've been working on during the nights when I haven't come home and just passed out, which HAS the working power menu and battery mods not to mention testing throughout the past 3 days to make sure there were no bugs, but you know what, I think I'll just sit on it.
Thanks for nothing, maybe I'll see you over in the G2x forums in a month or so.
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So I come back from my very first day off from work in two weeks and find my thread closed? What gives?
I'm sorry, I do have a life outside of XDA. FYI, I'm an adult with a mortgage, two car payments, a wife, a 15 month old daughter, and a live-in mother-in-law. I've worked everyday for the past two weeks and because you guys haven't had any updates you close my thread?
I was planning on releasing the update I've been working on during the nights when I haven't come home and just passed out, which HAS the working power menu and battery mods not to mention testing throughout the past 3 days to make sure there were no bugs, but you know what, I think I'll just sit on it.
Thanks for nothing, maybe I'll see you over in the G2x forums in a month or so.
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wow... really? so does that mean a mod just randomly closed it? lol. i sent one of my GS4Gs to Krylon360 today. UPS tracking # is 1Z0209FW0303104104. so keep going on this phone man... it's a great phone. just needs some dev love.
I thought that was a bit strange to of locked it as well, especially since there was no mob posting at the end explaining why it was locked. Maybe it was a mistake? Don't hold out on use because of a mistake, we love your work! I understand life gets stressful outside of xda, heck I figured you were close to releasing something new anyways based on the your steady flow of updates.
I hope to see your thread reopened and to continue seeing you around here until the 20th or so when you move on I'll probably follow in stride with you there too, but I got to get these 2 phones taken care of first unfortunately.
Damn shadowman....give em hell. I personally would like to thank you for your work. I hope you change your mind. Either way thanks.
hit up Mr. Clown to see why it was closed. I've been busy job hunting so haven't been keeping up on stuff.
I hope you reconsider not posting here too, Shadowman. No one here knows who closed your post or why they did. Obviously some mod screwed up. But please don't hold that against the entire community.
Your rom is excellent work and many of us are grateful for all of your efforts to jump start sgs4g development. So thank you! And yes--for what it's worth--I'm sure most of us are very patient here. I for one have life and job issues too--so I completely understand time away...
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TheShadowMan said:
So I come back from my very first day off from work in two weeks and find my thread closed? What gives?
I'm sorry, I do have a life outside of XDA. FYI, I'm an adult with a mortgage, two car payments, a wife, a 15 month old daughter, and a live-in mother-in-law. I've worked everyday for the past two weeks and because you guys haven't had any updates you close my thread?
I was planning on releasing the update I've been working on during the nights when I haven't come home and just passed out, which HAS the working power menu and battery mods not to mention testing throughout the past 3 days to make sure there were no bugs, but you know what, I think I'll just sit on it.
Thanks for nothing, maybe I'll see you over in the G2x forums in a month or so.
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yeah man! I was wondering why the thread was close! considering this is the only custom rom we have! I've been doing support while you were gone and the next thing I know it was closed! this is a bummer!
I'm sure it was a mistake, I don't think they would close a thread for that reason? please don't give up on us, this is the only rom we have...
Sounds like we have mods trying to sabotage this phone too? what the heck man..
It's gotta be a mistake man, some mod just got confused or slipped up. There's no reason that thread should be locked. Take a deep breath, check back in a few hours, I'm sure it'll get cleared up.
Hey shadow.
Good to see it wasn't just you leaving. We all obviously appreciate what you do. I thought it was strange that the thread just closed. I am sure if you pm Mr.clown he will open it up. He was in here closing a few other threads that deserved to be closed. I bet yours was by accident.
Anyways, glad to see your still around.
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wow... really? so does that mean a mod just randomly closed it? lol. i sent one of my GS4Gs to Krylon360 today. UPS tracking # is 1Z0209FW0303104104. so keep going on this phone man... it's a great phone. just needs some dev love.
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Thank you sooooo very much.
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Sounds like we have mods trying to sabotage this phone too? what the heck man..
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This is not the issue. It was a mistake.
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I hope Shadow reconsiders. I think it was a mistake on some Mod. I want to see how the New Rom is.
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I think I'll just sit on it.
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can i sit on your Rom with you? please...
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Someone needs to pm shadow I think it was a mod error
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Maybe we should all write to Mr. Clown to see what happened.
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Maybe we should all write to Mr. Clown to see what happened.
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We don't all need to. But I think one person should.
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OH NOOOO! Why did they close the tread I mean we all have lives outside XDA ! we need shadow back and find out why they closed the tread it has had to be a mistake
its back open. hopefully shadowman can bring his new rom to the thread
i was just curious if krylon has made any progress with CWM for the SGS4G? the last i read was that is was working on getting it to flash from the SD. i check his twitter a couple of times a day, but i haven't seen much, and i know he has to return the phone in the next couple of days.
thanks
He will post when its ready. For now we wait patiently while the master works ;-)
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i was just curious if krylon has made any progress with CWM for the SGS4G? the last i read was that is was working on getting it to flash from the SD. i check his twitter a couple of times a day, but i haven't seen much, and i know he has to return the phone in the next couple of days.
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I assume that twitter is your best bet for updates.
I just got a reply on Twitter from Krylon. he will try to get the CWM fix by the weekend. our good friend started his new job this week..
Just a friendly remember of the forum rules... don't ask devs for a time frame. All this work is done freelance and for free, so make sure you donate to show your support
Wait so is this the new "be patient" thread that was closed?
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I just got a reply on Twitter from Krylon. he will try to get the CWM fix by the weekend. our good friend started his new job this week..
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Yes, congrats krylon on the new job although youve been getting paid to stay home. \m/
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Wait so is this the new "be patient" thread that was closed?
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Yeah why did you start a new thread on the same subject that was closed by a mod.
You already check his Twitter account and he updates that before he updates here so just keep an eye on his Twitter.
The was such an un-nesseary wayste of energy, that I got excited over for nothing.
Can this please be deleted. Krylon has been very willing to communicate on twitter.
Asking about the progress of work is NOT the same as asking for an ETA. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK... take a chill pill people...
and the "be patient" thread was also not the same as this topic... the "be patient" thread was posted by an individual saying that he had made plans to send his device so that krylon could start to work on it.
please people you need to stop scaring people off at every corner of this forum... its not constructive at all.
to the OP... the most current info does in fact get tweeted by krylon @krylon360. as far as it looks it should be working by this weekend according to his latest tweets, so I would say the progress is in its later stages.
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Asking about the progress of work is NOT the same as asking for an ETA. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK... take a chill pill people...
and the "be patient" thread was also not the same as this topic... the "be patient" thread was posted by an individual saying that he had made plans to send his device so that krylon could start to work on it.
please people you need to stop scaring people off at every corner of this forum... its not constructive at all.
to the OP... the most current info does in fact get tweeted by krylon @krylon360. as far as it looks it should be working by this weekend according to his latest tweets, so I would say the progress is in its later stages.
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Even though this topic isn't Titled the same. It's essentially doing the same thing. Which is to find out the progress or status of CWM. The OP already stated that he checks Krylon's Twitter daily if not more. Krylon said he won't be able to work on it till this weekend since he started a new job and all. Hopefully he'll be able to get the ROM to flash over with it. No promises are made of course and I'm not asking him to rush at all.
I know he'll be getting his G2X very soon but I hope that doesn't hinder the progress of CWM getting fixed.
wow. i didn't want this thread to get carried away like the other one. i just assumed other people on the boards talk to him outside of this forum. i dont have a twitter, but i have been viewing his twitter page to see whats up. i haven't seen much on there for the last couple of days, so i was just seeing if anybody new anything besides what we can find on the forum. i'm not asking for an ETA, I understand that theses devs do this for free / fun. i was just curious to what road blocks he might have been hitting. hell, i don't even have a sgs4g, my brother does. i've just been keeping an eye on the situation so i can crack his phone open for him once it's here, and welcome him to the world of custom rom goodness. i didn't mean any harm with the thread. if it deserves to be closed, then so be it.
anyhow, congrats to krylon for the new job, hope it works out for you. i didn't mean any disrespect / rudeness with this thread.
I don't feel that this was a malicious thread and definitely not demanding.
People are just curious, thats all, and some people just can't hold it any longer before they create a thread. I know the thought crossed my mind a few times, but he is all we have, I can't keep asking, we are all at his mercy, so grab some popcorn and find something else to occupy your time to take your mind off of this. The more you want it, the longer you feel you are waiting for it.
/wordtothewise
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I don't feel that this was a malicious thread and definitely not demanding.
People are just curious, thats all, and some people just can't hold it any longer before they create a thread. I know the thought crossed my mind a few times, but he is all we have, I can't keep asking, we are all at his mercy, so grab some popcorn and find something else to occupy your time to take your mind off of this. The more you want it, the longer you feel you are waiting for it.
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agreed. good solid thread, though shouldnt b in dev section. im starting to get sick of everyone being a asshole around here like they got something to prove. i f u dont have something beneficial to post then just keep it moving
Well you know what today is 420 a day that has a lot of things to celebrate like national pot day or Hitler's birthday ... lol ... or the release of the G2x. With that said krylon maybe moved on to that dual core goodness but hinder by a bad screen ...
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relax guys. all this constant flaming is the reason why devs leave. i understand that its "fun" to **** on someone's posts or whatever, but i don't wanna see this forum turn into what the vibrant forum has become. just take it easy, enjoy the holiday, and spread some android love
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Well you know what today is 420 a day that has a lot of things to celebrate like national pot day or Hitler's birthday ... lol ... or the release of the G2x. With that said krylon maybe moved on to that dual core goodness but hinder by a bad screen ...
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Discussion about the g2x is the reason why the last topic was closed.
If people want a thread where they can vent out their anxiety for CWM,i suggest not going offtopic into discussions about other phones and the like.
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I was not the only one that mentioned the G2x... Plus I was just joking and mentioning thing that are related to today 04/20/2011... so to come down on me I see that as of topic
PS krylon himself on twitter said he was going to get the G2x...
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G2X has CWM already. WOW. Gotta be patient!
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The was such an un-nesseary wayste of energy, that I got excited over for nothing.
Can this please be deleted. Krylon has been very willing to communicate on twitter.
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I want to publicaly apologize for throwing the flames. I think we are all a little over anxious and would probably agree that this has been a little interesting to say the least. Krylon is Awesome, but I just wonder where everyone else is at. I have never seen a phone go this long mind you it's only my fourth rootable. But none the less sorry about going off
Ok guys So you own a SGS4g now what? Well lets just air out a few thing that get Devs absolutely fired up.
1) Requesting ROM features.
2) Ordering them to do something.
3) Repeatedly asking the same question.
4) Demanding
5) Complaining
6) Asking for a ETA on Alphas
7) Harassing
8) Threatening
I could keep going on about what makes them mad but there is already a thread about that. This thread is to Distract Noobs away from bugging the Devs by discussing ROMS with each other and answering each others questions that would normally bug Devs. Yes Devs are welcome here, but mainly this is thread to prevent Noobs from pestering the Devs about things that can be answered by other Noobs (or Google). Noobs feel free to ask, discuss, and converse away. Just remember flaming is bad so just don't do it. If you honestly don't understand the difference between positive criticism and negative then just don't criticise anyone. Better yet lets keep negativity to ourselves.
Lets get a few Questions out of the way.
Q) Does the SGS4g have an ICS ROM yet.
A) Yes There are several
Q) Who's fault is it if I brick my SGS4g?
A) YOURS, Obviously you failed to follow instructions.
Q) What's the difference between a soft brick and a hard brick.
A) One is ceramic and one is foam!! JK
DEFINITIONS you need know as a NOOB
NOOB A person only intent in serving on their own self interest.
Newb Person new to XDA
Member A person who has joined XDA
Dev Developer
RD recognised developer
MOD Modification/Moderator
ROM Read only memory
WIP work in progress
CWM Clock work mod recovery
Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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True Enough LOL, Now only if people would use this thread. There Is something disturbing about a forum By noobs for noobs and first comment is from a DEV Oh well we will see if it works.
Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Fare Enough Lol.
Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Port. I wouldn't hold my breathe for Samsung to release it.
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Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Of course it will be a port dude ^^ and be patient and enjoy GB roms as I know team acid and kickass are doing perfect jobs on more even bigger things for us <3
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasnt none of them would have agreed to it.
Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
FBis251 said:
Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Nice catch FB.
(off topic) I've been on IRC on and off all week and haven't found you FB lol.
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Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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I was going to say, it's kind of funny a guy starting a thread for "noobs" and he can't even spell discussion. Lol.
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There you go thanks. I tend to be a little sleep deprived when I can get a chance to steal the computer away from the kids.
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eollie said:
Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasn't none of them would have agreed to it.
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True but it's all about sales, if they feel that upgrading your phone will prevent you from buying the competitor, especially if the competitor releases a phone that is cheaper then their current market topper. It only makes perfect business sense if you can't sell them something new, prevent them from buying from someone else. If you have noticed that's why updates tend to always be released/leaked around the same time as a new competitors phone is released.
I would like to apologize to Lumin and fb I made and guide that was based off incorrect info, they stuck by there guns in correcting me. I was wrong as happens sometimes. The guide should be removed soon.
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No need to apologize. Just glad you finally listened
I am not about to let someone brick their phone. Just because I was stubborn.
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For those now on ICS
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It is an ICS themed blue XDA Developers APK Developed by Whiskey103.
It is the free version but if you are OCD and love colors to match then here you go.
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Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1863900
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Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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Yeah they have stopped =( hate to see it stop it was such a great rom!!!
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Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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Yea, development has stopped. In twitter it was announced.
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oh man...and I just got my One S two days ago!
saprydion said:
oh man...and I just got my One S two days ago!
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Check out ViperOneS.
Great ROM.
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Check out ViperOneS.
Great ROM.
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Running Viper Rom now. Quite good.
But with Axiom gone, it seems like Viper Rom is the only game in town....for me at least, because I like de-Sensed ROMs
Thanks!
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Yea, development has stopped. In twitter it was announced.
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Ok, why?
This was the last working T-Mobile ROM, it seems. Viper doesn't have WiFi calling, I am not sure if anything does. Why the heck did they close the thread and take down all download links?
Too many people complaining, there were also some bugs but I think over time axiom could have evolved into something better, its not the end though, energy ROM is still going and that is just as good
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Too many people complaining, there were also some bugs but I think over time axiom could have evolved into something better, its not the end though, energy ROM is still going and that is just as good
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I'm not going to comment further on this other than to say this guy is incorrect and certainly is in no position to speak for the team.
Energy rom is very nice, if you guys need wifi calling.
And nothing huge was wrong with the last version of axiom, the sense version anyways.
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Aww. That sucks. I love de-sensed ROMs that keep the Sense camera. Can we at least have a download link for the latest Sense-less ROM? Or someone can PM it to me, thats ok
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I'm not going to comment further on this other than to say this guy is incorrect and certainly is in no position to speak for the team.
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Well, you are in a position to speak for the team. Do you think leaving one's users hanging without any warning or explanation is something a developer should ever do? I know from own experience that ROM development is hard work, and you were doing it for free. However, your ROM had a following, people were mostly very happy, you promised some future. Than out of the blue - boom! No more Axiom S! Gone! No explanation, no warning, no clarification - nothing! Closed the thread, turned off the lights, went home.
I see Mike is already hacking SGIII. That's cool, but you don't just stick a finger at your users, and go find another set of users. At the very least you owe them an explanation where you are going and why.
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Well, you are in a position to speak for the team. Do you think leaving one's users hanging without any warning or explanation is something a developer should ever do? I know from own experience that ROM development is hard work, and you were doing it for free. However, your ROM had a following, people were mostly very happy, you promised some future. Than out of the blue - boom! No more Axiom S! Gone! No explanation, no warning, no clarification - nothing! Closed the thread, turned off the lights, went home.
I see Mike is already hacking SGIII. That's cool, but you don't just stick a finger at your users, and go find another set of users. At the very least you owe them an explanation where you are going and why.
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Last time I checked we didn't charge for our work and so we owe you nothing.
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Not speaking for anyone...but the Axiom team did post on Twitter that they were ceasing development due to hate mail...probably what he meant when he referred to complaining.
"Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it"-Axiom website/Twitter
I Am? I didn't know I was hacking the SGS3. Lol
Here's the thing...Axiom ROMs was never.....ever in my plans. Honestly how it started was Zylith and Zydroid. Zylith got busy so I picked up the slack and did more. Keep in mind I was doing this because this is what I wanted in a ROM and just happened to share it with the community, because it was Zylith's to begin with.
Personally, I got tired of the lack of support for HTC phones as of late. I originally was going to get a SGS3 over the One S, but decided not to wait for its release. Now I'm where I wanted to be originally. I'm sorry if you feel like I turned my back....AXSuite was open-sourced.....all that was needed now was a stock 1.84 base and those tweaks to be dropped right in...and BOOM, Axiom ROM again.
Things are rather busy in my life right now.....How? Well....I'm married for one.....got a kid on the way for two, getting into real estate for three, and Apple just did a product release which me, being a Tech Support Advisor for them....have to work much more hours.....which is already cutting away the time i had before.
Don't lash out at the rest of the team because of the unhappiness or disappointment you've experienced with production of a ROM ceased. Everyone has a brain and can learn this stuff people! You depend so much on people like us to do the work, why not learn it instead of getting pissed off because we choose personal lives over Android?
Last I checked....no one pays my bills, no even paid to use Axiom ROMs.....so we're not obligated to discussing anything really.
Don't mean to sound like a asshole, but I'm the only one who gives a damn about my personal life, no one else in here does. I gotta llok out for my best interest....so it is what it is. As for me doing work on the SGS3....not gonna happen. I won't be doing any ROMs for it, I'm much to busy to maintain a public release!
Stop with the PMs, stop with the frustration. AXSuite is open-sourced and for public use. Learn how to make a ROM and get it running. The whole reason we open-sourced it in the first place was to inspire others that want to learn how to do it, to actually do it!
Hate me or love me guys, I had to say what I needed to say. Not trying to be no douche or inconsiderate....I felt you guys deserved at least a reason as to why things happened the way they have....Nothing personal against anyone....but I gotta look out for me and my family and thats time that I can't spend on Android for now....
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tgtoys said:
Not speaking for anyone...but the Axiom team did post on Twitter that they were ceasing development due to hate mail...probably what he meant when he referred to complaining.
"Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it"-Axiom website/Twitter
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Thanks for clarifying that....
Some of the team members lost interest because of how things started to turn out... People calling us kangs of Venom tweaks etc etc....you know the ordeal. We decided it's not fun anymore, not worth it either. We did it for free....asked for nothing in return. Seeing you all happy was enough for us. But the hate mail along with what's stated above....just killed the motivation....
Don't hate us for it, look at the users of other One S ROMs....not saying names....they're the ones who discouraged us. Imagine catching BS from people you don't know for you contributing something you expect nothing in return from....we're all human...
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I Am? I didn't know I was hacking the SGS3. Lol
Here's the thing...Axiom ROMs was never.....ever in my plans. Honestly how it started was Zylith and Zydroid. Zylith got busy so I picked up the slack and did more. Keep in mind I was doing this because this is what I wanted in a ROM and just happened to share it with the community, because it was Zylith's to begin with.
Personally, I got tired of the lack of support for HTC phones as of late. I originally was going to get a SGS3 over the One S, but decided not to wait for its release. Now I'm where I wanted to be originally. I'm sorry if you feel like I turned my back....AXSuite was open-sourced.....all that was needed now was a stock 1.84 base and those tweaks to be dropped right in...and BOOM, Axiom ROM again.
Things are rather busy in my life right now.....How? Well....I'm married for one.....got a kid on the way for two, getting into real estate for three, and Apple just did a product release which me, being a Tech Support Advisor for them....have to work much more hours.....which is already cutting away the time i had before.
Don't lash out at the rest of the team because of the unhappiness or disappointment you've experienced with production of a ROM ceased. Everyone has a brain and can learn this stuff people! You depend so much on people like us to do the work, why not learn it instead of getting pissed off because we choose personal lives over Android?
Last I checked....no one pays my bills, no even paid to use Axiom ROMs.....so we're not obligated to discussing anything really.
Don't mean to sound like a asshole, but I'm the only one who gives a damn about my personal life, no one else in here does. I gotta llok out for my best interest....so it is what it is. As for me doing work on the SGS3....not gonna happen. I won't be doing any ROMs for it, I'm much to busy to maintain a public release!
Stop with the PMs, stop with the frustration. AXSuite is open-sourced and for public use. Learn how to make a ROM and get it running. The whole reason we open-sourced it in the first place was to inspire others that want to learn how to do it, to actually do it!
Hate me or love me guys, I had to say what I needed to say. Not trying to be no douche or inconsiderate....I felt you guys deserved at least a reason as to why things happened the way they have....Nothing personal against anyone....but I gotta look out for me and my family and thats time that I can't spend on Android for now....
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By all means man, family comes first. Thank you (and your team) for the hard work that you put into the rom. It is very much appreciated. I myself would love to get to a level where I could develop, rather for myself or public, but between work, kids, and life, it would never happen, thank you for using the little free time you have to help us. The fact that you put as much time and dedication into the work you did is truly a source of charity for everyone who used your roms, or any of the information you provided. I'm sorry that you had to deal with hate mail and complainers. Too many people out there feel they are 'owed' something, and don't get the fact that what you do is out of kindness and hobby, and not something that you are obligated to do.
Take care, congrats on the upcoming baby, and good luck.
...oh, and sorry about all the hate mail you're going to get at work for the lack luster iPhone 5
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Not speaking for anyone...but the Axiom team did post on Twitter that they were ceasing development due to hate mail...probably what he meant when he referred to complaining.
"Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it"-Axiom website/Twitter
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Here are the key parts being over looked, highlighted in bold: Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it". By the way I don't need anyone to remind me what I WROTE on Twitter. And one last thing the hate mail wasn't from our users!
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By all means man, family comes first. Thank you (and your team) for the hard work that you put into the rom. It is very much appreciated. I myself would love to get to a level where I could develop, rather for myself or public, but between work, kids, and life, it would never happen, thank you for using the little free time you have to help us. The fact that you put as much time and dedication into the work you did is truly a source of charity for everyone who used your roms, or any of the information you provided. I'm sorry that you had to deal with hate mail and complainers. Too many people out there feel they are 'owed' something, and don't get the fact that what you do is out of kindness and hobby, and not something that you are obligated to do.
Take care, congrats on the upcoming baby, and good luck.
...oh, and sorry about all the hate mail you're going to get at work for the lack luster iPhone 5
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I can't even begin to think how disappointed some iPhone users are.....nothing drastic has changed....innovation is dead! PLUS Samsung and HTC are gonna sue for LTE patent infringements lol....i may need to look for another job lol j/k
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I can't even begin to think how disappointed some iPhone users are.....nothing drastic has changed....innovation is dead! PLUS Samsung and HTC are gonna sue for LTE patent infringements lol....i may need to look for another job lol j/k
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Haha...wish Google had a patent on Chrome-to-Phone/Chrome sync...iCloud Tabs..really? Who came up with that one
Seriously guys, no offence but we have to stop putting up all these bounty threads. Bounties are only meant for things that no one has access to or kept in secret or something that is extremely complex or involves a vast amount of steps to create. Bounties are not for stuff like creating a ROM or modding something. If you need that, just place a simple request thread tagged with [REQ], since there are many developers out there already that can already create it for you. Please respect what bounties mean for this community or eventually the most important bounties will get lost in all the mess. Not looking to offend, but there were already several comments about this so consider this just a friendly PSA and reminder.
Agreed, im sick of the bounty threads. I vote we have a bounty for no more bounty threads and sticky it.
People just think that cause we don't have a Rom or feature that it is because developers didn't get money. When in fact they just don't have the device....
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Thinking of making a bounty thread for a mod to stop allowing bounty threads lol
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mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
HHF2 said:
DID NOT mean to thank you. Joel will put out an awesome ROM and you will be glad that you did! He will not release something unless it is perfect, no alpha or betas with bugs in them.
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Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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blestsol said:
Dem da breaks. He did say he was working on a bunch of bugs though.
Dunno about that though. Coming from the Rez.
But I agree with the OP, people are basically trying to hire devs now lol.
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I have a prediction that just like the fascinate, we had a very rough start, than once things go more popular things started getting ported. I remember when ICS was first really released, it was CNA, Gummy android, and AOKP, all were ports from the Nexus S I believe.
mikeew83 said:
Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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xXJay_RXx said:
While I do agree with you but I don't agree with the "if he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well!". People who donated did it so they could have the ROM on the phone. If I donated n he never released the rom, I'd be pretty upset because thats the when reason the donation thread was made. It was made to bring his ROM to the S3 not just so he could have a free phone. But bamf was never known to pump out that many releases. They usually only releases stuff every once in a while since they aren't really buggy. I'm just surprised its taking this long. But then again I know nothing about ROM making
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
BAMF has a build made. They don't release BETA's... They put out solid, daily drivers.. Trust me, it's worth the wait.
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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He kinda does owe his donators something. He was given the money to do a certain job per say. I think this guy probably just isn't familiar with how bamf/joelz works and sees everyone else pumping out release after release and thought joelz would do the same instead of pushing a quality release. Prime example is eclipse, that bounty was started and achieved well after joelz's and the release has been out for a week or more, granted half the stuff didnt/doesnt work at first tho.
All I'm sayin is I can see both sides of the coin, for someone who doesn't know joelz's work/habits and sees all the other ROMs being released one after another it's understandable to have thought he would have released one by now. Also it's understandable that he's taking his time and releasing something that is going to work 99.9% right off the bat instead of having umptine issues with it.
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Cant argue that... No doubt it would be pretty shady on joelz part if he didnt release a rom for the s3. Part of the reason to my previous post is that I most likely will be moving on to the note2. So there is a good chance that I wont get to use his rom even tho I donted to him.
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xXJay_RXx said:
I feel you. I probably won't get to try it neither since I too will move to the Note 2 on release day. I used Joelz ROM on the Rezound n it was a great ROM
See you in the Note 2 forums in the future lol
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That's your own guys' faults for not stickin with the s3 lol.
droidstyle said:
Dude just because you donated does not mean joelz owes you a ****in thing! I donated to joelz and have never used his work before. If he does indeed release bamf great, if not oh well! I just like to support recognized devs to show appreciation.
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I must disagree with this statement as well. While most people donate once they try a rom they should not expect anything more once they donated for this.
I think when purchasing a device for someone is a different story. You are accepting the device as something you will develop on. The device is not being purchased to say thank you for your prior work. You have an unwritten obligation that you will develop something if you are going to accept the device. If you will not or cannot produce something you should be willing to send it to someone that will for the good of the community.
I know Joel has done some great stuff in the past and do not think he is trying to get over on anyone. I do believe he will produce something. It might leave a bad taste in some people's mouths though. Although once he releases a rom everyone seems to forget the past anyway. Lol
Bottom line is the only people who really have the right to complain are the people that donated for the device. All others can just watch and learn and it might help you in deciding what to do in the future.
Kind of reminds me of punk.kaos with the fascinate. Did he actually help out behind the scenes or what? Never saw anything pit out by him except a half working froyo and a leaked version.
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Agree I regret donating to joelz has had phone for over 2 months going on and nothing bit ridiculous
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It is how he was on the rezound. He released ROMs extremely slowly, they had terrible bugs, and then he'd just say he was working on it.
I hate saying it, but I have been watching and waiting, and hell say he almost has it done, then issues come up, and you wait again.
I liked his pokemon rom on the rezound, but for me audio never worked right, and he knew it was an issue, and it was near three months before it was maybe fixed even tho he said he found the issue and fixed it two days after release, he just never actually released the fix. I had the S3 by the time he released another ROM.
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Quit bashing Joelz. He is working on Paradigm. The bamf team won't let him release any builds publicly until the rom is running extremely well. He spends a huge percentage of his free time making these roms. If you think you can release the rom faster, go ahead and try yourself. FFS CM10 and AOKP JB still have a decent amount of bugs and there are teams of people working on them.
You can ask werdna and con i have been working on it you can also ask Doug Piston and Shane and reid and really the whole BAMF Team.....I honestly am all cool about releasing Beta's if its my rom however its the team rom and also why release 100 betas if they suck as i get older i realize that it's better to release one stable rom then 100 unstable ones its a lesson i've learned over the past 2 years in android. Anyways that's all i have to say, it'll be released when I believe it is ready to be released. And the reason it takes me long is because i can't spend my whole day on my computer I have extreme amounts of homework, i know some will say why not just work on it after homework, well by the time im done with my homework its around 2am.......if i worked on it everyday i would get no sleep and my grades would go to crap...That's all I really have to say. I do appreciate you guys donating the device to me really, and I will release the rom but when it's ready, thanks to all those who understand..By the way im in high school....soooooooooooo if i let my grades go to crap then I wouldn't get into a good college etc etc etc...i already let my grades go to crap in 9th and 10th grade etc etc because of android........so im doing things right this time....Anyways 4.1.2 delayed release since we are trying to merge it into our d2-common branch...also theres a battery issue an issue in mobile data settings and again Teams of people working on cm10 and aokp...while im really the only one working on this device for Paradigm..
I hate bounty threads! Agreed. They're popping up like a virus.
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