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I was involved in the HD2 forum before Android on SD was a wild spert from a dev. and the community over there needs no words of compliment (it is a given) that they are awesome.
Then I traveled on to the G2 forum where the contributions there were amazing as well.
The Question:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S 4G community the WORST anyone else has had the misfortune of dealing with as well?
From:
Jumping ship and advertising other handsets
To: Opening the most rediculous threads Only to lead another person on.
And: acting like IPhone users.
Yes this certainly comes across as a rant , AND I expect to get Flamed from those who are true to XDA and the XDA Community. BUT I really need to know.... Is it me? or does this little SG4G Community Suck?
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I must say I was really expecting a bunch of crap, BUT. You have enlightened me. So far I have gotten a good chuckle and understand a little more about the issues. Thank you XDA peeps... But keep it coming...
Maybe this would be a good thread for the Venting, to avoid other space from getting clogged up.
And btw , one of the poll of the OP being a dumbass was my vote LMAO
Opening the most rediculous threads Only to lead another person on
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Pot meet kettle.
Srsly, please, just don't....
Yes I agree with the original poster. I had this phone for about a week before I returned it because of the aforementioned reasons with this forum. Even offered to send my phone to a dev but got nothing but f'd up attitude from most everyone involved (besides the dev)! If I'm gonna have an android I want a community surrounding it that does not spend all day "DER DER #$% this is in the wrong forum, we have nothing else better to do but ***** @ everyone for attempting to get this community started!"
On a personal note, it sucked extra cause I had just sold my vibrant shortly before the 4g release cause that community also had seen its downfall in the past few months itself. Came over here to see this fledgling little group trying to get off the ground but not being in any way at all welcoming to any real thought provoking conversation. How dare we ask questions and talk about our phone!
As awesome as a phone as this is, it just does not appear that its ever gonna be a dev phone. Wish the opposite was the truth. Samsung is partly to blame for that also.
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The Question:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S 4G community the WORST anyone else has had the misfortune of dealing with as well?
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From what I've observed, there are a bunch of good people here and a few flakes. I believe it will get better as time goes on.
blah blah blah.
j3.cole said:
I was involved in the HD2 forum before Android on SD was a wild spert from a dev. and the community over there needs no words of compliment (it is a given) that they are awesome.
Then I traveled on to the G2 forum where the contributions there were amazing as well.
The Question:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S 4G community the WORST anyone else has had the misfortune of dealing with as well?
From:
Jumping ship and advertising other handsets
To: Opening the most rediculous threads Only to lead another person on.
And: acting like IPhone users.
Yes this certainly comes across as a rant , AND I expect to get Flamed from those who are true to XDA and the XDA Community. BUT I really need to know.... Is it me? or does this little SG4G Community Suck?
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Did someone say iPhone ... lol... oh no so that's why Apple is suing Samsung ... we copying not only their phone but the owners attitudes as well... lol...
I'm just joking, trying to lighten the mood...
Back to the subject I think what affected this phone was that it came out too late after the Nexus S and too close to the G2x... I think if it had the extra space of the Vibrant we would be as good as that community ... or if it ran gingerbread ... but oh well... we do have less issues than the lather phone I mention...
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From what I've observed, there are a bunch of good people here and a few flakes. I believe it will get better as time goes on.
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I think it's just a few who think themselves "forum police". I honestly hope this doesn't turn into the "vibrant" forum's. Please TRY, I know it's hard at times, to be friendly to ANY one. New to old, dumba$$'s to dev's, try to treat them all as you would want to be treated (except for you self deprecating, masochist's ).
I always see everyone complaining about the Vibrant forum, I don't really see anything wrong with it. Or was it something that happened in the past?
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I dunno, I'm technically savvy. I did alot on my G1 in terms of mod'ing. Google Experience phones are designed for that.
Anytime you get a phone with a customized rom though things change up a bit. Hence, the G2x is gonna get alot more in the community because it's a fairly stock build/experience.
I knew this when I bought the SGS4G. I like the screen (amoled), the speed etc. I'll probably get the urge to do some heavy mod'ing at some point, but for now I'm happy.
That's just me.
Sure this was a bit of a rant and like most could have been titled a little better. BUT atleast its not in the dev area. If this community keeps being stupid, can Mr. Clown close the whole thing, I don't want him too! But dumb asses keep creating thread that had answee before sgs4g even existed. Hence the sgs4g deal in the vibrant, I mean its not even a question when the answer was where they looked to create thier feeble attempt to go around krylon. Man give him a break! ****!
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Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
Once again currently using the POSGS-4g
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Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
Once again currently using the POSGS-4g
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Wanna sell it?
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j3.cole said:
Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
Once again currently using the POSGS-4g
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We're not that bad.
I love my Galaxy and I am enjoying the community so far... just my thoughts on the matter...
j3.cole said:
Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
Once again currently using the POSGS-4g
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what issues are you having and sorry you feel as if the rest of the devs other then krylon dont meet your expectations.
I don't get it. What problems are you having with the phone? Why are you complaining about the community? If it's a problem, there are plenty of other forums on this phone (rootzwiki is pretty popular nowadays ). I get that it's frustrating sometimes. I get frustrated too, but please don't project that thought to the entire community. I help out here and there and I get flamed from the very people I help. But one again, let's just calm down. If you guys have an issue with the phone, just search and then post about it. I usually answer my pm's...as quite a few of you already know...
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I can only judge it by what I have gotten out of it.....currently my SGS4G runs faster, cooler, and stays charged longer than stock. The audio is better, I'm running GB and I got my choice of 9 lock-screens etc, etc....
Ok, back to the drawing board!
I feel like such a dueche, I was really tired and my expectations were very high! I wasn't ready for any challenges and got very frustrated.
I only woke up this morning to see a kind friendly community among the SGS4G crowd. I guess I got spoiled over on the HTC side again.
My issues are that I feel like I am back at square one... Example: Flashing an EXT4, the only thing I could find was a universal zip for another phone which did not work. I really just need to put some time back into this like a noob again.
Once more I apologize and might just need to delete this thread for the sake of y'all being so nice... Uhg I feel like such an ass lol
lol dude, just take your time. I'm fairly new here myself, and don't find it all that bad. There are lots of guides out now to help you get through flashing a new rom, and there is always someone who is willing to help (I see Jager, FB, dsexton, and Raver in here a lot helping out people).
Anyway, just spend some time reading about the ROMs we have in the dev section now, and find one you like.
btw, getting ext4 on froyo is as easy as flashing the bali kernel in cwm. works great with any froyo rom (including stock). GB roms tend to be a bit tricky, but you'll get it if you follow one of the guides.
Put it this way, my SGS4g, NOT overclocked is running 3X faster than it did stock (according to quadrant) on one of the new crop of GB roms that are out now and is currently on 25 hours of uptime with 65% battery left.
and in case you haven't seen it yet, this thread is gold:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
What ROM are you trying to flash? I am currently on bionix frost and I love it completely. Runs on par with the GB roms. If you want some GB, look into icbinb GB or whitehaks new ROM. But let us know what you want to do and we can point you in the right direction...
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Regarding SK4G, there's not much left to do except fix a few bugs in the latest version (pertaining to new tweaks, **** happens right?) Then, after get a battery mod, maybe build in supercharger values and then? My works done, nothing left to do. If you have ideas I'm capable of doing, bring them up here and Ill let you know if I can do it. Otherwise, in a month I may be moving to a new phone to pick up work there and become more advanced.
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Wrong section btw.
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It has to do with development of the SK4G. I, think people have a right to know after developing something and using it, where the device stands. You no longer have a sidekick, so at the moment Im the last remaining dev, and while I'm trying not to leave people in the dark, I'm not even a good developer. Hell, I'm not even a developer at all. I just grouped things together. So, I won't be on XDA anymore, so I don't care if this is wrong section or not. I did my good deed and did my best to develop a ROM. Enjoy it all, remember stick to 3.7. Peace!
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come on we cant give up on the sidekick
Well, thank you for what you did and good luck in the future.
I would probably ***** about this, but I have less than a month until I can upgrade to a not POS phone.
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thanks for the work and trying to make our phone as good as possible, but unfortunately this phone is far from savable. its quite sad, really. i'm going to Tmobile today to see what they can do about getting me a different phone, this is simply unacceptable how it behaves even with a custom ROM installed.
Let me know what they say about getting a new phone, I've been trying the same thing
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same bull****, that they can only replace it with another sidekick. i was like, really?
they said the only thing i could do was add a line and then just switch phones. bogus. the rep at the store knew damn well the problem that the Sidekick was, so Tmobile is VERY aware of the problem they have/had with this phone and its software. worst come to worst, i'll threaten a class action lawsuit, since i know theres a lot of people who would be interested given the pages and pages of complaints about this phone on its tmobile.com support page forum.
i just want a similar phone, not even one thats necessarily better, just one that works better. like the LG Mytouch or something. anything with 4g thats similar and Android.
ok i wanna look into this, i might take a new one just to have a fresh phone but no this isnt acceptable, im working on a rom right now maybe it will work better after i work the kinks out
Yeah, I'm surprise jin1337's rom are way better than GC, kanger are better. Pick up n fix it change what people want. Dev want to do it their on way. Customer is always right.
Yeah the mods in this section could care less about the Device, and Neither of the two who ruined it for us have one either.
NIce job.
I see how the forum works. If you say something they dont like they just delete it. Great forum. No wonder people ares starting to migrate.
Also Patent Pending. That made me LOL Rad you are sad, threaten to sue ...LAWL you have ZERO grounds. Just leave please and let us have our crappy device without you.
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Yeah, I'm surprise jin1337's rom are way better than GC, kanger are better. Pick up n fix it change what people want. Dev want to do it their on way. Customer is always right.
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In english please
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Yeah the mods in this section could care less about the Device, and Neither of the two who ruined it for us have one either.
NIce job.
I see how the forum works. If you say something they dont like they just delete it. Great forum. No wonder people ares starting to migrate.
Also Patent Pending. That made me LOL Rad you are sad, threaten to sue ...LAWL you have ZERO grounds. Just leave please and let us have our crappy device without you.
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Do you want my patent numbers??? There is no Loling going on here. All my scripts are copyright and patent pending.
And that is fine with me. The specs of this device make me wanna Lulz and Lol. Sooooooo Ya I wont be helping this community any further.
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Exactly my point you are so bitter and childish (you go on to bash the specs, really? wow.) Good riddance.
Pending is the keyword, I have one too. LAWL
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Exactly my point you are so bitter and childish (you go on to bash the specs, really? wow.) Good riddance.
Pending is the keyword, I have one too. LAWL
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Pending or not doesnt matter. You apparently dont have a clear understanding on US Patent laws. No point on wasting my breath on trying to teach you.
Your guys one and only person doing roms for this device shouldnt of kanged my init.d scripts. End of story.
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I'm not talking about that. It's your attitude, and it started WAY before you were "helping".
You have a holier-than-thou attitude and it stinks. That was all I was referring to.
Take care good sir.
an you really patent a script? if so id question us patent laws
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I'm not talking about that. It's your attitude, and it started WAY before you were "helping".
You have a holier-than-thou attitude and it stinks. That was all I was referring to.
Take care good sir.
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Wow...Totally wrong. I wanted to help reviewers with generic ginger and let him use my scripts. Cause he asked me I let him use them UNDER LICENSE. JiN never asked me to use my scripts for his run off kang. I dont have a high and mighty complex I just dont apperciate people thinking its ok to take my work without asking.
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an you really patent a script? if so id question us patent laws
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Yes sir I did.
And actually it was a total of 9 different init.d scripts.
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Patents on a script? LAWLZ thanks for getting rid of our developers (we didn't have many to start) I noticed jin1337 was doing all the modfications to gingerclone. Wonder why reviewers was getting most of the credit. You have managed to ruin developement and I want icyblaze reopened. Lots of people were looking forward to that. You people really take code way too seriously anyway considering your code came from a source code someone else compied as well.... sad to see such immature people gathering to bash people who want to save this device :-(
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Ok guys So you own a SGS4g now what? Well lets just air out a few thing that get Devs absolutely fired up.
1) Requesting ROM features.
2) Ordering them to do something.
3) Repeatedly asking the same question.
4) Demanding
5) Complaining
6) Asking for a ETA on Alphas
7) Harassing
8) Threatening
I could keep going on about what makes them mad but there is already a thread about that. This thread is to Distract Noobs away from bugging the Devs by discussing ROMS with each other and answering each others questions that would normally bug Devs. Yes Devs are welcome here, but mainly this is thread to prevent Noobs from pestering the Devs about things that can be answered by other Noobs (or Google). Noobs feel free to ask, discuss, and converse away. Just remember flaming is bad so just don't do it. If you honestly don't understand the difference between positive criticism and negative then just don't criticise anyone. Better yet lets keep negativity to ourselves.
Lets get a few Questions out of the way.
Q) Does the SGS4g have an ICS ROM yet.
A) Yes There are several
Q) Who's fault is it if I brick my SGS4g?
A) YOURS, Obviously you failed to follow instructions.
Q) What's the difference between a soft brick and a hard brick.
A) One is ceramic and one is foam!! JK
DEFINITIONS you need know as a NOOB
NOOB A person only intent in serving on their own self interest.
Newb Person new to XDA
Member A person who has joined XDA
Dev Developer
RD recognised developer
MOD Modification/Moderator
ROM Read only memory
WIP work in progress
CWM Clock work mod recovery
Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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Lol awesome and no offense but 8 threatening is worse than 1 lol just saying I'd rather have people request features than threatening me haha
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True Enough LOL, Now only if people would use this thread. There Is something disturbing about a forum By noobs for noobs and first comment is from a DEV Oh well we will see if it works.
Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Who posted before me? I see no devs here lol just a couple of senior members
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Fare Enough Lol.
Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Port. I wouldn't hold my breathe for Samsung to release it.
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Not a noob but... ICS for the 4g? OTA? Or a mod / port?
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Of course it will be a port dude ^^ and be patient and enjoy GB roms as I know team acid and kickass are doing perfect jobs on more even bigger things for us <3
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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on OTA ICS well google, all the electronics companies, and the air carriers made an 18 month agreement to upgrade all devices made in the last 18 months that can be upgraded. As to whether or not they abide by the agreement is up in the air. We have to wait until they are ready to update our phone, aka when S2 sales fall, before we see an upgrade. Its all about keeping us from buying a competitors phone.
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Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasnt none of them would have agreed to it.
Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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Nice catch FB.
(off topic) I've been on IRC on and off all week and haven't found you FB lol.
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Alright I'm starting to get weirded out by the misspelling in the thread title. OP, I'll hit the thanks button if you fix it.
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I was going to say, it's kind of funny a guy starting a thread for "noobs" and he can't even spell discussion. Lol.
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There you go thanks. I tend to be a little sleep deprived when I can get a chance to steal the computer away from the kids.
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eollie said:
Motorola got around that by stating certain devices will not operate any better on ICS than GB. There is many ways to get around that agreement. If there wasn't none of them would have agreed to it.
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True but it's all about sales, if they feel that upgrading your phone will prevent you from buying the competitor, especially if the competitor releases a phone that is cheaper then their current market topper. It only makes perfect business sense if you can't sell them something new, prevent them from buying from someone else. If you have noticed that's why updates tend to always be released/leaked around the same time as a new competitors phone is released.
I would like to apologize to Lumin and fb I made and guide that was based off incorrect info, they stuck by there guns in correcting me. I was wrong as happens sometimes. The guide should be removed soon.
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No need to apologize. Just glad you finally listened
I am not about to let someone brick their phone. Just because I was stubborn.
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For those now on ICS
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It is an ICS themed blue XDA Developers APK Developed by Whiskey103.
It is the free version but if you are OCD and love colors to match then here you go.
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Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Yeah congratulations morons
*golfclaps*
I'm amazed at how some people can act like little children.
I never used any of Scott's work before but I've heard he turned out some pretty kickass stuff.
*sigh* People will never learn.
When people ignore mods telling them to knock it off, you know it's not going to end well.
Maybe a timeout for a day or two will let cooler heads prevail in the end.
I understand, if I was in Scott's position I would probably do the same. I just thinks it's funny how things clearly say what to do, and someone still messes it up.
I just sucks that people have to take it so far as to blame the dev for not doing something. When it for one flashing any thing has always been at your own risk, and two getting pissed off, and posting a nasty thread instead of just asking for help politely.
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kleeman7 said:
Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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I'm pretty sure he is on his rom forums, maybe, just maybe if those people apologize, and we all ask nicely he may come back.
His work is great, I mean the s3 forums are donating to get him a phone. That alone should say something.
Now we are down to, we'll one sense rom that is kept up. And our aosp roms which can't progress much more without source.
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This totally blows. His roms were great and that's all I rocked since the very beginning. I can't blame him at all. Hopefully within time maybe he can return. There are plenty of people that are greatful for his time and work.
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I agree... Ban them, god I hope Scott comes back, one of the only reasons to keep this phone. I was worried and stated that this could happen, I saw it in the Vivid thread.
I hope he reads this and realizes that there are way more that appreciate his work more then complain about it. If he did leave I can't say I blame him, just hope it doesn't happen
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So I have a few choice words that I think this entire forum should read, but its mainly directed to whomever was talking crap about Scott. And I don't know who it was. And I apologize for the occasional profanity, but its stuff like this that really hits home for me.
As developers, we try to enhance the user experience of our phones for the good of the community. We don't get anything out of developing besides the occasional donation that someone gives us since they like our work. We aren't forced to do the work that we do. I can turn around right now and cease all development on the two ROMs I do (AOKP and Evervolv) for this phone. But I don't. Want to know why? Because of all the people in the threads saying "Wow, this ROM is awesome! Thanks Rohan!" and "This made my phone really awesome! Thanks!". If I didn't have those people then I wouldn't feel like updating the ROM. Even if you aren't using my ROMs and you drop in to say "This looks awesome, though I will wait for more stability!" That feels good too since you know someone still liked your work.
When you have someone calling you "selfish" and "annoying" it gets to you. When you put your work out, you want it to be the best. When it isn't the best, you try to make it the best. Thats why I and every other developer on XDA update and fix bugs. We want the ROM to be the best it can be. Thats why I stay up regularly till 2 AM looking up new Android features and the Platform Guide on the android developer site. I want to become a better developer for the community. Not for myself, but for the community. When you have someone degrading yourself, you feel like ****. And when you don't feel good about your work, you feel like the community is not enjoying your work. At that point it becomes a "why bother even updating this" sort of thing.
So when someone is being an asshat in the forums against you, it hurts. If you think that putting these ROMs out benefits us, the developers in any way besides the infrequent donation, you are sorely mistaken. We put these ROMs out for the community. I enjoy making ROMs for the community because I like to see all of the "Great job!" posts in my thread. It vindicates my work and proves me right that I can indeed make a ROM people like. Sure, the donations are an added plus and they help as well.
And now onto the "selfish" part of that statement. Are. you. effing. kidding. me. Seriously? You call us selfish. After staying up late hours to get a ROM out for YOU, you turn around and call us selfish? I dont even know what to say to that statement. We are not "selfish." You think putting our name onto a ROM is the best prize in the world? Why the flying f*** would we need that? So that people know my name? Are you effing kidding me?
So whomever it was, GTFO. The work that we do as developers benefits nobody but the people of these forums. We, the developers help make XDA how great it is. If you don't want to deal with developers, please, go back to stock. We don't need you to run our ROMs.
And to the rest of you, thank you for showing your support. Its a sad day when someone as nice as Scott is lost due to a few spoilt brats in the forums. And please, if you are using a custom ROM and you are enjoying it, tell your developer that you like it. Tell them that this phone became better because of their work. I promise you that we read the posts when we have time. And whenever we do it makes us feel a bit more warm and fuzzy inside.
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+1 for hoping Scott ignores the bullies and comes back. His work has made a good phone great for me!
-- Jon
Awesome post dude agree 100%
Also hint hint the DB is the one posting in your aokp thread.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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So the little whiney, self-entitled b!tches of xda strike again. Seriously, f*ck all of you little twerps that posted anything disrespectful to Scott. He's amazing, and makes an amazing ROM and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for driving him away. I swear to god, I hate what xda has become. there are only a select few that put in any hard work for the rest to reap the benefits of, and there are always a sh!t ton of brats who think that they paid for these ROMs when they paid for their phones. It doesn't work that way, you sniveling little d!ckheads. These devs don't work for the manufacturers, the carriers, or xda- they do it FOR FREE, FOR US, because they kick ass, and they deserve nothing but respect from ALL OF US. Seriously, I am issuing a blanket F*CK YOU to every douche on xda who ever talked sh!t to or about any dev here.
I am going to go through his threads and anyone I see talking any sh!t to or about Scott is from here on out permanently banned from receiving ANY of my case giveaways.
Gunny, kleeman, rohan, or any of the other forum regulars that I interact with on a regular basis, if you would be so kind as to help point out who the offenders are it would be greatly appreciated.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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+1.
This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Ah f it I'll just come out and say it. Yep that's the DB!
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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Yep, back when the SD card wiping issues first started happening he told everyone not to use CWM and to use TWRP instead. Buuuut people don't want to do any actual reading so it becomes Scott's fault for not showing up at their doorstep and holding their hand for them when they flash his ROMs, cross the street, take a piss, what have you. Bottom line is if you flash, you assume ALL risk. It's your own damn fault for not reading. Even if you're flashing an updated version of the ROM you've been running for months, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS read the entire OP for changelog, flash instructions, etc. The moron in question said that it's because his xda app didn't put the warning in red but bottom line is it was still there. Had he READ THE ENTIRE OP, he would have seen the warning whether it was red, green, blue or purple with pink polka dots. His own damn fault, and at this point I'm glad his phone got eff'd up. Serves him right.
hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
shardul.phatak said:
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax
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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.