Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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Yeah congratulations morons
*golfclaps*
I'm amazed at how some people can act like little children.
I never used any of Scott's work before but I've heard he turned out some pretty kickass stuff.
*sigh* People will never learn.
When people ignore mods telling them to knock it off, you know it's not going to end well.
Maybe a timeout for a day or two will let cooler heads prevail in the end.
I understand, if I was in Scott's position I would probably do the same. I just thinks it's funny how things clearly say what to do, and someone still messes it up.
I just sucks that people have to take it so far as to blame the dev for not doing something. When it for one flashing any thing has always been at your own risk, and two getting pissed off, and posting a nasty thread instead of just asking for help politely.
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Scott had locked both of his threads thanks to a few xda members who had problems, and decided to take it out on him.
I think those people who blamed him should apologize, instead of being selfish and ruining for us all.
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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NOOOOOOOO! Cant we kust kick those retards off XDA, Scott please come back!
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I'm pretty sure he is on his rom forums, maybe, just maybe if those people apologize, and we all ask nicely he may come back.
His work is great, I mean the s3 forums are donating to get him a phone. That alone should say something.
Now we are down to, we'll one sense rom that is kept up. And our aosp roms which can't progress much more without source.
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This totally blows. His roms were great and that's all I rocked since the very beginning. I can't blame him at all. Hopefully within time maybe he can return. There are plenty of people that are greatful for his time and work.
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I agree... Ban them, god I hope Scott comes back, one of the only reasons to keep this phone. I was worried and stated that this could happen, I saw it in the Vivid thread.
I hope he reads this and realizes that there are way more that appreciate his work more then complain about it. If he did leave I can't say I blame him, just hope it doesn't happen
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So I have a few choice words that I think this entire forum should read, but its mainly directed to whomever was talking crap about Scott. And I don't know who it was. And I apologize for the occasional profanity, but its stuff like this that really hits home for me.
As developers, we try to enhance the user experience of our phones for the good of the community. We don't get anything out of developing besides the occasional donation that someone gives us since they like our work. We aren't forced to do the work that we do. I can turn around right now and cease all development on the two ROMs I do (AOKP and Evervolv) for this phone. But I don't. Want to know why? Because of all the people in the threads saying "Wow, this ROM is awesome! Thanks Rohan!" and "This made my phone really awesome! Thanks!". If I didn't have those people then I wouldn't feel like updating the ROM. Even if you aren't using my ROMs and you drop in to say "This looks awesome, though I will wait for more stability!" That feels good too since you know someone still liked your work.
When you have someone calling you "selfish" and "annoying" it gets to you. When you put your work out, you want it to be the best. When it isn't the best, you try to make it the best. Thats why I and every other developer on XDA update and fix bugs. We want the ROM to be the best it can be. Thats why I stay up regularly till 2 AM looking up new Android features and the Platform Guide on the android developer site. I want to become a better developer for the community. Not for myself, but for the community. When you have someone degrading yourself, you feel like ****. And when you don't feel good about your work, you feel like the community is not enjoying your work. At that point it becomes a "why bother even updating this" sort of thing.
So when someone is being an asshat in the forums against you, it hurts. If you think that putting these ROMs out benefits us, the developers in any way besides the infrequent donation, you are sorely mistaken. We put these ROMs out for the community. I enjoy making ROMs for the community because I like to see all of the "Great job!" posts in my thread. It vindicates my work and proves me right that I can indeed make a ROM people like. Sure, the donations are an added plus and they help as well.
And now onto the "selfish" part of that statement. Are. you. effing. kidding. me. Seriously? You call us selfish. After staying up late hours to get a ROM out for YOU, you turn around and call us selfish? I dont even know what to say to that statement. We are not "selfish." You think putting our name onto a ROM is the best prize in the world? Why the flying f*** would we need that? So that people know my name? Are you effing kidding me?
So whomever it was, GTFO. The work that we do as developers benefits nobody but the people of these forums. We, the developers help make XDA how great it is. If you don't want to deal with developers, please, go back to stock. We don't need you to run our ROMs.
And to the rest of you, thank you for showing your support. Its a sad day when someone as nice as Scott is lost due to a few spoilt brats in the forums. And please, if you are using a custom ROM and you are enjoying it, tell your developer that you like it. Tell them that this phone became better because of their work. I promise you that we read the posts when we have time. And whenever we do it makes us feel a bit more warm and fuzzy inside.
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+1 for hoping Scott ignores the bullies and comes back. His work has made a good phone great for me!
-- Jon
Awesome post dude agree 100%
Also hint hint the DB is the one posting in your aokp thread.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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So the little whiney, self-entitled b!tches of xda strike again. Seriously, f*ck all of you little twerps that posted anything disrespectful to Scott. He's amazing, and makes an amazing ROM and you should all be ashamed of yourselves for driving him away. I swear to god, I hate what xda has become. there are only a select few that put in any hard work for the rest to reap the benefits of, and there are always a sh!t ton of brats who think that they paid for these ROMs when they paid for their phones. It doesn't work that way, you sniveling little d!ckheads. These devs don't work for the manufacturers, the carriers, or xda- they do it FOR FREE, FOR US, because they kick ass, and they deserve nothing but respect from ALL OF US. Seriously, I am issuing a blanket F*CK YOU to every douche on xda who ever talked sh!t to or about any dev here.
I am going to go through his threads and anyone I see talking any sh!t to or about Scott is from here on out permanently banned from receiving ANY of my case giveaways.
Gunny, kleeman, rohan, or any of the other forum regulars that I interact with on a regular basis, if you would be so kind as to help point out who the offenders are it would be greatly appreciated.
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Son of a ......
This is why you can't have nice things. Fraking whiners.
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+1.
This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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This thread MAY or may not be related.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1761429
And MAY or may not be the 3rd poster.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Ah f it I'll just come out and say it. Yep that's the DB!
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Yeah, that was the first one that grabbed my attention in the CleanROM SE thread.
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Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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Sad thing is like at least 4 people had the same issue, and it's all from lack of reading.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Scott state a long time ago like cleanrom 2.1 days that CWM caused issues? And Scott also said he loved CWM and hated to switch from it?
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Yep, back when the SD card wiping issues first started happening he told everyone not to use CWM and to use TWRP instead. Buuuut people don't want to do any actual reading so it becomes Scott's fault for not showing up at their doorstep and holding their hand for them when they flash his ROMs, cross the street, take a piss, what have you. Bottom line is if you flash, you assume ALL risk. It's your own damn fault for not reading. Even if you're flashing an updated version of the ROM you've been running for months, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS read the entire OP for changelog, flash instructions, etc. The moron in question said that it's because his xda app didn't put the warning in red but bottom line is it was still there. Had he READ THE ENTIRE OP, he would have seen the warning whether it was red, green, blue or purple with pink polka dots. His own damn fault, and at this point I'm glad his phone got eff'd up. Serves him right.
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I was involved in the HD2 forum before Android on SD was a wild spert from a dev. and the community over there needs no words of compliment (it is a given) that they are awesome.
Then I traveled on to the G2 forum where the contributions there were amazing as well.
The Question:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S 4G community the WORST anyone else has had the misfortune of dealing with as well?
From:
Jumping ship and advertising other handsets
To: Opening the most rediculous threads Only to lead another person on.
And: acting like IPhone users.
Yes this certainly comes across as a rant , AND I expect to get Flamed from those who are true to XDA and the XDA Community. BUT I really need to know.... Is it me? or does this little SG4G Community Suck?
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I must say I was really expecting a bunch of crap, BUT. You have enlightened me. So far I have gotten a good chuckle and understand a little more about the issues. Thank you XDA peeps... But keep it coming...
Maybe this would be a good thread for the Venting, to avoid other space from getting clogged up.
And btw , one of the poll of the OP being a dumbass was my vote LMAO
Opening the most rediculous threads Only to lead another person on
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Pot meet kettle.
Srsly, please, just don't....
Yes I agree with the original poster. I had this phone for about a week before I returned it because of the aforementioned reasons with this forum. Even offered to send my phone to a dev but got nothing but f'd up attitude from most everyone involved (besides the dev)! If I'm gonna have an android I want a community surrounding it that does not spend all day "DER DER #$% this is in the wrong forum, we have nothing else better to do but ***** @ everyone for attempting to get this community started!"
On a personal note, it sucked extra cause I had just sold my vibrant shortly before the 4g release cause that community also had seen its downfall in the past few months itself. Came over here to see this fledgling little group trying to get off the ground but not being in any way at all welcoming to any real thought provoking conversation. How dare we ask questions and talk about our phone!
As awesome as a phone as this is, it just does not appear that its ever gonna be a dev phone. Wish the opposite was the truth. Samsung is partly to blame for that also.
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The Question:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S 4G community the WORST anyone else has had the misfortune of dealing with as well?
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From what I've observed, there are a bunch of good people here and a few flakes. I believe it will get better as time goes on.
blah blah blah.
j3.cole said:
I was involved in the HD2 forum before Android on SD was a wild spert from a dev. and the community over there needs no words of compliment (it is a given) that they are awesome.
Then I traveled on to the G2 forum where the contributions there were amazing as well.
The Question:
Is the Samsung Galaxy S 4G community the WORST anyone else has had the misfortune of dealing with as well?
From:
Jumping ship and advertising other handsets
To: Opening the most rediculous threads Only to lead another person on.
And: acting like IPhone users.
Yes this certainly comes across as a rant , AND I expect to get Flamed from those who are true to XDA and the XDA Community. BUT I really need to know.... Is it me? or does this little SG4G Community Suck?
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Did someone say iPhone ... lol... oh no so that's why Apple is suing Samsung ... we copying not only their phone but the owners attitudes as well... lol...
I'm just joking, trying to lighten the mood...
Back to the subject I think what affected this phone was that it came out too late after the Nexus S and too close to the G2x... I think if it had the extra space of the Vibrant we would be as good as that community ... or if it ran gingerbread ... but oh well... we do have less issues than the lather phone I mention...
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I think it's just a few who think themselves "forum police". I honestly hope this doesn't turn into the "vibrant" forum's. Please TRY, I know it's hard at times, to be friendly to ANY one. New to old, dumba$$'s to dev's, try to treat them all as you would want to be treated (except for you self deprecating, masochist's ).
I always see everyone complaining about the Vibrant forum, I don't really see anything wrong with it. Or was it something that happened in the past?
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I dunno, I'm technically savvy. I did alot on my G1 in terms of mod'ing. Google Experience phones are designed for that.
Anytime you get a phone with a customized rom though things change up a bit. Hence, the G2x is gonna get alot more in the community because it's a fairly stock build/experience.
I knew this when I bought the SGS4G. I like the screen (amoled), the speed etc. I'll probably get the urge to do some heavy mod'ing at some point, but for now I'm happy.
That's just me.
Sure this was a bit of a rant and like most could have been titled a little better. BUT atleast its not in the dev area. If this community keeps being stupid, can Mr. Clown close the whole thing, I don't want him too! But dumb asses keep creating thread that had answee before sgs4g even existed. Hence the sgs4g deal in the vibrant, I mean its not even a question when the answer was where they looked to create thier feeble attempt to go around krylon. Man give him a break! ****!
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Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
Once again currently using the POSGS-4g
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Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
Once again currently using the POSGS-4g
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Wanna sell it?
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Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
Once again currently using the POSGS-4g
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We're not that bad.
I love my Galaxy and I am enjoying the community so far... just my thoughts on the matter...
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Wow, back for less than a few hours and HOLY HELL, it went from bad to worse, Now I have to figure a way out of this phone again!!! My Fiancee was content with it but she is a regular phone user. What the hell was I thinking? I don't usually troll, but **** even the **** I read from the devs over here is ridiculous. Short vauge descriptions of what to do, and the arrogance is tick as hell.
I guess the real xda-developers knew better, thats why they stick with htc.
I expect some flames and I already know who it will be coming from, just reading a few posts.
I introduced a few people to xda and sadly enough ones first experience was here is this so called community and I now understand why he gave up. And what happened to the only worth while dev (as far as I can tell) Krylon. HE WAS A REAL XDA DEVELOPER.
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what issues are you having and sorry you feel as if the rest of the devs other then krylon dont meet your expectations.
I don't get it. What problems are you having with the phone? Why are you complaining about the community? If it's a problem, there are plenty of other forums on this phone (rootzwiki is pretty popular nowadays ). I get that it's frustrating sometimes. I get frustrated too, but please don't project that thought to the entire community. I help out here and there and I get flamed from the very people I help. But one again, let's just calm down. If you guys have an issue with the phone, just search and then post about it. I usually answer my pm's...as quite a few of you already know...
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I can only judge it by what I have gotten out of it.....currently my SGS4G runs faster, cooler, and stays charged longer than stock. The audio is better, I'm running GB and I got my choice of 9 lock-screens etc, etc....
Ok, back to the drawing board!
I feel like such a dueche, I was really tired and my expectations were very high! I wasn't ready for any challenges and got very frustrated.
I only woke up this morning to see a kind friendly community among the SGS4G crowd. I guess I got spoiled over on the HTC side again.
My issues are that I feel like I am back at square one... Example: Flashing an EXT4, the only thing I could find was a universal zip for another phone which did not work. I really just need to put some time back into this like a noob again.
Once more I apologize and might just need to delete this thread for the sake of y'all being so nice... Uhg I feel like such an ass lol
lol dude, just take your time. I'm fairly new here myself, and don't find it all that bad. There are lots of guides out now to help you get through flashing a new rom, and there is always someone who is willing to help (I see Jager, FB, dsexton, and Raver in here a lot helping out people).
Anyway, just spend some time reading about the ROMs we have in the dev section now, and find one you like.
btw, getting ext4 on froyo is as easy as flashing the bali kernel in cwm. works great with any froyo rom (including stock). GB roms tend to be a bit tricky, but you'll get it if you follow one of the guides.
Put it this way, my SGS4g, NOT overclocked is running 3X faster than it did stock (according to quadrant) on one of the new crop of GB roms that are out now and is currently on 25 hours of uptime with 65% battery left.
and in case you haven't seen it yet, this thread is gold:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1117554
What ROM are you trying to flash? I am currently on bionix frost and I love it completely. Runs on par with the GB roms. If you want some GB, look into icbinb GB or whitehaks new ROM. But let us know what you want to do and we can point you in the right direction...
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FYI.
Think what you want about the guy, he kept ROMs moving when there was only two guys working on our device. I for one will miss his work. He pushed development away from shades of stock and in interesting directions. He is moving to a Samsung Galaxy S Epic II.
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Coug76 said:
FYI.
Think what you want about the guy, he kept ROMs moving when there was only two guys working on our device. I for one will miss his work. He pushed development away from shades of stock and in interesting directions. He is moving to a Samsung Galaxy S Epic II.
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He might have been the King of Kang, but he did some good stuff with the phone. Dem ROMs.
That's a bummer, I know a lot of people enjoyed his work. I however will not miss his attitude, I stopped using any of his work months ago because of the way he talked to people. I much prefer to support Blue, because he is very helpful, and approachable, and is always respectful. I am bummed for the people who enjoyed Undead's work though.
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That's a bummer, I know a lot of people enjoyed his work. I however will not miss his attitude, I stopped using any of his work months ago because of the way he talked to people. I much prefer to support Blue, because he is very helpful, and approachable, and is always respectful. I am bummed for the people who enjoyed Undead's work though.
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Being a developer is stressful. I for one would have his same attitude if I was a developer. He did have a bad attitude at times but he supported his work to the fullest. No other dev for DS can say that.
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Who cares about his attitude?
I've never encountered him acting out on anyone, granted I've only been in this community for the past few weeks or so, but does that matter?
He was great at making roms, and graciously released his work to all of us. He even kept up a great update schedule. Devs are not here to be your friend or guidance counselor. And they also have no obligation of being nice to anyone. Releasing their work to everyone is nice in itself.
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Who cares about his attitude?
I've never encountered him acting out on anyone, granted I've only been in this community for the past few weeks or so, but does that matter?
He was great at making roms, and graciously released his work to all of us. He even kept up a great update schedule. Devs are not here to be your friend or guidance counselor. And they also have no obligation of being nice to anyone. Releasing their work to everyone is nice in itself.
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It is my right to think he had a bad attitude and boycott his work. I also didn't like him cutting out common features from a rom just to make it faster, when this device is already fast enough for anything I need it to do, so I choose to use something else. I think no matter what anyone does, they can be respectful when talking to people. That doesn't mean being a friend or guidance counselor, it just means being respectful. Also there were other issues that caused him to get banned from xda, so I am not the only one who has an issue with the guy (just sayin').
Anytime a dev leaves a community, it's generally a bad thing.
I totally respect the fact that he put a lot of time and energy into building these ROMs, however, I never really felt like he *owned* any. Most developers tend to build a ROM that they use, and improve it. Undead built like a bazillion ROMS, and I never felt like he really personally used/supported any of his creations.
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It is my right to think he had a bad attitude and boycott his work. I also didn't like him cutting out common features from a rom just to make it faster, when this device is already fast enough for anything I need it to do, so I choose to use something else. I think no matter what anyone does, they can be respectful when talking to people. That doesn't mean being a friend or guidance counselor, it just means being respectful. Also there were other issues that caused him to get banned from xda, so I am not the only one who has an issue with the guy (just sayin').
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Of course it is your right. I never said it wasn't. And as I said before, I've never seen him act out.
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Every time.
I think the biggest impact would be to out counterparts in the rootzwiki. Without him, I think that forum is gonna go quite... quiet.
Meanwhile, I don't think it's a good idea for members in this community to be flaming at each other--we're supposed to support each other, aren't we?
It sucks that he left (here and mt4gs in general) - whether we regard him as king kang, or DS's savior, but we'll have to move on. I'm probably gonna write him a PM over at rootz saying thanks for his contribution for MT4GS later today.
You know, I couldn't help but chime in here; I'm a freelance developer, and don't get to develop a lot for anything but work. So this brings me to a short manifesto (sorry I'm a marxist and I like to use the word when I can), even though it's just a list of observations I want to share:
1) No 'community' is better without someone [I hesitated to say anyone ]
1a) I feel this attitude is such a contradiction to the intent of
open-source. In other words, open-source, just not open-attitude.
1b) I'm not trying to be insulting, but I find it funny you
comment on the red-herring of someone's age, when I would think
someone closer to my age (I'm gathering you too are a gainfully employed
adult; we'll just say closer to 40 than 30 =) )...so I try to liken it to
working with people you don't necessarily like; caveat here is no ones
making a lot of/any money, so try to be a little more appreciative and
a little less judgmental (think off all these peeps work as a favor). Which
brings me to...
1c) "...he got into deving for this phone for the wrong reasons. This was
inevitable. I'm surprised he stuck THIS long." We need to get together
and start a business if u can read minds, and what the "wrong reasons"
for learning rom development might be...well I'll be thinking
on that one for a while
2) Is this even verified? I'm about to PM him and ask....he's been nothing
but polite and cordgial from what I've seen.
3) "That is the kind of quip Undead would regularly let go. And why???
Completely unnecessary." Ever occur to you that the community(YOU)
should complain about the post and get it removed? If it's that
bad it will be?
3a) Personally, I'd rather devs work on what they do best, bringing
us great ROM's!
3b) Maybe the community needs to police itself a little, your post
seemed to be pointless, IMHO; I mean, apparently you don't like
this guy, but I bet you use his $hit.
EDIT: Confirmed, he's finishing up some of his current stuff and moving on to another device...even mentioned the XDA rift as one of the reasons...guess you can make software open-source, but peoples' attitudes are just as big a barrier.
That's all...soap box is someone else's now
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You know, I couldn't help but chime in here; I'm a freelance developer, and don't get to develop a lot for anything but work. So this brings me to a short manifesto (sorry I'm a marxist and I like to use the word when I can), even though it's just a list of observations I want to share:
1) No 'community' is better without someone [I hesitated to say anyone ]
1a) I feel this attitude is such a contradiction to the intent of
open-source. In other words, open-source, just not open-attitude.
1b) I'm not trying to be insulting, but I find it funny you
comment on the red-herring of someone's age, when I would think
someone closer to my age (I'm gathering you too are a gainfully employed
adult; we'll just say closer to 40 than 30 =) )...so I try to liken it to
working with people you don't necessarily like; caveat here is no ones
making a lot of/any money, so try to be a little more appreciative and
a little less judgmental (think off all these peeps work as a favor). Which
brings me to...
1c) "...he got into deving for this phone for the wrong reasons. This was
inevitable. I'm surprised he stuck THIS long." We need to get together
and start a business if u can read minds, and what the "wrong reasons"
for learning rom development might be...well I'll be thinking
on that one for a while
2) Is this even verified? I'm about to PM him and ask....he's been nothing
but polite and cordgial from what I've seen.
3) "That is the kind of quip Undead would regularly let go. And why???
Completely unnecessary." Ever occur to you that the community(YOU)
should complain about the post and get it removed? If it's that
bad it will be?
3a) Personally, I'd rather devs work on what they do best, bringing
us great ROM's!
3b) Maybe the community needs to police itself a little, your post
seemed to be pointless, IMHO; I mean, apparently you don't like
this guy, but I bet you use his $hit.
EDIT: Confirmed, he's finishing up some of his current stuff and moving on to another device...even mentioned the XDA rift as one of the reasons...guess you can make software open-source, but peoples' attitudes are just as big a barrier.
That's all...soap box is someone else's now
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Wow. I'm impressed. That was very well said. FYI @_atlien_ I'm 27. I just got no patients for peoples stupidity. I pmed undeadk9 a long message. Thanking him for the time he did develop for us. Also @_atlien_ It is YOUR attitude and YOUR Stupidity asking bout unmarrying android and Google was by far the most stupid request I've even seen on any forum. YOU bring out the worst in people. Just saying. Rather then pointing fingers at undead why don't you look in the mirror. When people ask stupid questions it tends to piss off people. The community would actually be better off without YOU. Not undeadk9.
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wait wait wait...aren't you the same idiot who thought it was a good idea to "unmarry" android and Google? Lmfao. You might as well just keep your mouth shut. You got zero creditibilty in this discussion. I'm not even a dev and I know its not possible.
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Don't worry buddy, I've reported you
Technically it is possible to a certain extent. Just don't install any gapps
Ive never even seen anything undead released, i just got this phone last weekend, anyways its always sad to see a developer leave the scene, i come from the evo shift forums and we had some good development but nothing was updated and maintained there was always a new release that never seen updates, and i stepped up and did everything i could for them, and it was a very rewarding adventure....btw never sell anyone short because you all just got a couple new users than can dev a bit lol
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Sorry guys, but I am leaving. My development thread got closed and a bunch of people were trolling. I will just stick with the Kindle Fire and other phones. You barely knew me and most of you hate me, so I will just stay someplace else. Thanks for at least trying my rom for those who did. As of now I am officially dropping ReloadedROM™ support for the sensation. I am insulted that many of you came to the conclusion that I kanged a rom. If you want to post here, it will be ignored as I am no longer part of this forum. Thank you.
EDIT: I decided I will actually remake my rom for it, this time I will get the correct permissions (Vorbeth's build.prop and kernel) and cite my sources correctly. I originally posted in a hurry and was just lazy about everything, I apologize. I have no ETA when this will be re-released, but expect that it will happen. If Vorbeth denies permissions of me to use this rom's build.prop or kernel, I will make them myself and then the rom will be worse, so... cross your fingers! Vorbeth: I want to use your build.prop and kernel because they are the most stable, and I don't want to mess with that. That was not me asking for permission, that was just a general statement.
EDIT2 (9:05AM): Just asked Vorbeth for permission to use build.prop and kernel for the good of the community, hope he says yes.
Too bad what a great developer 1st
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A mod and Vorbeth came to that conclusion.
thats too bad. i tried and liked your rom. Havent tried the other cm9 but yours worked great... thanks for everything...
Hey, just had to check in one more time. I might again support this device in the future. Let's let this pass and see from there
~ BiteBlaze via HTC Sensation
Not entirely sure why you're insulted, your ROM is a CM kang. Many people kang CM and don't get in a stress about it (myself included).
I feel you i try to help a few people and got banned for telling them they were a loser for calling me name and blocked them don't EVER let someone run you you bro
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I'm lost... A developer is getting or has gotten banned?
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I'm lost... A developer is getting or has gotten banned?
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No, that was an unrelated post. I am actually re-supporting this device (I change my mind fast). Discourage me if you will, but I want to make this for the community, and I will get there no matter what it takes.
Yeah this forum is lame that way. Many developers have been scared off because of it. It appears no one can ask for source or credit in a courteous manner. Most of the time the people asking for source or credit are completely unrelated, it's amazing. Miss the mt4g and hd2 forum.
Glad you're sticking around. Thank you.
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I am not a Dev but know ins and outs and was called a few name when asked for help I called someone a loser and told them I blocked them they got me banned for 11 days
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stay with us dont leave this
Glad you're staying.
Don't mind some of the rude and ungrateful people here, no matter where you go in the world. There will always be people like that...
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It's always nice to have a diversity of ROMs. Looking forward on what you'll come up with, keep up the good work.
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Shame really. It's sad to see that your thread was closed for a really stupid reason.
Thread closed or not - I'm continuing to use the ROM.... WHY? Because it's freaking awesome - that's why!
No offense, I don't hate or have anything against you. Just trying to point out reason
First of all, I know that everyone is not like me... but I for one check for the "dev's" credibility. I look at your profile and bam "Sensation bricked" and how is it bricked? It isn't, you had trouble solving an issue that I would consider quite simple.
Second of all, I was a bit excited to see a new CM rom (yours) and lost all interest when I noticed it was nothing new / different. Pretty much the same as Vorbeth's work. Worst of all, IIRC 0 credits were given out and the "I originally posted in a hurry and was just lazy about everything" is just asking for it. Now that you've asked Vorbeth for the permissions, I'm sure (and hope he does) he'll agree to that. Afterall, we're an open community and it's not 100% his work either!
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thats too bad. i tried and liked your rom. Havent tried the other cm9 but yours worked great... thanks for everything...
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Now that's the thing! If you tried the other one, it'd be pretty much the exact same!
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Too bad what a great developer
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He isn't a dev, which is the problem and some members such as myself find that bs. I can create a rom - keep in mind that I know NOTHING except to compile and zip it up - from other peoples work. I would personally be annoyed if someone just took my stuff and put it together, claiming that it's "their work." I hope you see why these "trolls" aren't happy with what you put up. I for one, held back lol cause it never really gets anywhere. You'll notice the plentiful of roms that just zip/compiled here already and the very few "devs". If anything, members like myself want less junk and more awsm stuff!
Don't take everything into heart, I don't mean to offend you. I'm honestly just trying to be reasonable and pointing out some things you and others might not notice here! (Especially since you're new to the sensation forums)
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=Now that's the thing! If you tried the other one, it'd be pretty much the exact same!
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I will try it soon. the only thing that scared me away from it was that vorbeth doesnt have his phone right now so development of the rom might be slowed down...
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I will try it soon. the only thing that scared me away from it was that vorbeth doesnt have his phone right now so development of the rom might be slowed down...
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How on earth is that a bad thing? Keep in mind that OpenSensation has been in development for ages... I certainly find your priorities quite unusual...
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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u've just ignited the FIRE !
jst wait n watch
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Hope i don't get flamed for this
Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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Nothing is guaranteed...you're not going to get any assurances about anything here. Go ahead and do what you have to.
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I already know that nothing is guranteed but looking at situation one can atleast judge what is up in store.Right now that dev section is kinda stagnant and devs are upto something in secret and that is absolutely fine considering what moto has done in past.So a small heads up would always be welcomed.
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hello everyone As some of you must have already read that Moto is closing down in asia-pacific and so in india, I was thinking to sell of my A2.I'm not really sure but thoughts are coming in my mind.So what I want to ask here is that is there any development and breakthrough on good front going on ? (I'm sure something or other might be surely brewing up amongst devs) but still is it that exciting, If yes i would hold of my A2 and wont sell it off (If i am getting some good ROM) or atleast a progress on it (don't get me wrong here i m not pushing anyone).
Just wanted to ask coz, if there is no future regarding development I might think to sell A2 before the prices drop even more.
regards,
peace.
PS : I know the secrecy so if someone wants to reply but doesn't think its right to post in here coz Moto might see it, can drop me a PM
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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HA! Love the word play there.
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Really? How long have you been here? To pose the question as to if there may be no 'exciting' advances being made on the development front is rather insulting. I can say that I myself have worked 'behind the scenes' and these guys are ALWAYS working on things. How "exciting" they may be is purely based on your own perception. If there was any indication of having no future of development, don't you think these guys would have moved on half a year ago from this phone? Also, I don't see as to why Motorola shutting down to some capacity in India would have any bearing on whether to sell your Atrix 2 or to keep it. Not sure if this is "forum fishing", but hold onto your pole... you're going to get some bites.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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Well then i really can't help if people interpret or decide to interpret thing in wrong way.I think its perfectly fine to ask.Coz neither am I pushing anyone/anything nor I'm discrediting anyone.
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team hasn't bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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You missed my point here, I'm afraid. I posed a question in retort to your own, pointing out all of the 'breakthroughs' that have been made in almost a year, and more specifically here lately. No, the dev team has bought tickets to "Margaritaville" and will not be kicking up their heels after ordering two pina coladas- they are always on the job, and always testing. If you'd like to pass your Atrix 2 on, for whatever reason, then I wish you the best. Impatience has always run amok here in this forum, and more so recently. Be it due to Motorola or otherwise, it's rather unnecessary. I'd suggest waiting before you pull the trigger on a sale of your Atrix 2, with the abilities we are fortunate enough to benefit from by our devs, this is why I opted to hold onto mine after purchasing the SGS3. But, as LaVar Burton used to say, "You don't have to take MY word for it"...
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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For one I'm not being impatient.Impatient would be "hey you dev wats taking you so long i want new ROM" < This is impatient and arrogant. I never said anything like this,It was just a humble question.If you as a kid as some questions to your elder coz they know more does that count as being arrogant,impatient and rude ? I guess no.I asked very humbly as they know much much more than me.And again for the breakthrough as I said earlier yet repeating for nth time i am grateful to them and did not discredit or deny that fact.They have done much awesome work and changed the A2's scene.But for once just get in my shoes and try to think,and again if someone interprets this as disrespecting devs i really cant help coz i didn't.
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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So true.very well said bro.
athani said:
You're right my friend, but the atmosphere and the people being what they are around this forum, you were always going to be flamed. I'd warned you.
In any case, there's not much anybody is going to be able to tell you. Things are uncertain and they take time...you know what I mean.
I wonder why anybody can't understand that Motorola leaving India does have a bearing on whether you want to keep your phone. I perfectly understand.
Anyway, long story short, on this forum, if you ask a question - you're spamming, if you don't know something - you're an idiot, if you you have a different opinion - you're being aggressive.
Pay no heed. Relax. Enjoy life
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
Edit: I really wasn't trying to be a jerk, but when someone - anyone - makes a post, they should expect to have it open for discussion. That's all I was engaging in.
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Lol! If you think my comments were "flaming", you ain't seen flaming yet. I'm not answering for the devs here, but exchanging with the OP my own rebuttal. I'll allow any dev here the opportunity to address the question. Perhaps you shouldn't be so sensitive, athani. Just a suggestion...
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Sir, whatever made you think I was referring to your posts ! Relax
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Sir, whatever made you think I was talking about you! Relax.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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Oh, I'm good. Trust me, my blood pressure is still within normal range. I was just clarifying that my comments were not of a "flaming" nature. Now, if others flame the OP over this, I'd have to align myself with Archmag3, in that he's got every right to ask a question here. With every question should come answers, unfortunately and at times frequently they happen to be befouled with opinion.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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I never suggested that any particular persons comments were "flaming" in nature. So we're cool. BTW, "opinions" by themselves can never "befouled" or for that matter be true or untrue. That's something lots of people here don't understand. Hence, all the unpleasantness.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can be befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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Let's not argue semantics here, I stated that "answers" can he befouled with opinion. That is quite categorical.
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I wasn't arguing semantics. It's something that requires serious introspection among some guys here.
Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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Just think like this..if moto is shutting down sales in india that means no one is ever goin to get a chance to own such an awesome phone like atrix 2..this phone is really awesome man..i am goin to hold on to my A2 (mine just two months old) till the last breath is out of my phone..and i would advice you to do the same..and service centres will work naa..so why worry??
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I think the resale value will be adversely affected because of real or perceived lack of after sales support.
About chance to own a Motorola phone, I think that is less of a consideration as these days, everything is available on ebay India.
Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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Yeah they have stopped =( hate to see it stop it was such a great rom!!!
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Has the Axiom ROM's development been stopped? I see the thread is now closed.
And I can't seem to find the download link to the Axiom version 2.8 version anywhere...
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Yea, development has stopped. In twitter it was announced.
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oh man...and I just got my One S two days ago!
saprydion said:
oh man...and I just got my One S two days ago!
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Check out ViperOneS.
Great ROM.
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Check out ViperOneS.
Great ROM.
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Running Viper Rom now. Quite good.
But with Axiom gone, it seems like Viper Rom is the only game in town....for me at least, because I like de-Sensed ROMs
Thanks!
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Yea, development has stopped. In twitter it was announced.
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Ok, why?
This was the last working T-Mobile ROM, it seems. Viper doesn't have WiFi calling, I am not sure if anything does. Why the heck did they close the thread and take down all download links?
Too many people complaining, there were also some bugs but I think over time axiom could have evolved into something better, its not the end though, energy ROM is still going and that is just as good
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Too many people complaining, there were also some bugs but I think over time axiom could have evolved into something better, its not the end though, energy ROM is still going and that is just as good
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I'm not going to comment further on this other than to say this guy is incorrect and certainly is in no position to speak for the team.
Energy rom is very nice, if you guys need wifi calling.
And nothing huge was wrong with the last version of axiom, the sense version anyways.
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Aww. That sucks. I love de-sensed ROMs that keep the Sense camera. Can we at least have a download link for the latest Sense-less ROM? Or someone can PM it to me, thats ok
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Well, you are in a position to speak for the team. Do you think leaving one's users hanging without any warning or explanation is something a developer should ever do? I know from own experience that ROM development is hard work, and you were doing it for free. However, your ROM had a following, people were mostly very happy, you promised some future. Than out of the blue - boom! No more Axiom S! Gone! No explanation, no warning, no clarification - nothing! Closed the thread, turned off the lights, went home.
I see Mike is already hacking SGIII. That's cool, but you don't just stick a finger at your users, and go find another set of users. At the very least you owe them an explanation where you are going and why.
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Well, you are in a position to speak for the team. Do you think leaving one's users hanging without any warning or explanation is something a developer should ever do? I know from own experience that ROM development is hard work, and you were doing it for free. However, your ROM had a following, people were mostly very happy, you promised some future. Than out of the blue - boom! No more Axiom S! Gone! No explanation, no warning, no clarification - nothing! Closed the thread, turned off the lights, went home.
I see Mike is already hacking SGIII. That's cool, but you don't just stick a finger at your users, and go find another set of users. At the very least you owe them an explanation where you are going and why.
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Last time I checked we didn't charge for our work and so we owe you nothing.
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Not speaking for anyone...but the Axiom team did post on Twitter that they were ceasing development due to hate mail...probably what he meant when he referred to complaining.
"Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it"-Axiom website/Twitter
I Am? I didn't know I was hacking the SGS3. Lol
Here's the thing...Axiom ROMs was never.....ever in my plans. Honestly how it started was Zylith and Zydroid. Zylith got busy so I picked up the slack and did more. Keep in mind I was doing this because this is what I wanted in a ROM and just happened to share it with the community, because it was Zylith's to begin with.
Personally, I got tired of the lack of support for HTC phones as of late. I originally was going to get a SGS3 over the One S, but decided not to wait for its release. Now I'm where I wanted to be originally. I'm sorry if you feel like I turned my back....AXSuite was open-sourced.....all that was needed now was a stock 1.84 base and those tweaks to be dropped right in...and BOOM, Axiom ROM again.
Things are rather busy in my life right now.....How? Well....I'm married for one.....got a kid on the way for two, getting into real estate for three, and Apple just did a product release which me, being a Tech Support Advisor for them....have to work much more hours.....which is already cutting away the time i had before.
Don't lash out at the rest of the team because of the unhappiness or disappointment you've experienced with production of a ROM ceased. Everyone has a brain and can learn this stuff people! You depend so much on people like us to do the work, why not learn it instead of getting pissed off because we choose personal lives over Android?
Last I checked....no one pays my bills, no even paid to use Axiom ROMs.....so we're not obligated to discussing anything really.
Don't mean to sound like a asshole, but I'm the only one who gives a damn about my personal life, no one else in here does. I gotta llok out for my best interest....so it is what it is. As for me doing work on the SGS3....not gonna happen. I won't be doing any ROMs for it, I'm much to busy to maintain a public release!
Stop with the PMs, stop with the frustration. AXSuite is open-sourced and for public use. Learn how to make a ROM and get it running. The whole reason we open-sourced it in the first place was to inspire others that want to learn how to do it, to actually do it!
Hate me or love me guys, I had to say what I needed to say. Not trying to be no douche or inconsiderate....I felt you guys deserved at least a reason as to why things happened the way they have....Nothing personal against anyone....but I gotta look out for me and my family and thats time that I can't spend on Android for now....
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tgtoys said:
Not speaking for anyone...but the Axiom team did post on Twitter that they were ceasing development due to hate mail...probably what he meant when he referred to complaining.
"Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it"-Axiom website/Twitter
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Thanks for clarifying that....
Some of the team members lost interest because of how things started to turn out... People calling us kangs of Venom tweaks etc etc....you know the ordeal. We decided it's not fun anymore, not worth it either. We did it for free....asked for nothing in return. Seeing you all happy was enough for us. But the hate mail along with what's stated above....just killed the motivation....
Don't hate us for it, look at the users of other One S ROMs....not saying names....they're the ones who discouraged us. Imagine catching BS from people you don't know for you contributing something you expect nothing in return from....we're all human...
itsmikeramsay said:
I Am? I didn't know I was hacking the SGS3. Lol
Here's the thing...Axiom ROMs was never.....ever in my plans. Honestly how it started was Zylith and Zydroid. Zylith got busy so I picked up the slack and did more. Keep in mind I was doing this because this is what I wanted in a ROM and just happened to share it with the community, because it was Zylith's to begin with.
Personally, I got tired of the lack of support for HTC phones as of late. I originally was going to get a SGS3 over the One S, but decided not to wait for its release. Now I'm where I wanted to be originally. I'm sorry if you feel like I turned my back....AXSuite was open-sourced.....all that was needed now was a stock 1.84 base and those tweaks to be dropped right in...and BOOM, Axiom ROM again.
Things are rather busy in my life right now.....How? Well....I'm married for one.....got a kid on the way for two, getting into real estate for three, and Apple just did a product release which me, being a Tech Support Advisor for them....have to work much more hours.....which is already cutting away the time i had before.
Don't lash out at the rest of the team because of the unhappiness or disappointment you've experienced with production of a ROM ceased. Everyone has a brain and can learn this stuff people! You depend so much on people like us to do the work, why not learn it instead of getting pissed off because we choose personal lives over Android?
Last I checked....no one pays my bills, no even paid to use Axiom ROMs.....so we're not obligated to discussing anything really.
Don't mean to sound like a asshole, but I'm the only one who gives a damn about my personal life, no one else in here does. I gotta llok out for my best interest....so it is what it is. As for me doing work on the SGS3....not gonna happen. I won't be doing any ROMs for it, I'm much to busy to maintain a public release!
Stop with the PMs, stop with the frustration. AXSuite is open-sourced and for public use. Learn how to make a ROM and get it running. The whole reason we open-sourced it in the first place was to inspire others that want to learn how to do it, to actually do it!
Hate me or love me guys, I had to say what I needed to say. Not trying to be no douche or inconsiderate....I felt you guys deserved at least a reason as to why things happened the way they have....Nothing personal against anyone....but I gotta look out for me and my family and thats time that I can't spend on Android for now....
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By all means man, family comes first. Thank you (and your team) for the hard work that you put into the rom. It is very much appreciated. I myself would love to get to a level where I could develop, rather for myself or public, but between work, kids, and life, it would never happen, thank you for using the little free time you have to help us. The fact that you put as much time and dedication into the work you did is truly a source of charity for everyone who used your roms, or any of the information you provided. I'm sorry that you had to deal with hate mail and complainers. Too many people out there feel they are 'owed' something, and don't get the fact that what you do is out of kindness and hobby, and not something that you are obligated to do.
Take care, congrats on the upcoming baby, and good luck.
...oh, and sorry about all the hate mail you're going to get at work for the lack luster iPhone 5
tgtoys said:
Not speaking for anyone...but the Axiom team did post on Twitter that they were ceasing development due to hate mail...probably what he meant when he referred to complaining.
"Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it"-Axiom website/Twitter
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Here are the key parts being over looked, highlighted in bold: Development of Axiom ROMs has ceased. After much thought, tons of hate mail & other nonsense, we've come to the conclusion it's not worth it". By the way I don't need anyone to remind me what I WROTE on Twitter. And one last thing the hate mail wasn't from our users!
tgtoys said:
By all means man, family comes first. Thank you (and your team) for the hard work that you put into the rom. It is very much appreciated. I myself would love to get to a level where I could develop, rather for myself or public, but between work, kids, and life, it would never happen, thank you for using the little free time you have to help us. The fact that you put as much time and dedication into the work you did is truly a source of charity for everyone who used your roms, or any of the information you provided. I'm sorry that you had to deal with hate mail and complainers. Too many people out there feel they are 'owed' something, and don't get the fact that what you do is out of kindness and hobby, and not something that you are obligated to do.
Take care, congrats on the upcoming baby, and good luck.
...oh, and sorry about all the hate mail you're going to get at work for the lack luster iPhone 5
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I can't even begin to think how disappointed some iPhone users are.....nothing drastic has changed....innovation is dead! PLUS Samsung and HTC are gonna sue for LTE patent infringements lol....i may need to look for another job lol j/k
itsmikeramsay said:
I can't even begin to think how disappointed some iPhone users are.....nothing drastic has changed....innovation is dead! PLUS Samsung and HTC are gonna sue for LTE patent infringements lol....i may need to look for another job lol j/k
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Haha...wish Google had a patent on Chrome-to-Phone/Chrome sync...iCloud Tabs..really? Who came up with that one