Ok guys So you own a SGS4g now what? Well lets just air out a few thing that get Devs absolutely fired up.
1) Requesting ROM features.
2) Ordering them to do something.
3) Repeatedly asking the same question.
4) Demanding
5) Complaining
6) Asking for a ETA on Alphas
7) Harassing
8) Threatening
I could keep going on about what makes them mad but there is already a thread about that. This thread is to Distract Noobs away from bugging the Devs by discussing ROMS with each other and answering each others questions that would normally bug Devs. Yes Devs are welcome here, but mainly this is thread to prevent Noobs from pestering the Devs about things that can be answered by other Noobs (or Google). Noobs feel free to ask, discuss, and converse away. Just remember flaming is bad so just don't do it. If you honestly don't understand the difference between positive criticism and negative then just don't criticise anyone. Better yet lets keep negativity to ourselves.
Lets get a few Questions out of the way.
Q) Does the SGS4g have an ICS ROM yet.
A) Yes There are several
Q) Who's fault is it if I brick my SGS4g?
A) YOURS, Obviously you failed to follow instructions.
Q) What's the difference between a soft brick and a hard brick.
A) One is ceramic and one is foam!! JK
DEFINITIONS you need know as a NOOB
NOOB A person only intent in serving on their own self interest.
Newb Person new to XDA
Member A person who has joined XDA
Dev Developer
RD recognised developer
MOD Modification/Moderator
ROM Read only memory
WIP work in progress
CWM Clock work mod recovery
Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
erikmm said:
Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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True Enough LOL, Now only if people would use this thread. There Is something disturbing about a forum By noobs for noobs and first comment is from a DEV Oh well we will see if it works.
Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Fare Enough Lol.
Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Port. I wouldn't hold my breathe for Samsung to release it.
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Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Of course it will be a port dude ^^ and be patient and enjoy GB roms as I know team acid and kickass are doing perfect jobs on more even bigger things for us <3
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasnt none of them would have agreed to it.
Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Nice catch FB.
(off topic) I've been on IRC on and off all week and haven't found you FB lol.
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Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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I was going to say, it's kind of funny a guy starting a thread for "noobs" and he can't even spell discussion. Lol.
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There you go thanks. I tend to be a little sleep deprived when I can get a chance to steal the computer away from the kids.
ICS OTA Update
eollie said:
Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasn't none of them would have agreed to it.
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True but it's all about sales, if they feel that upgrading your phone will prevent you from buying the competitor, especially if the competitor releases a phone that is cheaper then their current market topper. It only makes perfect business sense if you can't sell them something new, prevent them from buying from someone else. If you have noticed that's why updates tend to always be released/leaked around the same time as a new competitors phone is released.
I would like to apologize to Lumin and fb I made and guide that was based off incorrect info, they stuck by there guns in correcting me. I was wrong as happens sometimes. The guide should be removed soon.
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No need to apologize. Just glad you finally listened
I am not about to let someone brick their phone. Just because I was stubborn.
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For those now on ICS
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It is an ICS themed blue XDA Developers APK Developed by Whiskey103.
It is the free version but if you are OCD and love colors to match then here you go.
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Really? I thought xda was for development, not ranting.
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Not recently.
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
Really? I thought xda was for development, not ranting.
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have you developed anything for phones to even talk?
(sorry if you have but i dont know you i helped theme/port roms from captivate to VIBRANTS)
your RAVING this phone is that good... (your opinion everyone is entitled to one)
but isnt RANTING/RAVING generally the same idea... (good thoughts or bad)
and dont get me started on "development" on the SGS4G
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have you developed anything for phones to even talk?
(sorry if you have but i dont know you i helped theme/port roms from captivate to VIBRANTS)
your RAVING this phone is that good... (your opinion everyone is entitled to one)
but isnt RANTING/RAVING generally the same idea... (good thoughts or bad)
and dont get me started on "development" on the SGS4G
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It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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I'm with you on this. Tired of this too.
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+1for Bl4ckpheniX.
All these phones have their good points and bad points it's not some sort of contest. I for one like the sgs4g for a whole variety of reasons. If you don't like it I don't give a sh*t.
I'm here to make this phone better, contribute to others who like the sgs4g, and to learn what I can about development for it. Come on people--these are phones not sports teams. If you like a different one go find the forum for it and gtfo of this one.
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Bl4ckpheniX said:
It was sarcasm about it being the best phone ever. Obviously every time you buy anything its obsolete with in a matter of days. With that said, what is the point of complaining about it?
As for development, I am and have been working on a rom for this device. Along with a couple other people. The reason its on the hush is because I would rather wait to announced anything about it until its complete. I am not here to argue with anyone. I am here to make this a better phone for me and everyone here. But when I come here to the general section to help others having REAL issues. All I see is back and forth talk about a new device and how much they hate the sgs 4g. If you are unhappy sell it. If you want to rant about it. Start a blog. It just gets old, and I know I am not the only one that feels this way.
Anyways. That's all I have to say.
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so this thread was just too what? (please pick one)
A) grow your e-penis (post count)
B) be a hippocrate and make another useless thread
C) gather all the people that feel the same way and have a cyber circle jerk
D) all of the above
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so this thread was just too what? (please pick one)
A) grow your e-penis (post count)
B) be a hippocrate and make another useless thread
C) gather all the people that feel the same way and have a cyber circle jerk
D) all of the above
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E) Learn how to spell.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hippocrate
Look fella, this post was never directed at anyone in particular. So no need to make it personal.
I am really here to help people and this is a forum for development, not hey this phone blows, this phone is better. If you don't understand that you don't really understand XDA.
This wasn't to raise my post count, most all of my posts are to either help someone that is having an issue, testing for other dev's, or for dev work that i am currently working on.
Tweet from @supercurio!
"I'm porting Voodoo lagfix on T-Mobile #Vibrant #GalaxyS4G thanks to infos given by @Krylon360"
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i was just curious if krylon has made any progress with CWM for the SGS4G? the last i read was that is was working on getting it to flash from the SD. i check his twitter a couple of times a day, but i haven't seen much, and i know he has to return the phone in the next couple of days.
thanks
He will post when its ready. For now we wait patiently while the master works ;-)
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i was just curious if krylon has made any progress with CWM for the SGS4G? the last i read was that is was working on getting it to flash from the SD. i check his twitter a couple of times a day, but i haven't seen much, and i know he has to return the phone in the next couple of days.
thanks
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I assume that twitter is your best bet for updates.
I just got a reply on Twitter from Krylon. he will try to get the CWM fix by the weekend. our good friend started his new job this week..
Just a friendly remember of the forum rules... don't ask devs for a time frame. All this work is done freelance and for free, so make sure you donate to show your support
Wait so is this the new "be patient" thread that was closed?
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I just got a reply on Twitter from Krylon. he will try to get the CWM fix by the weekend. our good friend started his new job this week..
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Yes, congrats krylon on the new job although youve been getting paid to stay home. \m/
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Wait so is this the new "be patient" thread that was closed?
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Yeah why did you start a new thread on the same subject that was closed by a mod.
You already check his Twitter account and he updates that before he updates here so just keep an eye on his Twitter.
The was such an un-nesseary wayste of energy, that I got excited over for nothing.
Can this please be deleted. Krylon has been very willing to communicate on twitter.
Asking about the progress of work is NOT the same as asking for an ETA. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK... take a chill pill people...
and the "be patient" thread was also not the same as this topic... the "be patient" thread was posted by an individual saying that he had made plans to send his device so that krylon could start to work on it.
please people you need to stop scaring people off at every corner of this forum... its not constructive at all.
to the OP... the most current info does in fact get tweeted by krylon @krylon360. as far as it looks it should be working by this weekend according to his latest tweets, so I would say the progress is in its later stages.
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Asking about the progress of work is NOT the same as asking for an ETA. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK... take a chill pill people...
and the "be patient" thread was also not the same as this topic... the "be patient" thread was posted by an individual saying that he had made plans to send his device so that krylon could start to work on it.
please people you need to stop scaring people off at every corner of this forum... its not constructive at all.
to the OP... the most current info does in fact get tweeted by krylon @krylon360. as far as it looks it should be working by this weekend according to his latest tweets, so I would say the progress is in its later stages.
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Even though this topic isn't Titled the same. It's essentially doing the same thing. Which is to find out the progress or status of CWM. The OP already stated that he checks Krylon's Twitter daily if not more. Krylon said he won't be able to work on it till this weekend since he started a new job and all. Hopefully he'll be able to get the ROM to flash over with it. No promises are made of course and I'm not asking him to rush at all.
I know he'll be getting his G2X very soon but I hope that doesn't hinder the progress of CWM getting fixed.
wow. i didn't want this thread to get carried away like the other one. i just assumed other people on the boards talk to him outside of this forum. i dont have a twitter, but i have been viewing his twitter page to see whats up. i haven't seen much on there for the last couple of days, so i was just seeing if anybody new anything besides what we can find on the forum. i'm not asking for an ETA, I understand that theses devs do this for free / fun. i was just curious to what road blocks he might have been hitting. hell, i don't even have a sgs4g, my brother does. i've just been keeping an eye on the situation so i can crack his phone open for him once it's here, and welcome him to the world of custom rom goodness. i didn't mean any harm with the thread. if it deserves to be closed, then so be it.
anyhow, congrats to krylon for the new job, hope it works out for you. i didn't mean any disrespect / rudeness with this thread.
I don't feel that this was a malicious thread and definitely not demanding.
People are just curious, thats all, and some people just can't hold it any longer before they create a thread. I know the thought crossed my mind a few times, but he is all we have, I can't keep asking, we are all at his mercy, so grab some popcorn and find something else to occupy your time to take your mind off of this. The more you want it, the longer you feel you are waiting for it.
/wordtothewise
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I don't feel that this was a malicious thread and definitely not demanding.
People are just curious, thats all, and some people just can't hold it any longer before they create a thread. I know the thought crossed my mind a few times, but he is all we have, I can't keep asking, we are all at his mercy, so grab some popcorn and find something else to occupy your time to take your mind off of this. The more you want it, the longer you feel you are waiting for it.
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agreed. good solid thread, though shouldnt b in dev section. im starting to get sick of everyone being a asshole around here like they got something to prove. i f u dont have something beneficial to post then just keep it moving
Well you know what today is 420 a day that has a lot of things to celebrate like national pot day or Hitler's birthday ... lol ... or the release of the G2x. With that said krylon maybe moved on to that dual core goodness but hinder by a bad screen ...
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relax guys. all this constant flaming is the reason why devs leave. i understand that its "fun" to **** on someone's posts or whatever, but i don't wanna see this forum turn into what the vibrant forum has become. just take it easy, enjoy the holiday, and spread some android love
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Well you know what today is 420 a day that has a lot of things to celebrate like national pot day or Hitler's birthday ... lol ... or the release of the G2x. With that said krylon maybe moved on to that dual core goodness but hinder by a bad screen ...
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Discussion about the g2x is the reason why the last topic was closed.
If people want a thread where they can vent out their anxiety for CWM,i suggest not going offtopic into discussions about other phones and the like.
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I was not the only one that mentioned the G2x... Plus I was just joking and mentioning thing that are related to today 04/20/2011... so to come down on me I see that as of topic
PS krylon himself on twitter said he was going to get the G2x...
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G2X has CWM already. WOW. Gotta be patient!
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The was such an un-nesseary wayste of energy, that I got excited over for nothing.
Can this please be deleted. Krylon has been very willing to communicate on twitter.
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I want to publicaly apologize for throwing the flames. I think we are all a little over anxious and would probably agree that this has been a little interesting to say the least. Krylon is Awesome, but I just wonder where everyone else is at. I have never seen a phone go this long mind you it's only my fourth rootable. But none the less sorry about going off
Seriously, I go to GTG's thread hoping for updates or legitimate bug reports or fixes and all I see is the same few people *****ing back and fourth. Literally making me sick seeing all that crap. Maybe those kids can grow up soon and business can continue as normal.
Bare minimum, can you guys please take your *****ing to an off topic thread? Hell, use this one if you have to, but please don't make those of us who actually care about development endure any more of your drama? thanks
You guys are seriously doing a disservice to the devs and in my opinion being very disrespectful to GTG, trivializing his hard work with your banter.
Infused with gingerbread **** thanks GTG465X
I totally agree with you. Sadly, asking them to stop doesn't work, only seems to encourage them to troll more. I feel bad for gtg and the other devs.
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gtg now has to start a new thread. that post was specifically for the v2. he is doing the best he can to establish the gb rom. but people flood that post like nothing to it, thats not even a v2 thread anymore. its a troll thread
My opinion is all this wok for the infuse by these devs is on their own time. They do the best they can with what they have. People need to stop harassing them for eta's and improvements, especially when they state that they are working on it before the complaints start. Before you complain read the first post, it most likely tells all.
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This section will improve 10 fold when Bella and the rest of the crying gang leave for SII. I personally can't wait.
Agreed. There are only a few people in that thread that continued to argue just for the sake of arguing. Hopefully they leave soon.
Infuse, infused...running gingerbread
It's so awesome to see a group of people who feel the same exact way I do. I don't even post like I used to anymore because of those trolls.
Another case of the few spoiling it for the many!
Neo should have booted the offenders not the Developer thread!
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Corvette Dave said:
Neo should have booted the offenders not the Developer thread!
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x100000^9.
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x100000^9.
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Agree Dave. A couple of lamers (bella incl) should not cause a dev thread to be locked. Although gtg is off fixing an issue and chose to take down the link for a bit, there are still ppl that could benefit from healty rom related conversation. Bella and a couple of other bella fanclowns have already indicated they're chomping at the bit to go to the SGS2. Good thing I am not moderating... Lol. I would have already helped them along with a ban from the infuse forums.
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Another case of the few spoiling it for the many!
Neo should have booted the offenders not the Developer thread!
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If only I were a mod.... someone hand me the BANHAMMER!!! GRRR!!!! haha
Agreed. I browse other threads too just to gain more knowledge, and I have never seen such users. This kind of thing is embarrassing, honestly. Honestly, they all stopped after getting a warning from the mod, but one specific user started the whole mess again by calling out Bella. So thank you to that user for ruining it for everyone.
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I agree 100%
There was no way to learn anything anymore.
I do agree that Neo should have and still should suspend the privelages of the habitual offenders. There are people who legitamately have problems and would like to discuss them in a respectfull manner and interact on an intelligent level. My kids and myself included!
The few bad apples ruined it for all! I feel bad for gtg and the others that work with and support him. He worked hard to make a test rom and got slapped in the face again by the people that clutter his thread with useless garbage.
There has got to be a better way!
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I agree 100%
There was no way to learn anything anymore.
I do agree that Neo should have and still should suspend the privelages of the habitual offenders. There are people who legitamately have problems and would like to discuss them in a respectfull manner and interact on an intelligent level. My kids and myself included!
The few bad apples ruined it for all! I feel bad for gtg and the others that work with and support him. He worked hard to make a test rom and got slapped in the face again by the people that clutter his thread with useless garbage.
There has got to be a better way!
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I browse other threads too just to gain more knowledge, and I have never seen such users. This kind of thing is embarrassing, honestly.
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+1
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I really hope they all leave for the sgs2. Either that or at least that they end up getting banned from here. I can't believe how ungrateful they are for the work that gtg and others are doing. This kind of crap never happened in the captivate forums, so I hope it dies out quickly so the devs can get back to doing what they're best at. I know that if all of the trolling stops that they will be able to bring us greatness very soon. Neo...start swinging that banhammer! =]
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Do not know but I have a gut feeling that when some members who have problem with gtg's rom leave this sub-forum we will see many more roms apart from much better (coming) gtg's rom
My faith rests in Operation Iron Fist. Show us how it's done Neo. Pretty please.
If you want to see a more harmonious section then stop the mudslinging.
Creating a thread to say how 'awful' Bella is really isn't much better than Bella's complaining.
So now we have 2 threads *****ing about Bella and neither does anything to improve the rom/phone or even discuss the rom/phone.
Let's get 300 pages of 'yeah you suck' going because that will make things better? No, it won't, and let's not.
I don't agree with the way Bella handled himself but I don't see any good coming of the folks acting like kids as a response.
Just let these threads die so we can get back to normal and telling people "Read the first post" type stuff k?
OK for all you haters. http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra-resources
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Score!!!! F you LG we don't need you anymore.
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You should do a search before posting. That is not source for our device.
That's a start, can't help but knock people down. Yeah, I know it's O2x dumb ass.
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No, it's not O2X either, so knock off the attitude.
That is the development page for the reference Tegra 250 kit, and it's been around for a long time.
The O2X/G2X use the Tegra 250 AP20H. Nvidia has already stated that it's up to LG to release code specific to our phones.
I was saying you should search because that link has been posted tons of times.
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That's a start, can't help but knock people down. Yeah, I know it's O2x dumb ass.
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please know what you're talking about before trying to insult people.
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I'll admit u got me.... these type of posts need to stop, get hopes up.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
This looks legit, it was posted a couple days ago, read this:
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available
It includes this:
"Tegra Android Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) OS Image for Ventana"
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.2 "Froyo" and above.
Hence, the "Tegra" it is talking about is Tegra 2
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This looks legit, it was posted a couple days ago, read this:
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/android-40-ics-os-images-tegra-android-available
It includes this:
"Tegra Android Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) OS Image for Ventana"
The Tegra 2 "Ventana" development kit is targeted at developers creating software for Android 2.2 "Froyo" and above.
Hence, the "Tegra" it is talking about is Tegra 2
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No. Ventana is what's used primarily in Tablets. We have "Harmony."
I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I wasn't bashing him and neither was anyone else. He (the op)called a guy a dumb ass because he told him its not the right driver lol.
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Cmon devs!
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This thread is funny.....rookies never learn
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I'll admit u got me.... these type of posts need to stop, get hopes up.
NVIDIA NEVER AGAIN!
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Agreed 100%
FatalityBoyZahy said:
I don't see why you guys are getting mad? It was a simple mistake. No need to bash on this guy for trying to help.
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I agree. I mean realistically I'm sure the devs will be the first to know when source or drivers get released, but but don't squash a guy for being enthusiastic and trying to be helpful.
First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage one another and promote how awesome our device is, which brings me to this... Why use these forums to bash the g2x? All the complaining and whining is why t-Mobile bailed out. I am a collision tech for highline vehicles, do you have any idea how much service a Ferrari requires to keep it running? I seriously doubt Enzo Ferrari endured customers calling to tell him what a pos his cars are(I know he's dead) Lastly, I happen to be a successful writer for another website, I happen to be a weath of knowledge with a lot of connections. I have been been working my butt off to help a certain group of devs get a certain app working on our device, all I'll say is those of us that are flashing addicts will appreciate this app. I get things done through kindness and support. I would love to see that sense of community here, lets face it, we ALL use these forums. Thank you so much all devs that have stuck it out with us, our device would be worthless without you, sincerely, artifintel.
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He called him a.......dumb ass? Gulp! I swear its a bunch of children on here. I know most of us get called worse than that on a daily basis.
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First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage one another and promote how awesome our device is, which brings me to this... Why use these forums to bash the g2x? All the complaining and whining is why t-Mobile bailed out. I am a collision tech for highline vehicles, do you have any idea how much service a Ferrari requires to keep it running? I seriously doubt Enzo Ferrari endured customers calling to tell him what a pos his cars are(I know he's dead) Lastly, I happen to be a successful writer for another website, I happen to be a weath of knowledge with a lot of connections. I have been been working my butt off to help a certain group of devs get a certain app working on our device, all I'll say is those of us that are flashing addicts will appreciate this app. I get things done through kindness and support. I would love to see that sense of community here, lets face it, we ALL use these forums. Thank you so much all devs that have stuck it out with us, our device would be worthless without you, sincerely, artifintel.
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qft. The saddest part is that some people will never learn.
BTW: Good luck
Thanks! I'm scheduled to do an article on the app, hopefully they will have it working soon.
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mustangtim49 said:
First, I would like to apologize for lowering to a level I have tried to remove from these forums. I have been in this game quite awhile and I've learned one thing for sure, being polite and helpful get the best results. I come originally from the lowly Huawei ascend and I'll tell you, that phone has a great community and still sees support and it hit eol more than 6 months ago. We as a group decided our own fate when WE pushed our devs to lock our ICS thread. This is our device and our forums and we are responsible for building a sense of community. As it is now, I cringe to check my own threads because I know they will be bloodgened with haters and "you're wrong, I'm right ". We should all try to encourage on
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Very well said. Although I don't think the "you're wrong I'm right" has a lot to do with the problem. I think the problem goes a little deeper then that.
I feel the problem lies more upon the greed of many users who for some reason think devs/themers owe them something. Developers and themers do this because we like to in our own freetime. We like seeing the page views, downloads, thanks, and constructive criticism that push us to go a step further.
I will give an example of how many of us that make releases look at things. And use my personal releases as reference.
My precision theme for all devices I own and some I don't own has about 6k downloads. Precision for cm7 has about 900. Icecreamcomb has a little over 3k. Weapon new clip has about 400. And a few thousand for all my wallpapers, boot animations, and other images I have created. So apparently a lot of people use my work which is what I hope for upon releasing, seeing as I want people to enjoy it as much as I do.
Look at my thanks meter. I have 210 thanks. So that tells me that out of the 10k+ people using my work only 210 (2%?) where grateful enough to take the liberty to click a button and show appreciation for my hours and hours of hard work. But hey that's fine at least some people do appreciate it and many more use it.
However there are always those that do nothing but troll and complain that drives everyone away. It is sad when it gets to the point that people stop developing for a device because of users. I find it quite astounding the nerve of some people.
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
shardul.phatak said:
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax
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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.