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[Q] Windows Phone 8

I read and read and can't find answers...
1. If I buy phone with WP7 and after 1-2 years Microsoft shows us WP7 R2 or WP8, will MS plan to give me an option to BUY upgrade to new version?
Is this technical posiible?
2. Will WP7 have running Windows [Phone] Update to automaticaly install updates?

Yes, WP7 will receive updates and they will come OTA and/or through the Zune client directly from Microsoft, not through carriers/OEMs liek WM and Android. But how far out and what versions??????
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Forget about question 2. There is an answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7460756
But what about question 1?
Do MS plan to sell upgrade to WP8?

gbbsoft said:
Forget about question 2. There is an answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7460756
But what about question 1?
Do MS plan to sell upgrade to WP8?
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Noone knows, not even Microsoft. But going off of past history, if they don't change the specs/requirements, it will get a free upgrade. But I would guess that "Windows Phone 8" will be significant revision over the 7 branch and therefore have new minimum hardware specs and therefore not work on existing devices.

I think by the time wp8 comes out we'll be integrating circuitry into our bodies. I for one welcome our new cybernetic overlord selves. Also Android fanboys will be actual Androids.

gbbsoft said:
I read and read and can't find answers...
1. If I buy phone with WP7 and after 1-2 years Microsoft shows us WP7 R2 or WP8, will MS plan to give me an option to BUY upgrade to new version?
Is this technical possible?
2. Will WP7 have running Windows [Phone] Update to automatically install updates?
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Have you ever seen updates directly from MS in a Windows mobile operating system in any other device in the market??
The SO updates, if any, are released only by the device maker (HTC, for instance) and made available for their customers and are never payed.
You have to realize that you're not talking about a PC Operating system like Windows 7 or any other PC operating system by Microsoft, but mobile device operating system that HAVE to meet all the hardware definitions specific for the device you own at that moment so that it can keep being stable and functional.
Just imagine if MS decided to release an update and all HTC diamond2 suddenly stop to recieve any calls just because it might have some specific hardware that was incompatible with the code created by MS
Not a good sight, right?
Of course HTC would have to test all the software before it can be released and decided if that could be released or not.

rogeriopcf said:
Have you ever seen updates directly from MS in a Windows mobile operating system in any other device in the market??
The SO updates, if any, are released only by the device maker (HTC, for instance) and made available for their customers and are never payed.
You have to realize that you're not talking about a PC Operating system like Windows 7 or any other PC operating system by Microsoft, but mobile device operating system that HAVE to meet all the hardware definitions specific for the device you own at that moment so that it can keep being stable and functional.
Just imagine if MS decided to release an update and all HTC diamond2 suddenly stop to recieve any calls just because it might have some specific hardware that was incompatible with the code created by MS
Not a good sight, right?
Of course HTC would have to test all the software before it can be released and decided if that could be released or not.
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This was true of Windows Mobile but with Windows Phone 7 Microsoft will be providing updates directly to users bypassing the likes of HTC and the carriers. So as far as updates are concerned WP7 devices have a degree of upgradability previously unavailable to Windows Phone users, how far that goes thoough will depend on whether new hardware is required for the new software to perform fully.

Honestly I don't see the problem with buying a new phone in the 3 years (minimum) that it's going to take Microsoft to bring forth a WP8. If you ppl think WP7 has changed the sluggishness of how Microsoft works you are crucially wrong. So don't waste ur time arguing whether an update will be possible, because it will, BUT you won't want it by the time it's available.
On the other hand, maybe 2012 might've finished us off by the time the final product is ready for launch and we won't have to worry about it (jk...).

They say that they need 3-5 years to make WP7 "completely done". There will be minor and major updates before that, adding features, changing how things work and look etc. But none of them will dramatically change the OS itself. So I'd say you're safe for this time frame.
What will happen next nobody knows.

A much bigger issue than feature updates, is the ability to do fast small updates, mainly targeting stability or security.
Phones are rapidly becoming the new and most attractive market for criminals that wish to steal information and/or commit crime via. social engineering. And because of this, phones need small over-the-air security updates, preferable as often as we see them to the PC.
And I think WP7 got the platform in place from doing this from day one. Something you can't say about the other platforms.

Something you can't say about the other platforms.
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I know you usually have no clue what you're talking about, but let me correct you once again.
Android can get OTA security updates immediately (!) pushed to all phones.
iOS users must connect to iTunes but they get them as well.

Fermat said:
Android can get OTA security updates immediately (!) pushed to all phones.
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No, Only 1.6 or higher. Android v. 1.5 (Cupcake) devices still account for around 4 million devices.
And I was talking the state of the different mobile operative-systems at their launch points. Learn you read, your clueless retard.

When WP7 launches all the others are at least two years away from their "launch points".
Nobody cares about "launch points".
You're pathetic.

Just get back to whatever Android scrub forum you came from already. Useless troll.

Someone has to correct all the nonsense that you're posting.

Fermat said:
Someone has to correct all the nonsense that you're posting.
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You mean someone have to correct all the FUD and crap you're talking out of your arse.
And it gets worse when you try correct people without having the ability to read what they're writing.
Just go die in a fire already.

Not my fault that you're so clueless.

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Not my fault that you're so clueless.
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Not our fault you're a hopeless retarded troll that can't read.

I'm pretty sure that by the time WP8 comes out they will put a new spec requirement and no current phones will beable to just upgrade to WP8. Unless they pull an apple. And allow the updates without all the features or something.

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No, Only 1.6 or higher. Android v. 1.5 (Cupcake) devices still account for around 4 million devices.
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Erm.... ALL android devices have been upgradable to 1.6. I don't think anything still has 1.5. Even the G1 got an official 1.6 update.

[APP] AppShare v1.0.4 - Share Apps, Not Links!

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Hey guys,
I have decided to post an application I have been working on. This app lets you share apps with anybody. I originally put this on the Android Market but they didn't like how easy it was to send anybody apps without any rules. From the original description:
Send apps, not links!
Using AppShare, you can send any app to anybody anytime! AppShare doesn't just send links like similar offerings, but sends real APK (Application) files to any other device in the world using a unique Access ID (assigned to you upon installation). It works similar to phone numbers - you select which application you want to send, type in your friend's Access ID and then press send. It's fast, easy and intuitive! Use AppShare for developing apps or sending your favorite apps to your friends.
Optionally install apps without user interaction.
AppShare uses PUSH technology so that it DOES NOT drain your battery! Please keep in mind that apps can take awhile to send/receive, even on 3G. Apps sent may take anywhere from a few seconds to a few hours to receive depending on many different factors.
Decentralized servers are used, NO PERSONAL INFORMATION IS STORED. If you have questions about any of the permissions required to install, please contact the developer and he will be happy to explain any questions you have.
Please contact the developer if you have any issues or questions about using AppShare and before leaving negative reviews!
Have fun sharing (REAL) apps!
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4/18/2011 - Initial version release
If you have any questions, please PM me. Thanks!

This is quite interesting and would be very helpful tocpeople developing apps to send them to testers.
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I can't WAIT to try this. I am not a developer but I've always invisioned an app like this. Gonna test it out right now on my wifes G2!

I tested the app and except for a few force closes it works as advertised. On occassion I had to resend an app several times for it to upload to my wifes non-rooted G2 but in the end she received it. This is an awesome app. Great jod "damageless"!! MyTouch 4G running CM7 2.3.4

Excellent application idea. Have you considered adding protection to prevent the distribution of paid or secured applications?

How would this work with copy protected apps, which is a lot of them?
Is the idea to only get this to work with free apps that are not protected at all?

If a developer is concerned about distribution of paid apps, even basic DRM will stop sharing via the app in the OP.
While this is a nice idea, it puts phones and user data at risk. Sharing apps from non-developer authorized distribution points leads to the spread of malware, and piracy.
Scenario that makes this app a bad idea.
Friend a Grabs AWESOME FIGHTING ROBOT game off rapid share, unknown to him this game gains root access (via embed exploit), steals data and makes the phone part of a botnet.
Friend b sees friend a playing the game, it looks awesome!. Friend a) uses this app to share the game to friend b (being from a non authorized source in the first place), friend b runs game and becomes part of the botnet.

Good point. Luckily, however, you can apparently disable automatic hands-off installation.
jcase said:
If a developer is concerned about distribution of paid apps, even basic DRM will stop sharing via the app in the OP.
While this is a nice idea, it puts phones and user data at risk. Sharing apps from non-developer authorized distribution points leads to the spread of malware, and piracy.
Scenario that makes this app a bad idea.
Friend a Grabs AWESOME FIGHTING ROBOT game off rapid share, unknown to him this game gains root access (via embed exploit), steals data and makes the phone part of a botnet.
Friend b sees friend a playing the game, it looks awesome!. Friend a) uses this app to share the game to friend b (being from a non authorized source in the first place), friend b runs game and becomes part of the botnet.
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is this the according market page: market.android.com/details?id=com.goldtouch.appshare&feature=search_result (cant post links..)
I am wondering about the strange logo

That isn't the market page. It was forced off the market because Google essentially didn't like how people could send apps to anybody so easily. They told me that because not everybody has implemented DRM that I couldn't put it in there. Anyways, rather than put it to waste I decided to post it here. If you let me know of any force closes (tell me how it happened) then I would be happy to fix them and post an update. Please share it with your friends so that I have a reason to keep it alive. Yes, this app could potentially be used for bad things, but it wasn't intended for that purpose. I actually built it so that I could send apps to the lady that does my graphic design so that she could see how things look and send me updated graphics. I have a way around sending copy protected apps, but I currently have the feature disabled (because I thought Google would let me post it if I disabled it, but no luck). Anyways, let me know if you have any feature requests, problems, or anything at all. Thanks!

pls, can you explain the option "use service - instead of activity" ?
And why need the app reading contact data?

Sure. There is a feature that allows you to save access ID numbers to your contact list so you don't have to remember them. It is on the second screen. That is all that it is used for.
The using service preference lets you upload using a service instead of an activity. So it will say "app sent" and upload to the person in the background instead of making you wait.
No personal information is stored at all. Please let me know if you have other questions. Thanks!

Hi, love the idea of this app but can not install on my wifes x10i keep getting a parsing error yet it installed fine on my galaxy s I am guessing its because my wife is running eclair and i'm on froyo is froyo the minimum requirement for this app? thanks

Eclair is the minimum requirement. The reason you would be getting a parsing error is if the apk is corrupted. You will need to recopy the apk over.

This app clearly has no purpose apart from distribution of warez!
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Yeah that's a negative ghost rider, by itself the app has nothing to do with warez. Go troll somewhere else.
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Thanks for the reply damageless and I disagree that this app has no purpose for example my wife does not install stuff on her phone thats my job I was able to send her a train timetable app while she was away from home at the train station so very handy for that situation
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Not true that this was ever built or meant for warez. I actually built this app so that I could send apps I'm working on to my graphic designer easily.

nice idea / work!!

fullagon said:
Thanks for the reply damageless and I disagree that this app has no purpose for example my wife does not install stuff on her phone thats my job I was able to send her a train timetable app while she was away from home at the train station so very handy for that situation
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+ 1 my wife likes all the cool beta apps I find here on xDA but lacks the patience of me trying to find the app from her phone and install. Dropbox sometimes wont transfer. This app cuts down time and aggrivation drastically. Good looking out damageless!
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Google pays $12.5 billion for Motorola Mobility

Good news?
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/google-pays-12-5-billion-for-mororola-mobility-20110815/

hellmonger said:
Good news?
http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/google-pays-12-5-billion-for-mororola-mobility-20110815/
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I think it will be good for new motorola's devices but I think they wouldn't do anythink for our phone because of make an update cost money and they can't win by doing this because this phone is no more for sale.

I can't decide if this matters. On the one hand, we're now two corporate restructurings removed from a company that gave a **** about the XT720 (Motorola [small **** given] > Motorola Mobility [no ****s given] > Google [patent warfare]). On the other hand Google has legendary awful customer support. It seems like a heads Sanjay wins, tails I lose situation.

i'll say it's extremely good news
this should help improve Motorola's phone to have unlocked bootloader and stock AOS, without all the bloatware they always put on it

I don't suppose we'll receive an update for an unlocked bootloader, no? Probably not because it seems Motorola will continue to operate separately from Google

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I don't suppose we'll receive an update for an unlocked bootloader, no? Probably not because it seems Motorola will continue to operate separately from Google
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I've never seen any indication that Google disapproves of the bootloader lock. They do disapprove of the lack of updates, but I'm sure we missed the boat on that.

Mioze7Ae said:
I've never seen any indication that Google disapproves of the bootloader lock. They do disapprove of the lack of updates, but I'm sure we missed the boat on that.
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Yes, couldn't have said it better myself. Most phones have support that barely lasts 2 years. I think this is the end of the XT720. On the brighter side, this will help google fight of apple and microsoft which were just trying to dominate the market with the patents. I see this as a good move for android/opensource as a whole!

With the capability to manufacture its own hardware, Google will be better equipped to take on the iPhone. That should be good.

Google World Domination Coming soon to a world near you.
Will be taken over within:
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3 years 124 days
Google needs Motorola to take over your living room
Google Evil Agenda
My original prediction:
Posted by Urgo at December 16, 2004 11:31 PM
"Don't Be Evil?" video - beta version
Google Xistence
For the past year now I've been predicting that within the next ten Google will 'take over the world'. Most people I tell this two think I'm crazy and this will never happen saying that Google is the best company ever and they will never turn evil. I tend to disagree.
Let me take just a few minutes to explain why I think this, and then at the bottom of this entry is a link to a flash video I found today with someone else thinking the same thing.
Facts - Google owns:
- Google is the most used search engine
- Gmail, while maybe not the most used email provider (maybe it is now?) it is definitely the most highly desired
- Orkut, while mostly blown over now is still a thriving social network site
- Google News is viewed as a #1 news site for many people
- Blogger is one of the leading blog sites and blogs are all over the news these days
- Keyhole offers a satalite imageing service
- Google Desktop Search
- Google Adsense - probably the most widly used advertising on the web these days (used even on this website although I haven't seen any return yet)
- And much much more, plus all the things normal people like myself have come up with such as the random google image in the right sidebar.
My point to all of this is the following:
Through GMail Google stores and never deletes your email. They catalog it and can do a LOT with that data. With time google can write robots to parse the data to find out every bit of data about you, who you know, what you talk about, etc. Gmail bundled with Orkut Google really has a solid grip on your social network with more detail and structure than email alone. Google knows who [email protected] really is, where he lives, what his passtimes are, etc and can link it up with your email conversations. Now to get even further into your life they have the Google Desktop Search which has already been called on being invasive bypassing security on people's PC's and cataloging files that it shouldn't.
Step back for a second, Google now knows who you know, what you talk about, details about every person, everything you say on your computer, what files you have, what is in each file, basically all of your Digital Data. Oh, also if you use the google search bar (IE plug-in) in advanced mode (default.. plus ohh! I want advanced features....) they track every webpage you go, although the desktop search tool does that as well. 0wned.
Next we start to see Google's current revenue. Blogs, Keyhole, Adsense. Wow, if the inflated stock doesn't make them enough $$$ then this sure helps. Although I don't believe Google charges for blogger right now they are setting themselves up for it in the future if blogging ever takes off as a legitimate news source... News.. Google news is one of the most used news services to gather news from many sources, sorted automatically for relevance...
Now, just think if Google DID want to turn evil (assuming they aren't already) how much of the market they already own. In the 90's people switched search engines all the time, but moving email providers, etc is a lot harder to do. In a few more years they'll have people so dependant on them and their products just like Microsoft people will be stuck with Google for better or.. worse.
More info on Google being evil is at google-watch.
Wow, well this was supposed to be a very short blog entry promoting a clip I saw today but I had to get my rant over with. Other then the Google-watch site that’s been around for a while, today on mefi I stumbled into a 10? min flash movie someone made giving a detailed rundown of a possible scenario that Google might take in the coming years towards world domination. I personally haven't come up with a scenario myself, and I am uncertain if this one is how its going to happen, but I was happy to see that others feel the same way as I do, that within the next ten years Google will takeover the world, or in this movie, the media forcing the New York Times offline.
Please take the time to watch this movie, and ignore the somewhat cheesiness of it. I really think they are being insightful and this COULD happen.
Flash Movie Of How Google Will Take Over The World
Google Plans To Kill Web In Internet Takeover Agenda
Google's Motorola Takeover Bid To Draw Antitrust Scrutiny, Analysts Say

I forgot that Motorola Mobility makes cable-top boxes. That's a plus for GoogleTV which I think is also Android based? Or is that Chrome based? I forget.

Today's android news keeps getting more and more interesting. First google and moto and now Cyanogen and Samsung.
"Steve Kondik, better known as Cyanogen, the father of CyanogenMod, has posted an interesting update to his professional life on his Facebook page. Steve, who has founded the largest family of custom Android ROMs on the planet, has just joined Samsung Mobile to presumably work on Android-related goodies for one of world's largest electronics manufacturers." -Android Police
(Can't post links yet, check Android Police)
Two developments which hopefully do nothing but improve the quality of the Android OS.

Good..Now Google control both software and hardware can make better opened source devices...stupid moto is dying , may google takes over and unlock all the moto build mobile deveice bootloaders

I was thrilled when reading about it. One of the main problems is that Moto seems to fail to optimize their hardware with the software. Meaning that, despite having powerful specs in several of their phones, it stills ends up being laggy and buggy. How is it that the Nexus S with its single core can outlag the Atrix? or even the Nexus One? resolution, graphics and processor needs to be better developed for usage.
Other than the bloatware, I find the Motorola developers really fail to take advantage of the specs and integrating it with Android.
Hopefully, the Moto and Google developers can get together and finally fix this problem. Specs mean nothing if the phone can't use it efficiently.
I'm pretty sure everyone will celebrate if Moto announces that they are switching to google stock, and turning motoblur into only widget apps, instead of a launcher apk. It still boggles my mind how companies can continue to push such applications, and this applies to Sony Ericcsons terrible Timescape app. it was already a trainwreck on the X10.

[Q] how can we disable carrier iq and other related tracking software?

Hey just wondering how to get this crap of my phone. Don't want to be tracked in anyway.
WWW.carrieriq.com
Thanks in advance

How do you know its definitely installed? ..
Also I'm guessing your device is currently unrooted, which means chances are you won't be able to remove it. Unless you choose to root your phone.

Apart from that, the fact you have a mobile at all means you can be tracked ,just from the cell you are using to make or receive calls or txts

Excuse me sir, I seem to have misplaced my hat.
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I'm not paranoid ,just stating a fact .. Don't give a flying one who knows where i am lol

Lol sorry mate, that was actually directed at OP, not at you. I've never been overly worried as to location collection via my mobile phone(s), purely because pin pointing your exact location using the tower can be rather difficult.
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I'm not paranoid ,just stating a fact .. Don't give a flying one who knows where i am lol
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This information is used by our customers as a mission critical tool to improve the profitability of the network by invasion of privacy, understand device issues like imbedded spyware and ultimately improve the collection of user’s info. Our software is embedded by device manufacturers along with other diagnostic tools and software normally called viruses prior to shipment.
While we look at many aspects of a device’s performance, we are counting and summarizing performance, not recording keystrokes or providing tracking tools yet.
All this and more and we haven’t been sued yet, or any of our customers, for online stalking and the illegal distribution of information because the user signs away its rights when it buys that much needed mobile device.
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I don't to be tracked no matter what. Thought you people would have understood that, guess I was wrong.

Short of not owning a mobile, flashing a custom rom will get rid of the HTC apps and widgets on the stock rom that has far, far too many permissions. Same with carrier apps, since they too mine data from the device in question. The peep, facebook, HTC power control and HTC calendar apps in particular required a disturbing amount of permissions to run. Part of the reason why I rooted and flashed to CM 7.1, actually. It has phone goggles and permission controlling built it actually, so it can be a safe, user controlled, relatively tracking free experience.
Hope this helps.
Oh to add, just rooting the phone will allow you to uninstall ANY app on the phone. But I think this can have a detrimental effect at times, since some of the apps tie in with the stock sense rom, which could have the consequence of having a unstable, buggy, crash prone device of your own making. Could be wrong though.

cheers mate, phone has been rooted for some time now but I thought you guys might be more specific about which files need to be deleted as to avoid detection.
I use startpage instead of google but I don't think that makes much difference.
I know it's definitely being done with i-phones and google is doing it with android devices
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/mac...-you-care/1109
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...s-company.html
http://radar.oreilly.com/2011/04/app...-tracking.html
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/...hone-tracking/
http://gizmodo.com/5793925/your-ipho...ere-youve-been

http ://news.yahoo. com/ smartphone-spying-204933867. html
well its true now as to how to remove this goofy thing is dif story.
im pretty sure nobody in this forum thinks this is acceptable!
had to put in spaces due to im a NOOB!

I've read (Engadget or Lifehacker - I forgot) that this is only on stock ROMs.

according to one article
it looks like Android phones from Sprint have a keylogger and deep-packet inspector factory-installed, and you can't remove it without exchanging a chip.
Carrier IQ Video Shows Alarming Capabilities Of Mobile Tracking Software
You may be aware of the growing controversy surrounding Carrier IQ, a piece of software found pre-installed on Sprint phones that, according to developers who have investigated, is capable of detecting, recording, and transmitting various user actions and inputs. Among the data CIQ potentially has access to are location, SMS, apps, and key presses.
News of the software has been percolating for months on development forums, but when Trevor Eckhart recently summarized his findings, he found himself facing a cease and desist while Sprint vigorously denied the charges, saying “We do not and cannot look at the contents of messages, photos, videos, etc., using this tool.”
The C&D was quickly retracted, but Eckhart has now released a video that seems to give the lie to both Sprint and Carrier IQ’s assurances.
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more here http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/29/ca...ing-capabilities-of-mobile-tracking-software/
from about 5 mins in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T17XQI_AYNo&feature=player_embedded#

already an xda article on it
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-rootkit-of-all-evil-ciq/
Note also that if you're running an Android Open Source Project (AOSP) based ROM—like CyanogenMod—you do not have Carrier IQ installed on your system. These apps are based on the original, open source version of Android, and don't include any carrier or manufacturer additions like Carrier IQ. If you're using a modded version of your manufacturer's ROM, however—for example, a modded HTC Sense or Samsung TouchWiz ROM—you could still have it installed. To avoid this, either flash AOSP based ROMs, or flash ROMs with Carrier IQ specifically removed (many will say NOCIQ or something similar on their description pages).
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makes sense.

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The application accessibility will close on the phone, however the data will still be left behind as residual storage in the same way every computer in the work can leave behind traceable history even if you physically delete everything from the hard-drive. It only takes a external programmer from a wifi connection to gain access onto the phone (even when its turned off) and they are able to uplink all that information stored on the phones memory aswell as call/storeage/user memory.
Its protected by internal security devices from external attacks, however it doesn't stop the phone companies from getting into your data anytime, anywhere, without your permission. At least with computers you can be protected from such external hacking by setting up a proxy or multiple firewalls (however even this isn't a guarantee.)
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Check out my posting!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20281786#post20281786

there is also an app called logging test app which will do the same it's by treve here at xda check it out as well.

The Desire S shouldn't have carrier IQ, at it's mostly US phones which have it. The UK phones do not.

The future of phones is coming

The future of cellphones and cellphone plans along-side android to give you infinite possibility! And it is going to be epic!
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Here we have what Google owned Motorola has created with Project Ara. A concept to bring the flexibility and open source that Google's android brought to software to the hardware side. A modular phone that you can customize. Why buy a new phone when you can just upgrade the one you have?
Build it to your liking, take it apart and build it better! And there even bring the ability use your 3D printer to customize it (I know you all have a 3D printer by now.... Right?)
Then we have the Build your own phone plan by Zact.
Currently on the sprint network, (I hope they expend or someone picks up on this and moves to something with a bit more... SERVICE.) You can pick how many minutes, text messages, and Mb of data you have or don't have, each month. If your realize that you need more minutes, text, or Mb, you just click a button and add them. If you have extra they roll over. How can it get any better? Oh, you have kids? You can set times, and limits on EVERYTHING! or don't. Your choice, and that's what makes it AMAZING.
All this mixed in with Android, makes it the perfect phone to build and create anything you can imagine in a phone. Unfortunately, I don't see Zact adding this phone to its list of phones for sale anytime soon, and currently Zact has "custom software" that means you can only buy there phones for there plans, and you can't install custom roms or anything that might cause the software to stop working because it would leave you left with a brick, and they do not have insurance. But... where there is android, there are devs and devs can do anything with time and support.
So, the future of cell phones is looking promising. If there are enough people interested in this stuff, support the developers. Comment on the xda forums and let them know that you want them to support Zact phones. Lets get the ball rolling on this.
I am starting my Zact plan for Christmas, and I will be flashing my prl's to roam because as of now, Zact roaming is free and roaming services at my house is better then sprint service.
The future looks promising! Let me know what you guys think!

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nice phone...

Don't forget to help support project Ara on their dScout page!:good:

I got my phones a few days ago, it only took 2 weeks... I started it up, ran through the setup, wasnt thinking but aloud the OTA to run. I ran cf auto root, noticed I still didnt have su so I installed superuser from the appstore and checked root with root checker. Nothing. Then I remembered that I installed the OTA to 4.3 but forgot about Knox because I had not had to deal with it prior. I did just about everything I could think of. I also found that trying to retrieve your msl/spc is a lot harder. I am unable to get into the qualcomm usb menu because it asked for the msl, Most hidden menus are asking for msl. I attempted to install twrp but it says there is no recover found for my device. I cant connect it to dfs or cdma workshop. adb sees it, but I dont know much about adb so I want able to do much with it. I was however able to copy the ZACT mobile apk from the phone and install it to another phone. It is unstable and FC alot. My other phone sees it as a launcer like touchwiz or nova. Thought this would be a good idea to see what the apk itself controls on another phone. I am not a developer. I am computer savy and have been playing with flashing for a long time. If anyone is interested in teaching me a little, I would like make a backup of the rom. Is there a way to pull the full rom with pre-installed apks, I can factory rest back to start and just see whats available. I'd like to attempt to flash it to my old s3 make a clone kinda. So i can test an play with one without damaging my daily phone. Any thoughts or ideas on what to test let me know.

Nice

Just to set the record straight...in no way did Motorola create this idea. This was a concept created by Dave Hakkens. His concept was called Phonebloks. Motorola did some sort of deal to license the concept or something. Just don't go around saying someone created something when they didn't...its like saying Apple made the smartphone.
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Good to know thank you for setting me straight me v
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Strange....

Update
Please go to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48609960#post48609960 for updates on My current status of root and flashing my zact s3 phones.

Wow
Cant wait to put my hands on one of these

It's like watching a movie, with Da Vinci and Einstein working together, with Tesla support, and Edison make the stuff :v
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:good: lol

Nice....

Yeah I hEard Obout This ! Pretty Cool